are just as ignorant as those who wear tin foil hats and bang their chest over everything in this country being a conspiracy
does anyone agree
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are just as ignorant as those who wear tin foil hats and bang their chest over everything in this country being a conspiracy
does anyone agree
Sorry brother but this seems like a bit of a contradiction. If you say people who deny conspiracies are ignorant then how can you say people who believe them are ignorant also?
haha yea
that sentence makes no sense
Salaam (Peace)...
I think that, given the clear record of the histories of governments and the corruptions that have poisoned them (particularly America), those who "blindly deny" conspiracies are either in a WORSE condition than those who "blindly accept" or assert such conspiracies, or they -- the deniers -- are actually a PART of the Conspiracies, themselves...maybe BOTH.Quote:
people who blindly deny conspiracy in america are just as ignorant as those who wear tin foil hats and bang their chest over everything in this country being a conspiracy
does anyone agree?
The word "conspiracy" means, loosely, a group of two or more people who are in agreement to commit a certain act, or produce a certain result...usually unethical.
That being the case...
Was the Trans-Atlantic Slave Trade the work of "one man"? Or, a "conspiracy"?
Was the "Tuskeegee Experiment" the work of one man? Or, a conspiracy?
Was the robbing of land from the Native Americans the work of one man? Or, a "conspiracy"?
Is the present woeful condition of the Black Male (on average) the result of some "genetic predisposition" to mediocrity and/or apathy...or is it the result of a "conspiracy"?
why? the dude above you made a perfectly valid point ... you could learn something in this thread boyQuote:
Originally Posted by Robert
ur not paying attention brotherQuote:
Originally Posted by mastapowerful
I am paying attention, perhaps you worded it poorly? I think those who "blindly accept" and those who "blindly deny" are obviously equally ignorant.Quote:
Originally Posted by speakonitgod
I agree with speak, but at the same time, you have to remember that the main reason why people deny these things, is because they're scared shitless.
I don't think that it's a case of them not believing that it's possible, though some do, but I think it's more a thing of them not being able to handle the truth.
The distractions that the system has put in place to keep the masses pacified, along with the mental conditioning, the spiritual murder, and moral crucifictions that are constantly being thrown at us on a daily basis aren't for nothing.
I've given this example before, but I feel the need to do it again. Anyone recall in the first, "Matrix", when Neo had just been unplugged and he was going through that training simulation with the woman in the red dress? That is one of my favorite scenes because the jewels that Morpheus dropped were so true about our world and it's condition. Namely, when he speaks of the minds of the people who are still plugged in, and tells Neo that these people are so dependent on the system that they will give their lives to defend it.
The very same can be said for the peoples of the world who fully believe, despite all of the evidence proving otherwise, that their govrnments have their best interest at heart.
The funny thing about conspiracies is the fact that a lot of them make perfect sense. I read a lot about them and have said, "Oh shit!" quite often when reading. It's the fact that the information is so unexpected, outlandish and all around evil that keeps people from approaching or believing these, "theories".
Personally, I don't see what's so hard to believe. Excluding blatantly obvious facts like The 9-11 Conspiracy and all of the evidence pointing to the U.S. in terms of whodunnit, the explosives attached to the buildings, no wreckage found in Penn. or D.C. etc, the fact that the images of Uncle Sam and Baphomet are practically identical, the tracing out of streets in D.C. making an upside-down pentagram pointing directly @ The White House, the various symbols of not-so-secret societies that saturate the $1 bill.....let's leave all that out and remember this one very precious truth about evil.....usually.....the best way to hide is right out in public.
The best way to conquer your enemy, is by seeming like a friend.
That's why if you try to tell someone what's really going on, you're met with, "That's impossible! This is the United States! This is a free country! We're all about freedom!" The baby would be horrified if he or she were to turn on the light and find that the hand that fed it was covered in reptilian scales and what should've been milk was really cyanide and kool-aid. So, most people choose to stay in the dark.
It is that group of people that is the majority though. Personally, I know that the world's governments are full of shit and conducting a silent (for now) genocide on the people and not a living ass can tell me otherwise. There's no other reason to use high fructose corn syrup in most ready-to-eat products, even some you wouldn't expect, like, "Total" and "Wheaties", instead of using natural sugar, or NO sweeteners at all in the case of the two above-mentioned products, unless you KNOW that when this shit bypasses the pancreas too often, the pancreas will shut down all together. It's a great war tactic if you really think about it, plus it saves you money to build more weapons of mass destruction. Don't even get me started on the poisons in fast food and it's availability to the masses either. Yet people still scratch their heads and wonder why 11 and 12 yr. old kids are poppin' up with shit like diabetes.
