Illuminati on Center Stage with their "Gang of Six"
Illuminati on Center Stage with their "Gang of Six"
- 3 Republicans
- 3 Democrats
- 3 Tax Brackets
* 2 parties (Republicans/Democrats)
You do the Math.
Look at this politician throwing up the secret (triple six) hand sign.
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/20/debt.talks/
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Ever notice how AP photographers always catch them doing gestures like this?
There was an article that suggests this is done on purpose. It is supposed to be a way these public figures communicate to other members thru mass media while the speech portion of their broadcast is for the masses.
Interestingly another notable part of the article says this:
Obama said before the vote that legislators "don't have any more time to engage in symbolic gestures."
Why quote this, and why say this? Other than the proverbial illuminati lens I'm looking at this with - what gestures would this supposedly be if it were such an innocent comment?
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Under the Gang of Six plan -- put together by three Democrats and three Republicans -- $500 billion in budget savings would be immediately imposed, with marginal income tax rates reduced and the controversial alternative minimum tax ultimately abolished.
The plan would create three tax brackets with rates from 8% to 12%, 14% to 22%, and 23% to 29%
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Raising taxes is the end goal for their poor spending. All their double talk of reducing spending is really a call to raise taxes.
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Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, also questioned the Gang of Six plan's call for increased tax revenue and commitment to reducing future costs.
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More double talk:
I ain't approve that shit, but I let it pass..
I ain't approve nathan neither! ..yea I let it pass too..
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Congress would vote on -- and presumably pass -- "resolutions of disapproval" for each request. Obama would likely veto each resolution. Unless Congress manages to override the president's vetoes -- considered highly unlikely -- the debt ceiling would increase.
The unusual scheme would allow most Republicans and some more conservative Democrats to vote against any debt ceiling hike while still allowing it to clear."
SMH.
Here's the full article:
http://www.cnn.com/2011/POLITICS/07/20/debt.talks/
'Gang of Six' plan takes center stage as debt deadline nears
By Alan Silverleib and Tom Cohen, CNN
July 20, 2011 11:57 a.m. EDT
Washington (CNN) -- Top administration and congressional officials continued focusing on a new bipartisan $3.7 trillion debt reduction plan Wednesday -- the latest effort to avoid a potentially catastrophic default next month on the federal government's financial obligations.
President Barack Obama offered strong praise for the initiative on Tuesday, calling it "broadly consistent" with his own approach to the current debt ceiling crisis because it mixes tax changes, entitlement reforms and spending reductions.
Senate Democratic leaders, however, expressed skepticism that they will be able to increase the debt limit and pass the plan -- drafted by members of the chamber's so-called "Gang of Six" -- by the August 2 deadline.
If Congress fails to raise the current $14.3 trillion debt ceiling by that date, Americans could face rising interest rates, a declining dollar and increasingly jittery financial markets, among other problems.
The seriousness of the overall situation was reinforced last week when a major credit rating agency, Standard and Poor's, said it was placing the United States' sovereign rating on "CreditWatch with negative implications." Another major agency -- Moody's Investors Services -- said it would put America's bond rating on review for a possible downgrade.
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House Republicans, meanwhile, approved a "cut, cap and balance" plan Tuesday night that would raise the debt ceiling while imposing strict caps on all future federal spending and making it significantly tougher to raise taxes -- the solution favored by hard-line conservatives.
The GOP plan -- which also requires Congress to pass a balanced budget amendment to the Constitution before raising the debt ceiling -- has little chance of clearing the Democratic-controlled Senate or surviving a certain presidential veto. The vote did, however, allow rank-and-file Republicans to clearly demonstrate their preference for steps favored by many in the tea party movement even as their leadership seeks a middle ground with Democrats.
"While President Obama simply talks tough about cutting spending, House Republicans are taking action," House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, said in a statement after the sharply polarized 234-190 vote.
Obama said before the vote that legislators "don't have any more time to engage in symbolic gestures."
"We have a Democratic president and administration that is prepared to sign a tough package that includes both spending cuts (and) modifications to Social Security, Medicaid and Medicare that would strengthen those systems and allow them to move forward, and would include a revenue component," Obama added.
"We now have a bipartisan group of senators who agree with that balanced approach. And we've got the American people who agree with that balanced approach."
Obama also refused to rule out a fallback plan proposed by Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell, R-Kentucky, that would raise the debt ceiling up to $2.5 trillion through the 2012 election.
Under the Gang of Six plan -- put together by three Democrats and three Republicans -- $500 billion in budget savings would be immediately imposed, with marginal income tax rates reduced and the controversial alternative minimum tax ultimately abolished.
The plan would create three tax brackets with rates from 8% to 12%, 14% to 22%, and 23% to 29% -- part of a new structure designed to generate an additional $1 trillion in revenue. It would require cost changes to Medicare's growth rate formula, as well as $80 billion in Pentagon cuts.
Sen. Tom Coburn, R-Oklahoma, announced Tuesday that he had decided to rejoin the group. Coburn had recently withdrawn from the Gang of Six due to a dispute over entitlement cuts, but declared Tuesday that the plan, which now includes $116 billion in entitlement health care cost savings, has "moved significantly, and (is) where we need to be."
