there was also some new study that said kids who got beat were more likely to have unprotected sex ... not sure how they likened the two, but yeah .... i got beat as a kid and i fuckin hate condoms lololol
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there was also some new study that said kids who got beat were more likely to have unprotected sex ... not sure how they likened the two, but yeah .... i got beat as a kid and i fuckin hate condoms lololol
thats alot of words, you really like to express opinion..you're like the new tsa,props
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Lol, I was doing the long postings long before I came to WuCorp. I be mad opinionated on my grizzy.
What do you suggest I do about it? Change my name to TBHB? Paint my skin in technicolor? Get nostril extensions put in?
Shut up faggot, all y'all monkey faced last king of scottland kilt wearing mother fuckers
their is a big diffrence between disciplining your kids and beating them, there not the same thing, if you beat your kids there gonna grow to dislike you and harden to you, if you don't discipline your kids, there most probably gonna become spoilt, disrespectful to you and uncontrollableQuote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
you need discipline and love at the same time, show them love, but discipline them when there naughty and by this i mean, theirs nuthin wrong wit smacking them wit your hand on parts of the body that won't hurt that much, not no using objects, shoes, bamboo stick, belts(damn, memories of my younger days, ha ha, crazy) and so on and so on, thats beating, you get what i'm saying
if my mum didn't discipline me but wit love too, the stick and the carrot, i would have come out a lot worse in my teens, trust me on that, i loved my mum to death, i still do, for life, but i also feared her up until my mid teens, even though she stopped physically disciplining me after i started high school, in my mind, if i got caught fucking up, i thought i would get it, even though, i was physically stronger than her and i now know that wouldn't have popped off, that fear turned to respect in my teens, discipline and love, you need both, even now, i still don't swear(curse) in front of her, that discipline and love breeding respect and i appreciate all of that discipline now, it was to show you right from wrong because of love for me, you see what i'm saying
and you have to start from early, you can't start when there too old ours there just fight back or sumthin or have some sort of backlash to you or sumthin, true stories
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Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy
yup
OK so lets use your example. McDonalds, Walmarts and all other big label chains. First we have to consider how many of these chain stores are in an area heavily populated by "Ignorant" blacks. If all of the people who are being considered ignorant stopped doing what they were doing, would they all be elligable for a job? No they would not, I do not think it would come close helping out those. Also, this may just be a Cali thing, but I've never seen a Walmart in a black neighborhood. I haven't even seen a target for that matter. but once again, min wage barely covers shit for some. I'm talking people who dont buy shit for themselves just bills, rent and food. there staring at a notice saying there going to get evicted, there granma's dieing, they got 2 kids, both hungry, they are in an area with little to no positive reinforcement. I'm lucky to not be in that situation but if I was I would damn sure look for other ways to get paper to take care of mine and that shit is a very real scenario. I dont think excuses breeds negativity. I think cats were put in a negative situation and just continue to express ourselves. Some see it as negativity others see it as survival.
If somebody is at a low income level where it is hard to even support themselves, they should be smart enough not to be having kids anyway. Though, some do have a bunch of kids to exploit the system so they don't have to work at all(but that's besides the point). Around here, there are shopping centers close by to low income areas where people can easily walk or take the bus to go there for work. If a person is struggling to make it on their own, they could apply for some type of low income housing/rental assistance. Several of those housing assistance places could be in a bad neighborhood, but I'm sure there are ones that are in a decent or half decent place, which would be preferable.
me myself being a fatty, i pulled dimes in my time, its all about the mind power and the gift of gab
So is it alright to live an entire life in poverty? Just work min. wage for life than die? If they continue at that job chances for them to get out of a hood is slim to none. Maybe selling drugs is there way to achieve the American Dream. I'm not condoning the selling of drugs, nor do I think anyone should do it, but I do see why some people do it is all I'm saying.
when i step inside kiss the ring...
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^ you forgot to mention the force of gravity.