Real knowledge in itself is heavy shit. Scary, powerful and unsettling on some level. Even the truest of men will at some point want to throw up. Still, I don't get too angry at the people who choose to walk around with their eyes wide shut, because the truth is like death, no matter how hard or how fast you run, in the end, it will hunt you down and make the kill.
The knowledge of conspiracy is like all other knowledge worth gaining. It takes a while to put the pieces together and once put together, you're faced with the, "what next", decision. In between those two stages though, there's a point where a great fear comes over you. No enemy worth conquering is going to be a pushover, but these faggots aren't exactly immortals either, now are they?
So, for the people who want to take the, "What are YOU going to do about it, if it IS true??" standpoint, all I can tell you pendejo, it's a surprise.*(:)
i don't know anybody at all who believes that the government has their best interests at heart. the recent economic floundering has really opened people's eyes up to the deception and ass-fucking the government constantly participates in, and people are growing - reasonably - cynical.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz
i don't believe it was a conspiracy at all. if, for example, the government would be willing to kill thousands of people on 9/11, why wouldn't they kill three frat boys making videos disposing of the entire evil plot? i don't know enough about the signs on the dollar to make a strong comment on that one in either direction (i'll do some more research and get back to you), but the Uncle Sam looking like Baphomet seems to be a bit overly paranoid.Quote:
Excluding blatantly obvious facts like The 9-11 Conspiracy and all of the evidence pointing to the U.S. in terms of whodunnit, the explosives attached to the buildings, no wreckage found in Penn. or D.C. etc, the fact that the images of Uncle Sam and Baphomet are practically identical, the tracing out of streets in D.C. making an upside-down pentagram pointing directly @ The White House, the various symbols of not-so-secret societies that saturate the $1 bill.....let's leave all that out and remember this one very precious truth about evil.....usually.....the best way to hide is right out in public.
i don't react in the same way, but i refuse to accept something without concrete information. it's apparent that there are certain people who have tremendous influence in the world, but that doesn't mean these people live on islands shaped like skulls and plot the rest of the world's demise. conspiracy theorists tend to make the jump to something grander (from a handful of terrorists to the New World Order), although the evidence is the other way.Quote:
That's why if you try to tell someone what's really going on, you're met with, "That's impossible! This is the United States! This is a free country! We're all about freedom!" The baby would be horrified if he or she were to turn on the light and find that the hand that fed it was covered in reptilian scales and what should've been milk was really cyanide and kool-aid. So, most people choose to stay in the dark.
people don't die from diabetes though, at least not often enough to be classifiable as "genocide." the government may not be behind all diseases plaguing the country (AIDS, cancer, the swine flu), but they aren't doing anything to help it. that doesn't mean it's to kill us and take us over. what gets them more money: slowly and laboriously treating you, letting people die to make others have more concern, and feeding you torture porn, OR curing it and having it be done with?Quote:
It is that group of people that is the majority though. Personally, I know that the world's governments are full of shit and conducting a silent (for now) genocide on the people and not a living ass can tell me otherwise. There's no other reason to use high fructose corn syrup in most ready-to-eat products, even some you wouldn't expect, like, "Total" and "Wheaties", instead of using natural sugar, or NO sweeteners at all in the case of the two above-mentioned products, unless you KNOW that when this shit bypasses the pancreas too often, the pancreas will shut down all together. It's a great war tactic if you really think about it, plus it saves you money to build more weapons of mass destruction. Don't even get me started on the poisons in fast food and it's availability to the masses either. Yet people still scratch their heads and wonder why 11 and 12 yr. old kids are poppin' up with shit like diabetes.
basically, i would just like facts, and based on what facts i have, i'd say you're being overly paranoid. if you can prove me wrong i'll gladly concede.
