how many satalites have the arabs sent into outer space these days?
how many have the christians/west sent?
thank you.
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how many satalites have the arabs sent into outer space these days?
how many have the christians/west sent?
thank you.
when JESUS talks about bring a sword he was talking about his words like i said in revelations it describes JESUS in his heavenly glory and it says that out of his mouth comes a two edged sword...so when JESUS talks about sword he means his words....also to prove that when peter in the garden of gathsemeny drew his sword and struck the high priest slave JESUS rebuked him saying" put away your sword for all those who live by the sword will die by the sword" so see jesus didnt mean he brought a sword to kill people he was talking about his words.
also prince rai :heres what muhummad thought about people who insult him...
(3) Asma bint Marwan was a poetess who belonged to a tribe of Medinan pagans, and whose husband was named Yazid b. Zayd. She composed a poem blaming the Medinan pagans for obeying a stranger (Muhammad) and for not taking the initiative to attack him by surprise. Perhaps in March 624, when the Allah-inspired prophet heard what she had said, he asked, "Who will rid me of Marwan’s daughter?" A member of her husband’s tribe volunteered and crept into her house that night. She had five children, and the youngest was sleeping at her breast. The assassin gently removed the child, drew his sword, and plunged it into her, killing her in her sleep.
peace
peace to brother sarr....
yes prince rai we christians do stick together !!!!
peace
^^ shut your dumb ass up. u gotta be the dumbest cat in this whole forum
i dont even know why dudes is stressin over your bullshit.
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King James Bible believers are faced with an array of problems to day. Of course we all know that the multiplicity of all the new modern versions are a big problem but another big problem is the fact that many of the worldly publishing companies are publishing Bibles and calling them King James Bibles when in actuality they are not. They are counterfeits.
Because the King James Bible is in the publick domain and not copyrighted, these worldly publishing companies think they can make minor changes to the standard text so that they can please certain groups which translates into extra sales for them. That's the way the modern world operates to day. All the common ordinary Bible believer wants is the same Bible that his grandmother had and the same Bible her grandmother had and the same Bible her grandmother had etc. that's all.
Just give us the text that has established itself as the standard text of the Holy Bible, an old fashioned, Christ exalting, devil kicking, Authorized King James Bible. To the best of my understanding this is the 1769 edition of the 1611 King James Bible with a few minor printing errors and spellings corrected along the way in the 1800's.
Until the twenty-first century you could get a copy of it in any nickel and dime book store. To day you can still find it but you must proceed with caution. You will be hard pressed to find it at all in any typical Christian book store without some alterations to the text.
The Bible of our forefathers which we received through process of time comes with three specific warning labels. One is near the front. The other is near the middle and the last one is at the very end. Let's read them:
WARNING LABEL # 1 - Deuteronomy 4:2
2 Ye shall not add unto the word which I command you, neither shall ye diminish ought from it, that ye may keep the commandments of the LORD your God which I command you.
WARNING LABEL # 2 - Proverbs 30:5-6
5 Every word of God is pure: he is a shield unto them that put their trust in him.
6 Add thou not unto his words, lest he reprove thee, and thou be found a liar.
WARNING LABEL # 3 - Revelation 22:18-19
18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:
19 And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life, and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
I would like to think these worldly publishing companies are just ignorant to the seriousness of what they are doing. However in some cases I'm sure that these deceptive maneuvers are being done with fore thought. In other words they are aware of the warning labels but choose to ignore them. They have hardened their hearts against the standard text of the Holy Bible.
Let me give you an example of what I'm talking about. It was approximately six months ago I purchased a King James Bible from a popular on line book store. It was a straight text (advertised as the standard text) meaning it had no notes, no references, no helps, and no maps. It was just what I wanted. Just give me the Bible and if I need help with a difficult passage I'll ask the Holy Spirit for guidance and I'll check other scriptures for references.
