Agreed. I always thought Rza, Choco, and Bess were the best combination. Choco did killer work on Supreme Clientele, Ghost Dog, The W, and WAR, among others.Quote:
Originally Posted by SL33
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Agreed. I always thought Rza, Choco, and Bess were the best combination. Choco did killer work on Supreme Clientele, Ghost Dog, The W, and WAR, among others.Quote:
Originally Posted by SL33
Wow, respectfully says, interesting opinion! Seems many here dont feel that verse. Does no one see it as a more xrated & raw version of "Tearz"?Quote:
Originally Posted by human torch
PEACE
It was mostly Bess... absolute majority.Quote:
Originally Posted by ta12113
]this is my guy right here. lovee this dude. i'l never forget him recording some of my dudes i sent his way FOR FREE, then proceeds to go to their crib to make sure everything was on par. he is definitely a stand up solid bro. big ups to cappa too for assisting those bros with free verses toQuote:
Originally Posted by SL33
That's it?
After been able to really listen to the album its ok but nothing special. To call it supreme clientele 2 didnt really help either. As someone stated it seems more of a mixtape than a album. And also it seems its not a focused album just a handful of songs thrown togheter. 5/10. Some good rhymes and beats. But this is not something Ill listen to very often.
Glad he ain't go the AI route like Raekwon. Raekwon killed his album rollout with that AI shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by soob
Did Bess get credited for all his work on those albums?Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
I still rock the M12 album from time to time. I love the sonics on that album.
RZA was executive producer on Masta Killas ‘Balance’ album.. Well it was better than this shit, but also slightly underwhelming IMO.Quote:
Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN
Dope album, it got a funky/old school vibe- "Windows" is insane. Other favorite joints: Iron Man, Georgy Porgy, Beat Box, Rap Kingpin, Love Me Anymore, Candyland, You Ma Friend
i do respect the throwback he's trying to do back to the late 80's and the intentional mixtape feel with the dj. makes for a fun listen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Contraband
and there's alot of styles on here.
i don't understand how anyone could dislike, Candyland, Georgy Porgy, You ma Friend and The Zoom. They are for sure some of best Ghost songs in years. they beat anything on Set The Tone
I’m very surprised at the lukewarm to even cold reaction to the song with Nas, which for me is the gem. It’s not classic Wu for sure and has a lot of Westcoast flavor to it and I absolutely love it.
Who the fuck is Ty boogie and why is he yelling on every track
lmfaoQuote:
Originally Posted by cunt
get accustomed to him> you gonna hear more yelling in future projects LMAO
Shit I’ll be editing him out of everything
That quote was from April last year about Ghostface’s many business pursuits.Quote:
Originally Posted by mrvaughn
Today I saw him talking about his pubic hair preference in this Whoo Kid interview from 3 days ago. (Starts at 12:08)…
https://youtu.be/RTMrl7TrGHQ?si=BVe8x_pphTKArEgG
I think I might have inspired the God.
Sample 420 needed a RZA verse.
The more i listen to this album, the more i realise wu fans will never be satisfied. this album is great.Quote:
Originally Posted by grt05
I’ve listened to it 14 times now. Actually put it over Rae’s album which I liked a lot.Quote:
Originally Posted by grt05
Can’t even be mad now at it being called Supreme Clientele 2, as it made me pay more critical attention to it than I might have done otherwise.
Guess the name did its job in that respect, and I’ll not be the only one.
Also, I'd rather have one Clyde Smith skit for the sake of old times than five senseless ones.
I take FishScale over this shit as the legitimate follow up to Supreme Clientele.
This feels more like Pretty Toney 2 than SC2, but it’s still good.
Dude puts out a lazy collection of scraps and calls it the sequel to his most famous and revered album to try to get money from his fans, and u expect people to be satisfied with it?Quote:
Originally Posted by grt05
Fuck me. Ghost could put out a statement saying he fucking hates his fans and they're a pack out of sorry simps and cucks, and they'd still defend him.
It's fucking crazy how he never gets held accountable for his shit.
Yeah? Well, you know, that's just like uh, your opinion, man.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel411
[Verse 3: Superb]
One of the illest since Magic Johnson, no disrespect
"Superb like Bird and Magic" is ghost making a reference to Superb?
this.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kutman
Oh stop crying, baby. It's a really fucking good album and it's getting critical praise all over. Get over it.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel411
So that was a disappointment.
On no level is this a great album that people will regularly play years from now. Fuck that shit.
Yes, I had hope for this being something good. But this sounded like a cheap fucking mixtape that you'd get for free in 2003 with ordering an album on hiphopsite.com. Shame on me for giving Ghost some sort of credit after years of disappointing releases. (I have to say, I did enjoy 12RTD & Sour Soul. The production on those records is solid.)
Like some already mentioned, in a unique feat, Ghost as a writer has devolved. This is some of the most uninteresting and uninspired lines & verses I have heard in some time. The amount of bitches on his dick that gets thrown around and hammers he has makes it all so fucking cringe. It is as if we are listening to that one creepy uncle that tries his hardest to be a gangster and pimp, while we all know he has not gotten laid since the 80's, nor gotten into a real fight. All the while he neglecting his actual kids, and clearly has issues trying to grow up.