I thought the word conspiracy meant something a little narrower. That is, including secrecy to the act. With those cases you listed, I don't know how secret they really were at the time. They are undoubtedly unethical by today's standards. Ethical history is a wide subject itself and is responsible for many events.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Muhammad
Just because you don't know anyone who feels this way, doesn't mean they aren't there, nor does it mean that maybe they just don't express how they really feel about it, as most people don't like to talk politics. The recent economic crisis may have opened up some people's eyes, but clearly not enough for them to really step forward and demand answers as to why it happened in the first place.Quote:
Originally Posted by Threyev
What you think and what's really going on are two different things. War has always been the greatest business and clearly films like Loose Change, and Farenhieght were completely lost on you. Be that as it may though, you seem to fit quite nicely into that group of people who seems to insist on a rude awakening. Since 9-11 wasn't a conspiracy at all, then where is the wreckage from flight 93? Why aren't there pieces of plane, seats, clothes, luggage, all the usual signs of a plane crash? As for The Pentagon, not only do I ask the same question, but why weren't the names of the people who dies there read along with the rest? What? They didn't matter? Their families o.k.'d this? Or maybe that entire section of the building was vacated beforehand.
Don't bother looking up the $1 Dollar bill, because all you'll probably come back with is something like, "It's just creativity, you're paranoid." and the like. I suppose the statue of George Washington that is also an exact replica to the pose that Baphomet is in, is also all a matter of paranoia and coincidence as well.
So, because people don't die from diabetes, that makes it o.k. to use high fructose corn syrup instead of natural sugar right? Is that it? You're basically saying, "Well Ma'am, as long as your child isn't dead, diabetes isn't all that bad!" Nice one chief. It's still a disease that causes people pain, and in extreme cases, hinders them from doing every day activities. That doesn't mean their trying to kill us and take us over. Well, first of all, most of us are already taken over and statements like that just proved it. Second, if you don't think they're trying to kill us, consider all of the various chemicals that are being put into the livestock, the pesticides that are being sprayed onto the plants, whos poisons soak into the plant itself, so no matter how often you wash them, you still ingest them. Plus, the next time you look up and see what you believe to be a jet-stream, and it lingers WAY longer than a normal one after the plane is gone from sight, you might want to google the term, "chemtrails" and read up on that one as well.
What makes them money? Seriously?
:lmao:
Ok, follow me here, you get sick, what do most people do when they get sick. They go to a doctor. That doctor prescribes a drug for them to take that will dull the pain. Mask the symptoms. With the money that you pay for the rest of your life to fill these various prescriptions, multiplied by the number of people with multiple prescriptions, you can pretty much see where all of this is going. The pharmacies aren't in the business of, "finding cures", because there's no fuckin' MONEY in a cure. A cure means that you don't come back to fill any more prescriptions. That's why we're taught to put ultimate faith in what our doctor says, we have to trust what he or she tells us and never question it. Ever wonder why the FDA and Pharmacutical companies attacked homeboy for putting out, "Natural Cures....." and why he had to take out a bulk of his original information during the first publishing? No. Of course you didn't.
By the way, Cayenne Pepper kills cancer cells. Take 2 40,000 mg capsules with every meal and it'll be dead within weeks. 1 month tops, for early stage cases. It may take longer for more severe cases, but not too much longer.:yes:
The facts are all around you, if you'd bother to look in the right places. Anyone who doesn't know, refuses to know. Seeing as this is, "The Information Age" and the means to weigh one arguement against another are literally at the tips of our fingers.
Yo Urban Journalz be breakin it down!!
Get yo mind right people
Motha fuckas that dont believe in conspiracies are cheating themselves. You have been programmed to label people as conspiracy theorist when they hit you with some knowledge because these motha fuckas dont want us thinking outside the box!!!!!!Think about it threyev ure one of em
when the US govt is overthrowing democratically elected presidents in south america, you know somethings up, when noriega stopped paying attention to the CIA and gets taken out, you know somethings up, when they overthrow the govt of iran and install the shah as their leader u know somethings up, same with iraq, and they install saddam but saddam stopped following US ideas and ended up getting invaded in the 90s and killed in the 00's.
Then people deny that they are trying to instill fear into the hearts of men when murder rates drop 20 percent and coverage of murder on news channels increase 600 percent.
Corporations run the world, theyll help u out but when u fail to follow their orders, theyll take u out.
droppin Jewels Sun!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasjit
Much respect to Urban Journalz.
Those who deny conspiracies probably were not paying attention in history class.
Sometimes the proof may not be evident, but the signs are there like Jasjit pointed out.
