rakeback? on stars? I don't think so.
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rakeback? on stars? I don't think so.
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What do you really have to lose by proving me wrong? Perhaps I'm just running really horribly, but i offer you a chance to sit at a table with me and see if I'm lying or really just a "busto" like you said.
i am down to play you HU. but only on stars or microgaming, the only 2 sites i have any money on.
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I don't appreciate the insinuation that I'm a loser simply because i couldn't hang on to a bankroll.
you mean like you insinuated that i didnt have the bankroll i said i did? all you told me was you won 40K in tournaments and are now broke... not weird of me to assume you lost the money playing. but apparently you cashed it all out, fair enough. i would have left at least something online to play with, but cool
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I understand why it's easy for you to say online isn't rigged....and I'm sure you deposited money on their site. They probably love you.
just lol. yeah i deposited a whole $50 a few years ago. actually i am gonna send an email to pokerstars support with your claims and paste the asnwer here
do you have a hand history for that PLO8 hand? could you post it please?
its true stars transfer is very handy and quick. however for larger transfers sometimes they call your home number to verify the trasnfer, or send and email verifying that you actually did make the transfer, and asking the full name of the recipient
technically you arent allowed to swap stars money for FT money, but it happens all the time and they have no way of knowing really, so no biggie. and its true, stars doesnt have direct rakeback. although their vip program can be very good for high volume players
I'm getting my complete hand history from them now, if they decide to send it. Who knows.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic-cord-strangler
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Thank you for your email.
We have received your request. Please be aware that it may take time to
process. Once we receive it from our database I will immediately send
to you.
Thank you for your patience. If you have any other request, please do
not
hesitate to contact us. We will be happy to help.
Regards,
Helena S
PokerStars Support Team
hehe stars support is actually quite witty and hilarious at times. example:
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Ok, here's the deal. I hate full tilt. You guys are so much better than
full tilt, your tournaments are better, your rake is better, your player
rewards program is better, and your support staff is second to none,
seriously, pokerstars support is phenomenal. Unfortunately, the
pokerstars doomswitch hit me pretty hard, and I haven't been able to
maintain a bankroll on your site. I accidentally deposited money on full
tilt, and somebody there wasn't manning the doomswitch, and I've actually
established a bankroll. With that out there, is there any way to transfer
money between your two sites? It's hard for me to deposit any amount of
money on your site, and I was wondering if this was an option. Thanks for
your time!
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>PiousDevil
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>p.s. are any legislative measures being taken to curb the senseless
slaughter of sharks by the chinese? Something needs to be done about
their wasteful ways, it's a crime against god to kill these creatures by
the millions, taking only their fins and leaving them to die. I know you
have the answers for me.
answer:
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Hello Jason,
I thank you for taking the time to contact PokerStars with your concerns.
I have taken the liberty of reviewing previous correspondence that we have
had and can see that we have touched on the subject of the 'doomswitch'
previously.
I am sure you are well aware that there is no such thing as a 'Doom
switch'. We have no interest in providing action or augmenting the hands
in any way. Bad beats simply happen on their own. We have no control over
who wins and loses in our games and we cannot determine how the flop,
turn, river, or pocket cards are going to fall and produce bad beats in
any manner whatsoever.
If you truly believe that what you say is true - that a 'doomswitch' has
been activated on your PokerStars account - then I urge you to take us up
on our offer to provide you with your full hand history, as we have
offered to you previously. We offer you this because we have nothing to
hide - we deal a fair game, and there is no such thing as a 'doomswitch'.
In regards to your funds transfer query, please note that we are in no way
affiliated with Full Tilt Poker in any way, shape or form and therefore
your funds will not be able to be transferred from Full Tilt Poker to your
PokerStars account. We apologise for any inconvenience caused.
I have investigated your concerns relating to the slaughter of sharks and
found that new laws have been passed to prevent finning; though much of
the international waters continue to be unregulated. The United States
recently issued a ban on finning, applicable only to U.S.-registered
vessels, even in U.S. territorial waters; and shark fins cannot be
imported into the USA without entire carcasses. International fishing
authorities are in the process of banning shark fishing (and finning) in
the Atlantic ocean and Mediterranean Sea. Finning is banned in the Eastern
Pacific, but shark fishing and finning unfortunately continues unabated in
the rest of the Pacific and Indian ocean.
If you have any further queries or concerns, please do not hesitate to
contact us again at any time.
Thank you for choosing PokerStars, and best of luck at the tables.
Regards,
TomV
PokerStars Support Team
:D
bwahahaha
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Hello PokerStars Support
I have my eye on the PokerStars motorcycle jacket that is available in the FPP store, but I have a problem. See, I look really young for my age. I basically can't go anywhere without getting asked for proof of age, often multiple times at the same venue. Sometimes places kick me out anyway, refusing to believe that I am 20. I am afraid that if I were to start wearing a leather jacket around, it would only exaggerate my boyish looks. This has the potential to cause hella complications in my social life.
I guess my question is, are chicks gonna dig me in this jacket or what? I can provide pics if that would help.
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Thank you for your email.
