UFO/Alien Chronological Thread Directory.

Alaska's 1986 UFO sighting;
This case is one that needs a place in this directory, a case that to this day is still in essence a real mystery and one that could just be the smoking gun that proves not only that we are not or every have been alone in this universe,well this one at least and that we have possibly been visited in some form or another;The information gathered on this case will be presented in sections;
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Alaska's 1986 UFO sighting still rouses curiosity;

KTUU Channel 2 News (Alaska), November 8, 2002;

Summary:
Although man has walked on the moon and orbited the earth, there is still no proof that intelligent beings exist on other planets. Yet scientists believe there could be. There is even one account to suggest aliens have flown over Alaska. "Either there's something there or there isn't it," says former FAA division chief John Callahan. "Is it a spaceship or not? Why would they say it's a spaceship if it's not? The radar ain't lying."

Washington, D.C., Nov. 8 - Although man has walked on the moon and orbited the earth, there is still no proof that intelligent beings exist on other planets. Yet scientists believe there could be.

There is even one account to suggest aliens have flown over Alaska.
For generations, man has fictionalized what it would be like to meet aliens or unidentified flying objects. But again, that's just fiction. This may be fact.
"Either there's something there or there isn't it," says former FAA division chief John Callahan. "Is it a spaceship or not? Why would they say it's a spaceship if it's not? The radar ain't lying."

Radar reports were part of what Callahan investigated while working for the Federal Aviation Administration in 1986. The investigation stemmed from a report by a Japan Airlines 747, as it flew about 50 miles from Anchorage. An inexplicable image appeared on air traffic control and military computers, and the three pilots flying the plane claimed they saw a UFO.

"The pilot has it on his radar, and then the pilot and the other two guys in the cockpit look out the window, and they see him over here, and they see him over there, and they see him over here, and for 31 minutes," Callahan says.
The FAA said the incident was due to a radar malfunction. The CIA believed the pilots, Callahan says, but it buried the story. "The CIA said it was a UFO. The CIA said we're not going to tell the public, because it would scare the public. They told me that."

Stories like Callahan's were the subject of a symposium Friday in Washington, D.C. Reputable scientists and even a former NASA official concluded such stories may be more than just the visions of those with active imaginations.
"Within our own backyard, the Milky Way Galaxy, there could be literally 50 billion planets, of which 10 percent may be earthlike in nature," says Dr. Michio Kaku of City University of New York. "So it's hard to believe that God would create a universe and waste it, making all these barren planets."


Scientists say more funding needs to be devoted to determining if there is life on other planets -- and they acknowledge there is also the challenge of getting people to accept the idea of alien life.

That's an idea Callahan accepted two decades ago. "What I'm hoping is, before I die, to be able to say I told you so," he says.

Callahan continued to work for the FAA after the Japan Airlines incident. He is now retired and does some aviation consulting.
link;http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1322.htm
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"AFTER the plane levelled out he observed "lights that looked like aircraft lights, 30 degrees left front, 2,000 feet below us, moving exactly in the same direction and with the same speed we were." At that time the airplane was flying at about 525 kts (nautical miles per hour) ground speed (972 km/hr or 605 mph) according to the tracking data (3); Subsequently the speed decreased to about 500 kts".
link; http://brumac.8k.com/JAL1628/JL1628.html
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Communication between JAL Captain Terauchi and ground controllers was published by the Federal Aviation Administration:


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Disclosure Project: Testimony of John Callahan, Former FAA Division Chief;
Disclosure Project Briefing Document - Executive Summary;

Summary:

" For 6 years Mr. Callahan was the Division Chief of the Accidents and Investigations Branch of the FAA in Washington DC. In his testimony he tells about a 1986 Japanese Airlines 747 flight that was followed by a UFO for 31 minutes over the Alaskan skies. The UFO also trailed a United Airlines flight until the flight landed. There was visual confirmation as well as air-based and ground-based radar confirmation".

FAA Division Chief John Callahan: October 2000

For 6 years Mr. Callahan was the Division Chief of the Accidents and Investigations Branch of the FAA in Washington DC. In his testimony he tells about a 1986 Japanese Airlines 747 flight that was followed by a UFO for 31 minutes over the Alaskan skies. The UFO also trailed a United Airlines flight until the flight landed.

There was visual confirmation as well as air-based and ground-based radar confirmation. This event was significant enough for the then FAA Administrator, Admiral Engen, to hold a briefing the next day where the FBI, CIA, President Reagan’s Scientific Study Team, as well as others attended. Videotape radar evidence, air traffic voice communications and paper reports were compiled and presented.

At the conclusion of this meeting, the attending CIA members instructed everyone present that ‘"he meeting never took place" and that "this incident was never recorded." Not realizing that there was additional evidence, they confiscated just the evidence presented, but Mr. Callahan was able to secure videotape and audio evidence of the event.

JC: Chief John Callahan SG: Dr. Steven Greer

JC: …Now in the 747 they have radar in the nose that picks up the weather outside there. So his radar is picking up a target. He sees this target with his eyes. And the target, the way he described it, was a huge ball with lights running around it. And I think he said it was like four times as big as a 747!
And the military man said something like, yeah, I see him 35 miles north of Anchorage…


The UFO was bouncing around the 747 here. And when he would say that, the military guy would cut in and say, he’s now at 2:00 or 3:00 and he would confirm the position. The military controller has, what they call, height-finding radar, and they have long-range radar and short-range radar. So if they don’t catch it on one of their systems they catch it on the other. And if you listen to the military man, at one time he said, I have it on the height radar, or my range radar, which indicated that they had a target on his system. Well they ran through for the best part of 31 minutes…

Then the next day I got a call from someone with the Scientific Study Group [for President Reagan], or the CIA, I’m not sure who it was, the first call. And they had some questions about the incident. And I had said, I don’t know what you are talking about, you probably want to call the Admiral [FAA Administrator Engen].

Well a few minutes later the Admiral calls down and says, I have set up a briefing tomorrow morning at 9:00 am in the round room. Bring all the stuff you have. Bring everybody up there and give them whatever they want. We want to get out of it. Just let them do whatever they want. So I brought all the people from the Tech Center. We had all kinds of boxes of data that we had them print out; it filled up the room. They brought in three people from the FBI, three people from the CIA, and three people from Reagan’s Scientific Study team — I don’t know who the rest of the people were but they were all excited…

When they got done, they actually swore all these other guys in there that this never took place. We never had this meeting. And this was never recorded.

SG: Who said that? Who was saying that?

JC: This was one of the guys from the CIA. Okay? That they were never there and this never happened. At the time I said, well I don’t know why you are saying this. I mean, there was something there and if it’s not the stealth bomber, then you know, it’s a UFO. And if it’s a UFO, why wouldn’t you want the people to know? Oh, they got all excited over that.

You don’t even want to say those words. He said this is the first time they ever had 30 minutes of radar data on a UFO. And they are all itching to get their hands onto the data and to find out what it is and what really goes on. He says if they come out and told the American public that they ran into a UFO out there, it would cause panic across the country. So therefore, you can’t talk about it. And they are going to take all this data…


Well when they read the reports that came through the FAA decided it had to protect themselves — you can’t say you saw a target, even though this is what he said. So they made him change his report to say "position symbols," which makes it sound like it wasn’t really a target. Well if it’s not a target then a lot of the other position symbols that we are separating [on radar] aren’t targets either. And when I read that, I thought oh, there is something fishy here, that somebody is worried about something or other and they are trying to cover up.

When the CIA told us that this never happened and we never had this meeting, I believe it was because they didn’t want the public to know that this was going on. Normally we would put out some type of a news release that such and such happened…

The only ones that see a UFO in the TV programs are the rednecks out in the country that are going coon hunting or alligator hunting at night. You don’t find anybody with any kind of smarts or some professional individual saying hey, last night let me tell you what I saw. They don’t display that in the United States. So if you talk about seeing a UFO, you are putting yourself in a funny kind of category. That’s probably one of the reasons why you don’t hear about it anymore. But as far as I’m concerned, I saw a UFO chase a Japanese 747 across the sky for over half an hour on radar. And it’s faster than anything that I know of in our Government.


Well, I’ve been involved in a lot of cover-ups with the FAA. When we gave the presentation to the Reagan staff I was behind the group that was there. And when they were speaking to the people in the room, they had all those people swear that this never happened. But they never had me swear it never happened. And it always bothered me that we have these things going on and when you see something or you hear something on the radio or TV, the news, that it’s put down as it’s not there.

I have a hard time saying nothing.
It still bothers me that I’ve seen all this, I know all this, and I’m walking around with the answer, and nobody wants to ask the question to get the answer. And it kind of irritates me a little bit. And I don’t believe our Government should be set up that way.

I think when we have something like this, that you can probably find out more about what’s going on in the world [by not covering it up]. If they [the UFOs] can travel that far, that distance with that type of machinery, who knows what they could do here for the health of the nation, the people, the food they could give them, the cancers we could cure. They have to know more than us to be able to travel at that speed.


For those people that say that if these UFOs existed, they would some day be on radar and that there’d be professionals who would see it, then I can tell them that back in 1986 there were enough professional people that saw it. It was brought down to headquarters, FAA headquarters, Washington D.C. The Administrator saw the tape of it. The people that we were debriefing, they’ve all seen. Reagan’s Scientific Study team, three of those professors, doctors, they’ve seen it.

