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Haha, I was thinking that exact same line when the conspiracy theories started coming out :)Quote:
Originally Posted by David Daniel Davis
Yo playaz, can anybody help me out with these joints? I had a quick look for links and didn't come up with anything current.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guarded By Martyrs
"Can't Fight Us Off The Mic" ft. Cappadonna & Holocaust
Holo's imagery>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
The track wit Holo goes hard
http://www.amazon.com/West-Coast-Kil...ast+killa+beez
Good track but the effects they put on Holo's lines (rewinding & intertwining of words) distract me in a verse that is already short. I do get they were probably going for something playfyl. Liking that album by the way! Needs to get some more play this week.Quote:
Originally Posted by LoTec
HAIL HOLOCAUST
yo big dawgs, i remember from my early childhood watching episodes of Dr Who when it just changed from Black and White to colour and i think that now that its 2014 we deserve a black Doctor just like how America got a Black president.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/galle...ry/1024/17.jpg
you dont have to see much to understand how Warcloud would fit right in but check here first for the theme tune:
Doctor Who Themes (All of Them)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VkcHgI_TIYQ
Doctor Who | Day of the Daleks Trailer | Jon Pertwee
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ahTqRSocd78
I mean there's plenty of videos on youtube about the original Dr Who's but we all must admit that the newer series really SUCKS!!
bring on the Warcloud!!!
I guess it helps if i post a link to a Warcloud video so you can see just how these two persons can integrate into one personality, Dr Who! :)
The European Warcloud?:
"Enthusiasm For Glass Is Contagious"
"Unless Class Is Cancelled We Study Deuteronomy"
"A Microphone Tong Has Got To Be Luke Warm"
"The Inability To Escape Memories Of Disrespectability"
"Pandora Means All Gifts To The Earth's Forestry"
Does anyone else ever sit back and just think :
"What The Fuck!!!!....How!?....But?!....Wait....Huh?....Oh!. ...I Get It Now....lol"
Holo was always on another level spitting Silkworm Verses
But this shit....yeah the casual listener ain't gonna hear him.
EXCLUSIVE!!
Third Single ''Graven Image'' Featuring Wu Tang Affiliate Holocaust
Taken From Sinister Stricken's LP Divine Madness
Produced by Amos - The Ancient Prophet
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=znKiQ6xFB0I
Here's an interesting one. "A crocodile learned to jump from tree to tree"
i forget what song it's from, but check out this Fatboy Slim video for his song "Right Here, Right Now" and @ 1:34 you see warclouds rhyme being performed.
is this a coincidence or is it possible Holocaust is tapping in to the Collective Unconscious and retreiving the same data in the form of Idea's as Fatboy Slim!
you decide who's the best
Anybody hear this? Somebody just let me know the other day, I never heard of it before. It's pretty dope, but I can't make up my mind whether or not I think it's Holocaust. Does anybody know for sure or think one way or the other?
Why I think it isn't him:
1. He only has a hand full of mixed forest zone verses...I can't believe that this just popped up on YT one day without being pretty heavily talked about.
2. The quality is good...all the previously unreleased Holo shit that has come out in the last few years was most likely ripped from a tape and sounds like asshole.
3. Some of the rhymes don't sound like shit Holo would say.
Why I think it might be him:
1. Voice sounds pretty much identical...just a bit more high-pitched. Could be a bit earlier than his Black Knights shit, like 96ish.
2. Some of the rhymes sound exactly like shit that Holo would say.
3. Flow is very similar.
4. Beat sounds like something that Holo would have been on a long time ago.
5. I think I want it to be him (I guess it really doesn't matter because it sounds like him and is pretty ill, but whatever)
I have listened to it about 20 times and keep going back and forth. Thoughts?? I'm surprised this track hasn't been mentioned on here (at least not that I could find)...
I don't think this is him.
Some of the transitional type styles are unrecognizable
As in we can't tell which box or category to put this in....
That is, if it was him : This could be some lost Alcatraz track.
But I can't help but remember first hearing this thinking it's him:
7:38
The other thing is this :
I'm under the impression that "Midnight In The Garden Of Good"
Was his debut?
That's the first track I heard of him and I was at school....
And that voice was distinctive so if you're saying before that
When he was Warcloud (again correct me if I'm wrong?)
Then maybe? perhaps? but it just sounds a bit off to me....
