"Ask My First Timbs" Q&A thread

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

okay, now we are getting somewhere!! so do you agree that perfection means "existing in a state of completeness so that nothing is requisite" (ie existing in a state of perfection , having no needs or wants) ? do u agree ?

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i hope we do, and yes i believe in dat..

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

okay... now we are getting somewhere!, do u agree that all merciful refers to a punitive concept of " receiving less than what one actually deserves from their action or belief" ??

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He is merciful, He punishes for different reasons. Some we know and some we don't. However, in all cases there is mercy.

some of the things that show his mercy are when he punsihes you less than what you deserve for what you have done. two, he is punishing you as a test and giving you the chance to strengthen your faith or to find it which will make you closer to him cuz he loves you. three, he puts you in tough situations cuz he is saving you something else for later -even here that doesn't mean all he does is givin' ya the hard time but he rotates the situations sometimes good sometimes not and even in bad situations there is mercy as a matter of fact, in bad situations his mercy greater than when you're in a good situation cuz you know then he is doing that for your own sake- four, other reasons i do not know but i trust him as a creator to me, he won't hurt me if i am truthful.

that's about his mercy in the bad times. so yes he is merciful according to that.

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

okay, so do you agree that an immutable being cannot and will not change his or her stance, belief or aspect of conceptual existence (how u answer is very important!)

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He is immutable as he does not change his ways when he treats goods and bads. He gives each what they deserve. He is immutable and doesn't change his stance.

example, you're bad you'll be punished. you're good you'll be rewarded. this is the imutable judge of his and that's how he is imutable in his stances. it's us who change so always there is an imuatable stance for us whichever path we take. i hope you understand what i'm tryin' 2 say. that's for his stance!

as for him being imutable in his existence,
As a muslim i know there are 99 names referred to God and actually they are characteristics. two of them are, THE FIRST and THE LAST. now some might think i'm contradicting maself cuz these two characteristics are contraries. It's how one's understanding explain it. To god they don't contradict but they clarify ta us.

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THE FIRST means that he was the first to be there in existence. THE LAST means that he is willing to be the last and after we all and everything die. see, it ain't contradiction. it's misunderstanding from oua part!! so his that leads to his third name and Characteristic THE EVERLASTING.

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

okay, do u agree that "all just" refers to a punitive or reward concept of "ensuring individuals receive exactly what they deserve?"

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i believe that “ALL JUST” means that when Allah judges, he judges justly. And gives everyone what they deserve. When he judges.

However, Not everyone gets what they deserve in this life with humans' judges. We can see obviously that a lot of times the bad guys are happy and rich when the good ones are sad and living in hell. Hardships show the truthfulness in each one and make you see who is your friend and who is not. Hardships make people remember the importance of helping each other.

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

lmao

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are you going to impress me with your answers or what ?! cuz so far ......na ah not impressed...

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

peace

there are several reasons for this.. This is formally known as the homo sapien cultural explosion and can be explained very easily. In a nutshell:

prior to the harnessing of certain aspects of reality, humans lived a relatively short life span. This is very important because with a short life span come certain things and with a longer life span come other things!

prior to the harnessing of fire and to the birth of agriculture, man had relatively short life spans (if u made it to about 25 years, u were lucky and an "elder")

Once fire and agriculture "jumped off", humans now lived alot longer. With longer life spans comes population growth. with larger populations and longer life spans, comes a focus shift! meaning a shift from a primary focus being on pure survival, to a more cultural social aspect. EVEN more importantly, with larger populations and longer life spans comes the ability to successfully gain more real world spacial and technical know how about the world u live in and objects that it contains!

Even more importantly, with a longer life span, comes the abiliy to properly pass on cultural knowledge to the next generation before you die!

Its alot more complicated than this, (and there are indeed other factors) but u get the idea.... human evolution (technological expansion and cultural evolution) are highly indebted to the birth of agriculture and the harnessing of fire)...

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thank you! very much that is exactly what i needed as a base for more findings...

and still the "jump off" is that one piece that i would have to witness to fully understand it..

peace

i did not neglect these questions.. (especially "sweet sista's too) be back in a few hours...

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Assuming that God is real and that He has an interest in testing faith. What would be the point in testing this faith if God's existence could be definetly proven?

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wats good timz

Could u please summerise the threory of evolution. I dont knw if u remeber a thread made in KTL a lil while back called, your religon or your beliefs where ppl posted their religon/ beliefs. what did u post or what would u post???