Fair enough, but it isn't wise for either of us to make blanket statements, which we both kind of did, but i still stand by that most people are, at the very least, questioning the government.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz
i wouldn't say that they were lost on me, it was just that they didn't provide me with enough proof. I don't put anything past the government, but in this case i think they weren't the perpetrators. there were interesting ideas presented, and after seeing both films (and another one, Jersey Girls i think it was called--or something along those lines) i was certainly leaning towards your perspective. but then i looked to other sources, took the argument from both sides, and decided that my beliefs lied where they do. i'm not implying, so you know, that you haven't done this, i'm just trying to let you know where i'm coming from.Quote:
What you think and what's really going on are two different things. War has always been the greatest business and clearly films like Loose Change, and Farenhieght were completely lost on you.
in regards to flight 93, there is wreckage, i could give you links to the pictures if you'd like (i don't know how to put pics in my post, sorry).Quote:
Be that as it may though, you seem to fit quite nicely into that group of people who seems to insist on a rude awakening. Since 9-11 wasn't a conspiracy at all, then where is the wreckage from flight 93? Why aren't there pieces of plane, seats, clothes, luggage, all the usual signs of a plane crash? As for The Pentagon, not only do I ask the same question, but why weren't the names of the people who dies there read along with the rest? What? They didn't matter? Their families o.k.'d this? Or maybe that entire section of the building was vacated beforehand.
now, speaking about the pentagon, you have to consider that this is a plane crashing at full speed into the side of a building. things are going to get broken from the mammoth impact force. there was lots of debris on the site, and how could that have gotten there beforehand, considering that everybody driving past the Pentagon that morning would've caught them red-handed?
to be completely honest, i've never heard from anybody else what you've said regarding that their names weren't read. i'll have to look that up and get back to you.
look, i'm not putting anything past the government, as i said. if you show me a substantial amount of evidence, maybe i'll be able to come to a different conclusion.Quote:
Don't bother looking up the $1 Dollar bill, because all you'll probably come back with is something like, "It's just creativity, you're paranoid." and the like. I suppose the statue of George Washington that is also an exact replica to the pose that Baphomet is in, is also all a matter of paranoia and coincidence as well.
i know about chemtrails "chief." i don't put that past the government at all, and am completely with you on that one.Quote:
So, because people don't die from diabetes, that makes it o.k. to use high fructose corn syrup instead of natural sugar right? Is that it? You're basically saying, "Well Ma'am, as long as your child isn't dead, diabetes isn't all that bad!" Nice one chief. It's still a disease that causes people pain, and in extreme cases, hinders them from doing every day activities. That doesn't mean their trying to kill us and take us over. Well, first of all, most of us are already taken over and statements like that just proved it. Second, if you don't think they're trying to kill us, consider all of the various chemicals that are being put into the livestock, the pesticides that are being sprayed onto the plants, whos poisons soak into the plant itself, so no matter how often you wash them, you still ingest them. Plus, the next time you look up and see what you believe to be a jet-stream, and it lingers WAY longer than a normal one after the plane is gone from sight, you might want to google the term, "chemtrails" and read up on that one as well.
regarding the diabetes remark, i wasn't implying that it doesn't cause pain, only that it wasn't "genocide" as you put it. perhaps it was manufactured by the government, perhaps it wasn't. again, i wouldn't be surprised, although at this point i haven't seen enough evidence.
that's the point i was trying to make... guess i worded it poorly.Quote:
What makes them money? Seriously?
:lmao:
Ok, follow me here, you get sick, what do most people do when they get sick. They go to a doctor. That doctor prescribes a drug for them to take that will dull the pain. Mask the symptoms. With the money that you pay for the rest of your life to fill these various prescriptions, multiplied by the number of people with multiple prescriptions, you can pretty much see where all of this is going. The pharmacies aren't in the business of, "finding cures", because there's no fuckin' MONEY in a cure. A cure means that you don't come back to fill any more prescriptions. That's why we're taught to put ultimate faith in what our doctor says, we have to trust what he or she tells us and never question it. Ever wonder why the FDA and Pharmacutical companies attacked homeboy for putting out, "Natural Cures....." and why he had to take out a bulk of his original information during the first publishing? No. Of course you didn't.
i'm not 'refusing' to believe anything. if this NWO or Illuminati or whichever you believe it is, i'd much prefer to know about it and perhaps find somewhat to fight back and/or prevent it. it's just that i haven't received enough information. perhaps you could change that...?Quote:
The facts are all around you, if you'd bother to look in the right places. Anyone who doesn't know, refuses to know. Seeing as this is, "The Information Age" and the means to weigh one arguement against another are literally at the tips of our fingers.
one quick question i'm having while skimming some of that dollar stuff: why would the Illuminati put their signs in the open like this? wouldn't they want things to stay secret and under wraps, rather than blatantly having images of their society all over the place (more specifically that Baphomet thing, which i have to admit is a little creepy)?
sorry to go on this post-festival here.