Other legislators supporting the plan included two conservative Republicans -- Sen. Lamar Alexander of Tennessee and Rep. Roger Wicker of Mississippi -- while another GOP conservative, Sen. Jeff Sessions of Alabama, raised questions about whether it achieves necessary spending cuts and raises taxes.
"We don't have 60 votes, but we're moving toward it," Senate Majority Whip Dick Durbin, D-Illinois, told reporters Wednesday, referencing the number of votes necessary to overcome a potential filibuster and win Senate approval.
A spokesman for Boehner said Tuesday the Gang of Six plan is similar in concept to what Boehner and Obama had discussed in their negotiations so far, "but also appears to fall short in some important areas."
Other House Republican leaders, including Majority Leader Eric Cantor of Virginia and Budget Committee Chairman Rep. Paul Ryan of Wisconsin, also questioned the Gang of Six plan's call for increased tax revenue and commitment to reducing future costs.
Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid, D-Nevada, meanwhile, noted that the Constitution requires revenue bills to originate in the House, while Durbin pointed out that the plan still must be drafted into legislative language and analyzed by the Congressional Budget Office before it can be considered.
"It's not ready for prime time," said Durbin, also one of the Gang of Six negotiators.
Reid said he's open to incorporating some elements of the proposal into a separate bill that he and McConnell are drafting as a fallback option to prevent the U.S. government from defaulting on its debt.
Several new public opinion polls, meanwhile, show that a majority of Americans want legislators to compromise on a deficit reduction deal instead of refusing to yield from their starting positions.
A CBS News poll released Monday indicates that two-thirds of Americans say any agreement should include spending reductions and tax hikes, with 28% saying a deal should only include spending cuts and 3% saying it should only include tax increases.
According to the survey, there is little partisan divide on the question. More than seven out of 10 Democrats and more than two-thirds of independent voters support a balanced approach, as do 55% of Republicans and 53% of self-described tea party movement supporters.
A Quinnipiac University poll released last week had similar findings. The survey indicated that two-thirds of the public supported a deal that included spending cuts as well as tax increases for wealthy Americans and corporations. Nearly nine out of 10 Democrats and two-thirds of independents in the survey supported the inclusion of tax increases, with Republicans divided on the issue.
The GOP initiative -- which would require any new tax increases to be approved by two-thirds of the members of the House and Senate -- stands in sharp contrast to Obama's stated preference for a package of roughly $4 trillion in savings over the next decade, composed of tax increases on the wealthy and spending reforms in Medicare, Social Security and elsewhere.
Hopes for such a so-called "grand bargain" appeared to have faded in recent days, partly because Republicans have continued to insist that any tax increases could derail an already shaky economic recovery. It was not immediately clear whether the Gang of Six proposal would be able to revive those hopes.
At the heart of the tax dispute has been Obama's call for more revenue by allowing tax cuts from the Bush presidency to expire at the end of 2012 for families making more than $250,000. The president's ideal plan would keep the lower tax rates for Americans who earn less.
Obama noted last week he is not looking to raise any taxes until 2013 or later. In exchange, the president said, he wants to ensure that the current progressive nature of the tax code is maintained, with higher-income Americans assessed higher tax rates.
But resistance to higher taxes is now a bedrock principle for most Republicans, enforced by conservative crusaders such as political activist Grover Norquist. His group, Americans for Tax Reform, has sponsored a high-profile pledge to oppose any tax increase.
The pledge has been signed by more than 230 House members and 40 senators, almost all of them Republicans.
Despite their differences, leaders from both parties insist they are committed to reaching an agreement that will allow them to raise the debt ceiling before August 2. McConnell's fallback proposal would give Obama the power to raise the borrowing limit by a total of $2.5 trillion, but also require three congressional votes on the issue before the 2012 general election.
Specifically, Obama would be required to submit three requests for debt ceiling hikes -- a $700 billion increase and two $900 billion increases. Along with each request, the president would have to submit a list of recommended spending cuts exceeding the debt ceiling increase. The cuts would not need to be enacted in order for the ceiling to rise.
Congress would vote on -- and presumably pass -- "resolutions of disapproval" for each request. Obama would likely veto each resolution. Unless Congress manages to override the president's vetoes -- considered highly unlikely -- the debt ceiling would increase.
The unusual scheme would allow most Republicans and some more conservative Democrats to vote against any debt ceiling hike while still allowing it to clear.
McConnell and Reid are also working on two critical additions to the plan, according to congressional aides in both parties. One would add up to roughly $1.5 trillion in spending cuts agreed to in earlier talks led by Vice President Joe Biden; the other would create a commission meant to find more major spending cuts, tax increases and entitlement reforms.
Changes agreed to by the commission -- composed of an equal number of House and Senate Democrats and Republicans -- would be subject to a strict up-or-down vote by Congress. No amendments would be allowed.
Sources say the panel would be modeled after the Base Closing and Realignment Commission, which managed to close hundreds of military bases that Congress could not otherwise bring itself to shut down.
CNN's Ted Barrett, Kate Bolduan, Lisa Desjardins, Paul Steinhauser, Deirdre Walsh, Xuan Thai and Jessica Yellin contributed to this report