As far as I was concerned they were the ones that verified my own thoughts about it. They were very, very excited about the data. They had said that this was the only time a UFO was ever recorded on radar for any length of time where it is 30 some minutes. And they have all this data to look at…

What I can tell you is what I’ve seen with my own eyes. I’ve got a videotape. I’ve got the voice tape. I’ve got the reports that were filed that will confirm what I’ve been telling you. And I’m one of those, what you would call the high Government officials in the FAA. I was a Division Chief. I was only three or four down from the Admiral…


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LINKS AND REFERENCES;
Alaska's 1986 UFO sighting still rouses curiosity
KTUU Channel 2 News (Alaska), November 8, 2002

Disclosure Project: Testimony of John Callahan, Former FAA Division Chief
Disclosure Project Briefing Document - Executive Summary

FAA investigates JAL Flight 1628 UFO Sighting
Associated Press, 1986

Statement of Captain Terauchi, Pilot of JAL Flight 1628

UFO FILES: Black Box UFO Secrets (.PDF)
Wednesday, 11th August, 2006

Video: John Callahan, Former FAA Division Chief, dicusses JAL Flight 1628
UFO Symposium at The George Washington University, 2002

FOLLOW UP TO LAST POST;

Video: John Callahan, Former FAA Division Chief, dicusses JAL Flight 1628
UFO Symposium at The George Washington University, 2002

http://www.freedomofinfo.org/science.html

Aboriginals:Their tales Of Extraterrestrials;
Here we have a often over looked but very important treasure of information pertaining to the lore of the ancient natives of Australia , the Aboriginals, this ancient race of people left tales ect of sky people ect and some cave paintings can be found that depict possible UFOs, humanoids ect; Below is a sort of condensed portfolio of some of this peoples myths ect;

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Flying Shiny Eggs and Moon-Man tales.
Indigenous Cosmology and Science;
Extra-terrestrial life - Indigenous and Western Scientific Viewpoint;



"Aboriginal cosmology, dismissed as "myth", has a lot to offer science in the quest for "extra-terrestrial life and intelligence". The problem is defining the terms".

"In an Aboriginal worldview, all things in the universe (including rocks, wood, dirt) are alive, and are intelligent. Contact with intelligent extraterrestrial life in this worldview happens all the time, not only in Dreaming Stories, but in everyday life, with natural phenomena empirically linked to seasonal movements of celestial bodies, also defined in lore as indicators of communication from sky beings".

"The most direct form of extra-terrestrial communication with earth is in seasonal indicators – like for example, when a crocodile appears in the Milky Way it is Autumn and Winter. At that time, the emu up there is upside down, and his rotation determines the breeding cycle of the emu on earth".

"Death is the ultimate form of space travel for many Aboriginal cultures, for people whose spirit goes to the skycamp after the body dies. So really, Aboriginal people are the ultimate space explorers, and the ones who communicate with extra-terrestrial life daily through interaction with the land and the supernatural.

It’s just that in this cosmology, the definition of life is different, and the definition of intelligence as well. These stellar bodies and matter in space that westerners regard as dead and unintelligent hold intelligence and life for us, and communicate with us".


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"Western Scientists are unable to interact with extra-terrestrial life because of the limitations of what they accept as life and intelligence. You need to look at the history of western science here to find the source of this disparity in definitions. The ancient Greek philosophers were the first to put forward the theory of “dead matter” such as rocks and wood and dirt".

" Before that, everybody understood the life in these things. Modern science has discovered the tremendous energy that exists in these objects that were thought of as “lifeless”, but the Greek idea of lifeless matter still persists in western ideologies, and this limits the directions western science can take".

"The ancient Greek scientists also put forward the idea of animals and plants being unintelligent life-forms, thus separating humans from nature, and limiting the concept of intelligence to human thought. This ignores the complex patterns and dynamics in geology, astronomy, biology etc – all complex adaptive systems that adapt and recreate aspects of the universe, and all of which satisfy even the western definition of intelligence, in that they are self-organising".

"Aboriginal knowledge has a lot to offer in the western search for extra-terrestrial intelligence, but this mostly involves a shift in perspectives and concepts of what constitutes “alien” life. (Read more about collaboration between Western Science and Indigenous Knowledge Systems)".

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Origin Of Aboriginal Occupation;
The Scientific Cost of Rejecting the Bible - Part II;

Aboriginal Astronomy;
The very concept of “alien” is a western construct as well. It is part of the “othering” process through which westerners define themselves by creating an opposite, fascinating, terrifying monster that can be viewed, examined and defined as an opposing construct. Aboriginal people and other ethnic groups are often viewed this way in mainstream culture – creating an “other”, an alien, to help westerners define themselves. For example, how can you define yourself as “white” unless you have other people to define as “black”?

This quest for self-definition has been the purpose of the creation of UFO and ET myths in popular culture. Westerners are unable to define themselves as human unless they have a non-human “other” to compare themselves to. The western quest to answer the question, “Who are we and why are we here?” is the driving force behind the creation of fictional aliens and also the search for “extra-terrestrial intelligence”.

As Aboriginal people, we already know who we are and why we are here, and so our quests and our interactions with the universe are different. Our definitions of what constitutes life and intelligence, and other aspects of our complex cosmology, have a lot to offer western science in the future. We only need to move beyond common conceptions of our cosmology as “myth”.

Read more about Aboriginal Astronomy or Dreaming and Quantum Physics.



Read more at Suite101: Indigenous Cosmology and Science: Extra-terrestrial life - Indigenous and Western Scientific Viewpoint | Suite101.com http://www.suite101.com/content/indi...#ixzz1SH3v2fQM

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Australian Aboriginal Culture and Possible Ufo Connections;

BY BILL CHALKER;
(copyright ©1996 - B. Chalker)

This article expands on some material which appears in the book "The OZ Files - the Australian UFO Story".
The author can be contacted at:

P.O. Box
West Pennant Hills,
NSW, 2125,
AUSTRALIA.
Phone: Sydney, Australia + 9484 4680
or by email: [email protected]

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"The legends and lore of the indigenous aborigines also provides material suggestive of interactions with anomalous aerial phenomena. Of course, in speculation about such data, it should be realised that the accounts are of historical and anthropological nature and therefore care should be taken not to interpolate too much into them".

PREHISTORY;
Aboriginal myths incorporate the idea of "sky beings", with the Wandjina being among the most interesting to consider. The Wandjina have been preserved in a fascinating oral tradition and in a large collection of rock paintings scattered throughout the Kimberley region of northern Australia. The paintings have received all manner of interpretations from stylised representations of a pervasive myth system to naive "ancient astronaut" theories.

It is however fascinating to see that the indigenous tribes viewed the Wandjina as "the spirit in the cloud." Indeed, the unique painting style shows a logical sequence from human figures to stylised representations of clouds. This duality of anthropomorphic form and "clouds" is widespread in primitive cultures and finds an interesting parallel in the biblical accounts in "Exodus."

While this line of thought is suggestive of superior "sky beings" acting as cultural catalysts for primitive societies, I should point out that making mythological component comparisons, can make for interesting exercises, full of emotive similarities, but are purely speculative. [1]

ANCIENT TRACES?
There are numerous elements of aboriginal lore in which provocative parallels can be seen with modern day UFO experiences. To argue that identical stimuli may have been involved may be foolish as it is impossible to prove either way. Never the less some accounts are startling. Prosaic explanations are probable but consider the following.


The aboriginal tribe, the Bad, of the West Kimberly area, Western Australia, revered "a supreme being" called Djamar. According to tradition he manifested in a manner highly suggestive of "something" landing and leaving behind a physical record. Of course the reverse can argued. That is that the aborigines invested supernatural dimensions into many prosaic features of the natural landscape.

The young initiates of the tribe were led to the stony bed of a creek and were shown the holes where Djamar had planted his "bullroarer". In aboriginal lore the sound of the "bullroarer" a roaring wind noise symbolised the approach of the god. The original accounts indicate that Djamar's bullroar or "galuguru" are representations of the "being" itself. According to E.A. Worms:

"Earnestly the old men impress on the youths the terrible force of the original tjurunga, by pointing out the baldness of the surrounding hills and the damaged bark of the trees struck by Djamar when he whirled the bull-roarer. It smashed the rocks of the foreshore."


After the manifestation of Djamar, which left behind all this damage, the supreme being himself ascended once again into the sky with his "tjurunga". Such accounts lost in prehistory are full of emotive similarities but beyond that they are only diverting tales of the Australian aboriginal 'dreamtime'. [2]

According to Bundjalung tribal tradition, Salty Lagoon, north of the Broadwater National Park, near Evans Head, on the NSW north coast, was home to a female ancestral being called Gaungan. Described as "tall and slim, with long flowing hair, beautiful hands and long fingernails," when she moved between Salty Lagoon and Wardell, Gaungan often appeared as a shining light. The legends indicate she would try to seduce men into the sea or the lagoon. Tradition has it that Gaungan flew from Woodenbong, landed on a beach near Salty Lagoon and turned into a black rock. [3]

"MEN OF HIGH DEGREE" - indigenous "abductees"
The Australian aboriginal shamans "clever men" or "men of high degree" described "celestial ascents" to meet with the "sky gods" such as Baiame, Biral, Goin and Bundjil. Many of the accounts of ritualistic initiation bare striking parallels to modern day UFO contactee and abduction lore.

