how faith is the root of all evil just like money?
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how faith is the root of all evil just like money?
Because it allows a great opportunity for trick - knowledge to thrive in.Quote:
Originally Posted by sweet sista
Faith - 1. Confident belief in the truth, value, or trustworthiness of a person, idea, or thing.
2. Belief that does not rest on logical proof or material evidence.
After you examine the definition...you can see how it is easy to be tricked if you rely on faith...it's better to know.
you're right. but it probabely depends on us to figure if that faith based on somethin' that is for real or not. and of course we should check who made that faith or belief spreads. i mean we should see if that person is tryin' to obtain something. cuz people who go after money or any sort of power over people. they usually give up so quickly or their claims expose to be nothing more than a lie by the the passing of time.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqua Luna
DO U BELIEVE IN GOD? yes
WHO IS GOD?
Allah is God.
S IT A PERSON OR THING? GOD
IF IT IS A PERSON THEN IS THAT PERSON A HE OR SHE? no sexual gender
IS THERE ONLY ONE GOD OR MANY? One God
WHY IS GOD CALLED YAHWEH IN SOME TEXT BUT ALLAH IN
OTHERS?
I don’t know about that YAHWEH but Allah is the Arabic word to God.
WHAT IS YOUR VIEW ON GOD? He controls everything.
DO U FEAR GOD? yep
DO U LOVE OR HATE GOD? Love
DO U RESPECT GOD? yes
DO U SEEK GOD OR DO U SEEK SOMETHING ELSE?
I dunno maybe a little from this and a little from that. I can't keep myself seeking something else coz even if i got everything else. There will be a time when i wonder what else? And i can't keep myself seeking only for god and don't want anything else coz there are a lot of things i find it too hard to live without.
DO U FEEL IT IS BETTER TO LIVE BY THE WORD OF GOD OR WORD OF Man?
so far we saw how the word of man is like. So and for change, the word of God.
IF THERE IS ANYTHING ELSE U WOULD LIKE TO ADD TO THIS PLEASE DO SO
I dunno what to add but May Allah guides you and myself to the truth and before it's too late.
Amen
But the people who go after and actually got all the money - Western society (europeans)...been in rule for thousands of years.Quote:
Originally Posted by sweet sista
Think big my sistah, think big...we in a state of mental slavery - like bondage, and I don't know if you Black or not but the truth is - everybody has been tricked.
Ya gotta know...cause that belief that God is something outside of yourself helps the devil gain power
all the time.. see thats the thing.. my stance is rational.. meaning that it is potentially false!Quote:
Originally Posted by Charging Soldier
all rational and truly logical claims and stances must have the potential of being false.
i would truly love the idea and concept of a supernatural realm and an invisible god. such a thing would truly be amazing and fascinating. as a scientist i would also love that idea because that would mean that the natural world around us isnt all that we think it is.. (this would only add fuel to the burning natural curiosity all scietists have!) if it was somehow proven that there is a supernatural realm and aspet to life, we could then start asking more meaningful questions about our existence that would truly be fascinating.
all that i am waiting for is the verifiable objective evidence that gives credence to believe in such things!
i am inherantly open minded! but my open minded ness has a limit.. that limit is that whatever claim is propsed, must have evidence working for it.
how does believing in God helps the devil gain power?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqua Luna
i mean i think the faith in our hearts strengthens our humanity by giving us hope to go on.
but if we lose faith, we give up easily and when all left materialistic things with no faith, people depress faster, they have no patience and maybe suicide cuz they feel like nothing worth to live for.
maybe, the devil will be powerful if he knew we don't have faith in our hearts. He uses our emotions and our old pains to make us weak and make us lose any tiny bit of faith in our hearts.
Naw...don't you know that the devil is human?Quote:
Originally Posted by sweet sista
He can take away your food and water and shelter if you don't submit to him.
That's what I mean when I say the whiteman is the devil...he likes it when you have faith cuz then you ain't relying on yourself to change the condition of yourself and your people.
You waiting for some abstract 'spook god' to answer your prayers while the devil slaugheters your seeds (babies).
Ya gotta wake up if you really love Allah...Wake up!