Don't get me wrong. I'm not against some of the commentaries and other Bible study tools. In fact I consider some of them a necessity, for example a good dictionary. It's just that commentaries, dictionaries, concordances and the like are the words of men and not the words of God. They are not infallible. Therefore I do not believe they should be mixed together under the same cover and be called the word of God. In actuality it is the word of God plus the words of a man or a group of men. In my opinion the Holy Bible should be just the word of God only from cover to cover. That is why I prefer a straight text.
At any rate I had bought the Bible I thought I wanted. It had been published by Cambridge. They have always been the giant in the industry. In fact they are the oldest Printer and Publisher in the world. They are supposed to be the gold standard for dependability according to many King James Bible believers. This Bible had a nice black French Morocco leather cover with golden coloured gilt edges. It was very nice on the outside but when I started checking out the inside I was shocked. This particular edition of the Cambridge Bible that calls itself a King James Bible is not genuine. IT'S A COUNTERFEIT! It's not the Bible of my forefathers!
Here are some of the changes I located: Asswaged has been changed to assuaged. Basons has been changed to basins. Chesnut has been changed to chestnut. Cloke has been changed to cloak. Enquire has been changed to inquire. Further has been changed to farther. Jubile has been changed to jubilee. Intreat has been changed to entreat. Morter has been changed to mortar. Ought has been changed to aught, and rereward has been changed to rearward.
Brother Nic, why get so upset? These are just minor changes in spelling. Well maybe they are, but have you never read "a little leaven leaveneth the whole lump?" You see I believe God wrote the Bible through sinful men. I believe God copied the Bible through sinful men. I believe God translated the Bible through sinful men, and I believe God edited (purified) the Bible through sinful men. So therefore I believe God gave us the exact words in the exact order He wanted us to have them in. If that's the case then He spelled the words exactly the way He wanted to spell them, and gave them to us in a pure language, and that language is the standard text of the King James Bible. This is the Bible that has stood the test of time without any editing whatsoever and this is the Bible The Believers organization, with God's help, intends to preserve for all future generations.
Beside all this, Cambridge has also taken the liberty of making doctrinal changes. Notice the following: The capital S in the word Spirit has been changed to a lower case s in numerous passages. The capital S refers to the Holy Spirit, the third member of the Godhead, whereas the lower case s in the word spirit could have multiple definitions such as simply referring to a mood or emotion. Its primary definition means to breath. All living self moving creatures have a spirit within them. So many definitions could apply to the word spirit when it is not capitalized.
To change the capital S in the word Spirit to a lower case s is an attack against the Godhead, the most powerful threefold cord in heaven and earth: the Father, the Son, and the Holy Spirit. Cambridge has made this critical error in the following places: Genesis 1:2, 41:38, Judges 3:10, 6:34, 11:29, 13:25, 14:6, 14:19, 15:14, 1 Samuel 10:6, 10:10, 11:6, 16:13, 16:14, 19:20, 19:23, 2 Samuel 23:2, 1 Kings 18:12, 22:24, 2 Kings 2:16, 2 Chronicles 15:1, 18:23, 20:14, 24:20, Job 33:4, Isaiah 40:13, 48:16, 61:1, 63:10, 11, 14, Ezekiel 11:5, 24. For hundreds of years Cambridge published these verses with a capital S, but now in the twenty-first century it has been changed. Actually this so called standard text edition first hit the market in 1993 and is being endorsed by many King James Bible believing websites to day. I assume that they are not aware that it has been modernized.
Here is another change that has been made in this particular edition: the word twoedged has become two-edged. They added a hyphen. This word is only in the King James Bible four times (Psalms 149:6, Proverbs 5:4, Hebrews 4:12, and Revelation 1:16.) Now check this out: they added the hyphen in only three of the four verses. They left it without a hyphen in Hebrews 4:12. Why? Was this a mistake or did they mean to do it that way? Why tamper with it in the first place? Don't say you were trying to help us Cambridge. If that's the case then please don't try to help us any more. All we want you to do is to publish the same standard text of the King James Bible as you have done so very well for hundreds of years. Don't publish something that is not the standard and call it the standard. Once you modernize spelling, change capital letters to lower case letters and add hyphens, you are changing the standard text in order to please modern society.