The aboriginal shamanic "experience of death and rising again" in the initiation of tribal "men of high degree" finds some fascinating parallels with modern day UFO abduction lore. The "chosen one" (either voluntarily or spontaneously) is set upon by "spirits", ritualistically "killed", and then experiences a wondrous journey (generally an aerial ascent to a strange realm) to met the "sky god." He is restored to life a new life as the tribal shaman.

Ritual death and resurrection, abduction by powerful beings, ritual removal or rearrangement of body parts, symbolic disembowelment, implanting of artifacts, aerial ascents and journeys into strange realms, alien tutelage and enlightenment, personal empowerment, and transformation - these and many other phenomena are recurring elements of the extraordinary shamanic tradition.

At the turn of the last century, anthropologists Spencer and Gillen, in their book The Northern Tribes of Central Australia (1904), provided a classic account of the extraordinary shaman genre.

An aborigine, Kurkutji, was set upon by two spirits, Mundadji and Munkaninji, in a cave: "Mundadji cut him open, right down the middle line, took out all of his insides and exchanged them for those of himself, which he placed in the body of Kurkutji. At the same time he put a number of sacred stones in his body.

After it was all over, the youngest spirit, Munkaninji, came up and restored him to life, told him that he was now a medicine-man and showed him how to extract bones and other forms of evil magic out of them. Then he took him away up into the sky and brought him down to earth close to his own camp, where he heard the natives mourning for him, thinking that he was dead.

For a long time he remained in a more or less dazed condition, but gradually he recovered and the natives knew that he had been made into a medicine-man. When he operates the spirit Mukaninji is supposed to be near at hand watching him, unseen of course by ordinary people."

This is an excellent description of the initiatory experience of an Australian aboriginal shaman. A.P. Elkin aptly referred to these individuals as 'aboriginal men of high degree.' There are numerous other accounts of this kind from the past, from more recent times and the present. [4]

I first drew attention to the similarities between UFO abduction narratives and the initiation accounts of shamans in a paper I presented to an Australian UFO conference in November, 1977. I noted then that "while these accounts often mirror many aspects of the contemporary contactee tales and also a number of the "abduction" cases, further remarkable correspondence can be found in documented shaman lore..."

Elkin pointed out one particularly evocative example of shamanic lore:


"Amongst the powers of the Mara medicine-men is that of climbing at night by means of a rope invisible to ordinary mortals up to the sky, where he can hold converse with the star people. " Eliade quotes A.W. Howitt's "The Native Tribes of South-East Australia", when he recounts the initiation of a Wiradjuri medicine man: "We will go up to Baiames camp. He got astride of a Muir (thread) and put me on another, and we held by each other's arms. At the end of the thread was Wombu, the bird of Baiame. We went through the clouds, and on the other side was the sky.

We went through the place where the Doctors go through, and it kept opening and shutting very quickly. My father said that, if it touched a Doctor when he was going through it would hurt his spirit and when he returned home he would sicken and die. On the other side we saw Baiame sitting in his camp."

In modern parlance we have a lesser, but never the less similar Australian account: "...a beam of white light dazzled my inner eye and I felt myself soar through the air, upwards into the sky and I was spinning all the while ... I was drawn along this beam of light, but then the effort was too much and it flickered away.

Then in what seemed only minutes later I burst back to full conscious awareness ... I was lying on a floor of a room which was dimly lit ... I looked up ... and saw the figure of a man..."This description comes from an Australian UFO contactee and "astral" abductee named Frank Lavery. His account appeared in Psychic Australian, July, 1977.


Even then in 1977 I was pointing out the common denominators between UFO contact and abduction accounts with shaman initiation accounts, for example the alien entity, the period of disorientation, the travelling into the sky in some cases, and the "experience of death and rising again." [5]

Because of the many similarities between elements of shamanic initiation experiences, modern UFO abduction and contact narratives, and even "near death" accounts, the modern travellers of what may be the same realm could be seen as potential "cosmic shamans" of the UFO abduction and contact or "near death" genres.

Because modern society has not recognised the utility of the shamanic experience in interpreting the significance of these contemporary "alien visions", their percipients are seldom able to confront the possible lengthy tradition of their experiences. It should be said, however, many UFO abduction researchers do not accept this interpretation and instead contend we are dealing with bonafide extraterrestrial abductors.

Needless to say a sizeable part of the general community completely rejects any arguments for the reality of these experiences. Whatever the eventual explanation, it is impossible to ignore the parallels between traditional shaman initiation experiences and contemporary UFO abduction and contact reports.

A BURNING TALE?
About six kilometres north of Wingen, an underground coal seam has been burning for possibly 5,000 years. Sydney newspapers in March, 1828, reported that a farm worker saw the mountain area on fire. Initially thought to be a volcano by the settlers who first saw it, it was soon verified as resulting from the underground burning coal seam.

The Burning Mountain Nature Reserve was created to highlight its existence. It was ostensibly named by local aboriginals as wingen (win -- burning, gen -- mountain) or wingen (meaning fire). Kisha, who wrote a psychic column for the Australiasian Post, recorded a bizarre story of a strange flying object landing at Burning Mountain (or Mount Wingen). She attributes the following tale to a man called Ted:

"Grandad used to say that it was cigar-shaped and had a funny silver colour. When it landed it set fire to all the vegetation and killed the cattle. "The noise was dreadful and there was a series of loud bangs. Grandad also spoke of tall strangers appearing in town. They never said anything but always pointed to the things they wanted. "Quite often people just disappeared and dogs and domesticated animals disappeared too.

We always thought that Grandad's stories were good but he knew they were true and never made light of them." Kisha did not indicate a date for the events in Ted's granfather's tale, but presumably its vintage would have to be at least contemporary with the first settler awareness of the burning mountain back in 1828. [6]

AN "ET" ELF IN A MANDURAH HUMPY?
In 1982 a 67 year old woman saw a picture of "ET", Steven Spielberg's cute alien creation. It made her think of an experience she had as a 15 year old girl, near the estuary at Mandurah, Western Australia. She supplied a report to the Perth UFO Research Group which stated: "(In 1930 I was) sitting reading with my parents in a humpy, on a block in Mandurah, in Greary Rd, by the light of a hurricane lamp, with the door partly open. The time (was) about 8 pm as we went to bed early.

"A little pink creature walked in. (It was) about 24 inches in height (with) large ears, big bulbous eyes, covered with a film, small hands, large feet, slit of a mouth, no hair, and shiny as if wet or oily. "We were terrified and my father went white and being a religious man said it was the work of the devil. "Picking up a prawning net, he picked it up in it and it made a noise like 'EE...EE' and my father put it outside.

We never saw it again and went to bed feeling very scared. This was in 1930 and I never thought any more about it until I saw a picture of 'ET,' although only its eyes were the same. ... It did not have a round body, more straight down like a child's body. I cannot remember seeing any sex organs... (It's shape was) like an elf." [7]

Before we leave this quaint tale behind, I will mention anthropologist's Dr. Charles Mountford's description of a "spirit child" in his fascinating study, Nomads of the Australian Desert: "This child, called mulu-kuranti (nose-spirit), was a mamu (malignant being).

Its fingers were twisted, it had ears like a kangaroo, large eyes resembling those of an owl, a grotesque face, and projecting teeth. When Kuntunga (mother of all spirit-children, the "julanja") was suckling this infant, it bit her so often that she finally killed it and left the body in the creek, where it was transformed into (an) irregularly-shaped boulder." [8]

An Aboriginal Women's Abduction Experience in 1933!

Australian mysteries researcher Rex Gilroy records an intriguing tale allegedly from 1933 that reportedly involved an aboriginal woman in a UFO abduction experience at the isolated locality of Discovery Well, on the northern edge of the Great Sandy Desert, in Western Australia. The story echoes the tribal legends and traditions of men and women being abducted by "sky gods" or "culture heros" in the dreamtime and the initiation experiences of aboriginal "men of high degree" or shamans.

In Rex Gilroy's account, the aboriginal woman claimed her tribe had been frightened off from Discovery Well when a "large shiny egg" suddenly came down out of the sky. In broad daylight the strange object flew low over them. Several beings, described as strange, grey skinned and man like, came out of the "egg". The woman said she was "stunned" by an object carried by one of the beings.

Her story indicates she was carried aboard . Inside the "egg" the interior was glowing. She was strapped to a shining table and apparently "experimented with". The woman told stockmen of her experience, but perhaps not surprisingly they laughed at her. [9]

This 1933 tale also anticipates the spate of UFO abduction tales that would virtually domininate the UFO landscape by the 1990s. It was not until 1957 that the sexual abduction experience of Antonio Villas Boas from Brazil occurred. The famous Betty and Barney Hill abduction story in the United States did not take place until 1961. Neither story was well known until the mid 1960s.

Tales Of "Feather Foot" And Phantom Pregnancies;
John Kernott, who does a mail run in the Kimberleys, has heard a lot of strange stories from aboriginals. He told me of tales of sexual contact of an abduction kind that were apparently very common amongst aboriginal women in the Great Sandy and Central Deserts. John told me this before I was aware of Rex Gilroy's story.

Since about 1986, Central desert aboriginal women have told him of "feather foot" spirits (which do not walk on the ground, they walk in the air; they can move through walls and things; they can come and punish people), which he connected with possible UFO abduction situations.