The problem you face is a common one among young looking people such as yourself; for example, the problem dogged Emmanuel Lewis (TV's Webster) and Gary Coleman for years. I cannot say that they ever tried wearing one of our leather jackets, but had they tried it, I can only presume that their lives would have been model examples of child stars gone right, rather than how they actually turned out.
Basically, the best way to think of it is that if you don't want to end up like Gary Coleman and Emmanuel Lewis, it would be best to order the jacket. It's just a matter of simple logic.
hey mic cord, with your PS fpps, are you saving for the Porche?
nah i'll never make that imo. i just use them buying random stuff. im gonna make supernova this year though, supernova elite is not possible for me
btw i sent a mail now, will post reply when i get it :D
got a reply already
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Dear Pokerstars support. I know someone who insists that Pokerstars
cash games are somehow 'rigged'. I keep telling him its not true
but he just won't listen. These are some of his thoughts:
"all online cash games are rigged, they are built to cause sick
amounts of coolers. your best bet is to play as slow as humanly
possible and only raise when you have the nuts or close to it."
and
"I wish I was joking, but the only time I've had success in cash
games is to play super tight. I just sat at 3 PLO8 tables for about
3 hours and didn't catch a single big hand. I've got morons all
around me raising preflop with anything imaginable and hitting
runner runner garbage straights to beat my top set. I can't figure
it out for the life of me, other than they are helping the dumber
players and punishing those who understand the game. Like I said
before, the cash games are completely fucked."
As I said he just will not listen to me, so I am asking if you can
say anything that will make him see the error in his ways?
Thanks, and greetings!
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Thank you for your email.
Well, you can tell him that all the commonly held 'rigged' theories are
certainly possible, and make for a very interesting and advanced
conspiracy theory, but they all suffer from the same problem - a
fundamental logical flaw. This is because, unlike all other conspiracies,
the evidence needed to prove them is freely available - let me explain:
Let us say that you wanted to prove that PokerStars' shuffle was not
random. The potential value in you proving that our deal is unfair is
huge. There was one instance, in the early days of online poker, where the
top site at the time had a shuffle algorithm that was not random - It was
cracked by Cigital (1), one of the companies we commissioned to review our
RNG and procedures. The site fixed the problem, but they never truly
recovered and are now not even one of the top 20 sites. Everyone who has
followed in their footsteps learned a valuable lesson indeed.
If you proved that our shuffle was not random it would be worth at least
tens of millions of pounds (the value that another site would likely pay
to eliminate us as a competitor), and to us it is worth more since you
would have the evidence to end the company and the careers of everyone
working here.
All you would need is a sufficient sample of hands and you could easily
statistically prove the shuffle was not random.
Now we do freely give out complete hand history records to any player who
asks for them, so we are in effect willing to give out the information you
need to prove these conspiracies and destroy this company. To put that in
poker terms, if we are involved in a conspiracy, then we are making the
biggest bluff you have ever seen, since we are gambling hundreds of
millions on the fact you wouldn't do anything with the histories we would
happily give you. In fact we even programmed the PokerStars client to
store your hands to your hard drive if you want, so there can be no
possibility of us fixing the histories either.
If it is a bluff, then it can't be a smart decision from any perspective
can it?
So, you can ask your friend this; Does he think we make this bluff every
day, or are we holding the absolute nuts as we *know* he would only be
able to prove the shuffle is fair?
What I have given above is also the most basic form of this argument. I
haven't even detailed the fact that my colleagues and I have access to all
the hands ever played on the site and could obtain a huge sample of hands
within minutes. We have the same potential payoff to proving a conspiracy
as you do.
In summary, the conspiracy theories are believable because he wants to
believe that the bad beats he suffers have a reason behind them. It's
easier to accept that than the fact that in a random game anything can
happen. It's also much easier to accept than the reality that if you play
perfect poker all your beats will, by definition, be bad beats - which is
a sobering truth.
So, if the entire hand history is available whenever you, or your friend,
wants it. I hope it is obvious that it is impossible for us to run an
unfair site and freely provide the evidence to players to prove it.
You can give him some more good why we do not cheat our players too, if
you want:
1. Integrity of the game would clearly be jeopardized and players would no
longer trust us and play on our site.
2. As a business it makes sense to keep all our players happy and there is
no incentive for us to favor one player winning over another.
3. PokerStars makes money from the rake and tournament fees. We want to
have as many players on our tables as we can. If we favor some players to
win and others to lose, it would actually decrease the number of players
and the site would actually lose money.
4. It would actually be much more difficult to create a non random, bias
shuffle that favors certain players over other players. The manpower needed
to do this with the number of hands we deal and the number of players we
have playing on any given day would be tremendous. Since there are no
benefits from doing this, but a dramatic increase in costs and programming
labor, there is no motive for us to make a non random bias shuffle.
Let's assume for a moment that we did do this though. In this very
hypothetical situation, let's then assume that a PokerStars employee gets
sick of it and releases compelling evidence that it's true. We would then
likely lose a large percentage of our players, if not all of them. As we
make our money purely from rake and tournament fees, we would therefore go
out of business. So what's the point in doing it? A debatable short term
gain in return for losing the entire business isn't a very good trade off,
irrespective of mathematical, moral and legal reasons to not cheat our
players.