I don't think it's him either, I remember years ago someone was impersonating him on tracks, check out the track 'Holocaust 97' I think it was called, the one with the line 'assassinate your brain to make your mind famous' at the end. All his stuff recorded in the 90's was pretty poor sound quality, the quality of this track is too good to be him from back then, plus his voice sounds off slightly.
i have been bumping warcloud 12 hours non stop, HEIL
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Originally Posted by Guarded By Martyrs
The voice on Signature of Solitude sounds a bit higher pitched than Holo. The style reminds me of the Architect, this was the closest comparison I could think of in terms of vocal tone, but I hear more "low end" on Blue Apples:
I also noticed on Signature of Solitude, the lyrics are much less cryptic than anything I've heard from Holo, it's also very "linear" in the structure/the way the images flow from one to another, when you take the Warcloud/Alcatraz and Architect personas into account. But as you said, it may have been previous Midnight in the Garden of Good. Quite the mystery this is.
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Originally Posted by Sky Blue Bally Kid
That's another good point I neglected to mention regarding the poor sound quality of much of the obscure tracks heard from the late 90s, and the very raw/unmixed quality of his Warcloud/Alcatraz works; Signature of Solitude sounds very polished in comparison.
Do you happen to have Holocaust '97? I've never heard that one, and the idea of Holo being impersonated intrigues me.
There was this comment posted on Signature of Solitude:
Danny Vaughan, 6 months ago:
"This is not the Warcloud from the Wu-Tang, it is a European rapper with the name Warcloud. He actually had a few 30 second clips on youtube awhile ago insulting the Wu-Tang Warcloud."
I haven't been able to find anything else on this European Warcloud, which left me torn in its legitimacy. But in addition to the variations I noticed, your post confirms my suspicions. I wonder why he'd bash the real Warcloud/Holo.
Here's how I understand it....
I'm pretty sure Graveyard Shifter said we was originally Warcloud?
Like when he first started rhyming as a kid - Not Holocaust!
"Midnight In The Garden Of Good" was The Architect
Or a "Higher Minded Warcloud" socially acceptable....
Drop jaws rather than scratch heads type style.
So that was to later be watered down and thus you have : Holocaust(Silkworm)
Which I was again under the impression that when this dropped he was 17 years old?
So either he was younger on Bobby's Album or he was younger during "Escapism"
Either way that's scary.
So when the level of skill on display was clear that gave justice -
To releasing Warcloud hence that Freestyle Session :
"Wu-Tang Official Whistle Like A Missle White House With Black Walls Come Correct"
Now....what I'd like to know is The Warcloud Albums:
Did they come after he spat that verse with RZA, Doc Doom & Ghostface?
As in when were they recorded....let alone how you fit in Alcatraz - The Jigsaw_Puzzle
At the moment I only know for sure that The Robot Tank came after The BSBD Album lol
Makes you question :
If he never was a part of Wu-Tang would we have ever even heard Holocaust Verses?
Help anyone?
A difinitive timeline of some sort would be great.
Damn,.that shit was deep. Regardless, I would love to get my hands on some unreleased holo or midnight in the garden of good era warcloud...Quote:
Originally Posted by Guarded By Martyrs
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Why I know it isn't him, I can tell by the pitch, tone and timbre that that is a white guy's voice.Quote:
Originally Posted by hiphopjunky
Lyrically it's too banal and simple anyway, although whoever that is is skilled. Warcloud is genius/master level.
new Warcloud! hell yeahQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Swords
thanks
I isolated Clouds verse:
https://soundcloud.com/user902126989...n-ft-holocaust
I tried to transcribe as well, would love it if one of you with better ears can get the words I missed
Astronauts discover the wreckage of a ship identical to that of their own
on an unexplored planet you were shot down by the Holocaust
the new system outlandish has become
static and frantic
I pickup a shotgun jump up and punch you, shatter the moon
and with a gun blast away the sun
a Shaolin monk, I'm from the West Coast punk
in one of the Alliance's main cities: a failed hunter
I'm a Warlock, my pet: a skeleton-warrior with a Hassan
Ghost western, street Vietnam vet, Thriller
you find yourself in the arms of a killer
but what kind of army would linger in such a place?
the king from the Vegas ring
chiller, bird killer
spirits of warriors awaken from the dead
weapon miller from ruins of Greek pillars
in rhymes, please wait a moment and try again later
the orphan maker, the spirit through your abdomen impaler
territory control, we lick off shots from the riffle
schools need priests; of the Bible
dressed like a *****solider from 1864
dire, camp your entire
my rap empire *** out of your satire
and we stand Eiffel
just down the corridor, satire(?)
the ceiling collapse and cave-in
I catch fire
Tank really seems to be into his World of Warcraft references lately
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Astronauts Discover The Wreckage Of A Ship Identical To That Of Their Own!
