Jeru made 2 classic albums IMO in the 90's the sun rises in the east and wrath of the math.
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Jeru made 2 classic albums IMO in the 90's the sun rises in the east and wrath of the math.
both of these albums are 9/10 or above.
I think they are both worthy of top ten in the 90's. Premo is obviously the force behind these albums doing all the production and Jeru was on top of his game lyrically.
****when considering your opinion,don't count wu tang albums****
Imo the production on both those albums are better then the Gangstarr joints
and Jeru kills it, one of the best emcees of the 90's in my books
the sun rises in the east is overrated. some of the premo beats were nice but almost every track sounds the same. its one of those solid albums from the 90's but isnt a classic.
I havent listened to his 2nd album thoroughly so I wont pass judgment on that.
hm, i was just listening to the sun rises in the east recently.
I really dont rate it that highly actually.
I even heard people saying its Premier's best work?
I mean there are bangers on there, I can see why someone might say that, its rugged as fuck. But its not really that special.
If this is Primo's best album, I think its a great example of why hes isnt as good a producer as RZA. Theres not much depth there.
both classics but not top 10 of the entire 90's, that's too far.
^ agreed id take illmatic, liquid swords, ob4cl, ironman, infamous, ready to die, enta da stage, mecca, low end theory, chronic, 36 chambers...over them
those albums are not classic because of jeru, its because of the beats. lyrically hes really not anything to write home about. same boat as group home.
Nah they're classics both because of the beats and Jeru's proficiencies.
I prefer Wrath of the Math beat-wise though.
Sun is classic because of Jeru and the beats. They rely on each other.
If any of y'all deny jeru's one of the top MC's from Brooklyn you a fuck boy.
And just for the record, Infamous is overrated.
Come on. Jeru is lyrically on point, don't compare him to Group Home.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracks
Jeru is lightyears ahead of Group Home lyricallyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tracks
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Originally Posted by Slick
reasonable doubt
it was written
illmatic
ready to die
doe or die
capital punishment
only built 4 cuban linx
enter the wu-tang
roots of evil
the infamous
I think it's fair to say both albums are classic. My personal preference of the 2 is WOTM, but SRITE is excellent too.
However, without actually thinking about it, I'm pretty sure I could come up with 10 better albums from the 90's, even excluded Wu shit. There was just too much quality in that decade.
i didnt want to really get into jeru, my backpacker friend who listens to swedish rap listened to him so i really thought he mite be wack, but i mite check into the sun rises in the east, it seems like a highly touted album on here, ill be back with myopinion soon.
^Takes more than one listen to fully appreciate the grit.
ok i said before that both of them are classics but prob not top 10 of 90's...but now im kinda changin my mind, although i dont think its a top 10, def top 20, but if someone put it in their top 10 i wouldnt argue
aquemeni, OB4CL, liquid swords, illmatic, IWW, reasonable doubt, ready to die, moment of truth, doggystyle, the chronic, hell on earth/infamous, uptown saturday night, midnight mauraders, stakes is high... the list goes on. no not top 10
id say top 20 of the 90s
LOL @ Chungsanity's list. I Stopped reading at Reasonable Doubt.
I wouldn't put either Jeru drop in my top 10 but wouldn't argue anybody putting them in or if an official top 10 was ever made and either made it I wouldn't begrudge.
god damn, I just listened to wrath of the math and it has to be the worst album from the golden age - just horrendous. I have no idea how the poll is in favor for Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity
I put some effort into my post with integrity and I hope it could its view.
1. this disastrous sophomore album is a testament to how overrated premo is. he's the tupac of producing - he'll dish out classic efforts here and there, but then he's also got horrible, filler efforts that sound blatantly rushed and unmastered just to make your catalogue appear "cute and dandy" when really, the efficiency of quantity is greater than quality. that's the problem with wrath of the math, it atleast needed different producers for diversity - not saying that should always be the case, but premo simply could not carry this album alone.
2. Jeru is a subpar rapper who sounds like a rastafarian reggae artist trying to rap legitimately with the heavyweights, when he really has no distinctive swagger, mic presence, and flow. he's not the type of rapper for you to say "damn, that's jeru on the mic - I gotta bump this shit and amp myself up." he's far from it. he was decent on sun rises in the east, but his 2nd album was a complete turnoff. to be bluntly honest, I dont know how he was considered nice enough to even make albums, let alone a record deal.
3. the songs are horrible. SMH at premo sampling Big L's voice on black cowboy like Jeru deserves to be on the same track as harlem's finest, even through a sample.
and lmao @ not your average. easily the worst song from the 90's. the lyrics were laughable with horrible attempt at role-playing:
"Before long, we starts to undress and
With that I pulls out my pack of hats
She looks me dead in the eye and says "What's that?"
