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digital art makes me nervous
why?
alot of stuff that you wouldn't expect is being done digitally
it can be done poorly, but it's just another medium imo
because what will happen to the penciler soon enough? the inker?
^^^i get what you're saying
but photoshop didn't kill the painter
keyboards didn't kill the guitar
drum machines didn't kill the drummer, etc.
i wouldn't worry about it. it's just another tool in the arsenal of an artist...look at dustin nguyen, james jean or marko djurdevic...these guys use pencil, oils, acrylics, and photoshop sometimes all in the same piece.
i do hate alot of the garish computer coloring that marvel uses for example...when it's used badly, it's an abomination.
im optimistic, but i cant help feeling nervous is all. btw..wheres that sig pic from? im guessin its bachalo.
skottie young's deviantart
spidey and deadpool are teaming up in an upcoming issue of amazing spider-man...written by joe kelly, the dude behind the awesome issues at the beginning of the original deadpool ongoing...it will be epic.
ya, course i kno Kelly....sounds good, and looks good too.
damn skottie young's only doing the cover...never heard of the dude doing the interiors...damn it marvel!
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22067
Deadpool and Spider-Man may not have the biggest brains in the Marvel Universe, but they've definitely got the smartest mouths. This November, in “Amazing Spider-Man” #611, the two verbal gunslingers will face off in a duel to see who truly is the world’s biggest smart-ass. Penning this verbal and physical showdown is Joe Kelly, a writer who's proven he knows Spider-Man and whose three-year run on “Deadpool” in the late '90s is thought by many to be the definitive take on the character. CBR News spoke with Kelly about the story.
Coming back to Deadpool was both an unusual and fun experience for Kelly. “I love Deadpool. He's the corner stone of my career. In a lot of ways I got my writing chops from working on the character. He's fun as hell to write,” the writer told CBR News. “As a general rule I don't go back to things. Once I finish a book I move on and don't even tend to read it; not for any reason other than I become focused and want to move forward. I've always felt, though, that Deadpool was one of the characters I missed working on. The comedy is there and for lack of a better term I love the pathos of the character. In my mind, he's a guy who's hardwired to be bad but desperately wants to be good and that's a great character to write. Then you add into that mix his smart mouth and indestructibility and you have a fantastic character to play with.
“So when Steve Wacker, my editor on 'Amazing Spider-Man,” and I were talking one time he asked me, 'What do you think about doing a one-off with Spidey and Deadpool?'” Kelly continued. “Spider-Man is my favorite character as a kid and Deadpool in a lot of ways is my favorite character that I've ever worked on, so I thought it was a great opportunity.”
Joe Kelly admits it’s weird to be back with Deadpool, though. “It's like somebody you were really close to and haven't seen for a long time and you want to get back into a groove. You know it's not going to be the way it was before but you are looking forward to what it is going to be now.”
In a lot of ways, Deadpool is still the same character Kelly penned all those years ago, but subsequent creators have developed new methods to help illuminate Wade Wilson's insane world, like his three dueling inner monologues and “Pool-O-Vision,” whereby readers see the world from Deadpool's unique perspective. “I think all that stuff is funny. I really like it,” Kelly said. “I've been playing a little catch up on where the character is at now and I love the idea that Deadpool breaking the fourth wall gets exploited by different writers and I like how they experiment with it. I haven't quite decided how much of that I'm using and what aspects are going to play out but I think it's all cool.”
For Kelly, another other appeal of writing an “Amazing Spider-Man” issue where Spidey and Deadpool face off was the character dynamics. “When we did 'Deadpool' #11 [in the first volume of the series] we did a 'Forrest Gump' take and had Deadpool go back into the old Spider-Man book,” Kelly recalled. “That was sort of me thinking, 'Let's get these two characters together but not really,' because we knew it would be a big deal and back then we were still living in the land of 'our book will probably be canceled any second.' So we didn't have any real push to do a big Spidey story, but I had always wanted to put those two guys together because of the idea that Deadpool is sort of a dark reflection of Spider-Man; in a lot of ways he's a road that the character could have traveled. Plus both are smart asses, so they're just two good to not put together.
“In this particular case we're doing a one-shot story so we're not going to do something huge with them, but there is talk of a bigger project with both characters. For this quick story though I wanted to see these two guys get into a fight that very quickly degenerates into a 'your mother is' joke contest.”
