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Good ears, I can hear what you're talking about. I don't know of it is the Wendy Rene sample but it certainly sounds like it. It repeats throughout the song, you can hear it a bit better during Nathaniel's chorusQuote:
Originally Posted by human torch
^^ Yeah that's a really good catch. It's very brief and really low in the mix but it could well be that sample. Don't think I would have ever noticed that if it hadn't been pointed out.
Peace!
Just had "Ron O'Neal" on n was sitting close to speaker. Definitely caught the vocal sample. It's from "Black Widow 2". Thanx because I too would probably not have picked up on this except maybe with headphones. Peace
^^ Yeah RZA used that same track for the samples in Tearz, Stimulation, Black Widow 2 and now Ron O'Neal too.
The original singer, Wendy Rene, just died three days ago. RIP.
Peace!
I always thought Deck produced black widow 2
^ Deck produced the first "Black Widow" on 'In Stereo', one of his best beats for sure
Yeah, dope Portishead sample.Quote:
Originally Posted by claaa7
damn to this day i always assumed that was a RZA beat. one of my fav beats of all time
This album is wack. Necklace, Pioneer the frontier & 40th street black are the keepers. Retire. I'll always be happy with the clans legacy. We still have the classics to pop in. These dudes sound burnt out on the Mic and RZA has lost touch with his roots. Sad thing is Rza knows the Ringz project is probably 10x better therefore we won't hear it. Tricked him into making one copy. Lol
I tried to like it but i just cant listen to :
Miraclles
Never Give Up
ABT
Fam Reunion
minus those album is fine lol
I think it's dope.
40th street black/we will fight is so ill.
Preachers daughter sucks balls...it's so bad but the rest of the album is tight.
The title track is legit....when was the last time you heard Raekwon spit such a dope verse? With an actual flow and not just one big never ending bar? Probably molasses on Shaolin VS Wu Tang...but he's been pretty poor before and after the period....Gorgeous, his verse was dope...and the heart gently weeps was also incredible...my point is, rae is bad at choosing beats....but RZA can make him shit where is flow is on point. CL2 his best verses and flows were on RZA beats.
The skits on ABT are dope too...
Beat for pioneer the frontier is dope and necklace.
Drums throughout this album are ridiculous with the exception of the allah math beat.
U-GOD spits flames. INS would have been one of the GOAT if he got an album with decent beats.
I also enjoyed the album, the live instrumentation was a breath of fresh air in a world dominated by poppy music. I like the maturity of the album, that fact that they sounded like grown men spreading knowledge based on experience was a positive for me.
Rza definitely experimented with diferent sounds, but as they say "nothing risked, nothing gained". I appreciate going outside the box a bit, I mean thats what made 36 chambers such an iconic classic. While this is not any new experimentation, I enjoyed listening to the Wu mixed with some soul, funk and disney (lol).
Contrary to popular opinion I think "Miracle" was a good song, one of my favs on the album honestly. Especially the mixing they did with the vocals at the end of it, gave it a great feel right after Ghost's heartbreaking verse.
I did not enjoy "Preacher's Daughter", not saying the lyrics weren't on point but more the fact that I knew that these were 40+ year old men saying these things. Might grow on me later, but for now, no.
A great album overall, some duds, but thats to be expected. It definitely has a few months of replay value, and thats all I need from the Wu at this point in time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/p02fn8w3
Rza interview with dj semtex 1 xtra
Finally got this album in the post and bumped it last nite with a few beers. Only got as far as the second verse on Preachers Daughter but this was my first opinion on some if the tracks. The beat usually is what I notice first few times so the verses haven't stuck with me yet:
Ruckus In B-Minor : pretty dope track, drums are a bit annoying if they were toned down a little I would enjoy it more.
Felt : Can't really remember it
40th Street : I was expecting a train wreck, it's bit that bad, hook is pretty bad but the beat isn't awful
Mistaken Identity : Awful. I replayed this 3 times coz I heard people liking it and I couldn't understand why. That beat is fuckin awful wtf and the hook is really bad. Unlistenable coz of the beat IMO. Haven't really listened to the lyrics.
Hold The Heater : Now that's a dope beat. Song sounds pretty fuckin dope.
Crushed Egos : Another pretty dope track. Not as good as the previous but def a decent track.
Keep Watch : It's such a shame it had that gay singing coz the beat on this is a straight banger. The singing isn't as bad as I remember and doesn't ruin the song that much so I'll put up with it.
Miracle : What. The. Fuck. Once the rapping starts it's not bad at all but that is the gayest, over bearing, melodramatic singing i have ever heard on a hiphop album and almost makes the whole track unlistenable. What the fuck were they thinking.