They talk about waking up and spirits having sex with them, having babies, and no baby ever comes. Often their stomachs swelled up , then go down. Their sexual assailants were often described as being like "men in black"! It was often hard to see their eyes. "Phantom" or "false" pregnancies, or missing fetuses feature in UFO abduction lore.

The concept of "spirit children" is also widespread. Such comparisons are fascinating, but ultimately they are difficult to interpret, given the cultural filtering and distortion that is likely in such a fringe area.

In about 1989 John's father-in-law, an aborigine, told him that when he was a young man (in about the 1930s) camping with a group of aborigines, before the white man took them off their land, they saw a green light spinning around in the sky. It landed behind trees. Lots of little men shining with green light came. They walked around the aborigines, looking at them, and then walked back to the UFO, which then took off. [10]

Contemporary Aboriginal Ufo Stories;
Dr. Hannah Wolfe, a teacher, a member of the Anthropological Society of Western Australia and an anthropologist who has done extensive field work at Western Australian aboriginal sites, undertook a trip to the Northern Territory, with the Victorian UFO Research Society's (VUFORS) veteran investigator, Paul Norman, during 1992, to look into a contemporary report of a sighting over an aboriginal community on one of the islands off Arnhem Land, west of Kakadu National Park.


Dr. Wolfe, after talking to aboriginal people and examining their art, had already concluded that elements of their culture seemed to reflect the possibility that aborigines may have been visted by extraterrestrials, during the long history of the idengenous peoples presence in Australia. Dr. Wolfe suggests that examples of evidence for this may possibly be seen in the Wandjina tradition and in a faded cave painting in southern Australian, which depicts a circular, striated image with what may be "rays" coming out of one side.

The cave is linked to a tradition involving a man who came from the moon. While on Earth he lived in the cave. He eventually departed his cave through a hole in the roof and returned to the moon. [11] Dr. Wolfe does not identify the location, but anthropologists, Spencer and Gillen, recorded in their 1899 study that the aboriginal men of the Aranda tribe in the southern portion of the Northern Territory, believed that at one time the moon-man lived on earth.

A pancake- (or it could be said "disc" or "saucer") shaped boulder, approximately two feet wide, in the western Aranda territory was pointed out as the place where the moon-man once rested.

The Ngatadjara tribe of the Warburton ranges, in central west of Western Australia, had a myth which described how a group of women, the Kunkarunkara, were protected from the unwelcome attentions of the moon-man, Kula. Another variation, indicates they were being continuously pursued, and occassionally raped, by Jula, a man of the constellation of Orion. The women, legend has it, finally escaped into the sky and became the Pleiades. [12]

The sighting report Paul Norman had received described a silver elongated object that hovered over the area until an aircraft appeared. Norman and Wolfe were not allowed to visit the area, according to local administrative officers.

On the border of Arnhem Land and Kakadu National Park, Dr. Wolfe was told by a local aboriginal elder, Joseph, that a community to the south-west, had once been forced to run from a UFO encounter. At another place, Joseph indicated, that aliens had abducted an aboriginal child. The two year old had not returned. Norman and Wolfe visited the isolated, river-side community referred to by Joseph.

A local man, Steven, told them that when he was a boy on a station in the area, he had witnessed a UFO landing. A woman there allegedly recieved a telepathic message from the alien beings that they wanted to take her. The UFO left without the woman when the station manager emerged with a gun. The object left behind a physical trace of its landing, a circle on the ground, which according to Steven can still be seen. [13]

Question Of Perspective;
This sort of information argues for a literal extraterrestrial interpretation of such incidents, but one should be careful not to uproot such tales from the cultural setting they emerged from and to stamp them with western cultural imperatives, such as our fascination with extraterrestrials and their possible relevance to UFO experiences.

This caution is particularly relevant to the tribal legends and oral traditions. Even though similarities occur between say UFO abduction stories and the shamanic experiences of aboriginal men of high degree, literal interpretations may be incorrect. Instead of exterrestrials we may be dealing with something else.

The perspectives offered by indigenous cultures such as Australian aborigines may support other interesting possibilities. Such experiences may be about the effect that subtle forces have on humans. Fascinating work is being done on the effects of the natural landscape, "places of power" (or locations of unusual natural energies), hallucinogens, our modern electromagnetic environment, and so-called "earth lights".

These are areas rich in possibilities for the extraordinary worlds of UFO and alien abduction experiences. The popular acceptance of a literal extraterrestrial explanation may be premature or incorrect. [14] I have talked to a number of people about this sort of perspective. Robert Lawlor, author of Voices of the First Day - Awakening in the Aboriginal Dreamtime, provided me with some interesting insights.

He told me that he had come across abduction stories in at least three aboriginal areas, the Kimberly, the Nowra area and Bathurst Island. In each case they were linked with initiation procedures and were associated with a particular place, known to be highly charged with 'spiritual force'. I have already mentioned accounts of this nature, collected by anthropologists. Such abductions by powerful spiritual beings, are almost provoked or are sort as a legitimate or fulfilling part of the young males initiation.

Such events are certainly part of the initiations of tribal shamans -- aboriginal men of high degree. It is well known in the tribal context that such aspects occur in initiation ceromonies. Robert Lawlor had his longest conversations on this theme, in the Nowra area, with a full blood aboriginal, who was passing on the traditions and memories of his father.

He had been dislocated from a tribal environment further south. While the later environment served to erode traditional values, the aborigine had long memories of his father, which were of a magical nature. He talked about a cave area, where young boys were taken by a spirit and had to endure fearful sights, without loss of courage, as part of their initiation rituals. Outside of these rituals, the boys knew to stay away from the cave site. Robert Lawlor suggested this may have been due to the "natural telluric ambience" of such sites, as researchers like Paul Devereux have suggested.

The experiences there parallel UFO abduction tales, but the extraterrestrial perspective is a technological orientated metaphor or explanation. The ET perspective, according to Robert Lawlor, plays into the vanities of modern culture. That perspective is the preferred propaganda in our western world. The indigenous view (the shamanic world) validates the realities and the cultural development of primitive peoples. The former is more palatable in the western technological setting.

Robert Lawlor suggested the rash of modern UFO abduction experiences may be due to an intensification of industrial energies or electromagnetic pollution, and the indigenous accounts may be due to abnormalities in the electromagnetc ambience of the natural landscape. All this tells us that there are many perspectives to examine when considering UFO experiences, beyond the obvious mainstream appeal of the extraterrestrial hypothesis. [15]

An Aboriginal Is Levitated Through A Closed Window During A Ufo Flap In 1971
The town of Kempsey situated on the Macleay River in northern New South Wales has been the centre of extensive UFO activity, since at least 1971. Like a small number of other areas throughout the rest of Australia, sightings have continued, suggesting that factors common to the area are of significance to the manifestation of the UFO phenomenon.

Enquiries into these areas may eventually lead to the elucidation of the nature and motive of this elusive phenomenon. Just after 6 pm, on Friday, April 2nd, at least 14 Kempsey residents observed what appeared to be a pink flare approaching the river from the south. Reaching the river, the light turned, following the course, of the Macleay River, in a north-westerly direction.

It finally disappeared in the direction of Greenhill, an aboriginal settlement area. It was at Greenhill that an extraordinary drama unfolded several hours later on the same night. At about 10.00 pm, an aborigine went into the kitchen of his home at Greenhill to get a drink of water. Suddenly he saw a "small face pressed against the window pane. It had no hair and was the shape of a small saucer".

Too terrified to run away, the aborigine was drawn towards the face by some unseen force. His wife in the next room, heard glass breaking and ran into the kitchen just in time to see her husband disappearing horizontally through the top section of the bottom window.

The 5 feet 3 aborigine was apparently lifted bodily a distance of four and half feet and transported horizontally without any body movement, smashing through a window pane (only I0" by 32") above a sink piled high with dishes. He landed on his back seven and a half feet below the window level, but he wasn't even winded or stunned by the fall. The man's wife rushed outside to see him jump up and run "like hell down to the gravel near the house", where she found him crying and shaking.

"I thought he had the horrors", she said later. She accompanied her husband to hospital where one stitch was put on his finger. The man had been drinking but was sober at the time of the incident. I would think that indeed the experience would be very sobering anyway! [16]

An "Earth Light Infestation" On A Remote Aboriginal Settlement In Northern Australia

Late in 1995, the well known "earth lights" researcher and author, Paul Devereux, travelled to a remote location in northern Australia, with Erling Strand, a Norwegian engineer (who wrote the Project Hessdalen report, covering the extraordinary depth of recurring nocturnal light activity at the remote Hessdalen Valley) and a cameraman.

They were there for 11 nights attempting to document the extent of recurring light phenomena. Dr. David Seargent and I had been assisting Paul Devereux, trying to establish whether the locality did indeed play host to recurring anomalous light phenomena.

This possibility represents great opportunities for serious researchers to actively interact with unusual phenomena in the context of possible repeatable observations and experiments -- potent mainstays of the scientific method. We were open minded as to what was going on there.

The most intriguing possibility was that at this remote aboriginal property we had a recurring anomolous light "infestation" that offered researchers exciting opportunities to document and attempt to understand the nature of the display events. At the very least we were dealing with an area rich in "min min light" style reports and other anomalies.

Our research into the area confirmed that aboriginals in the area were witnessing recurring light shows but its repeatability was questionable. Aboriginals and white people described sighting a variety of strange lights and other experiences. Some of these experiences were also occuring in localities further north. These included transient white lights and "bubble shaped" jelly like things that floated about.