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for this one, its hard to just summarize evolution like that.. its way to complicated.. check out my website on evolution for a brief understanding of it.

www.acalltosanity.com/evolutioneasilyexplained.html

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Originally Posted by soul controller

peace Tims
can u please expound on this.

ill post my views / more Q's
when u respond

peace sir

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Originally Posted by cd

I'll throw one out there for you Timbs.

From an evolutionary standpoint, what do you think the relationship is between advancing technology and natural survival characteristics are? There is evidence that due to technological advances in science, medicine, etc that people live longer and are bigger and stronger than previous generations. If you look at Medieval knights, who were the big warriors of their day, they didn't even measure up to 6 feet. Athletes are bigger and stronger than from a generation ago. So on the surface it may look like these advances are strengthening the species.

However if you look at it from another angle, it seems humans have grown too dependent relying on outside sources. Medicines are tremendously overused and people really keep their immune systems weak when they don't let it naturally fight off sickness. Technology has become such that people do not need or want to do as much physical activity as they used to(manual labor or just being active outside) and sit stagnated inside watching hours of images on TVs or computers. We are insulated and not exposed to most of the hardships of nature. People do not use nearly as much mental capacity as they used to. A good memory and quick cognitive abilities used to be the difference between life or death. Now people rely heavily on calculators to do simple math and are too lazy to even remember phone #'s anymore bc of speedial. This seems to be leading to the dulling of a lot of intellects.

So although it seems that on the surface extreme advances in technology would make a species stronger, is this just surperficial and actually harmful to human beings' natural survival abilities? Are we cutting ourselves off from nature and is this relying on technology rather than our minds and bodies making the species actually naturally weaker?

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Brother "Timbs,"

How can I begin to trace my lineage? I want to take it back to Afrika if all possible. I'm going to chance my name but I want to be able to trace my blood back as far as possible first. I know that on my mother's side I'm almost all Cherokee. I have an Aunt that has a massive amount of info but I have to head out to the country to hit her up. I'm going to stop procrastinating and build with my Elders. Anyway, help me out please?

Peace

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Originally Posted by blackwisdom

Brother "Timbs,"

How can I begin to trace my lineage? I want to take it back to Afrika if all possible. I'm going to chance my name but I want to be able to trace my blood back as far as possible first. I know that on my mother's side I'm almost all Cherokee. I have an Aunt that has a massive amount of info but I have to head out to the country to hit her up. I'm going to stop procrastinating and build with my Elders. Anyway, help me out please?

Peace

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the easiest way is to locate a "local" dna testing laboratory and find out if they do "matrilineal mitochondrial dna mutation analysis"

sounds mouthy but all it is is a genetic trace of your x chrmosomal lineage (your mothers line) via analysis of changes in mitochondrial mutations from generation to generation.

that would solve the mystery very easily (but it gets rather expensive) sometime upward of 10,000. because in adition to u giving a dna sample via hair or buccal swab (cheek swab), they will also have the task of accessing the bioinformatic database of the people in the region u think u might have distant relatives in.

i do it all the time,, but unfortunately on rodents only :9

although if ur interested i bet u would be greatly intrigued to trace your matrilineal lineage across the species line (because u do have one!)

Good lookin, Timbs. The closest that I know of is in DC. I'll hold that info in my back pocket until I can use it. Appreciate it.

Peace

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

thats a very bold baseless uninformed statement! (but very common in religionist beliefs)

I am not a non believer because I am ignorant of the believer or concept of one.. if anything, i am at a supreme advantage of making a rational decision having objectively formally studied almost every religion on the planet from the oldest formal religion to the newest new age philosophy u prolly havent heard of yet.

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The ignorance i was pointing at wasn't the ignorance of an illiterate. Some people have a degree and they are ignorant about specific things -Don't take it personally- we all are lack of knowledge in somethings. There isn't someone who knows everything about everything. And if there is someone i would call him “GOD”.

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

as for depression. thats another long standing misconception of the atheist. For some strange reason, religionists (the fanatical ones) would love for it to be the case that a person becomes a non believer because they are depressed or lacking something in life.. this honestly just simply isnt the case at all. I am one of the most happy, optimistic and easy going people you would ever meet. there is not a depressed nerve in my body (and if there was, i would know that rationally it is merely a lack of serotonin levels), so it would not be cause for concern. (let alone a reason to "not believe".... )

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Isn't that serotonin you're talking about is something effected by the psychological feelings of the humans by any chance? i mean sometimes, people get depressed when they see that all they have is rough days and they think god ain't helping them so they conclude that it's easier for them to think that there is no god.

