For all the posturing about how Hip Hop has become soft, and how Kanye and others having introduced faggit elements for the genre, people here really hate hardcore shit.
If Big L dropped Lifestyles today, people here would complain about how he "curses" too much and how the beats are boring.
Just reading the reception to The Blaqprint outlines to me how none of you will ever be satisfied with new material, unless it features whatever faggit you're dickriding this month (Bone Thugs, Gucci etc.)
Kurupt and DJ Quik dropped another great release, no one here could give a shit though, i guess Kurupt curses too much for their liking.
Cormega, drops another unrelenting album, and no one gives a shit. In fact, all of Mega's albums are uncompromising, and he's almost universally ignored.
Faggits.
12-25-2009, 01:25 AM
whitey
word life pat.
12-25-2009, 02:13 AM
spiggity_ace
damn i been sleepin on al 3 of those albums u mentioned but my freidns keep tellin me they werent that great, bsaed on this opinion im goin to go listen to them
12-25-2009, 11:15 AM
djskillz
I could've told ya that. It's funny to me though. Most people are never satisfied here.
12-25-2009, 02:07 PM
oDoUoSoKo
that cover is serious.
12-25-2009, 02:11 PM
oDoUoSoKo
btw as much as i want to agree with you..some of this shit has potential to be phenominal..but has flaws...like that track u posted sounds like shit. and as much as cormega brought the lyrics and the beats were dope on his shit...his delivery was crap.
12-25-2009, 02:26 PM
Urban_Journalz
Quote:
Originally Posted by djskillz
I could've told ya that. It's funny to me though. Most people are never satisfied here.
You can say that again. I knew something was fishy when people started bitching about Immortal Technique who, in my opinion, is the nicest to come out of Harlem since the late, great Big L. It's troubling, because it almost seems like some people feel that the commercially accepted shit is essential to thier collection, in order for them not to be viewed as strange people. If something popular catches my ear, I'll listen to it, if not, I drop it. Like that, "LOL Smiley Face" song. By far some of the DUMBEST shit to curse the airwaves, yes? But some people swear by it, because there are no serious or hardcore lyrics/concepts involved at all.
If an emcee, "curses too much", you sometimes have to look at the reason why he's cursing. Some of the things Technique says are very likely to offend a lot of people. He has a good method to his madness though. Unlike Redman who curses simply because he can. Not taking anything away from his work (the earlier work anyway) because he does have skills.
There's just too many pussies listening to Hip-Hop nowadays. Even the underground/true school is questionable.
12-25-2009, 02:50 PM
yonatan15
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz
You can say that again. I knew something was fishy when people started bitching about Immortal Technique who, in my opinion, is the nicest to come out of Harlem since the late, great Big L. It's troubling, because it almost seems like some people feel that the commercially accepted shit is essential to thier collection, in order for them not to be viewed as strange people. If something popular catches my ear, I'll listen to it, if not, I drop it. Like that, "LOL Smiley Face" song. By far some of the DUMBEST shit to curse the airwaves, yes? But some people swear by it, because there are no serious or hardcore lyrics/concepts involved at all.
If an emcee, "curses too much", you sometimes have to look at the reason why he's cursing. Some of the things Technique says are very likely to offend a lot of people. He has a good method to his madness though. Unlike Redman who curses simply because he can. Not taking anything away from his work (the earlier work anyway) because he does have skills.
There's just too many pussies listening to Hip-Hop nowadays. Even the underground/true school is questionable.
Redman > Immortal Technique
12-25-2009, 03:07 PM
5hundred&one
^ in any time period
12-25-2009, 03:11 PM
sdeblasi
Quote:
Originally Posted by yonatan15
Redman > Immortal Technique
do people actually feel otherwise???