Joe Kelly sees Deadpool as a character that will make the “Friendly Neighborhood Spider-Man” decidedly less friendly. “I described the dynamic the other day as if you went to a comedy show and there's this comedian who's doing an okay job and he's trying to keep things clean but there's this heckler that's just driving him crazy. That's going to become a very ugly confrontation,” Kelly stated. “That's the dynamic you get here. These guys are both funny and they both can't keep their mouths shut but for different reasons. It's like Spider-Man gets pulled down this dark path because his comedy is a little lighter, bouncier, and sure it's sarcastic, but it's not mean.
“Then you have Deadpool where it's like how mean can you be? He can slice you apart with his words. So these guys together will make for some good comedy and I'm looking forward to seeing how they drive each other nuts. The flip of that is going to be, if Spidey is so smart and Deadpool is so instinctive where does Spidey's wit take him in order to cut down Deadpool?”
The Spidey-Deadpool confrontation in “Amazing” #611 falls under the banner of “The Gauntlet,” an overarching plotline of interconnected stories that pit the Webslinger against his oldest foes. In this issue, though, the only enemy Spidey tangles with is Deadpool. “The Deadpool story is a standalone and certainly works by itself but does tie into the bigger story,” Kelly confirmed. “You'll see a subplot that starts in 'Amazing' #600 and it pops up throughout the various stories after. It plays out a little in the upcoming Black Cat story I'm doing. And in the Deadpool story the gig that Deadpool gets hired for is part of the long game.”
Much of “Amazing Spider-Man” #611 is devoted to Spidey and Deadpool's showdown, but Kelly was able to include several important supporting characters into the story as well. “I just saw a really awesome splash page with some of the hottest chicks in the Marvel Universe, so there's a few cameos there,” the writer said. “The story also brings back at least one character that's part of the extended 'Spider-Family.'”
The confrontation between Spider-Man and Deadpool is bound to be hilarious, but it will also have a certain edge to it. “To me, that's a Deadpool thing. If it's straight up comedy I think it can get a little flat, and quick,” Kelly explained. “I think the fact that this ties into 'The Gauntlet' story and Spidey's mindset at being confronted by somebody like Deadpool, who will blow stuff up for a laugh, adds the kind of gravitas it really needs to put an edge to things.”
Drawing “Amazing Spider-Man” #611 is Eric Canete, an artist Kelly has wanted to collaborate with for some time. “The first time I saw his art I wanted to work with him,” the writer remarked. “Periodically we'd cross paths or he'd do something with Joe Casey but to finally have him for a whole issue is just glorious. I love his stuff and his Deadpool is so gangly, nasty and awesome.”
“Amazing Spider-Man” #611 isn't the only Deadpool story on Kelly's plate, but the writer isn't sure yet if he wants to do something more with the Merc with a Mouth. “I am doing a short story in the big Deadpool special that Marvel has coming out and that was fun,” Kelly said. “After that, I don't know. Like I mentioned earlier, there is a bigger Spidey-Deadpool story that might happen, but doing that would be a combination of timing and schedules. At this moment the amount of bandwidth I have for mainstream projects is heavily occupied by Spider-Man, which is fantastic. Spidey has been a favorite of mine since I was a kid and the other guys working on the book have been fantastic. So if I was to do more Deadpool stories it would be something along that road.”
lol@ the first line
y'all check this yet?
http://www.dccomics.com/media/produc...35_400x600.jpg
yeah that shit is gonna be epic.............
Blackest Night is gonna rule
waiting for the hardcover, flipped through it though...it looks tuff...zombie dibnies killed the hawks and ripped their hearts out
gruesome stuff
it was a nice set up. Reis art is whatever. Nothing different. Just the backdrop basically so nothing too amazing but it definitely looks like this is guns be some shit, word up.
Also just got to CA: Reborn... fuckin retarded.
final issue of planetary is finally coming out
http://robot6.comicbookresources.com...ry27-cover.jpg
In 2004, Marvel launched “Punisher MAX,” a new series depicting Frank Castle’s brutal and ultra-violent war against criminal scum. Since then, the series has become the flagship of the MAX line, Marvel’s mature readers imprint. The hugely acclaimed first sixty issues were penned by Garth Ennis, who ended his run on the book in 2008. The series has since been renamed as “Punisher: Frank Castle MAX,” and crime novelists like Gregg Hurwitz, Duane Swierczynski and Victor Gischler have written well received arcs.
This fall, a new era begins for Frank Castle’s MAX adventures when writer Jason Aaron and artist Steve Dillon take over the series and kick off a story that pits the Punisher against two familiar and very deadly enemies. CBR News spoke with Aaron about the book, which re-launches in November with a new #1 issue as “PunisherMAX.”
