Oh so you do want my beautifulcock? Well I don't swing that way but maybe you can ask jasper whats up? I hear he's into 10 year old boys, which you clearly are. Grow up homophobe. It's 2007.
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Oh so you do want my beautifulcock? Well I don't swing that way but maybe you can ask jasper whats up? I hear he's into 10 year old boys, which you clearly are. Grow up homophobe. It's 2007.
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Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Man, if you wanna talk shit, kid, learn how to. Lackluster at best. Besides you were the one getting upset over the internet bc someone might of made a gay joke at you. So that actually makes you the homophobe doesn't it? Not funny and not bright....you fit in perfectly here....
I'm not upset at all. If you like attacking people you don't even know for voicing opinions contrary to yours that's fine. It really makes you look like a real intelligent person. You are the one who started with me remember?
I in no way was attacking what you said, just voicing an opinion. You deciced to jab at me, cool, whatever. At a staggering 124 posts you must know everything about everyone on here. I'm sorry I even questioned your omnipotence on here. I will leave you now so you can go back to thinking everyone else is wrong and your opinion is the only one that matters.
I STILL cannot understand why some people do not like Fish Scale.
because he didn't do anything new on Fishscale..usually he did
Ghost fell off the plateau we raised him too. In our minds. We had him on level 8 Super Mario Bros. fighting King Koopa. And he tumbled back to the warpzones of level 1-2.Quote:
Originally Posted by *Robbydigital*
He did Underwater. The beat just became boring after a bit. Although I did do the collage of the lyrics. The other songs on the album relied heavily on Ghost his story telling and back to the coke dictionary again. Now that was something we left behind. So we thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by wera
Noel,
Could I be that you grew older. And Ghostface went some other way. So that in that perspectivbe Ghost may still make good hiphop for people who are used to todays standards. We grew up on a different Ghost. With different sounds.
It's weird how noel completely abandons what he brings up to begin with. First he compares Ghost to all these mainstream hip-hop rappers (who go completely nameless until he mentions G-Unit), then gets asked by more than one person to give some examples and then he's all "Man, shit, I don't MEAN JUST LIKE G-Unit, I mean just stuff that comes on the radio." Let's not even forget the fact that, by his own admission, he doesn't listen to the radio (which should null and void his point all together), and then gets called out AGAIN for comparing Ghostface to mainstream rappers and goes all "Man, shit, I hate how you guys twist my words! I don't MEAN all mainstream rappers, just shit that comes on the radio." Rinse, lather, repeat. Furthermore, according to him, the only "relevant" points are those who manage to follow is circular arguments and co-sign his nonsense. I'm all for different opinions, but those co-signing his point of view should at least help him form an argument that isn't so circular in nature. Having an opinion, as an adult, means you can discuss and elaborate on why you feel the way you feel in a reasonable manner. Not everyone has to, or is going to, agree with you, but there is a level of reason to it that can't be denied. The fact he's completely unopen to differing viewpoints makes him sound like that kid in the park that says he's, "King of the Universe." When asked why he feels that way he's all "'Cause I feel like it, my opinion is just as good as yours." O...K.
I'm beginning to think him venting his "opinion" is more than likely just a shock thread that we have all fell for. He says the same things over and over again, and then doesn't back anything HE brings up.
Ironman and Supreme clientele are his best.
IMO More Fish is better than Fishscale...i feel that some songs become boring...(like Shakey Dog) on FS after few listens
This time was well spent argumenting your own opinion...Quote:
Originally Posted by hide1998
How come everytime I try to read into the pro's for Ghost, all I read is internet rants?
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Noel,
It definitely plays a part in it. Considering I find almost no new hip hop appealing it is undeniable that it plays some part. But seeing how many people seem to feel the same or a similar way to me tells me that it’s also got a lot to do with the music Ghost is putting out.Quote:
Could I be that you grew older. And Ghostface went some other way. So that in that perspectivbe Ghost may still make good hiphop for people who are used to todays standards. We grew up on a different Ghost. With different sounds.
