Ever had this happen to you? He pushed preflop
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Ever had this happen to you? He pushed preflop
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I really need to quit Full Tilt and move to a different room
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That happened to me a few days ago but with Q's.
people don't believe it, but that happens to me EVERY SINGLE DAY
Well yeah bad beats happen to me 2 everyday but not like that, it was 3-4 bet preflop before he shoved, I mean I keep raising, and I dunno...people can't seem to fold Kings whereas I have no problems with it... and today I had pocket K in SB. It was folded to me, cuz I don't like slowplaying in the SB. BB reraised, I reraised he just called. flop was 256 ( 2 spades ) I bet just under pot and he pushes, I instacall, he has Jacks, and he 2 outs me on the river. I wanted to puke.
PS I can't wait to hear what Ol Kainry says I did wrong in that Aces vs Kings hand LOL
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Originally Posted by Jeru
folding KK preflop is in general wrong. unless youre like extremely deep. but most online games playing 100 big blinds deep its a huge mistake to fold KK pre
When you know you're beat...you'd rather call and hope to hit a 2 outer? I've gotten away from Kings a lot preflop or on the flop and I always made the right decision.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic-cord-strangler
I'm not bashing your theory, you obviously know a thing or 2 about poker, but I'm not gonna call something, knowing I'm beat and relying on luck to win a hand.
The thing that kills me the worst is the dominating ace that gets beat by the weaker kicker. If I had to venture a guess I probably run 50/50 or worse in those situations.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeru
He's right folding KK preflop is the wrong move. Like Harrington says, even if you are beat, which is really rare, you still have a 19% chance to win. You should take your lumps in a situation like that.
Man I hate that. There are sooooo many people who think whoa I've got an ace, I so am favorit and call someone who raised in FTA. Problem with the pokerboom these days is that people think they can play poker cuz they saw one episode of HSP or PADQuote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
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When you know you're beat...you'd rather call and hope to hit a 2 outer? I've gotten away from Kings a lot preflop or on the flop and I always made the right decision.
I'm not bashing your theory, you obviously know a thing or 2 about poker, but I'm not gonna call something, knowing I'm beat and relying on luck to win a hand.
can you show some hand histories of where you folded KK preflop and someone else had AA? cause tbh i dont believe it. it mightve happened once sure but...
its just not a good way to go about it.. what do you wanna do? bet and raise and reraise half your stack to THEN find out you think you are beat? this is not good at all. and by the time half your stack is in the pot and theres only a smidgen of a chance your opponent could hold QQ or AK (which there nearly always is) along with AA you have more then enough equity to stick the rest in with KK.
i mean, sure there are situations where you can fold it. say under the gun raises, under the gun+1 3bets, middle position 4bets, then the small blind cold 5bets all-in. and youre in the BB with KK.. obviously these are spots where it can be an easy muck. but in general when theres only one opponent showing strength and youre no more than 100big blinds deep.. dont fold
edit: yes ghostlaced, i do
shit big figgas.Quote:
Originally Posted by mic-cord-strangler
You make a living off this shit?
Maybe but saying it's wrong, I dunno... I am a tight player ( something I've been bashed for enough around here LOL ) so yeah I can see why you consider it to be wrong.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
Well I dunno how I can up a handhistory, I've only recently started using Pokeroffice but can't work with it LOL, and I might have exagerated when I said alot LOL, but yeah maybe 2-3 times when I had KK I managed to get away with but like I said preflop or on the flopQuote:
Originally Posted by mic-cord-strangler
see the other reason why youre a donk (other than the fact that youre a loosing player) is that you cant accept badbeats. that shit happens to everybody ! i once got my KK crushed by another KK pflop all-in the guy won wit a flush ! that kind of shit happens to everybody. in the long run your aces will be the winner, but it wont win all the god damn time !Quote:
Originally Posted by Jeru
edit: nvm the edit
An explanation of changing gears from someone who grinded 10 cents into $102 in three days just playing sit n gos.
There are many styles of poker play and each style has it's own usefulness in certain situations. Those that stick to the same constant pattern of play are usually dispatched of pretty easily. When pros talk about "changing gears" they are talking about a change in the level of aggression in your play, whether more or less. In a 27 person {non turbo} Sit n Go where the levels go up gradually and you have time to play, your very first objective early should be to NOT GO BROKE. The most effective way to do this, is to play the CHECK-CALL (Hellmuth) style. Some will try the shove-n-double (Brunson) style early with their AK's and AQ's, but this is incorrect, as the only hands that will call you are sure to have you beaten or dominated. Very rarely will you get called with a rag ace, and in my experience when it does happen, I lose anyway.
