What I feel about The Rza, and the 5%

correct knowcheese.

i belong to a particular group which believes that.. the time you are speaking of IS now.
and that the persona of Jesus already came back

you see we also belive that Elijah came back as John the Babtist, and the fact that this is true to us.. shows that the coming of Jesus will be through another body.

when somebody dies..the body changes matter.. the mind does not.

this is saying that, the attributes of Jesus will be bestowed to somebody else.


obviously u are confused now as to what im saying.. let me give u a link!

lol trust me when i tell you he is not confused to what your saying

i see this

there are pieces that yall didn't realize yet

but in time god willing you will

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Originally Posted by knowcheeze

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"The only one ducking here is you, why not just prove that he called himself that? Since you seem to have done the research and consider yourself "worthy" to mention it in the first place."

I don't own the books i have read about him.....even if i did make a trip to the lie-berry and found the quotes you would just shuck and duck and say some shit like you been doing when i wasted my time posting bible verses that YOU SHOULD ALREADY KNOW..as i said....every Ethiopian and every devil knows that he called himself the Lion of Judah.....as i said...study a subject before you debate it.....

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You're obviously not a RASTA, please don't speak on their theology and what some DEVILS and Ethiopians said (who BTW OVERTHREW HIS ASS) if you can't back it up.

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"Show and Prove."

No please don't use 5 percent slang....please don't...you obviously worship a spook god....thats not 5 percent......

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You wanna act like a savage now?

Showing and Proving has been terminology used since the ancient world.

1Th 5:21 PROVE all things; hold fast that which is good.

It's refering to those who STUDY, they should prove what they study.

Further proof:

2Ti 2:15 STUDY to SHEW thyself APPROVED unto God, a workman that needeth not to be ashamed, rightly dividing the word of truth.

So what do you have to say about that savage??

An what do you know about what I worship or rather commune with?? I don't worship mystery god, I'm also not a athiest fool.

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"Why do I mention reincarnation? Because the scriptures do. They asked if John the Baptist was Elijah, or did you not know that?? There is no way you can debate the fact. It clearly states Elijah the Prophet would come in the last days. Nowhere does it state "a person named Elijah would come in the last days". "

See this is exactly why im not gonna waste my time finding anymore info for you...the verse clearly says the person who will be sent in the last days will be ELIJAH.....

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That much is clear. You obviously lack reading comprehension of the verse. It DOES NOT say Elijah the prophet would be named Elijah when he came in the last days.

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it doesn't say anything about reincarnation......i will send ELIJAH....not....i will sent Elijah reincarnted.....

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Listen you obviously have never studied the bible and have chosen what scriptures to jack to fit your theology, or rather the NOI's theology.

Elijah the Prophet EXISTED BEFORE the relevant scripture in Malachi was written, did you know that??

In order for him to come in the LAST DAYS he would have to come through REINCARNATION.

Or would you say reincarnation is a "spook" belief??

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"Why bring him up if you couldn't show & prove that he was what people believed him to be??

How do you know he did this?"

Cuz the bible says he would.....

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Show and Prove that the name and person of Haile Selassie is mentioned in the Bible.

Does the Bible also say he would be buried under a toilet, like it's said he was??

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Your the one who looks foolish.......you don't even know the subject you are debating...you must be 5 years old and think girls are gross......

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"I've been doing my studies, thank you, and I'm telling you - you need to study harder. It's obvious I already knew what the verse said, that's why I asked you to quote the scripture. It's there in black and white - it doesn't say the Israelites served 430 years in Egypt."

...you can go to any Church temple or Mosque and they will tell you the ISrealites were enslaved to the EGyptians.....

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Who cares what spook god worshippers in "church temples" and "mosques" say?? The Bible does not say the Israelites served 430 years and them muthafuckas can't prove that they did.

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"It's obvious I've done more study on the subject then you have, so why not just admit you're wrong about what the verse says instead of convincing yourself I don't know what I'm talking about, or even worse ignoring what your own eyes are telling you??"

You have obviously been smoking more crack than me.....you are clearly the one who is lacking in studies.....

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Then prove in the verses you quoted pages back where it states "served in Egypt for 430 years".

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re-incarnation....heh....cute.....

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Oh so you are saying reincarnation is not part of the culture of original people??

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"That's correct. That's why I wrote 400 years. Then I further informed you that prophecies came after it that changed it. You do realize that Abraham wasn't the final prophet, yes??"

huh?

