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I know Tage mate. The game was lost since Vidic made that dumb mistake.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tage
And I must say, without El Niño you could have lost the game. He is the one who brought
you back in the game, with his skills, quickness and energy.
But Utd lost the game because they were a bit tired, playing three games in a week was tough
while Liverpool didn't have to play last week (FA Cup).
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Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED
to that i would just say every united fan knows they are in to compete for a trophy almost every year, where the same englishmen dont have much hope in england bringing home any silverware every two years.
but like i said its up in the air. and in the end isnt every players goal to win a world cup before anything else? it certainly would be mine.
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Originally Posted by whitey
Don't know about Ribery or Toni yet, they should be alright come the first leg but Klose is out for the season which brings our strike force down to 3.
34 Goals scored in the Bundesliga over the weekend in 9 games. The most entertaining league in the world bar none.
sheeaaaat http://i.media.goal.com/g/45323_news.jpg
300 for Super Pippo nice.
Ibra's goal in the weekend was nice, but like my italian friend said it doesnt really matter cause he cant do it in games that matter.
With the German league, i think most German teams are forgetting to play defense and they have all just become ferocious offensive teams.
^no doubt about that ibra comment. if he does that against man u and they win, that makes him big time. the fact that he is utter shit in those two games, than comes and lights up la viola just proves some peoples thoughts that, although he is massively talented, he is not big time.
^^^^^^yeah, I'm afraid that's true.
Has anybody heard some shit about Drogba, Carvalho and others coming to Inter? XD LOL
Pippo is a legend tho. I will never forget him, he is prolly the least talented football player I'll know in 50 years from now.
Yeah, apparently Special One wants Essien, Carvahlo, Mikel, Drogba, Vidic and Diaby and also maybe Eto'o and Ibrahimovic in a swap.
Eto'o would have to have the most transfer rumours about any one player of the last 2 years.
In the words of Master Ferguson, Pippo Inzaghi was "born offside"
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Originally Posted by wera
upon first appearance this is true. compared to the flashy skill of an ibra you are correct. but tactical awareness, goal poaching ability, timing, football knowledge are all football skills. unfortunately you don't really see them like you see 3 step overs in a row and think daaaaamn that was sick. and the best part about it, is hes playing now just like he has for 18 years. calling him not talented is a bit of a misnomer.
goal.com had an article on the mordern strikers in the 300 club. the list is short and very impressive...
alan shearer
henrick larsson
ronaldo
raul
rudd van
batistuta
and now pippo.
As much as I like Larsson, scoring a shit load of goals in the SPL should be worth half a goal.
yea, the article defiantly did comment on that. but still his time at barca and man u shows his class. and tons of strikers play in shit leagues, but they none of them have over 400 goals.
i would have liked to see him in another league however.
Agree with you both. Larsson is very good player and where he plays he delivers.
I remember when he was at Feyenoord Rotterdam, he was so important for the club.
But also at Man Utd last year, he was huge in our frontline. He helped Utd in games, especially when it matters.
and remember larrson in the champions league final against Arsenal a few years back?
he set the bar high for barca
????Quote:
Originally Posted by whitey
Please post this article.
RVN hasnt got 300, hes got less then Henry, who in even on the list.
The list must include Internationl goals also, but even with RVN holland goals it would only be about 270. Henry is about the same.
Ronaldo also is on about 290 (inc national games). Considering the amount of seasons hes had injured i think this is the best record.
jesus, goal.com just gets worse and worse.
that ariticle was terrible:
wtf? what fan of football, even the MOST casual, would see scoring your 300th goal as meaningless?Quote:
'SuperPippo' netted his 300th career goal. To the casual observer, that may be a fairly meaningless milestone in the life of a 35-year-old goal-poacher
what a douche
and hes got his stats totally wrong, im pretty sure
could be. ive seen wrong info in their articles before. i didnt fact check it myself, just took their word for it. id hope they would have some semblance of journalistic integrity on the subject.
yeah, well, Pippo is a special dude. But the best moments are when he is arguing with the referees ahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by whitey
that and his goal celebrations. classic. captures the essence of football.