[QUOTE=neo n tha matrix;1559308Think about it threyev ure one of em[/QUOTE] i'm not saying it's all wrong, i just believe that
a) 9/11 was NOT an inside job
b) the people running the world aren't as organized as Urban thinks. they certainly exist (as illustrated by Jasjit's post) , but in a less formal way. to deny that would be idiotic.
i don't want people to think i'm some government supporter who rejects everything people put out there and only listen to what's being fed to me. i just like to have facts before me, and i really can't get enough concrete evidence in the 9/11 situation and organized New World Order and Illuminati stuff.
Well, signs and symbols are open to interpretation. To the public it may mean one thing, to the insiders something different.Quote:
Originally Posted by Threyev
Therefore, it is a good form of communication to insiders without outsiders knowing what it really means.
pure truthQuote:
Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz
People who believe in every conspiracy they hear of or read are just as blind as the people who blindly deny all of them.
They are part of the same group just on opposite ends of that same group.
Both are bull-headed stubborn fucking morons. Extremists. ONly able to see things one way.
word to your post.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz
but theres one thing ive never understood properly.
how will that help? i might not see the bigger picture of this statement but imo the best way to conquer your enemy is to know what youre dealing with and at the same time do something about it. This aint godfather shit this is bigger than that, i find it hard how being quiet and pretending to be blind can help anything, unless by "conquer" you mean conquering yourselfQuote:
Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz
Keep your friends close, but your enemies closer.
This is why dictators are often weary of the people around them.
Its how Stalin, as brutal as he was, was able to stay around as long as he did, even if he was overly paranoid.
Its a very good strategy, especially if your enemy does not know that you are his enemy.
Of course it is not applicable in every situation, but nothing is.
My brother said something today which resonated with me.
Alex Jones is worse than Bill O'Reily.
I agree.
You faggits are scared, of the plain and simple truth.
So you formulate these 'theories' out of thin air, in order to support your demented paranoid beliefs.
Your so brainwashed its not even funny. Plus you got beat up by whites as a kid and haven't been able to cope with it yet.Quote:
Originally Posted by speakonitgod
Exactly...they are all part of the same line of thinking.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Bateman
MSNBC is the same as FOXNEWS......Olbermann can be worse than O'Reillly at times. I mean i was watching one day and he spent the whole time attacking Bush and Republicans, and I don't think anything was produced aside from bashing.
I mean really, whats the difference between that and what Anne Coulter does?
Nothing.
Both sides are unproductive and filled with hate for the other side. Extremists. These are teh people who hold society down.
People who cannot see both sides and bridge the gap.
Thats what I say all the time here.
The most dangerous is the one who got the most influence, either way they're both clowns.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pat Bateman
You say that people don't believe in America because they are "scared".
It is my opinion that people BELIEVE in conspiracy theories because they are scared and/or unhappy.
It is much scarier to realize that the entire world is made up of fine intricacies and shades of gray. There is no black and white, good and evil. Oftentimes, the answers to the questions of "what to think" and "what is right" are vague and unattainable.
That is something that people have trouble accepting. It is EASIER for them to create fictitious ideas of "right" and "wrong". Rather than accepting the fact that different cultures have different ideals, beliefs and moral codes, they choose to believe that a highly organized and innately sinister group of individuals is responsible for all of the world's evils.
Because they are SCARED to face the reality that the realities of the world have not clear and easy.
It feels safer to believe that evil men create diseases and start wars for personal gain than to acknowledge the complexities of humankind and nature itself.
Which isn't to say that the US government has done no wrong. They have proven capable of such in the past, although in today's society, government secrecy is, for obvious reasons, increasingly difficult.
this is the way i see conspiracy theories:
the people who believe in them seem to be open minded people. the people who don't believe in them see the people who do as fundamentally flawed. these two groups will always exist.
so it doesn't matter even if people are exposing governments as being evil, they know that the other group is there to call them lunatics.
basically, i could establish a secret society right now and start to control the world, and the majority would be on my side because they would believe belief in this would be foolish.
george bush sr. and the current prime minister of britian have both used the term "new world order" in their speeches.
and here's a quote from john d rockefeller's memoirs:
"For more than a century ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents such as my encounter with Castro to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as 'internationalists' and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure -- one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it."
True.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolish
I think just the opposites. The people who believe in conspiracy theories tend to be extremely close-minded.
THey only seek information, almost never accurate or verified, and cling to it despite NO real evidence or proof.
