116k actually, and his numbers went down dramatically the second week.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
generalwise's word is hardly proof.
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116k actually, and his numbers went down dramatically the second week.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
generalwise's word is hardly proof.
Why hahaha at me?LOL, speaking my mindQuote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
if he sold an average of 6000 copies a week after the 1st week, thats 300,000 copies. I can't imagine him not doing at least that. and yes u r right about wise.Quote:
Originally Posted by B O T
And i thought you said it in a lol way, lol.:pQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeru
And if we want to incorporate soundscan numbers in this why don't we focus on his release of singles and how well they did. And how much singles and videos he got. As we are doing this, do acknowledge that the debate is shifting from our general opinion to that of a commercial succes facts one. In my opinion this doesn't say a damn thing about an album nowadays.
A point here is, the hype. Everybody was waiting for this album. It was released, one single one video, and it died. It showed up on top tens, but it wasn't like an all year round hitter. Ghost went out like a fire cracker.
no one knows what numbers dude did after he fell off the charts. we do know that there hasnt been anything official that says he went gold or is close to it so im just going by what information is there and are not spectulating or conjecting.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Don't worry, bundles of sticks have no feelings. Do the knowledge.Quote:
Noel, You are a player hating cum guzzling faggot. ANd I don't mean to insult faggots comparing them to you.
This is true, but I am much more entertained by random nonsense than cliche hip hop topics.Quote:
But let's all face something too, sometimes he's always rhymed complete and utter nonsense....sounds good, but Holocaust gets hated on for the same poop.
Agree wholeheartedly. Same deal with 'Strawberry', which was the only joint on BPW that had the potential to be really dope. Worst thing was that this shitty verse was recycled on 'The Problem'. As for his singing, it's like fingernails on a chalk board, only so much worse.Quote:
He completely ruins Projects on Forever with his stupid sex rhymes, and his need for singing has to go
Although let's not forget the pitiful and shameful efforts of 'Never Be The Same Again', 'Ghostshowers', 'Love Session', and 'Tush'.Quote:
One other thing about Ghost is his ability to make good mainstream tracks. I think Be Easy and Back like that are good
"Aren't even average"? Why do people keep exaggerating everything I say? It's incredibly irritating. And dude, just because you might think Ghost's post-'Forever' albums are better than any other Clan member, it doesn't make it the accepted truth. I think Gza's catalogue is far greater than Ghost's.Quote:
if all his album post sc arent even average then you cant possibly think that ANY clan memeber album(besides ghost) after wu forever even reached garbage status
Again I repeat that I don't know mainstream artists. I am talking about mainstream hip hop in general. As in Ghost raps about the same cliche shit you hear on the radio a lot of the time.Quote:
You say that his lyrics are more or less just like other "mainstream" rappers. Which rappers? give me examples homie.
I'm not trying to convince anybody. I'm just sharing my observations.Quote:
Or do you believe that just by saying its enough?
Yeah, he's definately not what he used to be. I've heard he's put in some very dud live performances in recent years. Fortunately he put on a good show when he came over here last year.Quote:
Oyeah, I say GZA went way down. The man can barely hold a conceert any more, let alone rap his own tracks without gasping for breath. Age got teh better of him for some years now. HE made a fool of himself when he was in Amsterdam with the Clan rapping with one hand inside his pants.
I would just like to say in response of the so-called "stupid sex rhymes" comment, Ghost has always played the overt misogynist perfectly IMO. He picks up where 2 live crew and akinyele started and his rhymes are unforgiving and eye-opening. This is the truest sign of an artist. When you can not only cross the line but erase it all together challenging other artists to go further.
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Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Ha....now that is funny. Akinyele and the 2 Live Crew have their gimmick which is fine. Ghost on Wildflower or even on Stand Up w/Charlie Baltimore is fine. On other songs where it doesnt fit, no it's not good at all. And at times not done well. When the 2 live Crew did it it was erasing the line, bc hip hop wasn't explicit, there were only a handful of people with explicit lyrics. Ghost doing it now isn't being creative at all. Maybe you just like hearing him describe his dick. Which is cool. To each his own.
Haha, word. I definately back cd's post. There is nothing creative about it at all considering the era where Ghost dropped those verses. It's just lame really. A grown man rapping explicit shit just for the sake of it. 'Wildflower' is possibly my favourite Ghost track. I think it's great. He's ripping on some ho who did him wrong. I can relate to that. But randomly spitting verses of that nature in a song like 'Projects' for example, is just really lame, inappropriate, uncalled-for and pointless.
okay thats cool, I voice my opinion, and get a homo joke thrown at me. But with a comment like that I just have to ask cd, where's your mind at?
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Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Did I say anything about being a homo? That's just how you're taking it. You explained how you feel Ghost on Projects is completely artistic and eye opening. I personally think he sounds like a 15 year old plus it doesn't fit the song. So from that I take it you enjoy his rhymes about his dick, bc that's what it was. Doesn't mean you're gay, but I don't understand how you think it's great. So to each his own. Don't see how you got upset about it. It's what you said you like.
Did I ever once mention the song projects? Did I? I don't think so.
and you said "maybe you just like hearing him describe his dick." sounds like a jab to me, but if I misinterpreted your intentions, well who cares anyway? Why would you say that unless you had a couple skeletons in the old closet that needs some air?
micheal Jackson said to tell you guys that you all suck and cilvaringz album will go platinum if he has something to say about it
heeeeeeeeeeee heeeeeeeeeeeQuote:
Originally Posted by graveyard_shifter
MJ^^^
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Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Haha, you are funny. You directly quoted and responded to my comments about Projects......So not only do you love hearing Ghost rhyme about his dick, are overly sensitive that someone might think you're gay, now you're fantasizing about me. Just admit it and release the burden. You'll be fine. There's nothing wrong with it.
MJ will probably love you more