When Jason Aaron (“Scalped,” “Wolverine: Weapon X”) first started working with Marvel several years ago, he expressed interest in tackling the Punisher. Of course, “PunisherMAX” is an assignment the writer’s very excited about, but Aaron’s also a little intimidated about playing in the house that Garth Ennis built. “As far as I’m concerned, the 60 or so issues that Garth did of ‘Punisher MAX’ are not only the best Punisher stories that have ever been told, but they’re also some of the best comics of the last several years,” Aaron told CBR. “I like the Marvel Knights Punisher stuff that Garth did with Steve Dillon, but the MAX stories are my favorite. As far as I’m concerned you’re stepping in after a guy who’s done the definitive take on the character.”
“I wasn’t the first guy to follow Garth, though!” laughed Aaron. “Gregg, Duane and Victor have all done great stories and they had to bear the brunt of following right after Garth. It’s always a little intimidating taking over these company-owned characters with huge histories, especially if some of your favorite creators have worked on them. But at the same time that’s kind of what’s exciting about it. You get to make your own mark on that character.”
The types of stories Jason Aaron and Steve Dillon will tell in “PunisherMAX” are very similar to those of Garth Ennis and his various artistic collaborators — with one big exception. “With my first arc we’re kicking off one big, long story; there will be carryover from arc to arc,” Aaron explained. “I loved how in Garth’s run it felt like you’d have a new book every five or six issues. There would be some carryover but you could pretty much pick up any arc of the series and get everything you needed to know from it. That’s actually what I’m trying to do right now with ‘Wolverine: Weapon X’ but with ‘PunisherMAX’ we’re doing a more long form story.”
http://images.comicbookresources.com...001_col_sm.jpghttp://images.comicbookresources.com...007_col_sm.jpgSteve Dillon pages from "PunisherMAX"“PunisherMAX” pits Frank Castle against MAX counterparts of two of his most cunning Marvel Universe foes, Bullseye and Wilson Fisk, the Kingpin. “The idea of being able to introduce some Marvel characters into the book was something I found really exciting and it gave a new twist to things,” Aaron said. “Instead of me just coming on to do the same types of stories Garth had done so well for so long, this was my chance to mix it up and do something different.
“This story is the Punisher’s war against the Kingpin and Bullseye and where that leaves him as a character. Frank is going to have a hard time bringing the Kingpin down. All told, I think this story will be Frank’s biggest challenge. It will take him lower than he’s ever been and to some dark places that he never wanted to go to. So it’s going to be a real challenge for him to face all the enemies that are lining up against him.”
The MAX versions of The Kingpin and Bullseye will still be recognizable to fans, but their introduction to the overtly gritty “PunisherMAX” means the characters will have undergone some changes. “We meet Wilson Fisk in the first arc and it gives his origin. He’s not the Kingpin yet. He’s a bodyguard for a mob figure,” Aaron explained. “So the first arc is really about how he becomes the Kingpin; the plot which he devises and how the Punisher plays a part in that. And with the Kingpin around obviously Bullseye is not going to be too far behind.”
“Bullseye won’t be in costume,” Aaron continued. “Everything in the ‘PunisherMAX’ world has to be real. Everything these characters do needs to be something that people can actually do. So we won’t see Bullseye killing people with toothpicks or playing cards. It will be a different take on the character but something that still stays true to what he is; he’s the assassin who never misses.”
With the Punisher facing down the Kingpin, Bullseye and hordes of other enemies in Aaron’s story, one thing is for certain — there will be blood, and lots of it. “Steve Dillon has gotten to draw some of the stuff you’d expect to see Steve draw in terms of outrageous violence and bodily harm that befalls various people,” Aaron said. “I think it’s exactly the sort of stuff that people want to see Steve draw and it’s what Steve was born to draw.”
http://images.comicbookresources.com...021_col_sm.jpgSteve Dillon page from "PunisherMAX"For Jason Aaron, working with Dillon on “PunisherMAX” has proven to be a highly enjoyable but sometimes scary experience. “It’s not just the Punisher work that Steve did with Garth, but I’m also the world’s biggest ‘Preacher’ fan. Every week it came out, it was the first book at the top of my stack; I loved it,” the writer stated. “And getting these first few pages from Steve was one of the most surreal and incredible experiences of my career. It’s a huge thrill to be working with him.”
“PunisherMAX” will be similar to Jason Aaron’s stint on “Ghost Rider” in that he’s interested in telling one long tale with a beginning, middle and end. But the writer isn’t ruling out taking another tour of duty with Frank Castle once he finishes chronicling the campaign against the Kingpin. “We’ll see. I think I’ve got more Punisher stories in me,” Aaron said. “Right now I’m just planning for this and working to give fans something that will satisfy their need to see the Punisher blow away people and inflict great damage on them, but at the same time something that will explore a little of his character.”