Hide1998, I’m gonna do something new here and refuse to repeat myself on the commercial/G Unit thing. If you want an explanation for that you can find it in any number of my posts. Consider this though…If you didn’t listen to commercial radio or watch music video shows, would you still hear commercial hip hop in your day to day life? Some people in this thread don’t seem to be able to accept the idea that a discussion can be held speaking in general terms. Do you really think my quoting a few cliché Ghost verses is gonna prove anything? It would be exactly the same as you naming a few Ghost tracks that DON’T have cliché lyrics. It wouldn’t prove a thing. We’re speaking in general terms here and if you don’t like it then find another thread. It’s my thread and I set the intended direction of it, which was to discuss Ghost in general. Yes I could quote some cliché Ghost lyrics. Why don’t I?
- It wouldn’t prove a thing.
- I couldn’t be bothered.
- I’m not trying to convince anybody of anything. Just sharing my observations.
- The only reason I would do it is because a few individuals are demanding it. But those same individuals could and would complain about how it doesn’t prove anything if I did do it. And rightly so too, because it wouldn’t prove anything.
- Digging up lyrics would take effort I’d rather avoid. And why would I be putting that effort in? Because a couple of people on here have asked me to. But I actually don’t give half a shit if these people don’t support my opinions, or think not quoting lyrics invalidates my argument. It just doesn’t bother me. Like I’ve said many times, I was just sharing my observations here and seeing if other people felt similar. I’m not trying to convince anybody of anything.
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The fact he's completely unopen to differing viewpoints
I’m really not sure what warrants such a suggestion as this.
How come everytime I try to read into the negatives for Ghost, all I read is internet rants?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
See how simple that was?
Again, in my prior post I specifically mentioned how he (noel) continuously mentioned the same points again and again and again that HE (not other people) brought up to begin with. When asked, in one form or another, to elaborate or give examples of how that was the case, he backs out time and time again.
If that somehow translates to nothing more than an internet rant, then noel's posts are surely worse than that.....
Or, then again, you could be one those people who co-sign everything noel is saying which would make you, as noel himself put, someone with something "relevant" to say.
GZA is the greatest MC ever! Why? *sigh* I can't be bothered to explain why, he just is. Elaborating on that with some examples of why I feel the way I do, as an adult, would be pointless. Trying is the first step to failure anyway. No one would agree with me, so what's the point. Don't ask me why, I won't expand on it. I'm just stating my opinion.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel411
Macy Gray is the worst singer ever! Why? *sigh* I can't be bothered to explain why, she just is. Elaborating on that with some examples of why I feel the way I do, as an adult, would be pointless. Trying is the first step to failure anyway. No one would agree with me, so what's the point? Don't ask me why, I won't expand on it. I'm just stating my opinion.
Jimi Hendrix is the greatest guitar player ever! Why? *sigh* I can't be bothered to explain why, he just is. Elaborating on that with some examples of why I feel the way I do, as an adult, would be pointless. Trying is the first step to failure anyway. No one would agree with me, so what's the point. Don't ask me why, I won't expand on it. I'm just stating my opinion.
You know what, I think I'm starting to get noel afterall.
Why do you have to be so fuckin' ridiculous? Are you actually trying to pretend you don't see the absurdity of that post?
Let's go back to my first post. I said Ghost has lost appeal and his last few albums are boring and average. This is my OPINION. There is nothing to back up. Do I have to prove I really have this opinion? Ok, none of his albums since SC has made me want to continue listening to them after the first few listens, and very little he has done on any of those albums has impressed me. Can you accept that? Or are you gonna continue to come up with absurd bullshit about how I'm not allowed to say things like that?
The other thing I said is that a lot of his lyrics on recent albums are the same as what other commercial artists are writing. Hmmm, ok, this is more than just an opinion, so how can I prove it? Well, let's see. I could just find lyrics from a handful of Ghost songs and also a few songs by other commercial artists, of a similar nature, and post them here for comparison. But wait a second, anybody with the slightest bit of sense can see that that really wouldn't prove a thing. I'm sure even an utter fucking idiot would realise that you could do the same thing with almost any artist. Damn, there goes that idea. I guess I'd really have to dig up a solid portion of Ghost's recent lyrics and find a good many tracks from several commercial artists with similar lyrics to actually prove my point. But wait a second, I really couldn't be fucked doing that just to make a point to a couple of guys who can't accept the fact that someone doesn't like Ghost. After all, I was only making an observation to see how other people felt about it. I never considered that anybody would be so troubled by it that they would hassle me with bullshit non-stop, forcing me to repeat myself time and time again.
Do you understand my logic?
nobody i mean nobody writes like ghost, if u can prove that i'd like to see it. 50 cent couldn't even come close to writing something as profoundly absurd as underwater.