Originally Posted by sweet sista
because when you think God ain't for real it's like sayin' you're not for real. You're mind ain't for real. You're feelin' ain't for real. Your humanity ain't for real. Your creativity ain't for real. Everythin' in life ain't for real. And yeah believe it. it's connected.
How we're 4 real?first you feel things and you whitey, act to these feelings. You don't let go. If it wasn't for real, you wouldn't cry the day you were born. If it wasn't for real, you wouldn't fight with anyone in your life coz they pissed you off. If it wasn't for real, you wouldn't feel hurt, you wouldn't feel embarrassed, you wouldn't feel good, you wouldn't feel bad or feel anything and you won't be able to touch anything if it ain't for real.
How is it insulting to your intelligence to think that there is no God?
you know as an intelligent human being, that everything happens for a reason. And every act has a re-act. I mean even a very simple things make you wonder who did this and who did that? Check it in your daily life. If you still live with your parents, you wake up in the early mornin' the breakfast is cooked. “oh it has to be mum” you never thought it was made by itself, did you? or It wasn't the boggy man, was he?
And even if you were the best geologic scientist you'll keep listin' to me the whole process of how somethin' happens then it has to come to a point when you stop and i ain't talkin' about the lack of knowledge about geology or somethin' but it's just too beyond what any human being can get to or it just against all what he was learned in his best college.
Why nothing is made by itself like Rocks?!
Some might say something about maybe how the wind blows up and shape mountains and then little rocks fall down and gather with bigger ones and in the rainy days they become mud or somethin' then again when the weather is dry and sunny, the little rocks become one big rock. Blah blah blah..
yeah ok i got it, but who moved the wind? Who changed the weather? Who shaped the land in a way that made the rocks gather in certain spot?
Everything is motivated by something. The feelings and the behaviors are effected and motivated by other things though they aren't touchable.
Then how the things that are touchable can't be motivated by something or someone?
to say that the rock is made or shaped by the wind. It's like sayin' it was the oven that cooked my food. It's absolutely true but you ain't goin' to disbelieve in Allah “God” just cause you know how the happenings was done.
I know the examples don't match in the level but i tried to use them coz they're easy to understand and to see.
Man,that shows who in here build his states on guesses and assumptions. The big religions and here i suppose you're talking about Islam, Christianity and Judaism. They aren't popped up at the same time. Islam was revealed in 611 A.C that means like 1427 ago and Christianity was revealed 2006 years ago.
when there was no good science or explanations to certain things?
What is the hell that suppose to mean, you ignorant?! Lemme tell ya somethin' first of all and believe it or not, those religions revealed upon people using the best that the people had at that time. I mean when Christianity came to its people by prophet Jesus -may Allah's peace upon him- the people was the best at medicine. And the miracles of Jesus were so related to what his people are good at. He could cure leper and blindness-by the will of Allah- and he could revive deads -by the will of Allah-“God”.When Islam was revealed upon Prophet Muhammad -may Allah's peace be upon him- Allah all-knowing knew that the best thing is using what the people are good at. He almighty ain't gonna tell people about cars when all they're good at is somethin' else. Koran was raveled speakin' to what the people were good at and because it's the last message from God it contains what will happen in the future and what happened in the past. The people of Muhammad were so articulate, fluent and eloquent. That means that the Koran has the greatest evidences that talk with people minds and prove logically the existence of god and how things go. So that shows that those three religions convinced people and proved to them real facts the people were the best at. It ain't like they were ignorants and they were used.
This is stupid!
Should they had last model weapons like we have today so they make people submit to their wishes by scaring them?! They had other weapons and had other ways of torturing people to make them submit.
Beside the prophets that those religions were revealed upon are had the best manners among their people. Their own people knew them for being honest and never tell lies.
Nothing wrong about fearing god when you make a mistake, that makes you a better human being. It makes you watch it out for the next time and not to repeat the same mistake. It makes you kind to people. It makes you just, humble and wise.
Awww thank youuuuuuuuuuuuuuu that's so what i was looking for in a question. Coz in Koran there are plenty a lot of signs. Maybe in each verse. But since i usually post long posts i won't make it longer than it's already is. But few examples for an ignorant who pretend to read holy books including Koran and obviously he doesn't.
1)It was Allah who sends the winds, and they raise the clouds: then they spread them in the sky as he wills, and breaks them into fragments, until you see rain-drops issue from the midst thereof: then when He has made them reach such of his servants as He wills, behold they rejoice-
verse No. 48, chapter the roman empire Surah No.30
2)It is Allah who sends forth the winds, so that they raise up the clouds, and we drive them to a land that is dead, and revive the earth therewith after its death: even so (will be) the resurrection.
verse No. 9, chapter the Fatir, or the orginator of the creation Surah No.35
3)Don't you see that Allah sends down rain from the sky, and leads it through springs in the earth? Then he causes the glow, therewith, produce of various colors: then it withers; you will see it grow yellow; then He makes it dry up and crumble away. Truly in this is a message of remembrance to men of understanding.
verse No. 21, chapter the crowds Surah No.39
O wait, they did happen but if you didn't caught up with then it's just another story.
yeah that's the part where i suppose to look like that hopeless sista who is so controlled by some old stories or myths. But guess what, as long as it the truth, i'm happy that i'm controlled by that.
here is some exclusive for you and i picked'em up coz they typically talk about people like yourself.
Verse #77Does not man see that it is We who created him from sperm yet behold! He (stands forth) as an open adversary!
Verse #78And he makes comparisons for Us, and forgets his own (origins and) creation: he says, “who can give life to (dry) bones and decomposed ones at that?”
Verse #79say “He will give them life who created them for the first time! For he is well-versed in every kind of creation!-3
Verse #80“The same who produces for you fire out of the green tree when behold! You kindle therewith (your own fires)
Verse #81“Is not He who created the heaven and earth able to create the like thereof?”- yes indeed for He is the creator supreme of skill and knowledge (infinite)!
Verse #82Verily, when he intend a thing, his command is, “Be and it is”
Verse #83:So glory to him in whose hands is dominion of all things: and to him will you be all brought back.
Chapter Ya-sin surah #36