No one is laughing...
my mom flung an orange at me from the fruit basket once when i called her an idiot when i was young, for not cooking anything *she doesnt cook good at all* and was hungry that day like my two other bros, and once she slapped hot curry and rice into my face for not cleaning my room infront of my dad 5 years ago, all my beatings etc were outta my moms dumbassness...most of em but i relize the point of beat kids to an extent, they grow up to have a love/hate relationship which i find more conforting somehow O.o
check two u soundin real ignorant dog !! readin ur posts is like reading a post at stormfront, real talk
A lot of undercovers, so I wouldn't be surprised. The fact that people like CharlesJones chooses to have this discussion in a WU-TANG FORUM is very telling. Glad to see I'm not the only one not fooled.Quote:
Originally Posted by ALCATRAZ
this.Quote:
Originally Posted by YungSunny
nigga if u was my son id buy u a new car for saying this shit son.
u are way beyond ur years.
thats the problem with kids nowadays.. be a parent first and a friend second. if i fucked up when i was a kid. that was my ass and i must say i turned out okay.
now sure my moms and pops did not beat my ass cus my eyes was open or anything like that. but whe i deserved it i got it. any other time id come home to an empty ass room with all my games and cds and shit in a pawn shop. there are other ways but kids nowaday need they asses kicked. PERIOD......
haha ya. I was referring to fists of fury whilst "beating" me, I WAS gonna say no objects but i just remembered my moms used to beat me with a wooden spoon. Damn Ghost u just took me back..Quote:
Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED
its better than selling drugs or commiting crimes.Quote:
Originally Posted by abanks47
peace be with you !
my mom was smooth with that shit though. she would be like"this is gonna hurt me more then it hurts you" before she smacked my with this board that had a handle and holes drilled in it. lol yea right. i dont know how she did it...actually i think shed be like ill give you 3 smacks but if u run and i got to catch you its 5. so she had me willingly grab the side of the couch to recieve my beating lol. that shit hurt to the holes in it wre no joke. my ass would be freckeled with welt marks lol
Are you sure about that? if you dont have a moral conscience its not. If you have to choose between living comfortably and struggling, with the only thing holding you back is your "moral", especially when everyone else is eating good, I'm pretty sure most would do the "wrong" thing.
Isn't stormfront a racist site? So by me trying to spread positivity and hope, I'm acting racist? lolQuote:
Originally Posted by ALCATRAZ
lol at some of these knuckleheads.
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Originally Posted by hide1998
ain't nothing wrong with few slaps in the early childhood. it's thos social services and NGO's that made it bad.
i'm out
No, I wasn't referring to living an entire life in poverty. Only work the mininum wage thing until something better comes along in the future. Work your way up to a manager at the store or fast food place if you have to. Get an education. Do a trade. There are various possibilites. Postive education creates constant elevation. Selling drugs will get you onto an episode of 'The First 48', that's about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by abanks47
But thats just it. A lot of people do not see better shit in the future. All they see is that MCDs shit. Who the fuck wants that? A lot of dudes see there parents struggling working 2,3,4 shitty jobs. They see what they have in store for there future and say fuck it, I'm hungry now. If no one wants to help fuck it I'm going to take it & although I dont like it and it hurts to see, I feel its justified. Question; say you're a teen, impressionable 14yr old. You see a bummy ass kid glasses, and whack clothes and then you see a cat nice clothes, girls, cars all that shit. You can hang out with either of these kids. Who the fuck would you want to kick it with?
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Originally Posted by James Crow ESQ
I was discussing this the other day with some associates, there should seriously be some kind of parenthood test.
Like, obviously they thought i was nuts and that impinging on people's liberty like that was despicable, but i still stand by it.
Certain people should be neutered, plain and simple.
Above is a prime example.
This guy could probably pass the test.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheBoarzHeadBoy
I agree and disagree with you. I understand that people need to survive and take care of their love ones, I do. I also understand that adults who are 30-40 work at McDoanlds to support their children and the families because that's all they know. I agree with you on that part.Quote:
Originally Posted by abanks47
I disagree at the fact that people makes ignorant and stupid LIFE CHANGING choices so they can eat that day instead of thinking positive in the future like Check Two stated. Yes, living in the ghetto is hard. People who live there see things and go through things that suburban people can't even fathom. I know people (mainly females) who see fast food joints as their ONLY hope during 2003-now and also college. The black men sell drugs because they feel that min. wage and a college education isn't go to help them at all because they want the money NOW. They think if they go through with this, they'll just be bums and no one woman would want to be with them. But isn't that the sacrifice? So, they sell drugs as a result, which is pretty ignorant, in my opinion. BUT most people do it so their families can eat and have a roof over their heads.