I hope you have found this email helpful.
If you have any other questions, please let us know.
Best regards,
Fredrik E
Poker Specialist
PokerStars Support Team
Mic Cord,
Ik daag u aan een spel van Oud Meisje uit of ga Vissen?
I had to withdrawal half of my BR....I got doom switched bad. $250 into my instadebit.
I'm playin OHL Limit $1.00 MTT and .10/.20 cash
chips tp start
MTT
1500
cash
$7.52
half hour in
MTT
3271
showdowns 5 of 6 (83%)
cash
$11.50
showdowns 10 of 13 (76%)
MTT 2939
7 of 9 (77%)
cash $7.68
11 of 17 (64%)
MTT 4100
10 of 14 SD (71%)
cash $6.23
13 of 21 (61%) ugh
My doomswitch was lifted recently. Played 800 hands of .10/.25 NLHE last night...75% SD....before that I was in the 40's.
I guess my losing streak wasnt too bad....busting out 13/15 consecutive buyins isnt uncommon at times.
that ain't shit, try cashing in six in a row then flipping it with 29 out of the money in a row. Shit is infuriating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG
It could be.... but 6/35 is still ITM 17%...if those are MTTs.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
When I moved up in MTTs and SNGs I havent one cash...ROI is around 0 now....but I have nowhere near that many out of the money in a row.
I am a consistent 20-22% cashing
nice....my MTT cashing is bad. Hopefully you have a good % of those cashes in top 3 finishes.
Last few days I seen durrrr getting his ass handed to him by Gus Hanson. Still like 37K hand to go in the challenge with Antonius.
1st -11
2nd - 11
3rd - 10
4-10 - 91
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v3...mmerzoveel.jpg
Can anyone explain to me how I could've lost this pot?
I limp on button...small limps en big checks... SB bets flop, BB raises, I push, SB folds and BB calls...
Explain to me please the logic...and no he wasn't pot commited when I pushed
There is no logic. This happens to me on a daily basis.
Yup I see that happen every couple 100 hands or so.
I think he just put you on a flush draw without the top pair since you limped.
Nevertheless some of those callers are the bread and butter to doubling up.
LOL i love how donks whine about loosing stuff like that ! it's poker you only had top pair on the flop, anything can happen. plus if you just limp dont expect to win with KQ. you should of 3bet pflopQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeru
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Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG
exactly, badbeats (even tho that wasnt one) happens to everybody and that doesnt matter, what matters is that at the end of every month you got a positive graphic and youre making money.
please don't give any more advice in this thread. 3 bet with king queen? shut the fuck up.Quote:
Originally Posted by oLd_KaiNry
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Originally Posted by Jeru
i suggest you go watch some instructional vids or buy some books
playing SUPER tight at the cheeseburger stakes is the worst thing to do.
playing the small stakes and whinning about limpin with KQ is better ?Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
you think limping in these stakes is a good move ? HAHHAHAHA
and reading what you say on this thread doesnt make you more legit! thinking you a real grinder copy/pasting other ppl stratQuote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
everything I post is my own, so like I said before, shut the fuck up
Yes, I do think limping at those stakes is a good move. Especially if you can actually play and read hands. You are obviously a blaster. A no-talent hack who shoves and prays the cards cooperate. Good Luck, cause you're gonna need it.Quote:
Originally Posted by oLd_KaiNry
yup thats what i doQuote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
amazing pokers reads
i love the pokers
When I played $2 SNGs I was moderately successful. Every one of them I am usually 2nd or 3rd with chips until there are 3 left. Of course the successful donk that doubled up 2 or 3 times as an underdog is in 1st. When it narrows down I start hacking away at his stack.
I also played the turbo SNGs more and less at a time because your forced to play more second place hands like J-T at times.
Kainry, I don't know what you been sniffin, but top pair with the K high flushdraw and knowing it's good and then getting donked around...you think I'm the donk? LOL... I can hit 3 Q, 3 K and 9 clubs...and you think I ONLY had top pair? I'm favorit...and thinking I'm gonna go allin with a draw while I still had a healthy chipstack is retarded... calling with ace high on the river is genius, calling with ace high on the flop, seeing you're behind and hitting a 2 outer... that's redonkulous... and you're saying I should read a poker book? LMFAO...GTFO
Yeah totally right, that's why I'm winning 80 % of the SNG's I play these days...STFU, you obviously know NOTHING about pokerQuote:
Originally Posted by oLd_KaiNry
He's obviously crazy JQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeru
LMAO that wasn't one? How do you describe hitting a 2 outter to win? Getting it in with the best hand? HAHAHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA, go back to the pokerrooms and waste some playchips jackass.Quote:
Originally Posted by oLd_KaiNry
I'm gettin that distinct feeling also... my mother knows nothing about poker and she is smart enought to see when I showed her the hand that I was favorit and this guy doesn't? LMAO, he must be at about -10000$ by nowQuote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
whinning about loosing such a hand makes you a donkQuote:
Originally Posted by Jeru
and yes i iz totally crazieee