Next to that, you got his voice. A review of Emperors Clothes addressed it best when they mentioned you can clearly hear the years of touring have done him no favors. On this mixtape it is even more apparent with the combination of poor mixing and mastering. Instead of complaining about everything, and taking every schtick Wiggs throws at him, he should have been living sober and working on vocal lessons. Maybe even go out side of his comfort zone to get some material to write about.
When I first saw the tracklist, I had to double check if this was real. It looked like somebody uploaded a draft of working titles. Just must be kidding me if you want to pass this off for an album. Lazy & uninspired. 4th Disciple is a poor attempt at the recreation of Impossible and should have stayed in the vault untill it was fleshed out as a song. The facts that it was not even properly titles speaks volumes towards the quality of the whole things, as well as the respect towards the listener.
The skits are peak end of 90's: bloated and unwanted cringe. from the intro of Redman that feels completely out of place on an album. But would make sense on the mixtape of an unknown DJ circa 2003. The pause thing really takes the crown, because everybody here knows it is not satire. Ghost is not making fun of himself. Though that would explain a lot with this release.
The whole thing feels like the result of an AI attempt at recreating Supreme Clientele without understanding what makes it good or why it resonated.
Over and over Ghost has stated that he does not like working with deadlines. If this is the result, as a label and a fan, I would not give him any money untill there were some proper milestones set. It's like you are at a restaurant, the chef will prepare some marvellous shit to make your mouth water. You wait for 15 years, and you got served a fucking stale ass one sloppy pickle flat as hamburger. And some of y'all are swallowing that with pride? Nah chief. He named this shit completely consciously SUPREME CLIENTELE 2. I am not going to a movie called GOODFELLAS 2, and expect to see a crappy version of Boondock Saints. I expect something that lives up to that name.
We can divulge into features and producers and more. But it is pointless. Ghost came to bat and striked out looking. He is an old head stuck in arrested development looking for an golden age that is long gone and passed by. Instead of adapting, he is grasping to the few thinsg he knows from that era. Reusing them over and over for the passed 25 years, untill there is almost nothing left. And breaking himself in the process with that because he refuses to adapt. If anything, this mixtape is showcasing that struggle of Ghost.
At this point I am just completely flabbergasted as to how Kendrick got that one ghost verse out of him.
HAHHAHAHAHAHAQuote:
Originally Posted by TSA
I remember being part of the RZA discussion back in the 8 Diagrams days. People had high hopes for that Ghost supervised Clan album. (We only got that Rae thing Shaoling vs Wu in the end.) How the turn tables. Knowing more now, his influence is really missed in a lot of releases. Same for the recording engineers. Not saying I want the old sound, let me get this clear. Rather I'd have proper sound and production. Lately, a lot is just so straight forward it takes steps back in time.
These dudes on here are losers. That's why I stopped posting on here as often as I used to about 10 years ago. They're never satisfied and it's quite clear they're one of the main reasons the Wu members never messed with this site. Ghost just dropped an album full of some top notch MCing and dope beats that is being praised by the entire music community and these dudes are acting like it's some weedplate. Album is at least a 4/5.Quote:
Originally Posted by grt05
HAHAHAHHAHAHQuote:
Originally Posted by WuFizzy
Woodrow the Basehead just showed up. Who had that on his bingo card?
I'll give you this though, yes a lot are never satisfied. But this was just crap. Don't kid yourself. There is much better music out there. Don't support this. I think it is a better invesment to just buy the Killah Coffee.
Hilarious.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
You can't find any legitimate source shitting on the album. Not one. High praise across the board. I guess everybody is Woodrow the basehead except the losers like you on here shitting on it ;)
For me it was mostly it didnt feel like an album. It needed some sequncing and a better flow of the album overall. Rhymes and flows I have nothing against.
It was mostly some beats and as I stated before. It didnt feel focused. He said he mixed old and new recordings and it shows. Its going in to many directions. Supreme clientele was a focused album recorded more for a purpose. This felt like tracks just put on a album. Its not bad but for me I dont see me banging it to much.
My source are my ears, heart and soul. All of them begged me to put on either Ironman or Supreme Clientele. They did not need a 'legitimate source' as you call it to guide them to what is music, and what is crap.Quote:
Originally Posted by WuFizzy
My source is my ears, heart and soul as well. What makes your shitty opinion more valid than anyone else's? You are a random hater on a site dedicated to rappers alot of you guys made a long history of hating on. Alot of you guys, not all, wanted this project to be bad just cause Ghost named it SC2 and just can't take it that it actually came out dope. It's really good and nothing you say can change the large majority of people I know or see online minds about it. It's the best shit Wu has came out with in awhile. Deal with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
90% of people hatin on this album right now will be makin a post 5 years from now about how they "slept on SC2".
It's a dope album and 100% the best wu member album since cl2 imo (unless I'm forgetting something).
I loved SvW but I don't find myself skippin any songs on this and I did on SvW. Yea this prob ain't considered vintage wu but if I wanted vintage wu then I'd just play a vintage wu album.
Dont even reply to me fa real. They just locked my pops up again last night man. I might just come outside and smack the shit outta one of yall, u heard?! I might just stab one of yall so I can chill wit my pops man.
FUCK YA LIFE
Thank you. Alot of these dudes on here are losers that I'm pretty sure are fuming because Ghost named the album SC2.Quote:
Originally Posted by trinking
And keep ya head up and don't do nothing drastic. Hope your pops is out soon.
Tried to listen it again today. By track 3 I had to turn it off and put Rae’s new album on. Sorry Ghost, I tried….