This is a Pink Floyd album with wu tang mc's stabbing in and out.
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This is a Pink Floyd album with wu tang mc's stabbing in and out.
Ghost, gza and cappa can come with some better rhythm.
U god and mast Killah smashed hard on this as far as I know.
Method man is the man but god damn, this ain't no Mr Sandman.
Somehow it's a win-win situation for Rae. It's always been since 8D. Whenever a collective effort succeeds he reaps some of that success. If it fails, he can always say he's the one who who is keeping this legacy.
Let's be honest, these guys are law-abiding citizens/tax payers, bussiness owners and parents. They should tour around for some time, settle down and enjoy.
Wu-Tang is like a Soviet Union of hip hop. They had nukes, power, resources but they could work only under the rule of a dictator. But when central power gets weaker, dissolution must occur. Yet they still want to maintain some connections with their former state/group, cause they're nothing without it.
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shit, i can't believe people are complaining that much... i have only heard it twice yet, but i think it's an impressive albuum. RZA came through with the beats big time, 4th Disciple and Adrian Younge did a great job and Math did one ill one.
lyrically they are on point for the most part, so what if one or two verses are sub-par when you have loads of theme songss and full on storytelling joints. GZA sounds better than in a long time, Raekwon had great verses, Method Mans flow is still impeccable and his voice is like the glue for the group. i don't know why people don't like Cappadonna bc he nailed it more often than not.
this is an LP you want to play front-to-back, just like "8 Diagrams" it's a true album, noot a collection of singles. it's much better than "Iron Flag", lyrically it's stronger than "8D" because they all seem to ben the same page and inviting 4th was a genius move. "Necklace", much like "Weak Spot", really capture that vintage Wu feel. i need to listen more but this is not dissapointing at all... i would have prefered that they would have remixed "Reunion" but it is what it is
I am happy for you if you enjoy this album. I don't think the album is mediocre. It's a good album but not what I expected. Some tracks are good and the album is cohesive. yeah you can listen to this from start to finish but sometimes I want to skip some tracks. According to me it's not a very impressive job. Robert Diggs gave his best but as I said he lost his way. He was under too many influences. I don't think this album is for wu fans. Many persons will certainly enjoy it but not me. All good things must come to an end ! For me Wu-tang = land of the lost ! In a near future if I want to listen to wu music I will listen to their 90s shit.Quote:
Originally Posted by claaa7
RZA dont give a fuck what u think bout the album cuz "no matter what the weather he be getting mad cheddhaaaa
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Originally Posted by Soulless
You pretty much nailed it here.
You are mistaking your own personal opinion for general consensus. Just because you didn't like it doesn't mean it was not well received.Quote:
Originally Posted by TheWuCepticon
Try looking up the stats and reviews on google. Its all there.
The W was a classic and Gravel Pit was a hit single. Ghostface peaked during that year. Stop treating Wu-Tang like it's a religion or something.
i always thought that "8 Diagrams" was kind of a RZA album with Wu-Tang members voices used as another instrument, but i don't get that impression from "A.B.T." at all as much... i mean the Wu-Tang albums were always made from RZA's vision, including "36 Chambers" and "Wu-Tang Forever" but the other generals had enough trust in him to not moan about it back then.
also unlike "8D" the Wu members here seem very pleased with "A.B.T."
I like enormously Rza for me it was the best producer . but he must understand that it is a beat maker , not a leader of a band fuck !! I ecouté the album a few times although it is not a classic but it 's not bad.
I really think this is the derneir album.
Other points RZA must not only decide the artistic direction of an album especially if AC can be your last!
Rae and Ghost but do not expect me to buy their new album !
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Originally Posted by ShaolinDarts
No, The Source was the biggest hip hop publication at that time, that still mattered most, and gave The W only 3.5 mics. That was WITH Wu on the cover, and still gave them a mediocre score, and earlier that year they gave Supreme Clientele a 4.5/5. Also, even Wu didn't seem think it was up to par, the reason why they released Iron Flag the following year. Wu never released albums back to back, and definitely not that fast. They obviously felt like most fans felt about The W, that it lacked the aggressive raw content. That's the reason why Iron Flag sounds more aggressive overall, whereas, The W was them attempting to be more mainstream. Hence the reason for having songs like Gravel Pit with a Flintstones inspired video, Jump Off at an attempt for some radio play with a colorful throwback 80s club video. And having so many big name platinum artists (at that time) that they broke bread with during the years, featured on there. It's obvious what they (or RZA) tried to do, that album was far from a traditional Wu album, it was soft compared to Forever, and dumbed down lyrically compared to Forever, over featured, and going for more mainstream appeal. When I get a Wu cd I wanna hear the Wu, and only Wu....not Snoop Dogg over a garbage, lazy, Bobby Digital beat with ODB.
why do people want to keep RZA in a little box? let that man cook, what hes done is interesting
its not like its a bunch of rock samples, live bass has been in hip hop for a long time. Pete Rock uses live bass in like 90% of his beats, its dope as hell on Mistaken Identity. its still hip hop
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Originally Posted by claaa7
actually surprised it got as much positive feedback as it has so far on here. its getting love everywhere else, so a little less than that on here is not surprising. that's usually how it goes
Personally I don't care if he wants to try things. He has always experimented a lot, it's his trademark. But before he knew how a crazy beat sounds. I think he is under too many influences and wants to please everybody. But Everybody doesn't care about Wu tang only die hard fans do. For many hip hop heads wu is done (even the guy who introduced me to wu world). I don't know if he wants to make a "musician" album ! If that is the case he fails. As I said you can use what U want to create a beat, I don't care. But the beat must sound dope. I don't ask him to sound the same, he can't ! Yeah a man can't cook but he takes risks.Quote:
Originally Posted by FasterBlade