Umm he has MORE than Henry and has well over 300 goals and is in like his 17th season or some shit and scored 150 odd goals for Manchester United in a 5 or 6 year period ALONE or however long he was there. And they include League, Cups and European goals.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED
SMH.
Since the 2001/02 season, IN ALL COMPETITIONS, inc National TeamsQuote:
Originally Posted by BONERFARM JERKERWRISTS
RVN = 305 goals
Henry = 364 goals
Henry>>>>RVN, EASY
And to add to that, Henry haad a couple of injury hit seasons with Arsenal, while RVN has been pretty much injury free the whole time since 2001
LOL You scrape the bottom of the barrel. Club career, which is the requirement here, RVN has Henry covered.
CAREER.
Not specific time periods to suit your argument.
94-09 RVN > Henry
no he doesnt
Club career hes still beat, prolly even more so. Im not going thru it again but they both have similar National team records anyway, RVN im guessing a slightly better record since 01.
AND henry was a winger for Monaco but still scored around 30 goals for them
Noone cares about Ruud before United.
The goals in Holland only count as half.
Its from 2001 FAGGOT STOP TWISTIGN THE ARGUMENT SO IT WORKS FOR YOU.
Where the fuck did you get 2001 from you dumb cunt?
Similar national team records? RVN has 15 less goals but played 45 less than Henry.
LOL
Why are you bringing 2001 and international records when the 300 club is for CLUB football over a career? This isn't the "2001 and beyond club + international record" LOL fucking Alan Shearer is in there with a career spanning 88-06
And RVN started when Henry started and has covered by a good margain AND he spent major time on the sidelines multiple times from a fucked knee
AND HE STILL HAS HENRY COVERED LOL
You don't know jack shit on anything you speak on.
Bonerboy just face it you failed miserably, stop getting so wound up and acknowledge the facts and figures for once.
I have posted factual figures that prove my point, everyone over here knows anyway Henry has a better record than RVN at the top level, you cant tell me anything sitting all the way over there in AUSTRALIA about football, on anything. Im out here living it everydau and have been since i was little. You however are in Australia lol.
Mates, I think that Ghostlaced is right: Henry has scored more goals than Ruud van Nistelrooy.
Henry has scored 261 (clubs & country) and RVN has scored 259 (clubs & country).
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thierry_Henry
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruud_van_Nistelrooy
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...d=8039&cc=5739
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...d=8852&cc=5739
read it and weep Boner lover
RVN
Career total 501/317
Thierry Henry
Career Total 605/296
You were saying?
And I don't give a fuck where I live, my family is German which has a SUPERIOR football history to you. I been to Amsterdam to watch Bayern in the CL, been to the Olympiastadion to watch MULTIPLE city derbies with the Lions and MULTIPLE Bayern CL fixtures and MULTIPLE Bundesliga fixtures at Westfalenstadion, BayArena, Niedersachsenstadion, Fritz-Walter-Stadion and watched MULTIPLE Bavarian derbies at Frankenstadion in an atmosphere the EPL could only DREAM of.
And why do you keep starting from 2001 when their careers started back in 94? :?
LOL what was that about reading and weep?
http://www.rvn10.com/revamp/information_statistics.php
Add all the goals up and it equates to more than 300.
You regularly get shown up for bringing up wrong information and getting your stats wrong and this hurts you twice as bad because you're being shown up by some idiot who lives in Australia and knows more about football than you do.
No surprise to see GHOSTLACED not return after probably googling the last 20 minutes to try and find some dodgy, Bulgarian website that says RVN hasn't scored 300 goals and not finding one he gave up like he normaly does.
Imagine being shown up by me twice in the last day?
