your interpretation of the sodom story is flat out wrong, build with some jewish scholars who can break down the language for you
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your interpretation of the sodom story is flat out wrong, build with some jewish scholars who can break down the language for you
I'm don't know any jewish scholars so I'd be interested to hear what you know on the subject. Because of the many translations and revisions I'm in doubt that the words have completely retained their original meaning.Quote:
Originally Posted by froth
It's not my interpretation. Read about Lot, nephew of Abraham, and you'll see what I'm talking about.Quote:
Originally Posted by froth
Yo I didnt mean to create a thread like this one.. I just really basically wanted someones definition to the word religion and what it means to them...
Yes I know I asked who then created GOD.. only because I am pretty sure thought centuries that question has been in the air.....
I am however very interested in everyones opinion on the topic though...
I know we always dont agree with one another ... but do remember.. we all bleed the same and we all brothers and sisters.....
but.. let me keep reading... Peace
I'm not very smart, but I do want to answer your question. Sort of. The answer is in the dictionary, that's my bible. It says:Quote:
Originally Posted by MsRzaRecTaH
re·li·gion http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/premium.gif http://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g...una/thinsp.pnghttp://cache.lexico.com/g/d/speaker.gif /rɪˈlɪdʒhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g...una/thinsp.pngən/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ri-lij-uhhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g...una/thinsp.pngn] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation –noun 1.a set of beliefs concerning the cause, nature, and purpose of the universe, esp. when considered as the creation of a superhuman agency or agencies, usually involving devotional and ritual observances, and often containing a moral code governing the conduct of human affairs. 2.a specific fundamental set of beliefs and practices generally agreed upon by a number of persons or sects: the Christian religion; the Buddhist religion. 3.the body of persons adhering to a particular set of beliefs and practices: a world council of religions. 4.the life or state of a monk, nun, etc.: to enter religion. 5.the practice of religious beliefs; ritual observance of faith. 6.something one believes in and follows devotedly; a point or matter of ethics or conscience: to make a religion of fighting prejudice. 7.religions, Archaic. religious rites. 8.Archaic. strict faithfulness; devotion: a religion to one's vow. —Idiom9.get religion, Informal. a.to acquire a deep conviction of the validity of religious beliefs and practices. b.to resolve to mend one's errant ways: The company got religion and stopped making dangerous products.
[Origin: 1150–1200; ME religioun (< OF religion) < L religiōn- (s. of religiō) conscientiousness, piety, equiv. to relig(āre) to tie, fasten (re- re- + ligāre to bind, tie; cf. ligament) + -iōn- -ion; cf. relyhttp://cache.lexico.com/dictionary/g...una/thinsp.png]
That's what I believe.
I think she wants the etymology, not the definition.
i define it as a code of life. it's something you eat sleep dream and breath. it is my foundation. it's something extremley intamite and personal. it's also therapy and empowerment. it's many many things i could go on all day.
No shit. To me they're the same. Maybe it's because I don't have a religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by Os3y3ris
If your slapping children in the mouth, your abusing them. A child's attitude is a reflection on the parent. In this case, the mother shouldn't be such a filthy whore, then the child would act right. The parents are the ones that should be slapping themselves for using profanity around the kid.Quote:
Again, there's the parent/child relationship to consider. A person who sees a child being punished may think the child is being abused, but if the observer were to find out that the child called it's mother a flithy whore, then common sense would say that the child deserved to be slapped in the mouth for discipline.
A wrathful God kills. Who makes the rules? Your refering to rules made by man, exspecially in the Sodom and Gomorrah story.Quote:
A wrathful God? No, a just God. Why set forth rules if there are no consequences to breaking them??
I don't really care to research this at the moment, but thanks for the rescource.Quote:
Yes, the story of Sodom & Gomorrah was about homosexuals and their decline to leave such practices alone.
There are remains of Sodom & Gomorrah, I've seen them. The reason why the remains are still there, is for anyone who doubts, and for anyone who believes, to investigate for themselves.
If you feel the need to investigate this for yourself, go to http://www.arkdiscovery.com/sodom_&_gomorrah.htm where Ron Wyatt, an archaeologist, has these pictures for you to see for yourself.
Did you really feel like you had to make this comment? I understood what you meant. Again, why do you guys think you need to teach me English? I've taken enough English courses in college to never have to dwell on the subject unless I want to.Quote:
In the case of this, clearly you mis-understood what was typed. Instead of seeing, "A just God", you saw, "Just a God.", which is niether here nor there in the long run, but, since these stories, topics and principles relate to the scriptures, it would be wise to think in the same vien.
As far as thinking in scriptures, all I have to say is, your scriptures don't apply to me. I have no need for scriptures written by men a long time ago, in another country, in another language. That's your chosen path, and it's all good.
I finished high school in christian private school, where we were required to study scriptures daily. Then I was interested, and I studied scriptures with Jesuit teachers that would break everything down in the context it was used back then. Now I could careless what's written in the bible. No disrespect to the religion, it's just not for me.
Sometimes we need to deal with each other harshly so people don't get out of control.Quote:
Originally Posted by Os3y3ris
But, people have need to make their own choices. If it's a decision against God, and you believe in an afterlife, then you'll have to answer to God.
If you don't believe in God, or an afterlife, then there always be people that will deal with you too.
So, regardless of what anyone believes, people need to show each other basic courtsey and respect.
interesting.... but . .aight Im going to have to open a new thread for this one then... be right back
I disagree. People WANT to make their own choices. They don't need to and they don't. Trying to do so is like twisting the key on a windup toy to remove it from its back. Free will is an illusion.Quote:
But, people have need to make their own choices. If it's a decision against God, and you believe in an afterlife, then you'll have to answer to God.
How? Free will is the greatest gift(if you believie in God) we have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Os3y3ris
or
Free will is the greatest evolutionary step(if you believe in evolution) that man has made.
free will and self-consciousness go hand in hand
we have free will to experiment and make mistakes and see why it is best to align with (insert word for the most high / nature / the universe) in order to avoid pain and torment
and then once we learn how things work - we have free will to create whatever we want to create with what we learned
freedom within limitations is still freedom
even tho it is technically a trap
(lol mindfuck)
Free will is something to strive for, not something we actually have. In striving for it, you're satisfying the basic impulses programmed into you. If you were free, you wouldn't bother.