Poker Discussion

What Do You Guys Think Of Actually Poker Rooms In Casiono's?

I Went To Atlantic City The Other Day And I Got To Say I Really Didnt Enjoy The Poker Room At All I Got Up And Left In Like An Hour. First Off They Throw You In This Room Seperated From The Rest Of The Casino And Sit You At A Table With All These Annoying Lame People. It Got Boring Real Quickly. I Dont Know Maybe I'm Just Use To Playin With All My Friends But I Couldnt Take It For Long.

Are The Sattilite Tournments Better Or Are They More Of The Same?

When you play at a casino, you must realize that there is a strong likelihood that two or more of the players at the table at least know each other or are flat out colluding. Many times this can lead to an all in all uncomfortable experience, as that is their goal, to destroy your comfort zone and make you want to lose. Bring an I POD. Satellite tournaments are good because they don't last long, usually run under two hours, so its like wham bam thank you maam.

yo Beautifulrock I got a problem!
I played lately with these guys I know but never knew they play poker. They only play cash games and before I played with them I use to win 80% of the time. Since I started playin with them I won maybe 40% of the time. These guys call everything, they raise all the time and money have no mean for them, they dont give a fuck if they loose 1000$ /night. they use to bet preflop big amounts of money. If I survive the first 2 hours and build a nice stack I win most of the time but if I dont then it's a loss fo sho'. sometimes I call desperately and find the guy bettin a 100$ for a pair of 8 for exemple when theres 3 bigger cards in the flop. they're crazy but what can you do against someone who throws big money like he dont care? Sometimes I call but when I loose I have to recave, I care about it and they dont.
help me! :)

I hear this all the time, about cash games with loose players who don't seem to care about money.

Right off the bat, a few things to consider before even playing...

1. Is this game completely "clean"
A. Are the players pooling their money, I. E. do 1 or more players get into an unusual amount of pots together, or does one player seem to dump often to another?
B. Does one player's deals cause incredible action? Do you have a crooked dealer?
C. Does it seem like everyone elses sole intent is to break you. Do other players out of the pot react to pots you win/lose

2. Do I have the proper bankroll to play in this game?

A. Will losing change my mental mindstate, affect me personally/professionally
B. Will I be able to walk away once I've won/lost more that I want to?
C. If I lose will it restrict my ability to play again? Am I risking too high a percentage of my bankroll to recover?

3. Am I good enough to play? Am i right for the game?

A. Am I better/worse than my competition? Are they so much better that i am really relying on luck to win?
B. Do I play a style compatible for a win against their styles? This is the one I will discuss with you in detail if you decide you really want to play in this game.

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Originally Posted by beautifulrock

I hear this all the time, about cash games with loose players who don't seem to care about money.

Right off the bat, a few things to consider before even playing...

1. Is this game completely "clean" Yes
A. Are the players pooling their money, I. E. do 1 or more players get into an unusual amount of pots together, or does one player seem to dump often to another? no, they ruin themselves too
B. Does one player's deals cause incredible action? Do you have a crooked dealer? yes we have one
C. Does it seem like everyone elses sole intent is to break you. Do other players out of the pot react to pots you win/lose no not more than for the rest of the players

2. Do I have the proper bankroll to play in this game?

A. Will losing change my mental mindstate, affect me personally/professionally I put a limit I dont have to go under so most of the time I stick to it and it's ok
B. Will I be able to walk away once I've won/lost more that I want to?
C. If I lose will it restrict my ability to play again? Am I risking too high a percentage of my bankroll to recover? no

3. Am I good enough to play? Am i right for the game?

A. Am I better/worse than my competition? Are they so much better that i am really relying on luck to win? no, I can handle most of the time and it's not their skill that make them like that, it's their relation with the money. Example: one of them came to play and he said he have a date in one hour, so it's like he knew he wont go to the limit but he put 200$ in the game anyway and lost them.
B. Do I play a style compatible for a win against their styles? This is the one I will discuss with you in detail if you decide you really want to play in this game. thats my problem, do I have to keep my style or change it to suit their game?

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voila

Ok you seem to believe you can handle the game so now I will tell you how to crack it.

Find a poker buddy, the tightest you can find and get him in the game, this should slow the game down 10-25%, If he can't thats okay, but I like to have a friend along, not to collude, per se, but we agree to play "honestly" against each other ie tip your hand by the way you bet. I don't bluff my friend, I check when on a draw or don't have a hand.

Now you want to play what as known as check-call style...that is you want to let all the action come to you. If you are a good enough reader, you will begin to realize if you are beat or not and therefore dictate the betting action in the later betting rounds. This stlye works best when you flat out ignore position, in fact the more you raise in early position preflop, the better. The idea is to isolate against one player if possible and out of position, after the flop you almost always check first to see and react to your opponents bet. (Use the Check in the dark, it confuses opponents and disguises your hand) Checkraises and call downs are utilized often and river play is absolutely essential, you must not get to three bets without the nuts. The hardest part of this style is reading that final river bet as either a bluff or a real hand. A lot of times even with a great hand I will check first onthe river and simply call a bet rather than go over the top to protect myself.

ok thanx man I'ma try this next time, I got a friend with me but we play honestly bluffin each others and all. I'll try to apply this and let you know. thanx again.

Remeber, if you are first to act, many times a check in the dark will confuse your opponents by disguising your hand and this way you become the last to act. (unless they all check)

roger!

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^^^very nice makes the five cashes I had yesterday look like shit.

just wanted to let you know it worked and I played friday and saturday and tried to isolate one player for each good hand I have. I took a friend with me and didnt play against each other. I won alot of $ during these 2 games. thanx again...your technique seems to work :)
peace

^^^you're welcome, anytime.

nice work guys.

on the side, how many chips can you guys shuffle? I havent done it long but I can do 8 each side perfectly every time.

^^^28 is my record 14 each side, i do 12 regularly