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Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED
http://www.rvn10.com/revamp/information_statistics.phpQuote:
Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED
LOL. What actual figures have you posted? You have only posted figures to say since 2001 Henry has outscored RVN. That is fact, I never disputed that BUT you made the claim that goal.com got their information wrong about RVN scoring 300 when he has WELL OVER 300 goals
http://www.rvn10.com/revamp/information_statistics.php
http://www.rvn10.com/revamp/information_statistics.php
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ruud_va...ooy#Statistics
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hahah look at the state of rage!!
ive already proved you wrong, i dont care how many RVN has got, Henry still has more CAREER goals
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...d=8039&cc=5739
^add them up, youll see it comes to 364.
I win.
You fail.
And if you were a real German you wouldnt be sticking up SO MUCH for a Holland player. You just dont do that in Germany. Especially when your embarrasingly wrong lol.
I am not sticking up for a Dutchman, I'm just proving you wrong. You keep including international goals, why? International goals aren't included. :?
Face it, you're wrong, as usual. You're making a fool of yourself like Rick Ross.
HAHAHAHA and you can't even count correctly. You probably added up his appearances. Even without his international goals on the link you gave me he has 213 goals WITHOUT including his international goals and adding up all the goals it equates to 237 LOL
WHERE THE FUCK DID YOU 364 FROM? OH WAIT LOL LOL YOU ADDED UP HIS GAMES STARTED TALLY INSTEAD OF HIS GOALS TALLY
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
LOL
Fuck you're a hopeless cunt
Glossary
GS: Games Started
No, im not including internationl goals now, stop making false claims to depserately extend your lifespan.
Even without Internationl goals, like i posted before, Henry still has the far better record.
I have no idea why you are still arguing this point when I posted proof on the ESPN stats website. Why are you still argueing? Are you a retard?
Its there in black and white for you to read. Your a fucking lunatic. Why do you keep bringing up pointless points like International games? Theres onyla 15 goals difference anyway and Henry is about 60 goals ahead regardless so its a moot point.
Im not debaing this one more post longer, its obvious im dealing with a complete clown who will not ACCPET the fact he has been proven wrong.
AND RVN'S IS 217!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by BONERFARM JERKERWRISTS
YOU STAY LOSIN RETARD!!!!!!
LOL you posted the link and added up THE WRONG STATISTIC
THE WRONG STATISTIC
YOU ADDED UP HIS GAMES STARTED INSTEAD OF HIS GOALS
THE WRONG STATISTIC
GS: GAMES STARTED
G: GOALS
THE WRONG STATISTIC
lol you really have lost this so bad that you try and flip it and switch. YOU started talking about international goals, not me.
YOU ADDED UP THE WRONG STATISTIC
THE WRONG STATISTIC
It's probably in your best interest to stop with your last post.
GOALS: 1+29+17+18+35+30+42+33+32= 237
GAMES STARTED: 3+1+42+37+35+46+56+56+58+34= 368
Here it is, in black and white:
http://soccernet.espn.go.com/players...d=8039&cc=3436
YOU ADDED UP THE WRONG STATISTICQuote:
Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED
You see, I never debated he didn't outscore Henry since 2001, I said RVN HAD scored 300 goals IN HIS CAREER. You brought up the meaningless bullshit of 2001 and Henry out scoring him which had nothing to do with the 300 club and RVN's membership.Quote:
Originally Posted by GHOSTLACED
LOL imagine saying goal.com got their information wrong only to be proven wrong ... BY GOAL.COM
BACKTRACK.Quote:
Originally Posted by BONERFARM JERKERWRISTS
You kept being unclear from post to post about what you meant by career, then started saying dont include National games, then you were including national games,
but the whole time you were basically saying RVN scored more than Henry
That was like, your entire argument. I was never questioning who scored what exactly as the main point, my main point was that since 2001, Henry has scored more.
Which you argued with.
Fact.
Oh and 2001 isnt meaningless bullshit", its when they both started at the Top level, and is the best way to judge them as a pair, im not including RVN's holland goals from before