Immortal Tech can be dope but theres no way he can even see Redman in the grand scheme of things
12-25-2009, 03:18 PM
5hundred&one
it's not that I have a problem listening to hardcore hip-hop, I probably have a harder core (no homo) than most of you faggits, it's just that the wannabe 90s MCs that put out 'hardcore' hip-hop nowadays suck dick by the truckload.
why would I listen to jedi mind tricks? that is terrible god awful music, but ppl like it cause they have 'dark' beats and they're 'lyrical' and they talk about beating women or whatever the fuck you virgins think is cool these days.
OJ da juiceman is way more entertaining, so that's what I'm gonna listen to, if I want hardcore 90s sounding street shit, I'll listen to 90s street shit, fuck all the revivalists. It's like listening to green day when I have all the clash records on vinyl, no fuckin thanks.
that bein said, kurupt's shit was pretty dope, I can't front on that shit at all. cormega was aight, but I'm more anxious to see what cnn does with raekwon.
12-25-2009, 03:25 PM
TSA
Its gucci!
12-25-2009, 03:28 PM
oDoUoSoKo
how is OJ da Juiceman AT ALL entertaining in a non condescending way?
12-25-2009, 03:37 PM
djskillz
I honestly have no idea why people like OJ Da Juiceman. Gucci Mane at least sounds SEMI intelligent when he wants to and he can spit some dope shit over dope beats. I see NO redeeming qualities in this nigga (OJ da Juiceman that is).
12-25-2009, 04:59 PM
Blackprint
Blaqprint is dope.
<---- derp derp
12-25-2009, 05:26 PM
beautifulrock
Wasn't Redman like #1 on Eminem's list? Pat reminded me I gotta listen to that Mega joint, but seriously, was anybody sleeping on Cormega after Radiant Jewels dropped? I don't think so.
12-25-2009, 07:25 PM
5hundred&one
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
how is OJ da Juiceman AT ALL entertaining in a non condescending way?
Quote:
Originally Posted by djskillz
I honestly have no idea why people like OJ Da Juiceman. Gucci Mane at least sounds SEMI intelligent when he wants to and he can spit some dope shit over dope beats. I see NO redeeming qualities in this nigga (OJ da Juiceman that is).
cuz he still eats da calamari pasta, still got da drunk goin ham, that shit's on slam my nigga.
still doin da aye, okay, ya feel me? still trappin, got trap money, got vvs carats damn near see through cuz, what u know bout dat cuz? fuck wit me dog, aye.
12-25-2009, 07:41 PM
Ghost In The 'Lac
Haha pat shut up.
Your just mad no one shares your manlove for 2 very average albums. Blaq album was average to boring, as was quik and kurputs album, which was no where near them at their peak.
I agree that there are too many soft faggots on here into lupe and slaughterhouse soft shit over some mobb deep or anything Gangsta is looked down upon for some reason.
there is no "hardcore" hip hop out these days from the east. not that i would call hardcore anyway.
12-25-2009, 07:52 PM
oDoUoSoKo
lmao^^ Lacey will never win, no one can be on his side cuz a) hes fuckin nuts and b) no one else can fit in his room with all those bizzy bone blow up dolls he got.
12-25-2009, 07:56 PM
Ghost In The 'Lac
Dusk how do you have the nerve to post in hip hop shop after all the brutal beatings youve taken lol?
You think Lupe is a greater than 2pac, your a mess.
12-25-2009, 08:01 PM
oDoUoSoKo
because i havent taken any, i think ur refering to BIzzy Bone getting his fuckin chewing gum rapper jewelery snatched, post ass handage...lawls.
12-25-2009, 09:08 PM
rainbow
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
btw as much as i want to agree with you..some of this shit has potential to be phenominal..but has flaws...like that track u posted sounds like shit. and as much as cormega brought the lyrics and the beats were dope on his shit...his delivery was crap.
You're crazy if you think that track is shit.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 501 Gold
why would I listen to jedi mind tricks? that is terrible god awful music, but ppl like it cause they have 'dark' beats and they're 'lyrical' and they talk about beating women or whatever the fuck you virgins think is cool these days.