One of these came down near the ground and a man approached it with a cigarette lighter. It appeared to sublimate on contact to a precipitate. On another occassion the same man witnessed a luminscent "bubble" appear to take on the form of a person in what seemed to be a silver suit. [17]

That incident reminded me of a strange event that befell the wife and 2 daughters of a well known country and western singer (whose name is known to me). On a road south of Broome one night in about 1971, while travelling in a truck, towing a caravan, some distance behind the singer's vehicle, they observed a light on the side of the road. Thinking the singer had pulled off, they investigated.

Instead they found that the light came from an extremely large humanoid "figure", bathed in a luminous glow. One hand was outstreched in which there was some sort of ball of light. The "ball" bounced up and down from the ground to the figure's hand, rather in the manner of a yo yo.

The 3 witnesses found they were surrounded by thousands of small mushroom shaped lights, arranged in regular patterned rows as far as the eye could see. Although frightened, they were able to turn the vehicle around and as they drove out each row would go out with the truck tires impact. Whatever it was they were pleased to leave it behind. [18]

Devereux, Strand and company did not see any substantial light activity during their stay, but there were some intriguing events. When they observed flickering lights on hills to the south, their magnetometer started registering anomalies for several hours. The lights however lasted only a few minutes.

Devereux characterised the magnetic anomalies as registering some 800 times above normal terrestrial fields. There were other less compelling observations. Local aboriginals were helpful. Some were in a state of excitement as they had been "buzzed" by a large white light. Paul Devereux was impressed enough to believe that the area warrants further monitoring.

Given the sensitivity and scientific nature of the project, the locality needs to been kept reasonably confidential. Otherwise the potential for further research and the privacy of the aboriginal owners may be compromised. [19]

An Aboriginal "Abductee" Speaks Out

Some aboriginal people are already coming forward to tell of possible UFO or abduction related experiences. For example, Lorraine Mafi-Williams, who has been described as a storyteller and 'liaison officer' for the spiritual truths of her Githebul group from the Bundjalung tribe, has revealed to me some of her perceptions of these intrusions into both aboriginal and western lives:


"Our attitude to what goes on up in the heavens is what rules us Aboriginals. Its similar to religion, whereby Christians believe in a religious world ruled by one God, but many "Saints", we believe the same only the many "saints" to us are planetary ones whom you in the the Western world refer to as ET or aliens.

We call them Wandjinas and Mimi Spirits, and have done so for thousands of years, until 1788, when an English concept of the above was interestingly enough (found to be) parralel to what we have practised for eons; that we commonly refer to as our Dreamtime, that began in the Milky Way.

" Lorraine suggests that communications from these beings is ongoing and cites her own experiences with her "old friend" since the age of 12. She feels she is an "abductee". "... my dear old friend took me up, yes in a UFO, but a different sort to the western beliefs."

Her experiences were more spiritually orientated. She adds, "I went through all or nearly what abductees did ... " Lorraine indicated, "We believe in UFO, but here to we have the aboriginal concept and belief, and we know about abductions and why."

Lorraine has, over a number of decades, courageously tried to act as a bridge between western and indigineous cultures, to improve understanding between both. In doing so, she has occassionally drawn the ire and prejudices of both cultures. One wonders what her expressions on what seems to be interactions with another culture, a native spiritual or an alien culture might lead to.

References:

1: The Art of the Wadjina by I.M. Crawford (Western Australian Museum), 1968;

The journals of George Grey, "Expeditions of Discovery"
The Australian Aboriginal by A.P. Elkin (1954)
Australian Religions by M. Eliade (1973)
The Past is human by P. White (1974)


Yorro Yorro -Everything Standing up alive - Spirit of the Kimberley by David Mowaljarlai & Dutta Malnic, Magabala Books, Broome, WA, 1993
Messengers of the Gods - Tribal Elders reveal the Ancient Wisdom of the Earth by James Cowan, 1993, re; The cave at Wanalirri

2: Djmar, the Creator, E.A. Worms, Anthropos, XLV, 1950, pgs. 643 - 58;
Also quoted in Eliade's Australian Religions.

3: Burnum Burnum's Aboriginal Australia - A Traveller's Guide edited by David Stewart, 1988.
Personal communication from area teacher;

4: Aboriginal Men of High Degree by A.P. Elkin (1945, reprinted in 1977)
Australian Aborigines by Mircea Eliade (1973)

5: Beyond the CE3 down under - Notes on the apparent abdence of contact, time lapse and abduction cases in Australia by Bill Chalker, 1977, UFO conference paper, Surfers Paradise, Queensland, UFOCON3.
"Alien Abductions - a shamanic perspective on UFOs" by Bill Chalker, Nature and Health Vol. 11, No.1, Autumn, 1990.

UFOs - a shamanic Perspective, lecture by Bill Chalker to Theosophical Society, Sydney, June 3rd, 1994.

6: Australasian Post June 17, 1989

7: Perth UFO Research Group sighting report form, 1982

8: Nomads of the Australian Desert, by Charles Mountford, 1976

9: Mysterious Australia by Rex Gilroy, Nexus, 1995
Personal interview with Rex Gilroy, January, 1996

10: Personal interview with John Kernott, September, 1993

11: "Australia's aborigines have long known about UFOs", by Dr. Hannah Wolfe, FSR, Vol.39, No.3, Autumn, 1994;

"Trip to the Northern Territory" by Hannah Wolfe, Australian UFO Bulletin, VUFORS, December, 1992.

12: Northern Tribes of Central Australia by B. Spencer & F.J. Gillen, 1904
Native Tribes of Central Australia, ibid., 1899
Nomads of the Australian Desert, Mountford, 1976)

13: Ibid 11.

14: See the work of Devereux, Persinger, Budden, McKenna, Luna, Harner, Fred Wolf.

Luis Eduardo Luna & Pablo Amaringo, Ayahuasca Visions - the religious iconography of a Peruvian Shaman, 1991, is especially fascinating re: comments on UFO imagery

15: Personal communication with Robert Lawlor, January, 1996
Dreamtime & Inner Space - The World of the Shaman, by Holger Kalweit, 1988
The Way of the Shaman by Michael Harner, 1980
Black Elk - The sacred Ways of a Lakota by Wallace Black Elk & William S. Lyon, 1990

16: "The Macleay UFO Window," by Bill Chalker, in 2 parts, Psychic Australian, March & April, 1977

17: Personal research by Bill Chalker & David Seargent, 1993 - 1996
Personal communications with Paul Devereux, 1993 - 1996

18: Personal communication from James Oram, 1975
The Last Showman - Larry Dulhunty's Larrikin Life by James Oram, 1992

19: Ibid 17.

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The Wandjina of the Kimberley Region of WA;
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"To the Aboriginal people who live in the Central, Northern and East Kimberley region, including Mitchell Plateau and King Edward River areas of Western Australia, the Wandjina has a deep and meaningful relationship with their heritage and their culture. The Wandjina has for many years appeared on bark coolamons which were used for food gathering and for cradles for newborn babes, ceremonial boomerangs and shields and a myriad of symbolic artifacts - the Wandjina is part of the lives of the tribes who have for many many years lived and hunted and survived in the country of the Wandjina rock art".

spaceman???

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In Aboriginal culture, the Wandjina is the Rain Spirit of the Wunambul, Wororra and Ngarinyin language people, the controller of the "Seasons", the bringer of rain which equals water which equals "life".

Then it says that the Earth is hot and that it breathes; the Earth it breathes, it's a steam blow up, and it gives cloud to give rain. Rain gives fruit, and everything grows, and the trees and the grass to feed other things, kangaroos and birds and everything. With the completion of their earthly tasks, each of the Wandjina turned into a rockface image. There, the Wandjina spirits continue to live.


The Wandjina figures are strange, majestic creatures; usually painted against a white background. An oval band encircles the face, except for a break at the chin, and from the outer edge of the head, lines radiate out. They are often shown wearing a headband; eyes and nose form one unit; with lashes encircling both eyes, and they are rarely given a mouth. The body, when there is one, is filled with parallel stripes down the arms and legs. Long lines coming out from the hair are the feathers which Wandjinas wore and the lightning which they control.

Wandjina ceremonies to ensure the timely beginning of the monsoon wet season and sufficient rainfall are held during December and January, following which the rains usually begin. The figures are generally drawn surrounded by the totemic beings and creatures associated with them, on which they depend for sustenance, and these caves and rock shelters become a focus of tribal religion and ritual action.


Aboriginal people believe that if the Wandjina are offended then they will take their revenge by calling up lightning to strike the offender dead, or the rain to flood the land and drown the people, or the cyclone with its winds to devastate the country.

These are the powers which the Wandjinas can use. Aboriginal culture teaches it is possible for new life to emanate from the figures adorning the cave walls, to re-enter the physical world as unborn children. Such places are sites to which local Aborigines have a deeply spiritual attachment. These Wandjina are seen to have considerable powers and the Aborigines are careful to observe a certain amount of protocol when they approach the paintings, fearing that if they do not, the spirits might take their revenge.

This protocol normally consists of calling out to the Wandjinas from several yards' distance, to tell them a party is approaching and will not harm the paintings. Visitors are required to walked past small fires to be "smoked" before visiting Wandjina sites. This is not only to let the spirits know that "strangers" are visiting, but also so that the Wandjina's "strong spirit" would not follow visitors home.