They have no interest in truth or fact, but just furthering their agenda or seeking erroneous information that supports beliefs that they cling to against all logic.
And Koolish, the bottom line is that you can't start a secret society and start to control the world.
just being hypothetical.
I understand.
But what I'm saying is that it isn't easy for anyone to start a secret organization and "take over the world".
In fact, I am going to say that it is damn near impossible.
Fuck alex jones, for all we know this guys a cia agent hired to make people even more confused about everything than they already might be, dont follow a man, make ur own interpretations, yea he probably is as bad as bill or reilly and olberman and all them actors being portrayed as fair news anchors.
Agreed.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadiesLoveCoolDan
New World Order was a term that stems from the end of World War I, used by Woodrow Wilson.Quote:
Originally Posted by Koolish
It was meant as a means to spread democracy to the defeated nations of Europe in particular and to allow autonomy, and thus the people would choose democracy and idealistically, that would be the case.
Wilson turned out to be too idealistic, as it did not take nor did his 14 points.
I find it funny how New World Order has become synonomous with this evil secret takeover and that the 'man' will be watching your every move.
Thats ridiculous on so many levels. And in practice, it obviously does not work when you see the shortcoming of Wilsons plan, and recently Bush, Jr.s.
The problem with conspiracy's is that they usually gloss over major details and make outrageous presumtions. Furthermore, the reason they remain conspiracy's is because they lack any evidence to prove they are NOT conspiracy's.
Only an idiot would blindly deny something without knowing the absolute truth. But at the same time only an idiot would blindly accept something as fact without proof.
this is a good post, but its not just the conspiracy theorists who are the scared ones, because the average person is being bred to be a fearful person with all the overwhelming coverage of terrorism, and crime on the airwaves.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadiesLoveCoolDan
The media are the people who made people scared of jews, blacks, communists etc. these guys fuel every fire, and try to make you see things from their point of view, an example of this, related to my south american overthrowing of governments example, is when hugo chavez was being overthrown and his supporters were shown on a bridge shooting down to the supposedly people filled streets below, while at a different angle the same scene was shown with the streets below being totally empty, they tried to paint hugo chavez as a horrible president, and his supporters as extremists, while chavez was supporting the 80 percent of the population which are the poorer people rather than the 20 percent of the rich people, the 20 percent despised him causing the US to intervene and try to please the major businesses and corporations.
I agree to an extent. There are scared and, more often, ignorant people on all sides of the spectrum.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jasjit
I wouldn't respect anyone who blindly trusted every word the government spoke or believed everything he saw on the news.
But the media, in as of itself, is not evil, although people can manipulate the media FOR evil. It is not good either. It essentially exists only to get people to view the different outlet's particular medium.
The media simply wants stories that will attract viewership. If people didn't want to watch sensationalistic stories, media would not show them.
As for Chavez, he is a perfect example of someone manipulating the media to further his own agenda. While I can say that I, personally don't find him to be a "good" guy or agree with his policies, that does not make him "evil".
At least our country has a sensational media that attempts to expose everything our government does.
While it may TRY to cover things up, the very nature of our country allows us to truly have the most transparent government in the history of the world.
are u saying that chavez manipulated the media, or someone did to change peoples viewpoints on him? Chavez actually went on the governmetn channel i think it was and took phone calls from needy citizens, which i think is a reallly really cool thing to do especially if ur in that position of power.Quote:
Originally Posted by LadiesLoveCoolDan
I love how people are so quick to glorify any man who is a antagonist of the U.S. and will make every excuse in the book for them.
Its like they have these strict guidelines for the United States govt.,but they cover their eyes when it comes to other more obviously corrupt nations.
They STILL do that shit with Castro.
YOu can be critical of governments all you want, thats fine, but be fucking consistent. It makes you look like you have an agenda.
BUt than again, most of the time, these people do.
Dan, we don't often agree on things (which I'm fine with) but usually you have very sound reasoning. I gotta say this post is a diversion from that.
You'd have to know what you don't know to truly know just how transparent our government really is. (I realize that's an impossibility)Quote:
Originally Posted by LadiesLoveCoolDan
But then you'd have to acknowledge that you can put the information out there as long as no one actually finds it. They'll burry it underneath a mountain of sensationalistic bullshit so deep that the majority of people will just call you a conspiracy nut by the time you actually find it. ;)
c'mon everyone has an agenda. It's futile to even try to deny that.Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
Just like our media makes it a point to bash the leader of any nation that doesn't fall in line with US foreign policy.