I never mentioned JMT.
Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Wasn't Redman like #1 on Eminem's list? Pat reminded me I gotta listen to that Mega joint, but seriously, was anybody sleeping on Cormega after Radiant Jewels dropped? I don't think so.
I've hardly heard him talked about here in the time i've been posting. His catalog is fair superior to a lot of the pathetic material people here fawn over.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacey Bone
Haha pat shut up.
Your just mad no one shares your manlove for 2 very average albums. Blaq album was average to boring, as was quik and kurputs album, which was no where near them at their peak.
I agree that there are too many soft faggots on here into lupe and slaughterhouse soft shit over some mobb deep or anything Gangsta is looked down upon for some reason.
there is no "hardcore" hip hop out these days from the east. not that i would call hardcore anyway.
You thought OB4CL2 was the second coming of the messiah and probably would have committed ritual suicide if Bizzy Bone had been featured somewhere on it.
CL2 is a perfect example of what you're describing. A mediocre and ultimately boring album, which definitely had very few hardcore moments.
Raekwon, at some point after Immobilarity, lost the ability to rhyme on beat, which makes the album cumbersome and awkward.
Say what you want, but the reason you think The Blaqprint is mediocre, is because you can't stomach hardcore shit.
It's ok, everyone already thinks you're softer than Palehorse's doughy face, so don't worry about that.
Just admit, that you can't take it.
12-25-2009, 09:38 PM
oDoUoSoKo
song wasnt bad as far as content..i meant more quality wise..and it wasnt bad quality in a good, raw way..it just kinda sounded lazy.
12-25-2009, 09:40 PM
Ghost In The 'Lac
lol i just just noticed I spelled that niggas name "kurput" Ahahahaha!
12-25-2009, 11:26 PM
Hollow Dartz
Let's be for real. Most of ya'll on here are clowns anyways so I wouldn't expect the majority of anyone to like new shit or Hardcore shit. LOL ya'll clowns make me laugh...LOL you're doing it now LOL
12-25-2009, 11:31 PM
theDZA
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
Let's be for real. Most of ya'll on here are clowns anyways so I wouldn't expect the majority of anyone to like new shit or Hardcore shit. LOL ya'll clowns make me laugh...LOL you're doing it now LOL
errrrmmmmm.........LOL???
12-25-2009, 11:41 PM
'
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
Let's be for real. Most of ya'll on here are clowns anyways so I wouldn't expect the majority of anyone to like new shit or Hardcore shit. LOL ya'll clowns make me laugh...LOL you're doing it now LOL
how is OJ da Juiceman AT ALL entertaining in a non condescending way?
+1....?
Quote:
Originally Posted by djskillz
I honestly have no idea why people like OJ Da Juiceman. Gucci Mane at least sounds SEMI intelligent when he wants to and he can spit some dope shit over dope beats. I see NO redeeming qualities in this nigga (OJ da Juiceman that is).
no... neither sound decent in any way. no versatility whatsoever... 1,2 flows & thats the game.
Quote:
Originally Posted by 501 Gold
cuz he still eats da calamari pasta, still got da drunk goin ham, that shit's on slam my nigga.
still doin da aye, okay, ya feel me? still trappin, got trap money, got vvs carats damn near see through cuz, what u know bout dat cuz? fuck wit me dog, aye.
i... can find find any.... coherency....
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
Let's be for real. Most of ya'll on here are clowns anyways so I wouldn't expect the majority of anyone to like new shit or Hardcore shit. LOL ya'll clowns make me laugh...LOL you're doing it now LOL
word up.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Bateman
You thought OB4CL2 was the second coming of the messiah and probably would have committed ritual suicide if Bizzy Bone had been featured somewhere on it.
CL2 is a perfect example of what you're describing. A mediocre and ultimately boring album, which definitely had very few hardcore moments.