Preachers Daughter : Yeah, pretty bad. Not terribly awful like Mistaken Identity but pretty bad.
I'll listen to the rest later. This is the most underwhelming Wu tang I have ever heard. Def sounds worse than 8 Diagrams IMO, at least on that you had Campfire, Rushing Elephants, Wolves, and a few others that are Wu bangers imo, Hold The Heater is the only one I've heard so far that might be a Wu banger.
Very nice interview. Thanks for posting.Quote:
Originally Posted by ian barclay
Miracle (apart from ghost's verse) & Wu Tang Reunion have to be the two gayest and chringewhorthy hiphop tracks I have ever heard. Holy fuck, how anyone can listen to then without blushing is beyond me
'Miracle" is dope. Killer beat and all 4 MC's sound nice. I understand hook isnt for everybody. But get over it. Do people check for lyrics anymore? Peace
Anyone can do a version of miracle without chorus?
What ruins Miracle is the end part with the rock guy singing and the beat changing. Everything before that is fine. Isnt they why we love the Wu? Because they always bring something different to the table. Who else would have recorded Wu-Forever and then placed Dog Shit between them? Only the Wu would, so quit your moaning, Miracle is classic Wu in that its different, dope verses, 4th Disciple with another banger, just a shame about the end part but hey again, that's Wu.
It's a bit rough and a five minute bodge but there you go man!Quote:
Originally Posted by truemath4th
enjoy :Y
http://www.filedropper.com/08miracle2
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Quote:
Originally Posted by truemath4th
Anyone can do a version of miracle without chorus?
It's a bit rough and a five minute bodge but there you go man!
enjoy
http://www.filedropper.com/08miracle2
Thannk for the answer but there is no file on your link
I can't believe people are still complaining about Miracle, I know it has that eminem or kanye radio type of chorus but the song is still a 10 out of 10.
BTW the chick who sang the chorus Tatum Miranda is hot
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they have it hereQuote:
Originally Posted by truemath4th
http://www.datpiff.com/Wu-Tang-Clan-...pe.671747.html
That chick is hot af.
Yeah verses aren't bad on miracle but not great, Ghosts is the only one that's dope. Beat is average at best but holy fuck that singing and the over the top, over produced strings in the background during the hook are just awful. I'm embarrassed listening to it, who the fuck woulda thought you could be embarrassed listening to a Wu album. The end of it is truly awful as well.
And I don't care that you can edit parts out, if we all done that with songs and albums the way we wanted to hear them they'd all be classics. This is the way they WANTED us to hear it so this is the way it should be judged. Not "oh ya it's classic once you remove the hook", that's meant to be there.
Wu Tang Reunion is a whole different story of embarrassment and chringewhorthy though. What the holy fuck where they thinking with that song.
haha this shit sounds nothing like a Kanye or eminem radio cut. even they wouldn't condone that gay singing. it sucks because the beat is probably the best on the album and ghosts verse is up there with the best on the album.
if there was none of that gay singing shit it'd be the best song on the album by far. can even leave the rock shit at the end it didn't bother me half as much as that other singing.
I'd like to see what Memory Man could do if he was given all of the acapellas. If that guy is still producing stuff.
I don't even mind the majority of the beats, their not classic but their pretty dope, I.e Felt has a dope beat but i hate the concept behind the song, Keep Watcb has a dope beat and while the hook isn't bad that's what let's it down. There is something on nearly every song letting it down, apart from a few that are downright terrible.
I still think Mistaken Identity has the worst beat and combined with the hook make it almost unlistenable for me.
But if it's not the best letting the song down it's the hook, or the lyrics or the concept etc. there are too many half backed ideas that just don't come together.
Kanye would have had Dwele or R.Kelly or Rihanna or Kid Cudi or John Legend or whatever sing it, and it would have sounded GOOD.
Eminem would have had Skylar Grey, Kobe, Sia or Liz Rodriguez sing it, and it would have sounded OKAY.
In either case, it would not have been dripping with Disney cheesiness.
Don't really care how attractive the singers are.
It wouldn't matter who the fuck Kanye or Eminem had to sing the Miracle hook it would still be some Disney bullshit
You've got to remember dude, some of these Wu fans like bumping this shit in the whip wearing lip gloss and skinny jeans.. :rQuote:
Originally Posted by The Hound
Can't even download this.. anyone have it from another source?Quote:
Originally Posted by mAlAkAz
What a massive upgrade from that Thea beast.Quote:
Originally Posted by mAlAkAz
I noticed that she recorded the hook for this in October, must've been one of RZA's post production ideas...
yeah i'd put that thru post production tooQuote:
Originally Posted by mAlAkAz
Damn she bad lol