Although the paintings represent the bodies of the dead Wandjinas, the Aborigines believe the spirits of the Wandjinas live on in much the same way as they believe the spirits of human beings continue to exist after their death.


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The most widely known Aboriginal story from the Kimberley refers to a mythical being. In this legend, Wandjina collaborated to fight against human Aboriginal groups and, in the process, kill many of them. The story is one of cause and effect and is told here in an abridged version. Two children were playing with the bird, Tumbi, who they thought was a honeysucker. However, it was really an owl. They did not see the difference in the eyes and thought the bird was unimportant. The children maimed and blinded the bird. They mocked him by throwing him into the air and telling him to fly, but he could not and fell back to earth.


Tumbi was not just an ordinary bird, he was the owl, the son of a Wandjina. This is why he was able to disappear and go up to Inanunga, the Wandjina in the sky, to complain. The news flew to all the Wandjina who determined to punish the people. A Wandjina named Wodjin called all the Wandjina from throughout the country together, and the owl who had been maimed incited them to revenge.

However, they did not know where to find the people, and the lizards and animals which they sent to scout around for them refused to tell where the people were. The animals were sorry for the people, and tried to hide them, knowing that the Wandjina would kill them in revenge for the bad deeds.


But the Wandjina saw the people on a wide flat near the spring at Tunbai. They moved to the top of one of the hills which surround this flat and Wodjin, by stroking his beard, was able to bring heavy rain and floods. The Wandjina divided into two parties and attacked in a pincer movement from the top of the hill. Meanwhile, the Brolgas (birds) had been dancing on the wet ground and had turned it into a bog. The Wandjina drove the people into the boggy water, where they drowned.

The people tried to fight back, but they were unable to harm the Wandjina. The boys who had injured the bird were very frightened by the fight, the rain and lightning, and escaped to a large boab tree with a split in it, where they decided to hide. But the tree was really a Wandjina and no sooner were the boys inside than it closed on them and crushed them. The Wandjina, having achieved their aim and revenged the injuries done to the owl, were now able to disperse around the country.

Were the Wandjinas European religious figures?

Ancient Aboriginal cave painting,classic "GREYS"/ET;?


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The earliest claim to the discovery of Australia by Europeans was made by a French sailor from Normandy named Jean Binot Paulmier De Gonneville, who claimed that, during a two year voyage of discovery with the intent of finding an ocean route from Europe to the East Indies, he landed on the shores of the Southland early in 1504.

In his paper on "Early Voyages to Terra Australis," printed in 1861, British Admiral Burney, and the eminent English geographer, Mr. Major, told of De Gonneville's voyage but dismissed his claim, stating instead that the country De Gonneville's described was the island of Madagascar.

This opinion has been generally entertained by navigators and historians ever since, though others have argued he landed in Brazil (Brazilians celebrated the 500th anniversary of his arrival on their shores in 2004 at Carnivale), however there is much evidence to suggest that De Gonneville might well have reached Australia's shore.

After having rounded the Cape of Good Hope he was assailed by tempestuous weather and driven into calm latitudes. After a tedious spell of calm weather, want of water forced him to make for the first land he could sight. The flight of some birds coming from the south caused him to run a course to the southward, and after a few days' sail he landed on the coast of a large territory at the mouth of a wide river. There he remained for six months repairing his vessel and making exploratory excursions into the hinterland, establishing contact and maintaining good relations with the inhabitants during his stay.

These included a tribe of light skinned people. He left this great Austral Land, to which he gave the name of "Southern Indies," on 3rd July, 1504, taking with him two of the natives, one of whom was the son of the chief of the people among whom he had resided.


Subsequent discoveries, and a closer scrutiny of the Norman captain's narrative indicate that De Gonneville's "Southern Indies" could be the Australian Continent, and that he may well have landed at the mouth of one of the rivers on the north-western coast, namely the Glenelg or Prince Regent Rivers of North-west Australia. De Gonneville's description of the place of his sojourn fits the description of the area, which is quite different to any other part of Australia.


Lieutenant George Grey explored the Kimberley region in 1838 and his description of the natives, their customs, tribal structure and way of life, is not dissimilar to that described by De Gonneville. Further, Grey discovered a series of caves containing what we now know as the Wandjina figures, that he observed were unlike any currently being drawn by the local natives.

Some of these figures resembled nuns with head-dresses and beads (above), not unlike pictures common throughout contemporary Europe of the Virgin Mary surrounded by other women in an act of worship. Of one, he wrote, "Its head was encircled by bright red rays, something like the rays which one sees proceeding from the sun, when depicted on the sign board of a public house."
Of another, he recorded,

"It was the figure of a man, ten feet 6 inches [3.2 metres] in length, clothed from the chin downwards in a red garment, which reached to the wrist and ankles"


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The face and head of the figure were enveloped in a succession of circular bandages or rollers ... these were coloured red, yellow and white: and the eyes were the only features represented on the face. Upon the highest bandage or roller, a series of lines were painted in red ... it was impossible to tell whether they were intended to depict written characters, or some ornament for the head." Grey's writings are an accurate description of a priest dressed in his cassock.

The illustration (right) is from Grey's journal. Grey then found there the head of an European sculptured in the hard rock, evidently with instruments such as the natives do not possess. The sculpture has never been located by subsequent visitors to the area.


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To Grey the art in these caves was a strange mixture of European and Malay art; the former exhibited in the remarkable aureolas which so commonly surround the heads of saints in church windows at the time of De Gonneville; the latter depicted in the dress-like garment over the body, which resembled the matted clothing of Malay peasants (Malay fishermen were known to have made regular fishing trips to the area).



In the tribal history of Aborigines living in the vicinity of Napier Broome Bay on the far North Eastern coast of Western Australia, is the story of how two Portuguese swivel guns named carronades were taken after a battle with white-skinned invaders dressed in skins like those of turtles and crocodiles, a description of European armour. The tribal elders, using the number of past generations to calculate the passage of time, estimated that the intruders were seen about l550 AD, which coincides with De Gonneville's claimed visit to the South Land.


It is well documented that Aborigines in all parts of Australia, on first meeting white people, commonly mistook them for spirit beings. Their common reaction, like lighting fires and throwing stones, was consistent with their method of driving spirits away.

If De Gonneville did land on Australian soil, by the description he gave of his landfall he could have landed nowhere else but at precisely that part of the country visited and similarly described by Grey. The paintings Grey discovered, which today are known as Wandjina, may well relate to De Gonneville and his companions and their practising of Catholicism during their six month sojourn in the Kimberleys.

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Australia's Ancient Astronauts;

By Rex Gilroy;

The Legend of the Silver Bird;

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"From Arhem Land I have obtained the legend of a great silver bird which, according to local tribesmen, landed upon a certain plateau to lay a big silver egg, out of which the first tribesmen hatched; they were white skinned. Around the Ayres Rock (Uluru) region local tradition has it that the ancestors of the Aborigines came from the stars. The legend was related to me by Aboriginal actor-historian Ben Blakenley: -"Long long ago, far back in the Dream Time, a great red coloured egg (spaceship) came down from the skies. It tried to land safely on the ground but broke (crash landed). Out of it emerged white-skinned culture-heroes (gods) and their children".

"The children's elders soon died, either through their old age or because they could not accustom themselves to our atmosphere. The children however were young and able to adapt more easily to their new surroundings. "They carved and painted the likenesses of their parents upon cave walls to perpetrate their memory.

In time the great red coloured egg rusted away until its remains had merged with the ground, thus creating the red soil of Central Australia. "The children of the culture heroes who came from the sky grew in numbers until they eventually populated the whole land, their skins turning black due to the hot climate. The cave art depicting the elders still survives showing figures in garments reminiscent of modern day astronauts.
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Traditions;

"Aboriginal myth and legend, like that of most primitive people throughout the world, speak of "dream-time" culture heroes {gods} who came down from the sky at the dawn of history to impart culture on Earth's primitive cultures. These traditions linked as they are with many ancient archaeological sites give rise to current thoughts that in ancient times our Earth may have been visited by intelligent beings from other worlds.

Perhaps the most fascinating evidence supporting this hypothesis can be seen in the many beautiful cave paintings and rock carvings of early man throughout the world. The cave paintings and carvings of the Australian Aborigines like those elsewhere in the world depict vivid animal scenes and often beside these animals are seen strange human-like shapes and images".

Scholars have long argues whether these are visiting astronauts and their spacecraft, or mythical culture heroes and toltemic designs. Ufologists have pointed out that many of these puzzling shapes are similar to UFO shapes which have been sighted and reported in the 20th century.

The implications are that 15,000 years ago strange shapes were observed in the skies. Whether these were spacecraft containing voyaging astronauts remains unresolved. What I therefore offer is evidence both for and against the theory of ancient astronauts and that they may once have visited and had some influence upon the ancient history of Australia.
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Wandjina Cave Paintings;

Take for example the world famous Wandjina cave paintings of the Aborigines of Western Australia. These human figures dressed in strange garments have been claimed by many to represent ancient astronauts. The myths and legends surrounding the Wandjina claim in some cases that these beings came down from the stars to impart culture to the primitive tribesmen, while other legends say that Wandjina came from the west across the Indian Ocean in great ships in ancient times.