You're saying that one who's struggling should TRY to be friends with someone who has money and just fake it because he has money? You can't be serious. The kid with whack clothes and glasses is thinking about his future and the kid who has the girls, money and cars isn't because either he's selling drugs or his parents are loaded. I choose to hang out with the smart kid for OBVIOUS reasons.Quote:
Originally Posted by abanks47
When I was 16, I had a job at a meat store and I was receiving a Social Security check each month due to my father passing away when I was three years of age, and I was going to high school and a Vocational Technical School in Detroit, MI taking Welding and Cutting (good trade. I still know a lot.) at the same time. I was and still am a loner. I saw girls hanging around the boys who had the money and I felt alone and embarrassed because I didn't wear the expensive clothes those boys wore, the cars, talking the slang, or the girls that they attracted. I couldn't afford Jordans. I couldn't afford to go to the malls and spend $500 on clothes and shoes so I could attract attention from people who would ONLY want me for my money and the age of 16. I knew better than that.
At 16, I wasn't focusing on popularity and Jordans. I was thinking about my future and my dreams. I was thinking about college. Yes, I was a bum but I had dreams to be something more than staying at home with a mother who I was taking care of at 16. I was thinking about how I could get out of Detroit, MI and move my family and I to a better place. The girls, Jordans, name brand clothes and cars weren't relevant at that time for me. But since I'm a black man, people always told me that I wasn't going to be anything, including my family members.
Well, now, I'm in college, about to graduate in the Spring/Summer of 2010 majoring in Geology (pretty much finished, just my math courses to go). I live on my own, I have MONEY in both my checking and savings accounts, a job, etc.
People choose who they want to be in life. You can't blame it on the "Man" and you can't point the finger at God for your troubled life. We are who we choose to be and that's a fact. Yes, it's hard but doable.
Think long-term, not short-term.
beating children is wrong.
nothing good comes out of it.
and people like TSA and ghostlaced, who need to have an opinion for everything, need to think before they speak. both of you are still kids, and don't have kids.
Check Two and Ironman speaking the truth. Thanks you two for agreeing with me. Look i know that life is hard in the ghetto for blacks but people make choices to do what they wanna do to get money. Blacks in the hood know that selling drugs is wrong and robbing banks is wrong but they do it anyway to get money because they're lazy and they wanna make that fast cash instead of working at a job. Like Check Two said, if you have to start out working at a McDonald's or Walmart, then you do that until you can move on to a better paying job. You can't get a job when you got a criminal record because jobs are skeptical about hiring a criminal. I think that criminals deserve a 2nd chance but most jobs won't give them a 2nd chance and then they end up going back to doing illegal stuff to get money because they can't get a job. So the point is even if you're tired of being poor and you don't wanna work for a low salary because you want fast money, there's no future in doing illegal stuff to get money because you end up in prison or dead. You've seen what happens to criminals when you watch the news and watch movies like Scarface, The Godfather, Heat, Casino, GoodFellas, Get Rich Or Die Tryin, Menace II Society, New Jack City. I don't wanna work for a low salary either but i'd rather do that until i can find a better job than to be sitting in a prison cell or in the cemetary.
Ironman, much respect for getting what you got and working hard for it. I apologize if my generalizations offended. I still do think people make those life altering decisions just to eat. I have an uncle whose 40 now. Last year he had no money for dinner or christmas gifts. He went and sold weed and crack for a few weeks to give his fam what they wanted and deserved and I respect him for it. It goes both ways because I'm sure the people he was slanging to didn't have a happy holidays but thats another topic. Charles Jones I still highly disagree with you homie. I would not call these people lazy, by no means. You raise an interesting point, what do you do with those who want to turn over a new leaf? just tell them to keep trying things'll get better? World dont run on feelings, it runs on money unfortunately. You said it yourself, and I've seen it first hand at jobs, people hate on felons. Are they just "ignant" and lazy and BLACK?
Thats not even an argument. I've heard one side say all these things about their personal life and history of being hit, and arguments for it and the effects is has. And then people against it say, 'it's wrong'. There's nothing inherently wrong in beating a child. You need to have good reasons for it. To take away the right of good parents to hit their child is presumptuous and arrogant.
