[Album Stream] WU-TANG CLAN "A BETTER TOMORROW"

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11-30-2014, 09:02 AM
josborne3680

Somebody really say "Pioneer the Frontier" beat sucked? That beat is hard as nails. "Felt" is my favorite track for now. Peace
11-30-2014, 09:02 AM
TheWuSepticTank

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Originally Posted by FasterBlade

actually surprised it got as much positive feedback as it has so far on here. its getting love everywhere else, so a little less than that on here is not surprising. that's usually how it goes

I actually liked it, I thought it diarrheas all over 8D. Which isn't hard to do, but still.
11-30-2014, 09:04 AM
TheWuSepticTank

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Originally Posted by josborne3680

Somebody really say "Pioneer the Frontier" beat sucked? That beat is hard as nails. "Felt" is my favorite track for now. Peace

That beat is tough, very vintage sounding. Even tho RZA kinda messed it up with that whispering, talk rap shit, but other than that, it's one of the hard hitters on the album. Mistaken ID is my favorite.
11-30-2014, 09:07 AM
The blackma

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Originally Posted by TheWuCepticon

That beat was tough, very vintage sounding. But RZA kinda messed it up with whispering, talking rap shit, but other than that, it's one of the hard hitters on the album. Mistaken ID is my favorite.

True ! The beat could be the shit but Bobby messed it up . Too many unnecessary noises ruin it !
11-30-2014, 09:25 AM
TheWuSepticTank

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Originally Posted by the blackma

true ! The beat could be the shit but bobby messed up it. Too many unnecessary ruin it !

lol
11-30-2014, 09:52 AM
CEITEDMOFO

AFTER 1ST LISTEN I ONLY LIKED THE TRACKS THAT RAE WAS CAUSE I KNEW HE WASNT GONNA RAP OVER THE WACK BEATS

REASON WERE SO DISAPPOINTED IS CAUSE WU SHOULD ALWAYS RAP ON KILLER BEATS LIKE 36 CHAMBERS OR WU FOREVER, EVEBN THE W HAD SOME DARK BEATS

SO NOW THE RATING BEGINS

SECOND LISTEN THIS IS HOW I THINK OF THE ALBUM, NOW I THINK FELT IS GOOD ENOUGH ON SECOND LISTEN

1. "Ruckus In B Minor" RZA, Rick Rubin 5:25
WACK SAUCE AUTOMATIC SKIP, NEEDS A REMIX
http://i.imgur.com/d62XXxU.png
0/10

2. "Felt" RZA 3:51
AFTER SECOND LISTEN SOUNDS LIKE IT SHOULD HAVE BEEN ON A BOBBY DIGITAL ALBUM
8/10
3. "40th Street Black / We Will Fight" Mathematics 4:26
THIS SONG SOUNDED GAY THE FIRST LISTEN, NOW SOUNDS LIKE SOMETHING OFF THE W, SO I WILL PROBABLY LIKE THIS SONG IN THE FUTURE JUST FOR THE LYRICS
HOOK IS KINDA GAY THAN HE LETS THE HOOK PLAY OUT TO LONG IN THE END
6/10

4. "Mistaken Identity" (featuring Streetlife) RZA 5:44
GAY INTRO BUT FIRST RZA SEMI BANGER ON THE ALBUM
BITCH ASS STREETLIFE IS ON THE HOOK DIDNT REALIZE IT WAS HIM
SOUNDS LIKE ANDRE YOUNGE HELPED RZA WITH THIS BEAT

8/10

5. "Hold the Heater" RZA 4:08
THIS WAS IN RESPONSE TO RAEKWON SAYING HE STILL HAS TOUGH STREET BANGERS
TOO BAD THE BEAT WAS TRASH AND ME OR SHALLAH RAE WASNT CONVINCED
http://i.imgur.com/W0nV8JV.png
4/10
6. "Crushed Egos" Adrian Younge 2:26
ADRIAN YOUNGE MADE A WU SOUNDING BEAT THAT CONVINCED SHALLAH RAE
MUCH BETTER THAN THE NEW RZA TRASH, RZA STILL MANAGED TO RUIN THE HOOK
7/10

7. "Keep Watch" (featuring Nathaniel) Mathematics 4:25
A NON INSTRUMENTS FINALLY A MATH BEAT, BUT GUESS WHAT RNB HOOK BY A FAG NAMED NATHANIEL
7/10

8. "Miracle" (featuring Nathaniel) 4th Disciple 5:03
ONE OF THE SLUTTIEST INTROS OF ALL TIMES REMINDS ME OF THIS
http://i.imgur.com/Mv1zRQE.png
IT WAS A MIRACLE THAT 4TH MANAGED TO MAKE A GOOD BEAT AFTER THAT SOFT HOOK WOULDVE HAD A WORST RATING IF IT DIDNT HAVE RAE ON THIS
8/10