On An Unexplored Planet : You Were Shot Down By The Holocaust
The News System Outlandish Has Become....
Staticing Frantic : I Pick Up A Shotgun Jump Up And Punch You
....Shatter The Moon And With A Gun : Blast Away The Sun!
A Shaolin Monk....I'm From The West Coast Punk
In One Of The Alliance's Main Cities : A Fell Hunter
I'm A Warlock My Pet : A Skeleton Warrior Within A Psalm?
Ghost Western - Street Vietnam Vet : Thriller
You Find Yourself In The Arms Of A Killer....
But What Kind Of Army Would Linger In Such A Place?
The King From The Vegas Ring - Chiller - Bird Killer....
Spirits Of Warriors Awaken From The Dead Weapon Miller
From Ruins Of Greek Pillars - And Rise! Please!?!
Wait A Moment & Try Again Later The Orphan Maker
The Spirit Through Your Abdomen Impaler....
Territory Control : We Lick Off Shots For The Riffle
Schooled Deep Priests Of The Bible!
Dressed Like A Continental Solider From 1864 Dier
Camp You're Retired My Rap Empire Grews Out Of Your Satire
And We Stand : Eiffel!
Just Down The Corridor (I) Sat Tire
The Ceiling Collapse And Cave In
I Catch Fire!
Ah, I think you are right about this one, good ear.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guarded By Martyrs
Another good catch. Here is Tank doing a full on World of Warcraft reference, according to the WowWiki "The Felhunter is the fourth pet available to a warlock after a succubus." http://www.wowwiki.com/FelhunterQuote:
Originally Posted by Guarded By Martyrs
I even think this line is related to WoW:
based on the error message you get when you attempt to log on and their servers are down. Likewise "Territory control" could be related to the PvP aspects of the game where "Alliance" and "Horde" sides battle for control of areas in the game which switch to the control of which ever side is winning.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guarded By Martyrs
http://www.wowwiki.com/Contested_territory
the 1864 year reference immediately makes me think this a American Civil War Reference (1861-1865) I also suspect now the "Dier" at the end maybe a name, googling Civil War, continental solider does bring up some references to a notable "Dyer" http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Frederick_H._DyerQuote:
Originally Posted by Guarded By Martyrs
I could be reaching with that one.
After re-listening I'm starting to the think the "tire" or Tyre here might be a proper name as well, as in a person by that name was sat down just down the corridor. It could just as well be a tire was in a hallway too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Guarded By Martyrs
Thanks for the lyric help in any case. Whole world of stuff to take out of Cloud's lyrics. I swear to God, today in my math class the teacher started going on about how Archimedes first invented catapults to help stop advancing Roman soldiers and then went on to mention how he used a giant magnifying glass sat on a hill to focus the sun on the wooden Roman ships to make them catch on fire. aka "Archimedes used solar power to defeat the Romans" I couldn't stop smiling.
lol
No problem.
The "Sat Tire" line is almost vintage Holo
What you're saying went through my mind as well :
As if he was a comrade or something of one of Holo's past lives that he remembers lol.
Other thing that came to mind was him just weary from what everything he just said
Almost "Overheating The Robot Tank's System" so to speak
And then behold....he did over do it therfor he catches fire.
Same thing here on the last verse of "River Church"
"Leonardo Da Vinci....Developed....An Early....Fire-Arm"
You can really hear he is exaggerating being tired from what he just recited.
I think you might be right though.
Great work with what you found especially the Warcraft elements.
ANybody have any new news?
That guy on the Wake Up Show freestyle is some rapper called E-Rule or something like that. I was talking to Lotec about it a while ago. His voice does sound like Holocaust from around that time period though.
http://s8.postimg.org/rmt3vz10x/Tank_v_Tank.jpg
(click for full-size)
hehe big dawgz
have y'all heard my ghost pirates mixtape?
Does anyone have an MP3 of the track "Holocaust '97"?
**Opens Vault**
Finally found it, here you go...Quote:
Originally Posted by Young Gun
https://www.sendspace.com/file/bbemqn
ROBOT TANKED FANS
http://i.imgur.com/KbiG5xl.png
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"You Are Here To Document:
"The Stressful Reality Of Military Life During War Time
I Am The Holocaust : A Burnt Offering On The Cliff - The Fatal Risk....
To Leave You None To Remain The Black Hole's Gravity Decimates Your Escaping Ships"
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The FULL version of Purple Hearts has FINALLY surfaced, ya'll!!!