"Ask My First Timbs" Q&A thread

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Originally Posted by whitey

everyone does not think like me and thats true. and i think people can believe and think whatever they want. id just hope they would have an open mind and think about why the believe things.

im curious, how did you get into being 5% and thinking allah was the man?

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When I was a child I realized that there was no 'God'. But, I had grown up in a christain family with the idea that god was an omnipotent unseen being in 'heaven'.

However, that never made any sense to me...so I studied and read everything I could.

I got knowledge of self (the blackman is God) when I was 16 through studying the lost - found lessons of the N.O.I.....and then I became Earth (in the Nation of Gods and Earths) when I knowledged Supreme Mathematics at 18 so, I began to teach it to others.

Anyway, it was through study that I learned these things and yes, I am always learning.

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Originally Posted by dollabill

Too Much Shit!!

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right on your face!

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Originally Posted by sweet sista

so unjust but you know when Allah takes something from you, he give you a substitute in other thing.

like the blind's hearing. Allah took his sight but he gave him a strong hearing instead and so other things.

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blinds hearing is too simple of an example... because one cant focus on the sight so he/she focuses more on the sound and trains the hearing.. or smell or feel or taste

i could agree with this only when u dont know when one loses something or everything(especially) i doubt that the one with the loss ultimately or every time has to get a substitute in something else...

to be more clear if you dont "deserve" a substitute or whatever it will be given to the one who does

and that i agree with this statement doesnt mean i belive it because i dont know how to prove it or displace it by evidence...

a question for Timbs:

in a document about evolution they said that humans used same tools (weapons, bowls for water, clothing etc.) and basically lived the same way of life for a very long period of time and that at a certain time in the past (not sure but +/- 50 000 years ago) that changed very fast and people started to "evolve faster" as in their way of life changed "drastically"... so how do you see this happening ? (of course if it did happen) and/or What could have caused this?

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Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon

When I was a child I realized that there was no 'God'. But, I had grown up in a christain family with the idea that god was an omnipotent unseen being in 'heaven'.

However, that never made any sense to me...so I studied and read everything I could.

I got knowledge of self (the blackman is God) when I was 16 through studying the lost - found lessons of the N.O.I.....and then I became Earth (in the Nation of Gods and Earths) when I knowledged Supreme Mathematics at 18 so, I began to teach it to others.

Anyway, it was through study that I learned these things and yes, I am always learning.

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i always respect peoples believes. i respect them even more when i find out they have come about them on their own instead of being indoctrinated into them, weither i agree with what they have to say or not.

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Originally Posted by MoT

a question for Timbs:

in a document about evolution they said that humans used same tools (weapons, bowls for water, clothing etc.) and basically lived the same way of life for a very long period of time and that at a certain time in the past (not sure but +/- 50 000 years ago) that changed very fast and people started to "evolve faster" as in their way of life changed "drastically"... so how do you see this happening ? (of course if it did happen) and/or What could have caused this?

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clearly im not timbs but possibly if i remember correctly from some course heres some knowledge. this happend less than 50,000 years ago but explains some of what your talking about, the discovery of agriculture. which allowed him to settle and have a reliable source of food, and let him concentrate on other things. when man was a nomade and just wandering being a hunter gather, one he could not travel in very large groups because its hard to feed all of the people and two he had to primarily use most of his energy on finding his next meal.

when people settled down and started growing crops they could support larger bands of people, and the human mind started to thrive. he had more free time to do all sorts of things.


not sure if its the answer your looking for, but its part of it.

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Originally Posted by whitey

i always respect peoples believes. i respect them even more when i find out they have come about them on their own instead of being indoctrinated into them, weither i agree with what they have to say or not.

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That's peace...

I respect the dolla!

Is My First Timbs Really 61?

yes.

dolla, dolla, bill ya'll!

anyway...Timbs, wuz up?

[quote=Wu Masta Killer]Is My First Timbs Really 61?[/quote]

he can't be i say he has to be around 28 give or take a few years

No, I Lied that fag can't be that old.

hah dude with a latino heat banner is calling people fag.

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Originally Posted by sweet sista

HEll, i talk to you like an intelligent human being and you insult your mind wit dis!

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I wasnt saying that your agument is insulting me. I was saying that your argument and reasoning that Allah (or whatever deity is popluar at that current time in history) will "take something away" from someone (ie their senses) is insulting to the recognized history of theology and the concept of God.

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i really think that any one who has lost something has something else. Not necessarily physical things but could be spiritual things. not necessarily things one can observe in his own body if he has some illness, but in his family that takes care of him. etc.

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i know that u really think that and want to believe that, but sadly its not the case. Most who are disabled in some form do not earn an extra sense or a heightened sense to compensate for their loss. and as for this "compensation" taking other forms (ie family support, spirituality etc etc) thats a cop out because every normal being has those things already in some shape or form.

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hehehe, you know God gives almost everyone intelligence that’s how he is so just. there are criminals who were intelligent. the point is how you’re going to use that? maybe He is going to let you do whatever you like with your intelligence, so later when you’re going to be aksed by Allah why did you do this? you have no excuse. you were intelligent enough to be aware of all your actions.

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here is where the religionist refues to acknowledge the obvious contradiction. This is formally known as the argument of fate/destiny vs freewill. It is impossible to have free will in a reality that is governed by an omnipotent and omniscient god who already has everyone's lives "pre plotted" out on his mighty chalkboard. Thus by religious logic (and the recognized history of theology), I, myself am nothing but a manifestation of God's divine plan. Are u arguing that it was not in Gods plan for me to be an Athiest? Are u arguing that i somehow deviated from the plan or are u even further arguing that there is no "plan"? Being a believer of a God, you are obligated to pick a stance and ride it out! You cant play both sids of the fence by believing that there is a plan and an all knowing god but at the same time come to an irrational conclusion that we have free will.

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Originally Posted by sweet sista

hehehehe, now i’m gonna give ya what you've been waiting for.


1) is God "perfect" ? yes

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okay, now we are getting somewhere!! so do you agree that perfection means "existing in a state of completeness so that nothing is requisite" (ie existing in a state of perfection , having no needs or wants) ? do u agree ?

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2) is god all merciful ? yes

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okay... now we are getting somewhere!, do u agree that all merciful refers to a punitive concept of " receiving less than what one actually deserves from their action or belief" ??

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3) Is god immutable (meaning he/she/it is "unchanging"?) yes

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okay, so do you agree that an immutable being cannot and will not change his or her stance, belief or aspect of conceptual existence (how u answer is very important!)

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4) Is God all "just" (meaning ultimately he makes sure justice is served)

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okay, do u agree that "all just" refers to a punitive or reward concept of "ensuring individuals receive exactly what they deserve?"

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c’mon, you really gotta impress me!

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lmao