So, essentially how the Hellmuth style works broken down is, you are trying to stay out of race situations and conserve as many chips as possible, while concealing your hand and reading your opponent's hand and only getting money in when you either A. Know you have the best hand or B. know you can make your opponent fold.
Sound tough? It really isn't, especially if you can read bets well. What you want to do, is no matter the positions, check to your opponent until he leads the action, this way you get the information first, because you are giving your opponent nothing but the opportunity to represent his hand or bluff at weakness. Preflop you want to limp with a lot of the mid range hands and even monsters trying to disguise the strength of your hand. The one caveat with this play, is that you need the patience to fold those monster hands when the board doesn't work out. Personally though, I feel that aces and kings pretty much play themselves, and you should try to get as much money in as you can preflop with them.
The first portion of the tournament should be like this, trapping your opponents for all their chips while taking minimum risk to your own stack. Close to the money with around 6-7 left you should switch to LDP (Phil Laak) Lock down poker, where unless you are a big stack, you tighten up to play only the top 5% of hands. Once you make the money, it's time to switch up again, to aggressive-continuation (Stu Unger) where you should be stealing as many blinds as possible and continuation betting flops to try to steal pots. If you're consistent with a 3X Big Blind preflop raise followed by a 3/4 pot flop bet, you will win a lot of pots. From there it's on to heads up, where the aggressor usually is the victor.
I pretty much followed this strategy to the letter, and the results have been very good.
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I was watching you play on PS tonight in one of your SNGs...one of the ones you were highest ranked in...couldnt say nothing as an observer since I have 1 cent in my PS account....(I think I placed in a freeroll 2 years ago and tried the penny tables) I guess Im sucking out in the freerolls there.
I'm playing like dogshit tonight, gimme ur username and I'll send u some cash...taking a break 4 now
Im "Prolifical" on PS.....yeah I made my account years ago.
The one I watched you placed 4th while some dude with a cactus avatar started sucking out near the end.
I'll send you $12, that will be enough for 10 27 player $1.20 sngs, I recommend those for you to start off. that cash was my only one so far today....when I get back from break I'll play in those with you. hit u later...Richmond hill your town?Quote:
Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG
hello? I really have to go here....are u from richmond hill? is that your town listing?
I guess you'll just have to wait
that "phil helmuth style of playing" of limping and checkcalling is terrible advice . not to be a dick, but people read this and find QTo utg and go "oh thats a nice looking hand! i call!".. so they limp utg, someone behind them raises and they go "ohh i will let him do the betting for me, HAH!"... limping then calling a raise out of position. this is exactly how donks lose their money!!
just play like a TAG (tight aggressive) raise and bet good hands and dont even get involved w crappy hands or when youre out of position. dont open limp for gods sake.
other than that sounds ok. except when your in the money or on the bubble in SNGs youre better off raising to like 2.5 big blinds or even less, just over a minraise, will have the same effect as 3x but will save you money if you dont win the hand. also, sticking to a standard continuation bet size isnt optimal.
Sorry brock I had to go last night, that is my town listing.
Mic Cord, that Hellmuth style isnt that good, but in freerolls and lower limit tourneys it works and think thats what was meant...not QTo UTG though. In tourneys where the buy-in is $10+ it fails completely and players will pick up on it fast.
why is a dude who never plays tournaments trying to tell people which style to play? Stick to the things you know about. What you described is not Hellmuth style, it's douchebag ATM style.
yea it's such an awful style that he won 11 bracelets with it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Prolifical ENG
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Originally Posted by beautifulrock
hellmuth = douchebag ATM imo :king:
btw i do play tournaments. im in the sunday million right now :DDDD
I'm watching you, lets play heads up later
haha dunno if i can be asked. playing FTOPS main event on full tilt later on too plus some cash games on microgaming (lol i know it sounds like im dodging you : D D)
I saw that.
can prolly fold turn to his CR maybe... but whatever lol donkuments i dont feel like bet/folding trips vs some random cunt.. meh
I was just watching...shitty exit from the sunday million.
GL in F-Tops
What table themes do yall use in PS? I started playing there again and dont remember any themes years ago. I just noticed them now...I guess I like renaissance purple, slick chair and marine.
the best theme there is is hypersimple + 4 color deck, I don't know how I would play omaha without it, the cards are complete solid bold colors with big numbers
Yesterday I started playing with that PS simple 4 color deck and I do like it and looks good with most themes. You are right that its easier to play omaha with.Quote:
Originally Posted by beautifulrock
I got a really stupid question about pokerstars. Can you change your avatar whenever you want? I just remember like 5 years ago you could only change your image once with an account or something stupid like that.
send them an email