I said "Don't tell me you don't know what condoms is for"
She says "Yeah, but the average nigga'll love to hit it raw"
And I said
I'm not your average nigga
No I'm not your average nigga
You can't get me, I'm not your average nigga"
threadstarter was reaching real bad - Im truly not sure what your intentions were for this thread. sun rises in the east = top 10 is a reach, even though there were dope cuts on it (cant stop the prophet and d. original) his 2nd album is absolute blasphemy to the true 90's classics.
wrath of the math = 3/10.
Wow is this guy serious?!?!Quote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity
This guy rates Reasonable Doubt as the greatest hip hop cd of all time - and is deadly serious. That says it all about him.Quote:
Originally Posted by InspectahChek
I give up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity
the truth hurts. threadstarter must be highly respected on this site to even have the poll in favor of yes.
^ I think most of the cats on here know good hip hop when they hear it...
Haha - making your whining post long and paragraphed to make it look like it's a well thought out review......Quote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity
doesn't make it a well thought out review.
so you're basically saying I fabricated my honest review. why dont you stand up for the jeru stans and explain why wrath of the math is worthy to be in the 90's top 10 hiphop albums, or even be a classic album.
look at this man:
http://image.listen.com/img/356x237/...94_356x237.jpg
who is he, the father of al jefferson?
http://aljeffersonfans.com/files/200...-jefferson.jpg
he reminds me of those cats who's packin like a rasta in a weed spot. dont get it twisted though, I got respect for those reggae cats who blast bob marley joints on the streets.
jeru originally sounds like a reggae artist who wanted to change professions and become a hiphop artist. he didnt make a good transition right there.
He sounded pretty damn good to me in those years '94-'96.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity
Every artist can't and shouldn't sound the same like in today's hip hop,that's why hip hop as a whole is garbage nowadays...everybody sound like ya boy jigga.
I listened to Wrath again yesterday and it's almost better than The Sun for me.
I'd definitely put his first 3 albums above Reasonable Doubt.
i listened to the sun rises in the east and honestly i didnt like it too much, maybe i gotta give it more spins but aint the devil happy is a sick song, and come clean, i love the rzas laugh sampled in aint the devil happy thats dope, you cant stop the prophet is pretty good as well, my mind spray is good too, my fav track is probably come clean, i love that beat, jungle musik isnt bad either, im goin to give wrath of the math a spin and then come back with more thoughts.
i kno ur not comparing other rappers to people/things cuz heres oneQuote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity
http://www.hiphoproll.com/wp-content.../jayz-9646.jpg
http://www.exclaim.ca/images/up-camel_lrg.jpg
which ones jay-z i cant tell em apart, they like twins, lol.
You find more things to appreciate in Jeru's albums every listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasjit
now that's a stretch; Preemo produced 3 classic albums for Jeru and Group Home (we're talking beats here). Group Home's album was the best as far as beatmaking, mixing, sequencing, interludes, executively producing - that's a milestone in Preemo's book.. but Group Home is a far cry from the skills of Jeru The Damaja, a FAAAAR cry - Jeru is really dope actually.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tracks
on topic: yes both those Jeru albums are great but neither makes a top-10 list for me.. and as Ghostlaced said; these albums are fantastic and might be Preemo's best production but look at RZA's best produced LP's ("OB4CL", "Ironman", "Liquid Swords", "Enter The Wu-Tang") and these are all better imo. The production Preem did on "Livin' Proof" is the only real challenger for me but because of the rappers it can never be up there.
* Only Built 4 Cuban Linx
* Liquid Swords
* Illmatic
* Enter The Wu-Tang
* Runaway Slave
* The Infamous
* Word...Life
* Reasonable Doubt
* Ironman
* Center of Attention
are 10 albums I feel are better for example.. this ain't like no definite top-10 or so but the 5 first are probably placed in order. the rest definitely fits in a top 20 of the '90s (the first Jeru album probably does too though).
lmao @ Chungsanity 3/10?
you fucking chump lol
Just listened to Wrath of the math last night for the hell of it...no fast forwarding what so ever. lyrics/production ,sequence, subject matter, shit is still dope 12 years later.
lmao @ 17 votes for yes and not one of those people giving their top 10 list.
yall gotta realize Jigga is who we all aspire to be, dont we? I cant talk for everyone like that? unless you wanna be a missionary who helps out 3rd world countries, then its safe to say people wanna live the american, canadian, or european dream just like Jayhovah is. he definitely had more chicks sit on his face than we could possibly imagine.
I'd put Sun Rises in the East in the top 20. That's out of just the east coast classics.
LOL y the fuck would everyone aspire to be jayz cuz hes a successful rapper with money? not everyone wants to be a rapper jackass, fuck u faggot, ur the same guy that sed follow the leader was wack homo get the fuck outta here already damn.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chungsanity