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Pay attention know-shit, I know the 400 year dream was for Abraham. I also undersand there to be prophecies that stated the 400 years were supposed to be cut short. Not only does the Old Testament touch on that, so did the prophet Jesus.

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"Where were they brought to in 1555?"

THe so called New World.....

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They came BEFORE 1555. Or are you implying that is the "official" date??

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"WHY do you continue to AVOID proving that Israelites SERVED 430 years in Egypt?????

Or that a man NAMED Elijah would come in the last days?????

Or that Haile was CALLING HIMSELF Lion of Judah?????"

Any Ethiopian will tell you he called himself the Lion of Judah......i live in a area with alot of Ethiopians....even the EThiopians who don't like him will tell you he called himself the Lion of Judah.....

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I don't give a fuck what they say. I also know that Ethiopians overthrew this so-called "Lion of Judah". I asked your admitted crack smoking ass from the beginning to prove he said it of himself.

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you have no idea how foolish you are appearing.......the verse says i will send Elijah........Elijah will be his name....

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I know it states Elijah would be sent. Now prove that the verse states "Elijah will be his name". You're a lier.

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take your hippy bullshit reincarnation somewhere else.....

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I wouldn't call the ancient NATIVE AMERICAN, BUDDHIST, and HINDU cultures "hippy bullshit".

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please take your ass to a church or mosque so they can tell you that the ISrealites served in Egypt for 430 years......

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Why can't YOU prove it in the verses your blind unworthy crack smoking ass quoted earlier?? I'm not the one needing further study on the subject.

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"So WHY did you bring him up claiming he "released seals"?? Why do you pass off information without FIRST having done the knowledge?? "



THe bible says he will release the seals....

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Where does it say HAILE SELASSIE in the Bible??

SHOW and PROVE.

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.im going by the bible and quran...you are the one making shit up....

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Oh so Haile Selassie is mentioned in the Quran now as well??

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"Do the KNOWLEDGE, Son. before you do the WISDOM" -- RZA"

Yes....listen to RZA....don't debate Haile Selassie or the bible if you never studied it........you are clearly the one who wisedomed before he knowledged......

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Prove that he "released seals" to events that happened before his birth, and after the "conquering lion" fled his countr,y was chased to England, overthrown by his own people, and finally buired under a toilet.

Prove that it states in the Bible the Israelites served 430 years in Egypt.

Prove in the Bible that Elijah the Prophet would be recognized by the name "Elijah" in the last days. (and then convert to Islam!)

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this was one big fuckin waste of time....i thought you were going to have an intelligent convo and you turn the shit into a game......

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The only one playing games here is you. Trying to pass off information that is not RIGHT and EXACT. (or is that more terminology I shouldn't be using?)

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oh well...i learn so much from debating people on the internet.....especially i learn the tactics people use when they lack knowledge on the subject....so far you have done nothing but speculate and alter bible verses......

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Not so fast know-shit.

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....but I did question why YOU call himed him LOJ. I was not familiar that he used the title to refer to himself. It's only NOW that you mention he signed his letters with "LOJ". (DO YOU HAVE A SOURCE FOR THAT?)

But your initial piece of "evidence" (in post #130) you stated:

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Brother....you are GREATLY mis-informed on that one.....one day i was watching old news reels from the 30's.....new reels made by AMERICAN reporters....and these AMERICAN reporters were calling him the LION OF JUDAH......

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And I told you I don't trust devil or the media in such matters. The CIA ran the "media" and they still run the shit, especially back in the "1930's". (the date you gave; btw do you have a SOURCE?)

Then you further stated:

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Haile Selassie was known as the Lion of Judah Root of David to Ethiopians and the whole world.......

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And I understood that to be the case. Though I must ask you this; are you implying that the "whole world" believed he fulfilled the title mentioned in the book of Revelation?? Do you believe he believed that of himself??

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Show and Prove that this alleged affair between Solomon and Sheba produced a seed and point out where in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel it's recorded (chapter and verse please). But before you do that, can you even prove in the Bible they had sexual relations with each other??"

Its in a book called the Kebra Negast.....read it....

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Why do refer me to the KN? You made the claim about a biblical figure (Solomon) and I asked you to prove:

* WHERE in the Chronicles of the Kings of Israel is the seed of Solomon and Sheba recorded?? (chapter and verse please)

* WHERE in the bible is it written that they had sexual relations?? (chapter & verse)

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sorry kepphie pies...study a subject before you debate it okay?
otherwise keep on riverdancing....im at a internet cafe and im not gonna waste my money debating someone who don't know shit about the subject they debating..


peace wooly!!!!!
peace prince...