“PunisherMAX” #1 goes on sale in November from MAX Comics.
I really hope he can vamp up bullseye... the character has so much potential and with the direction he's going i can't wait to see what he does with him. the art looks lame.
ya steve dillon's artwork is so boring to look at...i partially blame him for the failure of the first 20 or so issues of Wolverine Origins...and he's also why I've been so reluctant to pick up Preacher...all of his faces look like sneering British people.
lol
he is single handedly why I didn't read Origins. I tried the first issue but it didn't fit with how good it was written. I ended up going back and reading them digitally.
its a shame he's doing the art cause I don't see him having a positive impact with MAX. I think the art should being out the nature in the story. his style isn't max material.
as far as writing I hope aaron can keep it rolling. I have faith but we'll see
his style is just so bland and non dynamic...he never changes his 'camera angles', there's no use of shadow, his layouts are boring...he's like dave gibbons (Watchmen) with none of the skill or innovation. It boggles my mind that some writers praise his artwork and specifically his use of facial expressions...all of his characters look the same, same mouths, noses, teeth, etc.
he's one of the few artists that actually piss me off looking at their stuff...they should've brought back goran parlov...or the artist that did the punisher max annual and the storyline where he was in mexico...what was that dude's name? he captured the mood perfectly
you talkin about campbell?
i thought i was alone in hating Dillon...guy blows.
and co fuckin sign on Cambell...he is to me, the ideal artist for MAX. Loved girls in white dresses.
I wanna hear someone honestly defend him just to hear an appreciation aspect... then laugh. as for him being praised I wonder if they being humble or honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by Dusk
^^^garth ennis and daniel way both have sung the guy's praises for some unfathomable reason
and yes, lawrence campbell would be the perfect artist for this book...or the guy who drew the first arc of punisher max and the special where punisher was in prison with the old gangsters would be perfect as well.
dillon's art has no mood to it at all...he utterly sucks.
ok. i will accept your challenge,sir.Quote:
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i'm not that hyper-critical and i cant draw worth a fuck either. and although dillons style is simplistic and pretty unremarkable for the most part, i kinda like the guy. i guess i am kinda biased, cause preacher brought me back to comics when i was not reading them for a while.
i do think his facial expressions are better than a whole lot of people. and he can convey comedy into his drawings pretty damn well. i think he'll do a good job on max, just because preacher was so damn filthy.
i urge you to pick up the first preacher tpb and see if its your thing. i mean, if you just cant look at his art without throwing up in your mouth a little, then pass. but it really is some good storytelling.
and his stuff on wolverine origins wasnt spectacular by any means. but the deadpool/wolvie fight was the SHIT.
i'll give you that his storytelling is good, in that it is clean and conveys the progression of action well but his layouts and panel composition are just so unimaginative...he would be better at drawing something that's primarily dialogue driven. as far as his facial expressions, everyone looks either pissed off or frightened imo.
his wolverine origins work was just painful to look at...check the issues with cyclops and emma frost and wolverine...his superheroes look like some unfortunate schlubs doing cosplay...and his background and environments are generally lacking. i just feel like he can probably draw 5 pages a day or something, it looks like very little effort is put into his pencils.
too bad bianchi didn't do the interiors
there's a reason steve dillon almost never does the covers for the books he draws
its a shame they lure you in with that... then give you this...
http://i28.tinypic.com/f3amn4.png
... this shows no frame progression
and his loony deadpool was disgusting
http://i30.tinypic.com/xeh7o9.png
my daughter could do this
^^^see that's the same face he gives jesse custer, frank castle, and john constantine
the exact same
he's good with comedy, i'll agree with that though
lol yeah i was getting to that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pandemic
@main_man...
your defense for him was 8 mile style... you listed all his flaws then gave a few good points. if it wasnt for the inker he'd be 1 step above a coloring book artist.
lmao@5 pages a day
lol the toss my salad picture did make me laugh though
spider-woman motion comics trailer
http://comicbookresources.com/?page=article&id=22090
the toss my salad shit is actually the only shit i like artistically from those issues..
hey, i didnt say it'd be a perfect defense.
lol @ 8 mile style
just read that blackest night, though. that shit was pretty good.
and please read scalped. it's just damn good.
I thought it was really good. I wanna see how much johns steps his story game up for BN. I like his GL work. dude just lunged and bit that cat in the neck!
ill check that out
Hawkman and woman now? tss.
^^^the scene was pretty nasty
but
didn't they already die in final crisis?
i dont remember that...btw..j'ohn is now officially the man..eloels.