Does God Exist

^ yessir
personally I think they want us to prove there is a mystery being in the sky like they've been taught all these years. Timbs even defined god as something that cannot be detected through reasoning and logic. They don't and can't know better to accept any view of god besides that.
I also think they really don't want god to exist. They can look at Sacred Geometry, molecular entanglement, the Metu Neter....STYLE even had a good thread based on showing god through science not long ago. Do they look up these things? I doubt it.
If they looked up those three things they would see you cannot come to the conclusion of god without reasoning and logic.
Even given all that though, none of them will know god through it.
It is a perception and an experience. Science and words and numbers are not going to give you the experience of knowing god just as there is no amount of reading a virgin could do to know the experience of sex.
Like Urban Journalz said, god has already been proven.

Salaam...

If a person tells me that God "can't be understood", then that person is admitting that he or she is not qualified to tell me about God.

Simple.

God is as Real as I am.

RM

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Originally Posted by Mr. Muhammad

Salaam...

If a person tells me that God "can't be understood", then that person is admitting that he or she is not qualified to tell me about God.

Simple.

God is as Real as I am.

RM

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Troof

Echo this

You guys look ridiculous in this context.

Blue pies cook conspicuous in the projects

a question to all:
how does living matter form from nonliving matter?
lets assume the big bang happened - not questioning how it started or where the matter/energy came from -
and everything started in dead space.....what is the correct combination of dead matter that equals consciousness/ life?

..or has there always been a form of consciousness within ALL things for ALL time?

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Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz

Actually, I'm not saying prove me wrong, because you can't prove me wrong. It's just that simple. I'm saying that if you're going to disagree, bring something a little more solid than, "That can't be proven."

It can't, neither can it be disproven. It is the nature of the concept.

As I recall, I've presented more examples than anyone else thusfar, and I've also noticed that no one, but no one can bring themselves to look at Sacred Geometry, since Holy Scripture makes most people cringe.

How about you show us something?

The concept of God is no theory, that's what you people who worship science don't understand.

We know it's not a theory. It's an absolute that has no proof. People don't "worship" science.

Truth itself superceeds all so-called logic. Especially the logic that man trys to rule by with his limited faculties of understanding and contemplation.

What a convenient way to side step logic and rational thought.

Yet, even IN those limited faculties, the truth can be found. If one chooses to look for it.

Who defines what the truth is? What is the truth we can look for?

I'm bored with making you all look like morons though.

Bahahahahahahaha!

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^^Doesn't understand anything about science.

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Originally Posted by Lucid

a question to all:
how does living matter form from nonliving matter?
lets assume the big bang happened - not questioning how it started or where the matter/energy came from -
and everything started in dead space.....what is the correct combination of dead matter that equals consciousness/ life?

..or has there always been a form of consciousness within ALL things for ALL time?

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What happens if those questions can't be answered? Does this prove god?

Why does the concept of there being nothing scare you so much?

I dont believe in god in the judeo christian concept
or the everyone concept i guess

cause those definitions of God can't possibly be anywhere near plausible.

They give God human characteristics and opinions
which is think is fucking stupid.

If God existed in the context they are trying to describe God in, then there's no way God would have opinions on right and wrong, or get mad and shit cause all the things we do as specified for survival as humans, and God doesn't need to survive and isn't human.


we are a creation of circumstance, and God's circumstance is no where near our. Why would God get mad at something? Does he have a lack of dopemine? plus if he made everything then what the fuck is your problem dude? your just making shit to get pissed off at it?
all telling ppl how to live..why?

thats why i dont believe in God.
but if you define God as 'all that is' then i have no reason not to believe in God cause all this is exists, but i dont think it needs to be prayed to or worshipped cause that's wacky.

It is your understanding as an individual within the framework of the ALL that leads to prayer. There is the physical and that which you can't see nor easily detect. This doesn't mean it isn't out there, afterall, ALL is ALL. Anyways, engergy, vibrations, insight into the ALL, prayer helps with all these things.

God doesn't need you to pray, you need you to pray (speaking to no one in particular----this isn't a holier-than-thou moment)

i like that you need you to pray, makes sense
i do believe it's important to detach yourself from yourself, or your ego, and acknowledge or relish in your oneness with the universe and world around you outside of the superficial.


i normally spend my sundays in total budda mode, i just get in the car, go somewhere random and chill

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Originally Posted by Robert

What happens if those questions can't be answered? Does this prove god?

Why does the concept of there being nothing scare you so much?

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no those questions in themselves do not prove god, but it leads up to it the same way all of my and others previous posts do.
I already stated that I cannot prove god the same way I can't prove the experience of sex to a virgin - I already know god so your concept doesn't scare me - but I am trying my best to open up some doors.

but do you have any ideas about what you just quoted of me?
why does the concept of god scare you so much?

sorry for the length but I find this quite interesting:

http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...h_page1god.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2...h_page2god.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2..._page04god.jpg
http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g2..._page05god.jpg

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Originally Posted by Lucid

But do you have any ideas about what you just quoted of me?

Sure, but I was interested to know the logic behind asking those questions. To me, that is more important then the answers because I know you think you already have them.

why does the concept of god scare you so much?

It doesn't. The concept of there being nothing is far more confronting.

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But do you have any ideas about what you just quoted of me?

Sure, but I was interested to know the logic behind asking those questions. To me, that is more important then the answers because I know you think you already have them.

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I know I can't make you understand where I'm coming from, like I already said, but I'm doing my best to open some doors. Trust me I know VERY WELL the difference between belief and knowledge - and I have knowledge of god. But I'm not entirely sure you know the "definition" of god the same as I see it. Read the pages I posted and let me know what you think...

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why does the concept of god scare you so much?

It doesn't. The concept of there being nothing is far more confronting.

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how do you figure?
the concept of having immutable laws verses nothing to live by seems more confronting to me.
I don't know what your concept of god is - but I do not think that I am going to "heaven" simply by believing in god, nor do I believe in Jesus -
nor am I relying on anything other than myself to save me.
...like I said, just what concept of god do you think I "believe in" in the first place before you are qualified to tell me I have no reason to know it?