Here are some other ploys that some of these other worldly publishing companies are pulling on an unaware publick. One thing a lot of them do is change the spelling of words that end with the letters o-u-r to the more modern American spelling of o-r. For example armour becomes armor. Behaviour becomes behavior. Clamour becomes clamor. Colour becomes color. Endeavour becomes endeavor. Favour becomes favor. Honour becomes honor. Labour becomes labor. Neighbour becomes neighbor. Odour becomes odor. Rigour becomes rigor. Rumour becomes rumor. Valour becomes valor and vapour becomes vapor. Well Brother Nic what's wrong with that? Remember what we said about the warning labels? Remember what the scripture said about a little leaven leaventh the whole lump?
Now the very worst of this battle of o-u-r vs. o-r comes when dealing with the only begotten Son of God, our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. The modern day counterfeiters have changed Saviour to Savior. They have given us a six-letter Savior in place of a seven-letter Saviour. In Bible numerics seven is the number of completeness, purity, and spiritual perfection. On the other hand six is the number of man which is earthly not heavenly. Every one has heard of 666. It has a bad connotation and is not highly esteemed in Bible numerics.
The seven-letter Saviour is the only begotten Son of God, the Lord Jesus Christ. The six-letter Savior is the son of perdition, the anti christ. He wants to be like the most High (Isaiah 14:14,) but not in a good way, but in an evil way. He is not a follower. He's a counterfeiter. Therefore his final destination is the lake of fire. The new versions, along with the new age movement, and some of the King James Bible counterfeits are preparing the way for this six-letter so called Savior. That's the way he will spell his name, S-a-v-i-o-r not S-a-v-i-o-u-r. No thank you Satan. I'm sticking with the seven-letter Saviour as portrayed in the old black Book that I inherited from my forefathers.
There are many other things going on by the worldly publishing companies. Almost all of them have hardened their hearts against the standard text of the Holy Bible. They do not believe God actually had His hand upon it much less wrote it. They treat it as a product of men. That is why they do not hesitate to publish all the different new versions. Nor do they hesitate to change the old King James and still call it the King James. If a person can't see the fingerprints of God upon this Book then he is either clouded in the cabassis or he is as lost as a duck in the desert with his head in the sand!
The rules of English grammar may change but the King James Bible is fixed in a moment of time (the 1800's, the 1900's and for ever more) and is unchangeable. This is the standard text and there is no other. This is the Book that spread the gospel of Jesus Christ all over the world. This is the Book my grandmother had and her grandmother had and her grandmother had without any alterations (editing) whatsoever. It is basically the same Book that rolled off the printing press in 1611. The only differences being it was changed from Gothic type to Roman type, printer's errors were corrected and spelling was stabilized. The King James Bible is a very old Book.
Now consider this: the scriptures have been translated into over 1,200 languages. Of all these over 800 languages had it translated straight from the Elizabethan English of the King James Bible. Not from the Hebrew, Aramaic, and Greek. Not from the Latin, not from the German, but straight from the Authorized King James. Now some of these people have learned English as a second language. They are not familiar with these modern Americanized spellings nor are most of the other English speaking people of the world. Can you see what God has woven together through process of time? The Holy Bible is from above and is a finished book from God. It is written in a pure language. Furthermore this language is very peculiar and has been used and still is being used in a very unique way. Let's preserve it as we received it and quit trying to change it!
If I remember correctly, Yeshua told Peter that Peter would deny him, and then PEter DID deny him and after Yeshua left Earth, Paul and Peter were promoting the Messiah's word and Peter chose to get rid of all the strict shit of the religion, so Paul and Peter were split... Paul's movement was called 'orthos' and Peter's movement 'cathos' (Orthodox VS Catholic), in Western Civilization, Peter is credited as being the most effective missionary because he's the one that gets most people to convert to Christianity. What he did was remove the strict dietary policies (such as removing the law which forbids from eating pork) and the painful practice of circumcision. Paul and his 'orthos', on the other hand, stayed traditional and the Greeks and Romans that converted did get circumcised and did not consume the flesh of the swine.