9. "Preacher's Daughter" RZA 5:13
MORE COUNTRY MUSIC AUTOMATIC SKIP
http://i.imgur.com/X7Bg4zX.png
4/10
10. "Pioneer the Frontier" RZA 3:59
HE KEEPS SAMPLING ODG TRYING TO TELL US THAT THE WU IS DEAD
BUT BEAT IS COOL PROBABLY THE BEST RZA BEAT HE GAVE THIS PROJECT FOR THE WU TANG
MASTA EVEN ADMITS IT
"THIS IS WHAT U WANTED BACK CLASSICAL RZA TRACK"
http://i.imgur.com/4gk3CmS.png
10/10

11. "Necklace" 4th Disciple 4:11
A NICE DARK BEAT I CAN FUCK WITH THIS

10/10

12. "Ron O'Neal" (featuring Nathaniel) RZA 4:28
ANOTHER CHAMBER MUSIC INSTRUMENTS BEAT
4/10
13. "A Better Tomorrow" RZA 4:24
A POSITIVE SONG FOR THE RADIO , IT SERVES ITS PURPOSE THE HOOK IS KINDA OD THO
7/10

14. "Never Let Go" RZA 5:22
RZA SHOULD DEFINITLY LET GO OF THE WU TANG AND GIVE PRIMO OR ALC A SHOT TO PRODUCE A ENTIRE WU ALBUM ..ALTHOUGH THIS WAS WAY BETTER THAN THE 8 DIAPHRAMS
6/10

15. "Wu-Tang Reunion" RZA 3:34
I COULD FUCK WITH THIS TRACK FOR THE FAMILY BBQs
A SONG FOR THANKSGIVING AND XMAS
http://i.imgur.com/WokFb99.png

8/10

ALBUM OVERALL HAS 1 BANGER , 3 GOOD TRACKS AND 3 DECENT
BETTER THAN EXPECTED
GONNA BUMP THAT NEW MOP STREET CERTIFIED INSTEAD
11-30-2014, 09:59 AM
Origin™

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Originally Posted by JEM

The most annoying part of this album by far is Rzas verse on pioneer the frontier
HORRIBLE. That beat sucks too..annoying and too bad Cuz ugod, and Masta killa ripped it

agreed with the beat.
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11-30-2014, 10:03 AM
TheWuSepticTank

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Originally Posted by ceitedmofo

after 1st listen i only liked the tracks that rae was cause i knew he wasnt gonna rap over the wack beats

reason were so disappointed is cause wu should always rap on killer beats like 36 chambers or wu forever, evebn the w had some dark beats

so now the rating begins

second listen this is how i think of the album, now i think felt is good enough on second listen

1. "ruckus in b minor" rza, rick rubin 5:25
wack sauce automatic skip, needs a remix
http://i.imgur.com/d62xxxu.png
0/10

2. "felt" rza 3:51
after second listen sounds like it should have been on a bobby digital album
8/10
3. "40th street black / we will fight" mathematics 4:26
this song sounded gay the first listen, now sounds like something off the w, so i will probably like this song in the future just for the lyrics
hook is kinda gay than he lets the hook play out to long in the end
6/10

4. "mistaken identity" (featuring streetlife) rza 5:44
gay intro but first rza semi banger on the album
bitch ass streetlife is on the hook didnt realize it was him
sounds like andre younge helped rza with this beat

8/10

5. "hold the heater" rza 4:08
this was in response to raekwon saying he still has tough street bangers
too bad the beat was trash and me or shallah rae wasnt convinced
http://i.imgur.com/w0nv8jv.png
4/10
6. "crushed egos" adrian younge 2:26
adrian younge made a wu sounding beat that convinced shallah rae
much better than the new rza trash, rza still managed to ruin the hook
7/10

7. "keep watch" (featuring nathaniel) mathematics 4:25
a non instruments finally a math beat, but guess what rnb hook by a fag named nathaniel
7/10

8. "miracle" (featuring nathaniel) 4th disciple 5:03
one of the sluttiest intros of all times reminds me of this
http://i.imgur.com/mv1zrqe.png
it was a miracle that 4th managed to make a good beat after that soft hook wouldve had a worst rating if it didnt have rae on this
8/10

9. "preacher's daughter" rza 5:13
more country music automatic skip
http://i.imgur.com/x7bg4zx.png
4/10
10. "pioneer the frontier" rza 3:59
he keeps sampling odg trying to tell us that the wu is dead
but beat is cool probably the best rza beat he gave this project for the wu tang
masta even admits it
"this is what u wanted back classical rza track"
http://i.imgur.com/4gk3cms.png
10/10

11. "necklace" 4th disciple 4:11
a nice dark beat i can fuck with this

10/10

12. "ron o'neal" (featuring nathaniel) rza 4:28
another chamber music instruments beat
4/10
13. "a better tomorrow" rza 4:24
a positive song for the radio , it serves its purpose the hook is kinda od tho
7/10