Raekwon, at some point after Immobilarity, lost the ability to rhyme on beat, which makes the album cumbersome and awkward.
Say what you want, but the reason you think The Blaqprint is mediocre, is because you can't stomach hardcore shit.
It's ok, everyone already thinks you're softer than Palehorse's doughy face, so don't worry about that.
Just admit, that you can't take it.
then the whit boy says nigga in the next post... laugh out loud...
of course i dont find anything "hardcore" about "HARMONizing", i do like what BTNH bring to the table but they melodic w/a few HC joints...
ergo - Lacey is null & void.
most heads on here have gotten way too content w/ the state of hip hop as its being raped...
-being LYRICAL has become something negative because these fags can't justify why they like their fav rapper atm cause they don't wanna say they're too retarded to understand anything more than 10 syllables per 16.
-grimey beats are "boring" cause they don't have all the bells & whistles & repetitive snare...
most of these niggas grew up thinkin hip hop started with BIG n Pac & "co-sign" posts mentioning safe-emcees like mos def & big l...
i agree with this thread... it gets discouraging comin in the hip-hop shop at times.
12-26-2009, 10:21 AM
Urban_Journalz
Quote:
Originally Posted by yonatan15
Redman > Immortal Technique
Quote:
Originally Posted by 501 Gold
^ in any time period
Please. If it came down to a battle, Redman would walk away with his tail between his legs. Also, as far as being truly down for the people and having never strayed from this vision, Redman is lacking considerably. He makes tight music, true enough, but better than Immortal Technique, that's a matter of opinion, not fact. You can jam out to Redman more than Technique because that's what Red's music is for. Tech's music is for the truly hardcore heads. There's a time and place for both. It's not always about Tech and it's not always about Red. Hell, it's not always about Wu, Nas or even Hip-Hop. I'm listening to Nine Inch Nails as I'm typing this! All I'm saying is, don't let your personal feelings get in the way of what's really going on.
12-26-2009, 10:28 AM
food for thought
Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz
You can say that again. I knew something was fishy when people started bitching about Immortal Technique who, in my opinion, is the nicest to come out of Harlem since the late, great Big L. It's troubling, because it almost seems like some people feel that the commercially accepted shit is essential to thier collection, in order for them not to be viewed as strange people. If something popular catches my ear, I'll listen to it, if not, I drop it. Like that, "LOL Smiley Face" song. By far some of the DUMBEST shit to curse the airwaves, yes? But some people swear by it, because there are no serious or hardcore lyrics/concepts involved at all.
If an emcee, "curses too much", you sometimes have to look at the reason why he's cursing. Some of the things Technique says are very likely to offend a lot of people. He has a good method to his madness though. Unlike Redman who curses simply because he can. Not taking anything away from his work (the earlier work anyway) because he does have skills.
There's just too many pussies listening to Hip-Hop nowadays. Even the underground/true school is questionable.
yea.
that shit is annoying as fuck.
i know a few pepole like that.
niggas is soft like baby ass.
i know about them but i need a mixture of shit on my playlist.
im not trying to hear some emo rapper crying all day.
12-26-2009, 10:32 AM
food for thought
Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
Let's be for real. Most of ya'll on here are clowns anyways so I wouldn't expect the majority of anyone to like new shit or Hardcore shit. LOL ya'll clowns make me laugh...LOL you're doing it now LOL
lol hollow darts hates wu corp posters with all his heart hahahah
shits funny.
lol fool is atleast once a day talking shit about the posters here as a collective lol
12-26-2009, 10:47 AM
rainbow
I mean, i like all types of hip hop, it's just there is incessant complaining here about how hip hop went soft, when new and old artists have been consistently releasing hard material this year.
12-26-2009, 10:56 AM
Ghost In The 'Lac
that 9 outta 10 shit is hard but ive got a hard time being told about hardcore rap from a bunch of Lupe Fiasco and slaughterhouse stans (which is what this place is full of)
A very hard time. As in, stfu lol.
