And one for the muslims too...
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.co...a/by_name.html
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And one for the muslims too...
http://www.skepticsannotatedbible.co...a/by_name.html
Yes.....i read.....
That is very true. This can go back to earlier on in this thread when Blackman and I were discussing terms and concepts and how some may overlap or be interpreted different or even incorrectly.Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidSwordz
This is important when translating in different languages. Languages never match up word for word, and different concepts have different properties in what is considered in the definitions. Many of those old scriptures were intended to be worded precisely in that language with the meanings at that time.
For example just a few hundred years ago, Karl Von Klausewitz who was a Prussian military theorist (went on assist in the defeat of Napoleon) wrote a book on war strategy. So of course it gets translated and distorted since all the concepts that he used in the book went deep and complex.
Translation of concepts lead to distortion. One distorted concept on top of another you can still be on track or it can take you waaay off.
Agree 100% sir.
ooh Fist you've shattered my faithQuote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Fist
lol
yes id be happy to do thatQuote:
i would look forward to building with you in the future as it is apparent that our perspectives are much more similar than they are different - but there is some significance in the differences
not sure if i can respond as quick as you but im sure it will be beneficial on either side.
from my understanding, this implies that the Creator created himself, correct me if im wrong.Quote:
but as there is only one, then the technique of 'creating' also suggests creating from self
Now since there isnt any other way for us to find out, apart from going to sources of where something close to this subject is stated, theres no point building on this point, without going to some sources.
as we agreed we understood. The Creator has certain attributes which are reflected as signs in Creation. Yet the Creator is the "Most" of all these attributes.Quote:
and thus
anything created is a manifestation of that which created it
I disagree,Quote:
and
endowed with the same opportunity to be aligned with the same intelligence, the 'creation' can be on the same level of that which created it
in all honesty the human is not capable of surviving for too long without oxygen in this realm that we live in. This makes the human vulnerable, no matter how intelligent.
Also if the Creator can create, he can destroy. Even if we kill someone we think we have the power to destroy, yet ultimately its the blessing of continued life and strength given to us which allows us to perform an action such as the destruction of another being.
Im not but ill check it out.Quote:
are you familiar with fractals?
the way things get get created over and over and over again on different levels?
well everything we see around us is an image projected in our brain. so the images we recieve may be in a filtered form, and not the true actual state of matterQuote:
within the mind of each individual man is the capacity for entire universes (multiverses) the same way we are in the universe that 'the creator' 'made' for us
thats why when some claim "There is no god but GOD" they also claim "There is no reality but the REALITY"
heres some work on the true nature of matter:
http://www.harunyahya.com/matrix02a.php
A muslim believes GOD is above Creation yet closer to us than our jugular vein.Quote:
we may have been created by 'the one thing that said so', but we are also part of 'the one thing that said so'
this goes back to the discussion of Attributes, and the potential for reflecting certain characteristics.Quote:
and have all the properties of 'the one thing that said so'
PEACE BRAH
And why is this your definition of RELIGION?Quote:
Originally Posted by DJMethods
You believe that people made up religion because they are scared of
the ALMIGHTY? Elaborate...
Oh wow I just read this... very interesting indeed....Quote:
Originally Posted by Ultimate Fist
whys it so interesting?Quote:
Originally Posted by MsRzaRecTaH
well Im going to have to read the Q'uran to see if those contradictions are true... so its interesting.. to me.. because it makes me want to dig deeper....
and why do people get closer to GOD when they are faced in a difficult situation.. for example.. aight.. this chick got into a car accident
this past saturday.. shes in critical condition..... and people that know her or seen her are posting bulletins on myspace about
people "praying" for her.. so she can pull thru
why do people do that? why do people want to get closer to "GOD"
when a situation goes wrong or when someone is facing death?
It makes people feel comfort. Same reason why people take pain killers to take away the pain. They believe God will help the person pull through, mentally and emotionally it really helps them. What they dont realize is, why would God help somebody who only notices him when stuff goes "wrong".
I guess sometimes there is nothing people can do except pray in those situations. More hope like mentioned earlier. Perhaps when praying it increases their own awareness and betters their own state of mind to be able to get through those tough situations.
I thought GOD loved everybody ? Do you believe then that GOD punishes people?Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidSwordz
and how are you going to know if the contradictions are true?Quote:
Originally Posted by MsRzaRecTaH
are you going to decide from your own knowledge of Arabic and the Science of Quran study?
Religion is simply:
An institution of the mind