So talk about Peter all you want, he was a bitch, he denied Yeshua, he betrayed Yeshua. He's a little ass fagget. If you follow his word then you are an enemy of Yeshua ben Yosef, The Messiah.
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Originally Posted by Sham-iLL
um peter and paul and the elders of jerusalem all agreed that the law of the jews shouldnt be manditory for the gentiles..its in "acts" so I dont know what you are talking about!
I'm talking about real History not a fabricated Roman edited version of the Bible.
You believe Jesus died right?
You believe he was crucified and murdered?
How is it the same people that murdered him could establish his religion?
Constantine and the Freemason faggets edited the Bible and fucked the whole thing up. You want to know the real word? Learn Hebrew and Aramaic and find the real scrolls and read them yourself. There will be a bunch of shit that you will find which is not in the Bible and you will see that there's a bunch of shit from 'The Bible' that are not in the scrolls.
Why?
'Cause the ROMANS attempted to murder the Messiah and fuck up the words for the coming of the Anti-Christ.
And according to history,
Peter and Paul split their paths and Peter(cathos) was the successful one because it was easier to convert to that (didn't have to give up swine, didn't have to circumcise).
And Peter is just a pure bitch. How could you betray Yeshua like that?
um, how did peter betreay Jesus...explain to me.
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Originally Posted by sarr
WOWW!!!!!!!!!!
is that ALL you can come back with?? How many satellites have the arabs sent into outer space vs Christians???
Right,this obviously proves that Islam is backwards hahahahaha
And btw, "satellites" is spelt like that<<<
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Originally Posted by prof zooruka
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Originally Posted by sarr
:thumbup: *stays silent*
You're a Christian and you don't know that Peter crossed Yeshua? pfft...Quote:
Originally Posted by sarr
Examples of how Peter was a coward:
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"All four canonical Gospels recount Jesus walking on the water. Matthew additionally describes Peter walking on the water, but sinking when he lost his faith and courage.(Matthew 14:28–31)"
Wtf? Why the fuck are you telling Yeshua to wash your hands and your head as well. He's washing you feet and you want him to bathe you completely?Quote:
"John 13:2-11 recounts that at the beginning of the Last Supper Jesus washed his disciples' feet; Peter initially refused to let Jesus wash his feet, but when Jesus responded: 'If I wash thee not, thou hast no part with me', Peter replied: 'Lord, not my feet only, but also my hands and my head'"
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"All four canonical Gospels mention that, when Jesus was arrested, someone cut off the ear of the high priest's slave, an action that Jesus rebuked. John names the slave as Malchus, and the man with the sword as Peter. Luke adds that Jesus touched the ear and healed it."
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Denial of Jesus
All four canonical gospels recount that, during the Last Supper, Jesus foretold that Peter would deny association with him three times that same night. The three Synoptics describe the three denials as follows:
1. A denial when a female servant of the high priest spots Simon Peter, saying that he had been with Jesus.
2. A denial when Simon Peter had gone out to the gateway, away from the firelight, but the same servant girl or another told the bystanders he was a follower of Jesus.
3. A denial came when recognition of Peter as a Galilean was taken as proof that he was indeed a disciple of Jesus.
Matthew adds that it was his accent that gave him away as coming from Galilee. Luke deviates slightly from this by stating that, rather than a crowd accusing Simon Peter, it was a third individual.
The Gospel of John places the second denial while Peter was still warming himself at the fire, and gives as the occasion of the third denial a claim by someone to have seen him in the garden of Gethsemane when Jesus was arrested.
In the Gospel of Luke, Jesus' prediction of Peter's denial is coupled with a prediction that all the apostles ("you," plural) would be "sifted like wheat," but that it would be Peter's task ("you," singular), when he had turned again, to strengthen his brethren.