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

as for arrogance.. again.. this claim is baseless. Do not confuse arrogance with confidence based on a secure knowledge and critical thinking ability. And even more importantly, the rational atheist is the furthest thing from "arrogant".. this is so because we readily admit that we dont know everything. (in actuality there is so much that is unknown, hence the reason why most atheists have an affinity to science in pursuit of natural curiosity!!)) and even further, we know and understand that every rational claim has the potential to be completely false! how is this arrogant? its the exact opposite of the philosophy of religion and what arrogance means!

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Humph, i didn't mean you're being an arrogant but i was listing what i think some of the reasons for some atheists to believe in what they believe in. they don't want to be objective but they tend to be unique at anything and the truth doesn't matter ta them.

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

the philosophy of religion is a pure example of the height of man's arrogance! (a belief that we were made in the image of a divine creator is about the most arrogant and chauvanistic thing ive ever heard).. and like i said.. my argument and everythging i believe could be totally false... all it would take to do this is provide evidence showing its false (evidence of a supernatural realm, evidence that all creatures do not have common ancestry etc..) if u want to combat atheism and thos who dont beleive, thats all u would have to do!.. however in contrast u state on several occaisions that u KNOW you are right and u get frustrated when u are trying to HELP people see the RIGHT way.... lmao at the arrogance and irrationality!.. i ask u... what would it take to potentially falsify your claim and beliefs? (any rational logical claim has the ability to be falsified).. what would it take for yours??

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easy on me, man!
and honestly arrogant people make me sick so i can't be one of them. I never claimed i know everything and all that but the thing i'm positive about 100% is that there is ONE GOD for the sake of all those who suffered, suffers and our own sake. Other than that i consider the possibility that i'm wrong about any other thing in life. the usual things and the decisions that made by myself or other humans, it's possible that they're wrong. And yeah you're right I sure get frustrated cuz i kinda care and 4 me it's more like talking to your little brutha who just doesn't listen.

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

i ask u... what would it take to potentially falsify your claim and beliefs? (any rational logical claim has the ability to be falsified).. what would it take for yours??

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if you're talking about my beliefs as in “principles and opinions” in life in general, it's possible that some of them are wrong or lack of full awareness. but the concept of GOd isn't my claim. it's the truth.

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Originally Posted by sweet sista

Isn't that serotonin you're talking about is something effected by the psychological feelings of the humans by any chance? i mean sometimes, people get depressed when they see that all they have is rough days and they think god ain't helping them so they conclude that it's easier for them to think that there is no god.

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religion is the opiate of the people.

yeah yeah i know that uuh umm
MARXISM??

Whats all this about .

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Originally Posted by sweet sista

yeah yeah i know that uuh umm
MARXISM??

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fo sho.

he looked at religion more from the economic standpoint, as he did with almost everything in life.


but id say it applies in other ways too.


your saying people believe in a god (atleast partially) just so they have hope and to give their life some meaning instead of looking at the harsh reality of it all, that we are just actually an unplanned, purposelesss, cosimic accident.

i think living a life where you put so much of yourself into a god is living lie, you are cheating yourself on the truth.

not only are u preventing urself from ever experiencing objective truth...

in many cases u continue a trend that will prevent others from understanding objective truth (because by nature, religion is dogmatic)

furthermore, it prevents you from actually understanding why things are the way they are

even more importantly, it decreases one's real world decision making skills.

and in addition, it prevents one from really understanding just how wonderful and precious life is....(because lets get serious,, how precious is life if its only the result of supernatural father.....there is nothing special about that...) but if life is a result of a natural process that took an astronomical amount of time to be sustained, then THAT is REALLy special and prompts one to look at the world alot differently and with alot more respect!

I Have A Theory
Either Religious Cats Know That Its Bullshit
Or Their Just Very Stupid
I Mean Look At How Many Religions There Are
How Can One Be Wrong And Another True?
Its Stupid To Believe In Anything You Cant See And Know Its Real
But The World Is Full Of Wrong Doing
The More People Follow Religion The Better
Of Course
Isay That But Theres Extremists
Cats In Ireland Blow Each Other Up
And You Got All This Bullshit Muslims Blowin Up Buildings And Shit For Allah
Fuck It

^It sounds like you believe a lot of the lies they told you.

Still waiting for an answer to that last question. I know you stay busy and don't always have the time. I just wanted to make sure it didn't slip from the conversation.