Some researchers maintain the Wandjina figures represent astronauts and place special emphasis upon the apparent helmets worn by the figures. On the other hand I see the Wandjina in a different light-as representations of visiting Egyptian and Phoenician seafarers who may have landed on the Kimberley coastline during South-East Asian trading expeditions over 3,000 years ago.

Archaeologists have pointed to the basic similarities in the garments worn by the Wandjina too those of early middle eastern seamen. These interesting possibilities are further supported by the presence of middle-east blood groups, racial features and Egyptian words to be found among local tribes. Yet there still remain other equally mysterious cave paintings and carvings thereabouts which would tend to support the ancient astronaut hypothesis, including many strange myths and legends extending across into Central Australia.
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Creation Myths {Legends} Blue Mountains;

I have obtained two further creation myths of the "ancient astronaut" variety from the Blue Mountains of New South Wales. Both were myths of the Dharuk tribe which formely occupied a vast area stretching from the Hawkesbury River-Sydney District across to the western slopes of the Blue Mountains. The first legend concerns "Biramee the Bird Man," who laid a great egg near what id now the town of Linden, from which the ancestors of the Aborigines hatched.

The second myth is also described in carvings found upon a slab of rock unearthed during road work operations some years ago. Biame the Sky God created earth out of a big ball of mud. he then took stones from the earth's surface from which he created all the animals and plants, including the first Aborigines. However, Biame had forgotten to give the first Aborigines the power to think, and as a result they began starving to death due to fact they did not know how to hunt food.

So together with his culture heroes Biame came down from the sky in a big dream-time hunt across the Blue Mountains he gave the Aborigines the spear thrower and the boomerang, teaching them how to hunt their food and also to make fire. Then together with his culture heroes he returned to the sky from whence he had come.

The carvings not only depict the sky god Biame but also many strange little figures which were also the totemic figures of the various tribal groups that peopled the area. Among these totemic figures carved on the stone is a strange fish-like object which some have theorised to be space-craft. They also point to a strange human figure clad in garments which could be said to resemble an astronaut; others see a resemblance between this figure and a Egyptian soldier equipped with helmet and shield and say that the above creation myth is more reminiscent of those of the middle-east.

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Blue Mountain Rock Art;

Be this as it may, there are nevertheless some strange rock arts on the Blue Mountains dating back many thousands of years which may yet to be given a convincing explanation by archaeologists. Perhaps the most remarkable of these is the "astronaut's face" found upon a cliff side. Measuring 30 cm in height and 24 cm in width, the mysterious face has been carved by first hollowing out the rock to a depth of 4 inches.

In the center are carved two eyes, nose with nostrils and an open mouth; the area surrounding the face gives the impression of a head encased inside a "space helmet" type covering. Situated some distance around the cliff is a large rock shelter, upon a wall of which is a mysterious flying object.

Heart shaped, it measures 77 cm long by 26 cm width, is painted in red ochre and is depicted emitting a "vapour trail" of grey ochre extending for some 20 ft along the cave wall.Is it really a representation of a flying object? And if so then what relationship does it share with the carved "astronaut's face" nearby? Whatever their importance, these stone-age artworks defy current explanation along traditional lines. Ufologists throughout the world marvel at the famous Nazca Plain "airstrip" and other astronomical formations of the Peruvian alps, yet similar structures are to be found throughout Australia.
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Queensland Rock Formations;

A large plateau near Toowoomba in southern Queensland although now covered in trees was at one time cleared. Scattered upon it are to be found strange rock formations and outlines in stone which when seen from above by aircraft suggest the remains of an ancient airstrip. Elsewhere in Queensland are to be found a number of mysterious pyramidal structures. Claimed by geologists to be natural formations these pyramids often measuring 400 ft high with four sides each measuring 400 ft long at the base, when arranged on a grid are found to connect with one another over distances of some hundreds of square miles.

If not natural formations then what was their purpose? Can we speculate that here were aerial markers for ancient astronauts? It will be a point of interest to Ufologists that a large percentage of unidentified object reports have come from these and other areas where extensive "astronomical" structures have been found.


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Bathurst Stonehenge;

If this is the case then how long has this been happening? There are certainly many unanswered questions about these and other enigmatic archaeological structures found across our continent, particularly with respect to those mysterious granite structures which form the "Bathurst Stonehenge," Australia's answer to the Megalithic monuments that dot the landscape of Europe.

Consisting of extensive stone alignments, standing stones {Menhirs}, stone circles, even carved human heads and other structures, this enigma of our ancient past covers and extensive area over several square miles. Whilst most of the stones arranged to form alignments could have been placed there easily by human hands, there are certain structures which by their very weight and proportions could not possibly have been moved and erected by normal human means.

These include a large circle 30 feet wide erected upon a 4 ft thick granite base and consisting of 10 large granite boulders. One of these has been carved in the shape of an altar stone.Nearby upon a hillside and erected upon a 16 ft wide base of carved granite blocks is a standing stone 15 ft tall and 33 ft in circumference.

Apart from the two extensive stone alignments which are a feature of the "Bathurst Stonehenge" culture, are numerous structures including several triangular formations each consisting of large granite boulders. One such triangle is built of three enormous boulders each spaced 60 yards by 60 yards by 60 yards apart. For a full report of "Bathurst Stonehenge" see {Paranormal Australia, Nov '76}

The two extensive stone alignments pass through a large number of strange formations, these include another alignment constructed of seven enormous boulders which have been erected in a south-west-north-east axis, and passing through one of the alignments of smaller stones ending near the base of a large wall. The wall built of large granite blocks is 15 ft high and 53 ft on length with a width of 30 ft.

It is very reminiscent of other structures found in the Pacific Islands and South America. There can be little doubt that these structures are all part of an enormous astronomical observatory for plotting the heavenly movements and the seasons.Yet who were its builders? And we might ask ourselves, what strange forces motivated this and other races of man throughout the world, to take from about 15,000 years ago such an intense interest in the heavens?
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Possible Visitations;

Could it have been motivated by actual visitations to this planet in dim antiquity by advanced beings much like ourselves from other worlds in the cosmos? Such a possibility is given little or no attention by many other scientists. yet who can dare claim that ours is the only planet in the Universe capable of supporting life? On the basis of a study by astronomer Harlow Shapley it is estimated that there are as many as 100,000,000 planets on which we can speculate that life exists. Among these perhaps 100,000 contain civilisations more advanced than our own.

Willy Ley a scientific writer {now deceased} suggests there may be 18,000 inhabited planets in the Milky way alone. Although our present day space ships would not permit us to travel very far or very fast in space, who knows what our space travel might be in 10,000 years? If civilisation survives that long it could bee speculated that space travel may be commonplace on other planets as driving to the supermarket is for us and if so, perhaps spacemen have indeed come to earth.
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Aboriginal Folklore{Giants};

Not only does early Aboriginal folklore tell of beings who came down from the stars at the dawn of history to impart knowledge, some of these beings according to Aborigines were giants. Certain rock art throughout Australia, like that of other lands throughout the world, is claimed to depict these giant beings often clothed in garments reminiscent of those worn by modern day- astronauts.

Regardless of whether these artworks really do depict giants, astronauts from other worlds or not there can be no doubt the claims of giant races in ancient times is a proven scientific fact. Fossilised jaws and teeth of tremendous proportions have been unearthed from Africa, the near-east, China, Java and also Australia.

Enormous stone artifacts which, I have excavated from Bathurst in central western New South Wales range in weights from 8 to 25 pounds, implements which only beings of enormous strength and stature could have possibly have made and used. One recent fossilised giant man track discovered near Cowra NSW measures 2 ft 5 inches in length by 15 ins across the toes. Another footprint from Katoomba on the Blue Mountains although only half intact measures 18 inches across the toes.

Many smaller giant man tracks exists which are 8 inches wide and 1 and a half feet in length. Nevertheless if we make a calculation based upon normal human stature and constitution, the beings who were able to handle these clumsy stone artifacts and left behind such enormous footprints must have ranged in height from 12 to 15 ft, and even as much as 20-25 feet tall, weighing anything from 800 to over 1,000 lbs!
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Ancient Astronauts Theory;

Although these finds may not be proof of extraterrestrial civilisations having visited earth in antiquity, there is certainly evidence which could be said to lend considerable weight to the ancient astronaut theory here in Australia. The evidence primarily consists of Archaeological finds which imply the former existence on this continent of a race of non-aboriginal man who inhabited Australia before the dawn of history, and who have left behind them traces of a vast astronomical knowledge.

Similar features are to be found elsewhere throughout the ancient world. However, the mystery remains as to how these ancient peoples came by their knowledge often without sophisticated equipment which is only now available too modern man.
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Star and Moon Maps{Astronomers}

In the Gosford district of NSW are to be found "star and moon" maps carved upon flat rock surfaces, often upon mountaintops where a clear view of the heavens could be obtained. These "maps" not only depict th phases of the moon but also the movements of certain stars and planets. In the same area have been found a great slab of stone, hollowed out saucer fashion, into which water could be poured to give a good reflection of the heavens at night.

Mounds of earth heaped up around them enabled the ancient astronomers to look down into the water, for a more comfortable study of the heavenly movements. Similar "star maps" and open-air astronomical observatories are to be found on the Blue Mountains west of Sydney but the race that left them remain a mystery.

Were the Gods of the Aborigines and other ancient people voyages from other worlds? Only time can decide. All the research and numerous volumes devoted to the subject are inconclusive, and raise questions to which there are only tentative answers. In 1969 man set foot on the Moon. and took the first steep towards the exploration of the cosmos. Perhaps only when we can explore other worlds will we fully understand the history of our own.