I think people buy into the bullshit of the 'innocence and fragility' of children. If you treat them like this you treat them not as people, but as your own sentimental fantasy object (Michael Jackson). Beating has been used as disciplinary measure for as long humanity has been around, to make a blanket statement that its always wrong to beat them is just ignorant and intellectually irresponsible.
And yes, in a perfect world parenthood would be privilege, not a right.
I think Shyne makes many good points throughout this song.
Here's the nitty gritty as i see it.
are black ppl lazier then need be, yes, but should they be otherwise, only if they're REALLY exceptional, which most of us white or black aren't.
Im not lazy, but i know if i loose a job it will take around 5-7 months to find another one cause im black with no criminal record
once i find that job my co-workers will work like hell to make sure i loose it, i wont be trusted, and supervisors at times can be really racist.
When i do things wrong like other employees, it will never be overlooked or pardoned,
If i call in sick im being lazy, when others do it they need a day off.
look at Obama's presidency. There's ppl in office working to make sure it fails and its a living hell, so what makes you think its different for any other black person getting a job. we're not obama and this presidency has really shined light on how psychotic and hateful white ppl can be. imagine working with them.
anyways, in the end the only black ppl that survive are the cream of the crop or really exceptional ppl, and that isn't the majority of any population.
your only alternative is to go through life with ppl kicking dirt in your face or sell crack.
if i was a black american i would seriously look into the crack option because nothing is worst then working for or with white ppl. im african and plan on leaving here soon, so i dont have to sell crack.
you can decieve yourself and go to college but they don't even hire black pilots, wtf is going to make them hire a black engineer? or a black architect expecially if you go through college learning black ppl are stupider then white ppl, coupled with the other racist ideas outside society has for you to collect, none of them favorable for black ppl. I've began to realize there's almost no point in going to college if you're black other then just to learn, cause your still not going to get hired for shit, i happened to my parents, it'll happen to anyone.
anyways yeah, just sell crack, if you go to jail fuck it, you'll go to jail anyways.
yeah it seems white people only want blacks to succeed in non serious career`s ...like a black man can only be an enteratiner or a basket baller, footballer or a singer...when it comes to the serious shit the white man shows his true colors like you said with obama`s presidancy..just look how they did colin powell.Quote:
Originally Posted by TSA
peace
Really TSA? Hmmm.... I have a white boss and he's the coolest ever. I'm just a HARD worker. I work with whites and they respect me for WHO I AM.Quote:
Originally Posted by TSA
Maybe it's different with me versus other black people.
Maybe you should just jump off a bridge if you feel that black people aren't shit, TSA. Thanks for hating yourself.
Once again, CharlesJones feels the need to focus on blacks in this discussion as if only blacks sell/use drugs (which clearly isn't true). How about how the drugs got into communities in the first place? Let me give you a hint, black people didn't bring them there. All I'm saying is that people (notice how I said PEOPLE and not [insert race] people) should do what they can to survive as long as it doesn't interfere in the lives of others. I'm not condoning drug abuse and its destructiveness, just making the point that it's important to look at more than the street corners for this issue. Times are rough in America in general, but they're even rougher if you're a black. It has been that way since the existence of America. Now, it might make some of you personally feel better to chalk it up to, "Meh, that's just because black people, as a whole, or just BAD, period," as some of these posts clearly hint at. But to look at one piece of the puzzle, and not examining how the pieces got there to begin with is just insulting to all thinkers. Here's a fun fact, the vast majority of people living in the ghetto are law abiding hard-working people. Let that simmer in your brains for a moment.
Don't point fingers until you look at the complete picture. This discussion is not for school kids who haven't done more than just see things (as posts in this thread suggest). And yes, open a book or two not authorized by your public school (as the American public school systems have a tendency to only allow one version of history).
^^Agreed 100%. Well put.
I'd also like to clarify that I do not feel that selling drugs is our destiny, we have accomplished so much and that is actually one of the main reasons why I posted in this thread. It seems like people love to highlight our negatives and never our positives.
Society has you cunts buying into the whole "innocence of children" bullshit.
Smarten the fuck up and start fucking some kids while you're at it.
No game. Hmmmm.....Quote:
Originally Posted by KaramelSundae
She's not black, Charles.Quote:
Originally Posted by CharlesJones
True. If you're a black male thug, that's what get's their attention.Quote:
Originally Posted by check two
Getting approached by a fat ugly white chick is VERY depressing.