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First single released last week from a concept collaboration album titled ‘Nightmare In Rome’, out early 2026.
Feels like it’s another 12 Reasons To Die type thing. Someone else’s idea, Ghost cashes another check
https://youtu.be/lL8mo24uqOk
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Originally Posted by Teejay
Some background translated from Italian with Google:
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Lorenzo Senni talks about Nightmare in RomeClaudia Maddaluno
7 October 2025
We asked Lorenzo Senni to tell us about the meeting with CAM Sugar and their new project Nightmare in Rome, a comic with a soundtrack played by a band of the same name in which the producer revisits some soundtracks from the CAM catalogue in an electronic key.
The first chapter in 45 rpm will be released on November 7th and inside you will also find the voice of Ghostface Killah on a sample by Riz Ortolani.
It would seem like a dystopian future when Riz Ortolani and Ghostface Killah meet and instead it happens here and now, thanks to another fantastic meeting: that of Lorenzo Senni with CAM Sugar.
Tell us how this futuristic experience came about.
Let's say that Riz Ortolani and Ghostface Killah met in a Nightmare, the project Nightmare in Rome. While CAM Sugar and I met in Milan, in a context that would still seem very far from that described in the comic and addressed by our American guest but which instead already gives some worrying signals in that direction.
I think the most magical encounters are the most unexpected ones and as far as I'm concerned this is the case. I hope it will become so for listeners too.
This project got your hands on the immense CAM soundtrack catalogue. What was your approach?
I have never referred to a genre. The music from the CAM catalog that intrigued me the most and the one that showed me the most potential is the one from which I drew the material for Nightmare in Rome. Very instinctively I went through hundreds of tracks and slowly built a library.
I'm not a classic producer and I can barely produce the music I publish in my personal project like Lorenzo Senni.
The ’ approach here was almost solely dictated by enthusiasm for the sound material available to me.
Let's go back to Ancient Dirt (Etruscan Kills Again), track featuring the collaboration of Ghostface Killah on a sample by Riz Ortolani. What kind of vision guided you in the production of this song?
My idea has always been to have Ghostface Killah participate in the fundamental role of narrator. And’ he who introduces us to the world of Nightmare in Rome and I have to say that it has really outdone itself. It is not a given that someone instantly becomes passionate about a project and contributes in such a substantial way. Once we described the context and the story to him he produced the lyrics and then recorded his part. He has always been passionate about the idea and one day I hope to be able to thank him in person.
Name us your 3 favorite soundtracks and the ones you would like to work on in the near (dystopian) future
Terminator by Brad Fiedel, Mandy by Johan Johannson in which our Francesco Donadello (who mixed and mastered) also participates Ancient Dirt) and Stelvio Cipriani's Libidine. To name three that figure among the influences of Nightmare in Rome. I don't want to work directly on any soundtrack, I want to reinterpret them.
You can find the 45 here:
https://camsugarmusic.com/products/n...n-rome-prelude
So it seems to be part of a bigger project where Ghost is just a guest. The concept sounds interesting though.
Hot take, or maybe not. Other people know how to use Ghost better than Ghost and his crew does. He is more effective as a hired gun, see also his Kendrick appearance.
wait…. You like this bullshit?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
Wow. I can’t tell what’s worse, you actually liking this track, and thinking “this is the best way to use Ghost”….or just that statement and your “hot take” in general?! lol No wonder you hated SC2 so much, cuz it was Ghost being Ghost. It wasn’t someone else’s vision.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
These guys are real people, not some action figures you play with in your sandbox and pull a cord from their chest and make them say what YOU want them to say. That’s some weird, entitled, slave owner mentality.
Ghost is in charge of his career. If he wants to do these weak(imo) 12RTD type concept albums for a nice check with little to zero effort, that’s his choice. But to say those outsiders know how to “use him best” is just….crazy.
Matter of fact, give me your password to your account here. I know how to post “Jet Set style” better than you know how to post it yourself. lol
I'm interested to hear and see where this project goes yeah.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForensikZ
Action figures? Slave owner mentality? You really went off here.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teejay
What I was trying to get at was that Ghost might work better if he is coached properly. Like a good sports player still needs a good coach to perform well. Don't think it is at all crazy to say in this way that Ghost performs better when he has a coach with a proper vision that he works with. Instead of Ghost just being Ghost with his team. (I also got the feeling he is not really challenged in the latter.)
Was it you or somebody else that said they were not counting 12RTD, Sour Soul & 36 Seasons as real Ghost albums? I find it a bit conflicting when people state that Ghost is his own soul controller, yet these albums are not his, even though his name is on the front. In this regard I agree with what some say in film. If you as a director do now like the product and want to disown it, put on another name. IN the film business it is Alan Smithee. But do not start disowning it afterwards, when you got your paycheck. Only if you were not sound of mind you could maybe claim that. It's a weak argument and poor showing to not embrace those or acknowledge those.
Anyway, Adrian Younge's production is top notch.
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My bad bro. I wasn’t attacking YOU personally with all the action figures shit. I was aiming that at all the people that “were in control” of all those 12RTD, Sour Soul, 36 Seasons, etc albums. Not you. Should’ve made that more clear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
And yes, that was me that said that about those albums. I thought they were extremely weak, and I think they watered down his catalog. It’s just my personal opinion on it. But again, it was Ghost’s decision, and we all know Ghost will say/do anything for a paycheck.
I never hated on the production on any of those albums. Some beats were really dope, the ones I remember anyway. I was talking strictly lyrics wise. They felt amateurish and dumbed down. Cuz someone else wrote them.
I mean im semi interested myself. But, i mean… this itself… beatwise anyway, has all the hallmarks of cheap record. I know people were dissapointed in sc2 but if this was on there id write off ghost myself lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
Hot garbage 🗑️
i actually dug this
Ghost has done well in the past with these band / story collaborations, but this single gave me a headache.
this is the type of shit i like to hear and ghostface sounds crazy on this am very interested into what this whole album is about because i dont think the peoples that are putting this out make hip hop music they just made this track but for real this is how like to hear ghost rhyme fuck the killer drug dealing thug shit this to me is ghost at his best when he rhymes like this
A'ight, a'ight, a'ight. All good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teejay
After your comment, I went back through 12RTD. Still, in my opinion, with what Ghost has always been saying about soul and older music, that production is really what he needs and can shine on. It could make for a more relaxing and grown up leg of his career. But the lyrics, you might have a point there. The lyrics are at times really on the nose and could have used another rewrite or two to make it more interesting. Also just to challenge himself. On top of that, he could have looked into how writing that wold be if you take it to a more adult approach and not stuck in a sort of scarface purgatory.
Awell, paychecks paychecks. He pretty much sold out on everything that was thrown at him. Though the original Pretty Toney action doll is still pretty cool.