Ready To Die....overrated

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Originally Posted by Pat Bateman

I never fucking said that you faggit englishmun

You quoted someone else and put my name in there.

Get of my pelvis region please.

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i pressed quote, got rid of the rest of the shit, & typed what i typed, go fuck yaself, you really think you're that important that i'd fuck about like that ?? cocksmoker

lol, this thread is still going?

It's just two different opinions and tastes in music. Some people prefer the clever wordplay, metaphors, obscure subject material etc from rappers like Holocaust and some people prefer the swagger, delivery, mic presence (and obviously good lyrics still) etc of someone like Biggie.

Obviously it's not actually that simple, people like stuff from both sides, but that's pretty much what it comes down to. Lol @ how angry and defensive some people get when someone disagrees with them.

^You know what I'm saying sean ?

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Originally Posted by claaa7

I think you're wrong on this Whers, i think you should listen closer to "Ready to Die"

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Peace Claaa...

I haven't said anything about the album in this thread...not once.
Only that Biggie is overrated in my opinion.

I'll check it out again though.

(not directed at you whers, at that jensen guy, i actually like english people, just not this guy because he's a snake)

Yeha, now you come fucking crawling back.

Fucking english piece of filth

you feel pretty fucking small now dont you

huh

what

i cant fucking hear you

i thought so.

lets collab on a track sometime god.

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Originally Posted by Pat Bateman

Fucking english piece of filth

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lol, no need for that

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Originally Posted by Pat Bateman

i actually like english people

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:satisfy:

yeah sorry, as i said, most of the english dudes on here are good, and most english people ive met are fine.

Just not this guy.

Can you believe he made a diss track about me?

Jesus.

lol its cool it doesn't bother me anyway

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Originally Posted by Pat Bateman

yeah sorry, as i said, most of the english dudes on here are good, and most english people ive met are fine.

Just not this guy.

Can you believe he made a diss track about me?

Jesus.

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a diss track ?? about you ?? you're not that important

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Originally Posted by KLIION JENSEN

this proves the amount of crack cocaine that goes into your system is immense......Biggie is one of the greatest MCs ever, and i speak from 24 years of listening to & analysing hip hop & mc's, Biggie is one of the "FEW" mc's that prove skills can sell, his delivery, his wordplay, his cadence, his personality, his character, are all part of the reason he sold so many records, he may have made a couple of mistakes beatwise - in our hip hop purist opinions - but HE obviously enjoyed & like the music he made, which as an artist myself, is more important than what you think, from hardcore, to commercial, to thugs, to backpackers, Biggie got the most love and still does.

and you call Holocaust the definition of what an mc is ?? when he's struggling like fuck to make an album, he could only sell to trippy drug users & wannabe hip hop purists such as yourself, who think "i cant understand a word he says, and he only appeals to a few, its art".....even on a Wu Tang forum he gets next to no love, and he's Wu tang (apparently), dont get me wrong, i like Holocaust - but then again i'm an occasional trippy drug user, i could'nt listen to him when i'm weeded....

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Whats up with putting Pat's name where mine was anyway ?

This actually proves nothing...
Only that I can form my own opinion and am not scared to say it.

I simply pointed out the fact that I think Holo's early style (Silkworm)
Reminded me of Biggie...but he got bored of it due to it becoming to easy
So he switched it up...
I wondered if Biggie diddn't pass so soon would he have made a similar move ?
People have said themselves he found it real easy, it was like a game to him.
Thats why I said Holo is the definition...he is an instrument of Emcees
Where as Biggie is more one dimensional..that was all.
I understand he died without really spreading his wings so to speak...
As a matter of fact I think this is a reason why he is considered so great.

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Originally Posted by whers

^You know what I'm saying sean ?



Peace Claaa...

I haven't said anything about the album in this thread...not once.
Only that Biggie is overrated in my opinion.

I'll check it out again though.