What subject should I study know shit? We've discussed several. And you havn't shown yourself approved with any of them.

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just re-read the thread wardy.....this has been addressed already.....

No need to be proud know shit. There's no rush. If you need time to study up I understand. I'll be here when you decide to answer the questions.

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you kind remind me of this dude in duckdown.com message board named basement addicts....he be loosin debates horribly but his responses show no acknowledgement.......

anyways....so keph....what religion are you??
what are your beliefs about the bible and quran or things to do with God.....

Do you think the people on KTL are dumb? Anyone whose read the last few posts plainly see where you failed to give adequate rebuttal to my last post. At this point of the discussion, if it's to continue, instead of trying to rationalize that I'm "loosin" the debate try to ANSWER THE QUESTIONS.

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Hmmmm......theres one person on Knowth(beeeeeeeeeeep)

The biggest dagger in your credability is how post after post you questioned if King Selassie called himself or was known as the Lion of Judah.....you got embarassed EARLY on so then you began picking needles out of a haystack.....

one of these needles was the Malachi 4:5 verse.....the bible is open for interpertation/speculation but when it says "I WILL SEND ELIJAH" its pretty reasonable to speculate that Elijah will be the name of the prophet before the great and dreadfull day...............unless one was picking needles.......so needlepicker? you got something better? lets hear it!!!!!!!....

another needle was the 430 issue.....i only mentioned 430 in my original post in this thread because i know that typically some dumb ass is gonna say Abrahams dream in Genesis was about the Isrealites in Egypt.................

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The biggest dagger in your credability is how post after post you questioned if King Selassie called himself or was known as the Lion of Judah.....you got embarassed EARLY on so then you began picking needles out of a haystack.....

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I never questioned if HS was called LOJ. You're a LIER. Quote exactly where and when -- because this lie is not helping you convince anybody. What I asked for was proof that your Jewish king refered to himself as such. Your only "evidence" was some shit about media devils calling him that in 1930's news reels. You also havn't proven that he signed his letters "Lion of Judah".

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one of these needles was the Malachi 4:5 verse.....the bible is open for interpertation/speculation but when it says "I WILL SEND ELIJAH" its pretty reasonable to speculate that Elijah will be the name of the prophet before the great and dreadfull day...............unless one was picking needles.......so needlepicker? you got something better? lets hear it!!!!!!!....

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* Again, the scripture in question doesn't state that Elijah the prophet would be NAMED Elijah in the last days, that's only your assumption.

*By simply refering to other scriptures it's understood that what's being implied in Malachi is reincarnation. (which you called "hippie shit")

* Biblically speaking in reincarnation nobody knows the events or the names of their past lives. It's understood that "there is no remembrance of former things". (that is unless they fit prophecy)

* According to the OT the prophet Elijah lived in ANCIENT Israel. The prophet Malachi who came later prophesied that Elijah would COME AGAIN in the last days.

* So it's not a matter of interpretation but of adding words on to the specificity of the passage. (i.e. saying he would be "named" Elijah)

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another needle was the 430 issue.....i only mentioned 430 in my original post in this thread because i know that typically some dumb ass is gonna say Abrahams dream in Genesis was about the Isrealites in Egypt.................

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Not only did you mention it you were also arguing the scripture states something it clearly does not.

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blah blah blah.....no credability have you.....deal with it.....
if it was me who made a BIG ASS BLUNDER early on i would be a man about it and submit to the one who has greater knowledge...but you a funny style cat....so...

i made a mistake of argueing the 430 year issue because it has nothing to do with my original post except for the reasons i have already said.......i gave your funny style self an oppotunity to digress the whole thing into some nonsense George W type shit.....

as far as Malachi 4:5......it doesn't say a damn thing about REINCARNATION so if ANYONE is adding or subtracting from the text its you....

BEHOLD I WILL SEND ELIJAH THE PROPHET

Keph says thats REINCARNATION(although i don't see REINCARNATION anywhere in the bible)

Knowcheezeshush says the prophets name will be Elijah....

now which viewpoint is more feasable???

give it up funny style

peace.

peace Kephrem. On point.




Anyways, in response to the 1st statement submitted on the 1st page...,

the 5% are not Muslims.

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SubliminaLtha7thBorN

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every 5 percenter knows that Elijah Muhammad is the Messenger of Allah and the one spoken of in Malachi.....

so if you think Funny Style Keph is on point then there is no way you could ever ever ever ever ever be a 5 percenter........

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