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oh, and as with any wu tang/cilvaringz promise of "be ready" or "it's coming!", i'd still be surprise if any of this stuff actually happens.
i envisage this album being released digitally on some sketchy third party internet music site around the year 2016.
Fuck the museum tour take the 5 mill and run!!
Man that album title is horrible, you gotta change that shit
The Wu: Once Upon A Time In Shaolin is fitting
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Originally Posted by SL33
The Wu: Random Verses Stitched TogetherQuote:
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Originally Posted by ShortyCoffeeStain
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I personally think that the album is going to be hot, because I can't really see Rza signing off on something like this if it wasnt. Plus Ringz seems like a sharp business mind. A little shrewd perhaps, but sharp.
So first you're looking at the album with great anticipation and all is great, asking all kinds of questions. Now you're not going to be able to possess it and now it's random verses thrown together. Lol, seriously, if that makes you feel better, hey...
Only one thing makes me feel better: eating delicious pork chops.
i think deep down we all know THIS is THEEEEEEEE album we've been begging wu to make since "forever". remember, ringz is a fan too........he wants what we want!!!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by ta12113
he had the opportunity & skill to do it. for whatever reason, people hate on ringz....so stupid. he got to do what EVERY single die-hard wu-stan dreamed of.
....and he just made "forever pt.2".
yeah it really blows that its gonna take a lot longer....fuck we've been waiting years. but, you know we will EVENTUALLY get the album. they need to do what they need to do, but NOT letting the masses have this ALSO defeats their purpose.
all i care about is that one last "forever pt.2" swan song from the wu....and this is it....and we WILL get it.
***you dont think ringz and rza are sitting there laughing their asses off every day that we're here crying our asses off that "...ahhhhh i'm never gonna get to hear it. ahhhhh".
they KNOW we'll get it.....and us crying about it is the biggest compliment they could ever get.
I just want to hear it
It's like how YOU build with fans for years and years and then flip the bird with both hands up on this "go spend $50 at a museum for a 1 time listen" bullshit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
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Originally Posted by SKANK HILL
nobody thinks more of this idea than I do, and I think it's fucking retarded
I'm small time here, and I didn't hate all that much, but I still was doubtful that this would ever be completed and drop, and when he was talking about the crazy release I thought dude had smoked one too many dust blunts. So I'll take my L there. Gotta give it up to ringz for actually making this and for getting his money right. Good for you.
BUT this is still befuddling to me as a Wu fan. I'm divided on how I feel about this shit. On the one hand, I don't buy every album (read: I barely buy any albums), so I understand this is a move to get money through your music. But on the other hand, if you're makin music just for money, which is this, why make it... I don't know, it just comes off as real sketchy to me. Hopefully the eventual buyer will a) leak it, or b) get run up on by over-zealous Wu-nerds, who in turn will then leak it.
So these are my thoughts. And here they are posted. For this is the internet.
could also be a type of investment.
buy it for $5 - $10 mil.
then sell it to a label, put it on itunes and/or distribute it independently yourself and make a profit.
with the hype behind it that seems plauseable.
A profit seems plausible? It's hyped but not like that, sheeshQuote:
Originally Posted by main_man
I read the last 10 pages or so but I still have not read if is there still going to be any way for the casual fan to buy this? Or hear it w/o going to that museum exhibit lol
Also is the museum/gallery tour dates set up yet? I live near the NYC/Philly area so I'm sure it will def be exhibited there.
I just want to know what would happen if a rich private collector buys it and locks it away. Then the casual/avg Wu fan will never hear it.
Depends on who buys it, and what they want to do with it. I find the notion that we'll never hear it highly unlikely personally. We'll hear it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Galvatron97
It would be awesome if everyone who went to one of these listening sessions were put on a email list and once Wu-Tang reaches a certain $$$ point, we all get sent a download link for the album. Would make sense considering the whole Wuki approach.
The most likely buyer is going to be one who's going to want to see a profit on their investment, plus they don't have to sell to the highest bidder if someone comes to them with a plan they agree to get some backend along w/ the initial purchase.
If you see this strategy as a bidding war on a non-recoupable album advance sold through the initial exclusivity pushing the story, then you'll realize that probably by 4th qtr 14/2nd qtr 15 there will more than likely be some kind of standard broad release of this album (most likely w/ a digital/streaming exclusive release a limited time beforehand.)
Two still unresolved items...
1. Still not clear on the Post 100 concept/idea
2. What was intended in regards to the "Get your virus scanners ready" comment
Ringz are you able to elaborate on those items...or not yet...or ever
I remember Cilva saying there were investors involved in the making of this album too. I would think they are going to get a large slice of the pie too.
...so its the FANS who would be the "Millionaire" purchaser of this Album, because they bothered to go out and support this idea, their $50 each would be rewarded with a copy of the album.Quote:
Originally Posted by digitalsouljah36
Interesting thought and when you remember that Cilva said something about "...get your virus scans ready..." then maybe the download link after paying to listen to the Album is what Cilva was hinting at maybe?
Cilva, care to comment?
What I would like to know is this: how long has this plan been in the works? And who came up with it? Was it a collaborative effort, or did Ringz envision the whole thing, and then Rza consigned? Because it that interview with vibe it comes off as if Rza is saying that HE'S been working on this album for 6 years, without any mention of Ringz at all. He doesn't say it exactly, but he definitely leads the listener in that direction.
was thinking the same thing..Quote:
Originally Posted by ta12113
Seriously though if it was Rza produced in his prime like if somehow they salvaged the beats from the first flood I could see someone shelling out good money for it but....cilvaringz...does anyone in hip hop even know his beats (no disrespect) but who would pay more than $20 to buy his beats with old rappers way out of their prime on it? It may not even be worth the bbandwidh to illegally download it
Rza could at least throw a copy of The Cure in there. I only been waiting for gotdamn nearly 20years for that shit. I remember seeing it in the source mags where they used to have upcoming albums listed. I used to be so hype back then.
If they didn't know him, which is quite possible, they do now. Co-Signed by Rza, and featured in pretty much every relevant media outlet worldwide. Regardless of how this album turns out, Ringz has put his name out there everywhere..Quote:
Originally Posted by ol dirty abbot
^^so RZA knew about in september and in january he "accepted" that idea yet he heard the album for the first time just 3 or 4 weeks ago
from scluzay (lol)
"The album was produced over a period of six years by Wu Tang producer Cilvaringz under the tutelage of The RZA."
sounds confusing, Cilva posted 3 or 4 weeks ago in "its coming" thread about RZA hearing the album first time, so what "tutelage" that funny site is talking about?
Cilva deleted the topic but he talked about it to rza about 5 or 6 months ago .. that's it
which is when that album was already mixed, again, id like to know what "tutelage" was there or if any?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jammin
The one copy album thing was done before by the french music composer, Jean-Michel Jarre.
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Music_for_Supermarkets
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Originally Posted by molisz
I don't think there's any "tutelage" it's just a marketing move
This is no different than Rza getting Quentin to allow him to use "Tarantino preents" for the man with the iron fists.
^Co-sign
Any dates for when this is appearing in museums Cilva?
Good watchQuote:
Originally Posted by SL33
thx
if the best offer is say $5,000 is it still going to be about the art Cilvaringz? Would you still sell one copy for 5k to respect the art? rza talks in the interview about works of art...don't they only appreciate when the artist dies?...