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nah what i mean is just that you said Biggie was talking the ordinary shit about guns, crack and broads but he is so much more complex than that. he's like a more charismatic version of Shabazz in large parts of Ready to Die (don't get me wrong, i fucking love 'Bazz too) - and that's what I gave some examples on in my response... I'm a fan of much underground shit also as you know though I feel the best shit is what's in between - the hardcore boom-bap from mid-'90s like early Biggie, D.I.T.C., Shabazz, Royce, Tragedy and them but still got love for acts like Cannibal OX, Jean Grae, etc...

did you bump the Mr. Len album I sent you a couple months back BTW?
peace

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Originally Posted by whers

Whats up with putting Pat's name where mine was anyway ?

This actually proves nothing...
Only that I can form my own opinion and am not scared to say it.

I simply pointed out the fact that I think Holo's early style (Silkworm)
Reminded me of Biggie...but he got bored of it due to it becoming to easy
So he switched it up...
I wondered if Biggie diddn't pass so soon would he have made a similar move ?
People have said themselves he found it real easy, it was like a game to him.
Thats why I said Holo is the definition...he is an instrument of Emcees
Where as Biggie is more one dimensional..that was all.
I understand he died without really spreading his wings so to speak...
As a matter of fact I think this is a reason why he is considered so great.

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i've never typed that dickheads name in my life.....the rest of what you said, fair play, i just dont think Holocaust is what you're making him out to be

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Originally Posted by whers

Whats up with putting Pat's name where mine was anyway ?

This actually proves nothing...
Only that I can form my own opinion and am not scared to say it.

I simply pointed out the fact that I think Holo's early style (Silkworm)
Reminded me of Biggie...but he got bored of it due to it becoming to easy
So he switched it up...
I wondered if Biggie diddn't pass so soon would he have made a similar move ?
People have said themselves he found it real easy, it was like a game to him.
Thats why I said Holo is the definition...he is an instrument of Emcees
Where as Biggie is more one dimensional..that was all.
I understand he died without really spreading his wings so to speak...
As a matter of fact I think this is a reason why he is considered so great.

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nah I don't think so, he would probably have gone the same way as Jay-Z and Nas - if you look at "Life After Death" the production started getting glossier and glossier (don't get me wrong that album is a fucking banger too). people get money hungry, just look at Fat Joe who used to be a real respected hardcore underground rapper down with one of the illest crews hip-hop has ever seen (almost on Wu's level) [and i'm not talking Terror Squad] and look at him now - i think the same would have been the case for Pun.

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Originally Posted by KLIION JENSEN

i've never typed that dickheads name in my life.....the rest of what you said, fair play, i just dont think Holocaust is what you're making him out to be

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Why the fuck can't you keep my name:

1) Out ya fucking mouth

and

2) out ya fucking rhymes

then?

huh?

Explain this to me man, because um, im kinda confused as to exactly why your giving ya boy this much exposure.

yall know i dont need it ahhahahaha

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Originally Posted by claaa7

nah what i mean is just that you said Biggie was talking the ordinary shit about guns, crack and broads but he is so much more complex than that. he's like a more charismatic version of Shabazz in large parts of Ready to Die (don't get me wrong, i fucking love 'Bazz too) - and that's what I gave some examples on in my response... I'm a fan of much underground shit also as you know though I feel the best shit is what's in between - the hardcore boom-bap from mid-'90s like early Biggie, D.I.T.C., Shabazz, Royce, Tragedy and them but still got love for acts like Cannibal OX, Jean Grae, etc...

did you bump the Mr. Len album I sent you a couple months back BTW?
peace

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Hence the wordplay comment.

I do prefer the underground artists more...
I will check it out again, but according to brock there's not much point...
Me not being american and not being born earlier.

But I'll check it out again...oh wait I'm closed minded, I forgot.

Mr. Len was sick from what I remember, real different.
I lost it when I switched computers though, I lost alot of stuff actually.

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Originally Posted by Pat Bateman

Why the fuck can't you keep my name:

1) Out ya fucking mouth

and

2) out ya fucking rhymes

then?

huh?

Explain this to me man, because um, im kinda confused as to exactly why your giving ya boy this much exposure.

yall know i dont need it ahhahahaha

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lol, again, you're not that important, that i would put you in my rhymes, and you're the one giving me exposure, which i appreciate, its like i got my own little publicity team