14. "never let go" rza 5:22
rza should definitly let go of the wu tang and give primo or alc a shot to produce a entire wu album ..although this was way better than the 8 diaphrams
6/10

15. "wu-tang reunion" rza 3:34
i could fuck with this track for the family bbqs
a song for thanksgiving and xmas
http://i.imgur.com/wokfb99.png

8/10

album overall has 1 banger , 3 good tracks and 3 decent
better than expected
gonna bump that new mop street certified instead

lmfaoooo
11-30-2014, 10:03 AM
Origin™

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Originally Posted by CEITEDMOFO

GONNA BUMP THAT NEW MOP STREET CERTIFIED INSTEAD

repped!

that new MOP is dope. can't wait for their new album + hopefully the premo album to!
11-30-2014, 10:04 AM
CEITEDMOFO

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Originally Posted by Origin™

agreed with the beat.
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THAT BEAT WAS THE ONLY GREAT RZA BEAT ON THE ALBUM
http://i.imgur.com/KbiG5xl.png
11-30-2014, 10:13 AM
CEITEDMOFO

Necklace was probably for killa sin

killa sin would have ripped it
11-30-2014, 10:45 AM
Pattch82

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Originally Posted by TheWuCepticon

No, The Source was the biggest hip hop publication at that time, that still mattered most, and gave The W only 3.5 mics. That was WITH Wu on the cover, and still gave them a mediocre score, and earlier that year they gave Supreme Clientele a 4.5/5. Also, even Wu didn't seem think it was up to par, the reason why they released Iron Flag the following year. Wu never released albums back to back, and definitely not that fast. They obviously felt like most fans felt about The W, that it lacked the aggressive raw content. That's the reason why Iron Flag sounds more aggressive overall, whereas, The W was them attempting to be more mainstream. Hence the reason for having songs like Gravel Pit with a Flintstones inspired video, Jump Off at an attempt for some radio play with a colorful throwback 80s club video. And having so many big name platinum artists (at that time) that they broke bread with during the years, featured on there. It's obvious what they (or RZA) tried to do, that album was far from a traditional Wu album, it was soft compared to Forever, and dumbed down lyrically compared to Forever, over featured, and going for more mainstream appeal. When I get a Wu cd I wanna hear the Wu, and only Wu....not Snoop Dogg over a garbage, lazy, Bobby Digital beat with ODB.

Wu actually released Iron Flag so soon after The W because Loud Records was going under. Iron Flag was released to try and keep the label afloat.

I think the same goes for Mobb Deep's Infamy album.

The W is ill and is one of my favourites in the whole Wu catalogue. When it dropped it really was considered a sort of 36 Chambers 2000.

Peace!
11-30-2014, 11:14 AM
soob

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Originally Posted by Pattch82

Wu actually released Iron Flag so soon after The W because Loud Records was going under. Iron Flag was released to try and keep the label afloat.

When did you have info like that? I've never heard of it
11-30-2014, 11:35 AM
TheWuSepticTank

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pattch82

Wu actually released Iron Flag so soon after The W because Loud Records was going under. Iron Flag was released to try and keep the label afloat.

I think the same goes for Mobb Deep's Infamy album.

The W is ill and is one of my favourites in the whole Wu catalogue. When it dropped it really was considered a sort of 36 Chambers 2000.

Peace!

Mobb Deep were kinda due an album that year, because Murda Muzik was a big hit, and came out in 99. Plus, P was anxious to respond to Jayz after the Takeover diss, a few months prior to it that year. But anyway, The W, was never considered a new 36 Chambers, ever. Never heard that, because nobody said that (I'm not even that much of a Stan). Nothing on it sounds anything remotely like 36 Chambers (besides the Shaolin Finger Jab beat, Hollow Bones, maybe). The W wasn't aggressive, 36 Chambers wasn't trying to be radio friendly, and didnt feature any other artists outside of the Clan on it (certainly not star studded features). So its silly to call it that. The W was made because RZA promised an album in 97, for the year 2000. And it felt that way, half assed, and lazy, just to fulfill an obligation. And regardless of whatever Loud was going through, Iron Flag still felt like them trying to make up for their weak comeback, with more aggressive content like Uzi, Yall Been Warned, Radioactive, Iron Flag/The Glock, In The Hood etc. In fact, The W title track was merely part of a skit on the actual album, and it was aggressive and dope .... but RZA ended putting it on the Iron Flag album. Thats kinda proof right there that he didnt want The W to be that raw, he was aiming for mainstream appeal. The W is not a classic, it's very average for Wu, because they set too high of a standard for themselves in the 90s. Supreme Clientele put them back on the right track, and RZA derailed the train once again, with The W.
11-30-2014, 11:40 AM
TheWuSepticTank

Quote:

Originally Posted by soob

When did you have info like that? I've never heard of it

Yeah me neither, it probably came from the same source that said The W is "36 Chambers 2000".

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