In a reminiscent scene in John's epilogue, Peter affirms three times that he loves Jesus.
A most poignant literary "aftershock" of the story of Peter's denial may be found in Chekhov's tale, "The Student."
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In John's gospel, Peter is the first person to enter the empty tomb, although the women and the beloved disciple see it before him (John 20:1–9). In Luke's account, the women's report of the empty tomb is dismissed by the apostles and Peter is the only one who goes to check for himself. After seeing the graveclothes he goes home, apparently without informing the other disciples (Luke 24:1–12).
^^^ This is when Christianity became independent from Judaism. James, John, and Paul were keeping it 'orthos' (traditional) while Peter decided to create his own sect (cathos) and that's why the ROMAN CATHOLIC religion was the official religion successor to the pagan religion in 326 or something like that. Peter, the betrayer, was the one that wanted an independent Christian religion.Quote:
At the council of Jerusalem (c 50), the early Christian church, Paul and the leaders of the Jerusalem church met and decided to embrace Gentile converts. In Galatians, Paul depicts Peter as supporting Paul's mission among the Gentiles, shaking hands on it, along with James and John. In the same epistle, he declares Christianity independent from Judaism and himself independent of the Jerusalem church, owing the other apostles there "nothing." Acts portrays Peter as successfully opposing the Christian Pharisees who insisted on circumcision and the rest of the Mosaic law.
If you want to side with Peter, then go ahead. SIDE WITH THE ONE THAT DENIED YESHUA. You are just an enemy of Yeshua if you do so.
***** = It's saying that it was probably added afterwards, so it is likely that it is not the truth. But look at how many bad statements was made against this guy, it is obvious that he was an asshole and everyone hated him.Quote:
Noncanonical Sayings of Peter
Two sayings are attributed to Peter in the Gospel of Thomas. In the first, Peter compares Jesus to a "just messenger." In the second, Peter asks Jesus to "make Mary leave us, for females don't deserve life," although the verse containing the second is regarded as a dubious, later addition by most scholars*****
In the Apocalypse of Peter, Peter holds a dialogue with Jesus about the parable of the fig tree and the fate of sinners.
In the Gospel of Mary, Peter appears to be jealous of "Mary" (probably Mary Magdalene). He says to the other disciples "Did He really speak privately with a woman and not openly to us? Are we to turn about and all listen to her? Did He prefer her to us?" In reply to this, Levi says "Peter, you have always been hot tempered."
Other noncanonical texts that attribute sayings to Peter include the Secret Book of James and the Acts of Peter.
In conclusion:
Confirms that: You follow Peter's teachings, AKA the one who denied Christ, and the one that every other Apostle/Disciple hated.Quote:
1. In Matthew 14:28–31 Peter went out to walk on water, but then sank because of doubt.
2. In Matthew 26:35 and Matthew 26:74 Peter dramatically swears that he will not deny his Lord even on pain of death, but he denied Jesus with cursing and swearing.
3. Matthew 15:15, Matthew 16:16, Matthew 17:4 Matthew 18:21, Matthew 19:27 are a few examples of Peter being the first to answer.
4. John 21:7 Peter jumping into the water to meet his Lord.
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Originally Posted by sarr
How many 7 star hotels has the west built???
Can you see how stupid the statement you made was now???
its easy to make comments when you havent walked a mile in his shoes....Quote:
Originally Posted by Sham-iLL
peace
^ You're just an idiot. I do not mean that as an insult, I am just telling you what you are because even when the facts are presented to you, you say some other stupid shit. Leave your brain sitting in the darkness if you want, I stated what I stated, you take it or leave it, I have nothing more to say and will reply no longer because you are just a waste of your father's ejaculation. How could a fool like you beat the other sperm cells to the race to reach your mother's egg? You have disgraced all your wasted brothers and sisters because you are a waste. They might have been useful.
oh yes...yes yes yes, inventing high tech space equipment is the same as building a hotelQuote:
Originally Posted by HAN
cmon man