Most of you teenage faggots who are only attracted to Wu tang for nerdy reasons are the problem.
Non of you have the first clue about real hardcore shit, im talking about rap-a-lot, project pat, anything gangsta from the bay or west. This stuff scares you. You look down on it, naively thinking your "above it".
Its the same reason Holocaust gets more love than Killarmy on here, its ful f soft faggots like Dusk and Poetic Wun who think theyre smart because they listen to Lupe faggot Ass Fiasco.
Theyre so comfortable in the fag like existence that they come out and say shit like "Lupe is a greater rapper than 2pac". Its embarrasing.
12-26-2009, 11:04 AM
rainbow
Your stanish behaviour pretty much nullifies anything you have to say on the subject.
I don't know who you're talking to, but seriously, how can you say any of that with a straight face given the magnificent degree to which you ride Bone Thugs.
I like BTNH, but you're on another level of attraction to effeminate black men with that stuff.
It's embarrassing.
12-26-2009, 11:10 AM
oDoUoSoKo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Bateman
Your stanish behaviour pretty much nullifies anything you have to say on the subject.
I don't know who you're talking to, but seriously, how can you say any of that with a straight face given the magnificent degree to which you ride Bone Thugs.
I like BTNH, but you're on another level of attraction to effeminate black men with that stuff.
It's embarrassing.
lmao 9:|6
12-26-2009, 11:15 AM
oDoUoSoKo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacey Bone
Its the same reason Holocaust gets more love than Killarmy on here, its ful f soft faggots like Dusk and Poetic Wun who think theyre smart because they listen to Lupe faggot Ass Fiasco.
Theyre so comfortable in the fag like existence that they come out and say shit like "Lupe is a greater rapper than 2pac". Its embarrasing.
u really overestimate how much i listen to lupe..i barely fuckin do....u have no idea how much music i listen to....i really dont have the time be a stan of any one rapper. and i think im smart cuz my username isnt ALCATRAZ. :list:
12-26-2009, 11:17 AM
Ghost In The 'Lac
^HHhaahah look at this guy backtrack to suit the occasion. puuuuhhhhfetic!!
I would expect no less from a guy who loves Lupe so much.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Sean Bateman
Your stanish behaviour pretty much nullifies anything you have to say on the subject.
I don't know who you're talking to, but seriously, how can you say any of that with a straight face given the magnificent degree to which you ride Bone Thugs.
I like BTNH, but you're on another level of attraction to effeminate black men with that stuff.
It's embarrassing.
Why does me being a "stan" have anything to do with anything?
I thought the discussion was about hardcore hip hop respect in wu corp?
Your copping out. Obviously.
12-26-2009, 11:20 AM
Ghost In The 'Lac
And btw Bone Thugs were doing Horrorcore in their teens before Gravediggaz had released their first record!
12-26-2009, 11:21 AM
oDoUoSoKo
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lacey Bone
^HHhaahah look at this guy backtrack to suit the occasion. puuuuhhhhfetic!!
I would expect no less from a guy who loves Lupe so much.
Why does me being a "stan" have anything to do with anything?
I thought the discussion was about hardcore hip hop respect in wu corp?
Your copping out. Obviously.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
u really overestimate how much i listen to lupe..i barely fuckin do....u have no idea how much music i listen to....i really dont have the time be a stan of any one rapper. and i think im smart cuz my username isnt ALCATRAZ. :list:
fail. you really are the stephen colbert of wu corp...except ur character isnt smart or effective at all.
12-26-2009, 11:24 AM
Ghost In The 'Lac
LOl at Dusk continuing to play himself in hip hop shop.
Dude youve admitted your a faggot, you get sent into emotional outburtsts everytime to someone disagrees with you, now, after spending 90% of your time in HHS dick riding Lupe in EVERY THREAD all of a sudden