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Originally Posted by sweet sista
these are the key words right hereQuote:
Originally Posted by sweet sista
You Think that its this way - you believe - you don't Know - you Believe -
so when someone who knows what the lie is and who it was told by, Believers cover their eyes and ears because they wanna continue to have faith in a lie - they are comfortable believeing a lie -
Peace Aqua, on this last sentence don't you think that it's possible that God actually resides in and out of you? The thought reminds me of a Taoist saying I've read somewhere that says that an empty vessel is filled with space.Quote:
But the people who go after and actually got all the money - Western society (europeans)...been in rule for thousands of years.
Think big my sistah, think big...we in a state of mental slavery - like bondage, and I don't know if you Black or not but the truth is - everybody has been tricked.
Ya gotta know...cause that belief that God is something outside of yourself helps the devil gain power
Think about the difference between how long DNA has been at work and when we found it. It simply takes our a knowledge a long time to catch up with what is already been fact since life's intial conception. Don't you think it's possible to be a completely rational scientist and at the same time be someone who has faith in what can not be absolutely proven? What about love or even emotions in general? Could we say beyond a shadow of doubt that love exists? How would we be certain?Quote:
all the time.. see thats the thing.. my stance is rational.. meaning that it is potentially false!
all rational and truly logical claims and stances must have the potential of being false.
i would truly love the idea and concept of a supernatural realm and an invisible god. such a thing would truly be amazing and fascinating. as a scientist i would also love that idea because that would mean that the natural world around us isnt all that we think it is.. (this would only add fuel to the burning natural curiosity all scietists have!) if it was somehow proven that there is a supernatural realm and aspet to life, we could then start asking more meaningful questions about our existence that would truly be fascinating.
all that i am waiting for is the verifiable objective evidence that gives credence to believe in such things!
i am inherantly open minded! but my open minded ness has a limit.. that limit is that whatever claim is propsed, must have evidence working for it.
What if the devil was something a little bit different? What if the devil was the lust that lurks deep within the minds and hearts of human? The thing is that men die right? But ideas of dominance, of superiority, of greed, of power. These ideas may never die and if they don't so the devil stays alive with them.Quote:
Naw...don't you know that the devil is human?
Right on Aqua! That's real right there. Words without actions are hollow. I believe God gives us the strength possible to rise above any situation but She's not going to do it for us. He did that when He showed us the way to live a good life. Even if someone doesn't believe the same in neither the bible nor the quran, grasping their underlying themes I think can still make someone a better person. Which is what I think religon is really here to do in the first place. If your existence does not make the human world a better place then you should probably take a look inside. And if you think it does, then please continue whatever it is you're doing, however you think is best. peaceQuote:
He can take away your food and water and shelter if you don't submit to him.
That's what I mean when I say the whiteman is the devil...he likes it when you have faith cuz then you ain't relying on yourself to change the condition of yourself and your people.
You waiting for some abstract 'spook god' to answer your prayers while the devil slaugheters your seeds (babies).
Ya gotta wake up if you really love Allah...Wake up!
Nope...cuz I'm the physical manifestaion of God...Faith without works is DEAD!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Unseen
The body is what creates the works and the body is what shows and proves the works of God..."god" don't mean shit if I don't physically carry out his will...
The God and the Devil are only human beings who deal with positivity or else they let negativity take over and hurt others-
I am God.... And I am a positve atribute of Allah - I'm all about teaching the Truth...nothing else.
Damn, Eric...you be on the right track!...It's much appreciated - word!Quote:
Originally Posted by Eric Unseen
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Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
you can't get enough of those arguments, can you?!
hi sunny,
yeah ok i confess that i believe. i'm guilty of that crime. but that doesn't mean by any chance that it's a lie or an old myth that doesn't stand on a concrete proof.
if it's a lie, why do i want to believe in it?Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
i mean this is not fair, you consider any sort of believing and having faith is a trick or it has to be believing in a lie and never think of the possiblity that it maybe contains truth and knowledge.
i understand why some maybe have faith in something maybe a way to keep themselves away from the truth cuz somehow truth may hurts and maybe it's difficult and new but i think there is a god and god will never leave his creation if they want to know the truth. so when we try to reach for God, he reaches for us. but by kicking the faith outta ones's heart. how can you know the truth? and how can Allah take your hand if you don't want to, claiming that you can know everything yourself. this is unjust first and foremost for your own sake!