LINK; http://www.mysteriousaustralia.com/s...enomenonq.html

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Linear vs Circular Logic;
Conflict Between Indigenous And Non-Indigenous Logic Systems;




Jun 11, 2006Woorama;

Aboriginal circular time is considered part of dreamtime myths, while western linear time is considered to be the reality. But does western physics support this?
On Blackfella Time

An Indigenous person in my country who is late for an appointment is often said to be "on Murri time", or "on blackfella time". This term was coined by the colonists to build the myth of Aborigines being inherently incapable of understanding basic European skills like telling the time. Another mythology created for us is that of the "Dreamtime", which places our creation and spirituality in the distant past, and thus relegates our peoples to the past as well - fossilised stone-age cultures to be examined and studied. (Read about the real Dreaming, as opposed to the western construct.)

The Quantum Reality;


Australian history Books about Australian history. Easy to read, well illustrated rosenbergpub.com.au
It is true, western constructs of time can differ from Indigenous concepts of time, but this is more a difference in cosmology than native intellectual deficit. I find it is easier to explain this difference to non-Indigenous people by using western quantum physics theories.

Time is a human construct. Or at the quantum level it might also be seen as being tied up with attraction to objects according to relativity principles introduced by that paragon of western science - Albert Einstein. Time actually runs slower as you move away from earth into space; this has to be factored in mathematically for satellites to be accurate.

The second law of thermodynamics indicates that in a closed system, (eg. earth) that system will tend towards disorder (entropy). That is why time runs forwards on earth, but in other places in the universe time is mathematically impossible even as a human construct, eg at the event horizon of a black hole.

And in quantum physics, many kinds of sub-atomic particles can move forwards and backwards in time, or like photons, not exist in time at all. Read more about the intersection between Aboriginal knowledge and western scientific research here

READ THIS NEXT;

Aboriginal Creation Myths of Australia
Indigenous Cosmology and Science
Understanding The Dreamtime of Aboriginal Australians
Dreamtime Is Now

The creator spirits are not earth-bound or materially based, and as such are not time limited. Therefore the creation of souls is/was/will be simultaneously. My soul comes from a storyplace of my ancestors. It will go back there. It has always been there and always will be. Dreaming stories and songs are the way we continue creation, which is still happening now - not in some "dreamtime", as it was mistranslated fifty or so years ago. It was, and it is. The rainbow snake is still pushing up the mountains. This is a circular thing, and has no time. In this way, entropy through western linear concepts of time is thwarted, and my people and land endure.

Language and Culture.

A lot of Aboriginal ways of thinking and speaking are circular. Kinship systems often spiral, so that in many groups grandfather and grandson is the same word, as is past and future tense. The word for soon and recent is often the same. Stories and sentences are often circular, with repetition used to arrive back at the same point where you started. Cycles of birth and rebirth go on through sacred places, which are referred to simultaneously as times and places (as in time-space in western physics).

When you consider this mismatch of logic systems, it is easy to see why there are so many problems with communication between native and non-native peoples. Maybe if Einstein had been able to sit down with some tribal clevermen to discuss relativity - well who knows? If you read back through this article, you might see a lot of common ground between western science and Indigenous knowledge systems.

And with western science now exploring the new fields of chaos theory and complexity theory, non-natives are now starting to see patterns within the complex adaptive systems that make up our universe, patterns Indigenous people have always understood. With this holistic approach to western science, the return to Indigenous non-linear thinking is on its way.

Perhaps soon western "civilisation" will come full circle, and rediscover the knowledge it has lost. Find out more about Indigenous cosmology.

Scientific investigations in to UFOs;
If anyone thinks that there is no real credible Scientific investigations or interest in UFOs then the below scientific research establishments need to be viewed and studied;Just a wee heads up on these two very important establishments;
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Journal of Scientific Exploration;


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"The JSE is the quarterly, peer-reviewed journal of the SSE. Since 1987, the JSE has published original research on consciousness, quantum and biophysics, unexplained aerial phenomena alternative medicine, new energy, sociology, psychology, and much more.The journal also contains book reviews, letters to the editor, and peer correspondence".

link for further study or reading; http://www.scientificexploration.org/
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NARCAP is also invaluable when it comes to credible scientific investigation's and is highly recommended to any up and coming UFO investigator or enthusiast;


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National Aviation Reporting Center on Anomalous Phenomena;

"To improve aviation safety and enhance scientific knowledge"

Summer/Fall 2010;

Announcing Project Sphere:

"Over the past year NARCAP researchers have been preparing papers addressing the subject of aviation safety-related incidents involving Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP) that appear to be spherical in form. The first phase of this project is the compilation of these studies into a core document addressing various aspects of Spherical UAP including Fluid Dynamics, Radar Reflectivity, Case Studies, Photo cases, and more. This document is titled: “Spherical UAP and Aviation Safety: A Critical Review”.


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Recent Publications:

NARCAP is pleased to share these recent studies by NARCAP researchers from
around the world.

A Pilot's View on Why Today's Unmanned Aerial Vehicles Cannot Explain Unidentified Aerial Phenomena
Jose Americo Medeiros, NARCAP-Brazil, April 2010

A Preliminary Study of 300 cases of Unidentified Aerial Phenomena (UAP)
Reported by Military and Civilian Pilots
Dominique F. Weinstein NARCAP International Technical Specialist - France
Member of GEIPAN/CNES College of Experts – France, September 2009

A Comparative Analytical and Observational Study of North American Databases on Unidentified Aerial Phenomena

Massimo Teodorani, Ph.D. Astrophysicist, Researcher, Science Writer, NARCAP Research Associate, Italy, November 2009

Near-Miss with UAP near Sao Paulo, Brazil Airport in 2004
Richard F. Haines, NARCAP Chief Scientist

Analysis of Digital Photographs of Commercial Airplane and Small UAP on November 8, 2009
Richard F. Haines, NARCAP Chief Scientist, November 27, 2009

Image Doctoring: JPEG Encoding and Analysis
Richard Tortorella, NARCAP Research Associate, May 2009

Infrared Photographs of Alleged “UFOs
Vicente-Juan Ballester Olmos NARCAP International
Technical Specialist and Miguel Guasp, Spain

Small White Ball of Light Flies Near Airliner: Investigation of High Resolution, Digital, Color Photographs of July 3, 2005 at 2031 Hrs., Palo Alto, California
Richard F. Haines, NARCAP Chief Scientist


A Review of Unmanned Aerial Vehicle Designs and
Operational Characteristics
Terrell J. Osborn, Ph.D., NARCAP Research Associate

The NARCAP "OHare" Report
Report of an Unidentified Aerial Phenomenon and its Safety Implications at O'Hare International Airport on November 7, 2006
Dr. Richard Haines, Chief Editor with K. Efishof, D. Ledger, L.Lemke, S. Maranto, W. Puckett, T. Roe, M. Shough, R. Uriarte, 2007

link; http://www.narcap.org/technicalreports.htm

Historical Marker for Betty and Barney Hill;

Just a wee heads up on a New Hampshire Erects Historical Marker for Betty and Barney Hill;The state of New Hampshire erected a plaque to remember the Betty and Barney hill UFO and abduction encounter;

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"Many states might shy away from immortalizing its UFO history. But the State of New Hampshire is known for its fiercely independent people and its “live free or die” motto. On July 20, 2011, it erected a historical marker to commemorate the September 19-20, 1961 close encounter and “lost” time of Portsmouth residents Betty and Barney Hill.

The marker is located next to the highway in front of Cabin # 20 at the Indian Head Resort in North Lincoln and across the street from the granite stone face called Indian Head".

"Several years ago, Mike Stevens, a Farmington, NH, man circulated a petition to request a marker to commemorate Betty and Barney Hills’ UFO experience. The State of NH Division of Historical Resources, Department of Cultural Resources advised him that a formal request would be required. I, as the Hills’ niece and trustee of Betty’s estate, then worked with the state over the next 3-4 years to complete the process.

Employees at the Department of Cultural Resources called upon me to suggest appropriate text for the marker—a challenge in and of itself. Every statement had to be footnoted and supported by ample evidence that it was true and accurate. In all, the wording for the 12 line plaque had 20 footnotes and 28 sources listed in its bibliography"y.

The final wording approved by the state agency reads as follows:
On the night of September 19-20, 1961, Portsmouth, NH couple Betty and Barney Hill experienced a close encounter with an unidentified flying object and two hours of “lost” time while driving south on Rte 3 near Lincoln. They filed an official Air Force Project Blue Book report of a brightly-lit cigar-shaped craft the next day, but were not public with their story until it was leaked in the Boston Traveler in 1965. This was the first widely-reported UFO abduction report in the United States.


They didn’t accept my first draft. I had stated that the Hills were prominent members of the community and supported it with evidence that Betty and Barney were active in community affairs. They helped organize the Rockingham County Community Action Program and Barney was chairman of the Board of Directors. In 1965, Barney was appointed to the NH State Advisory Committee to the U.S. Civil Rights Commission.

Barney was legal redress officer for the local chapter of the NAACP and served on the regional board. They promoted literacy throughout the state and worked on Lyndon Johnson’s presidential campaign. I accompanied Betty and Barney to his inauguration in January 1965. We were invited guests.

I had also added that the Hills’ experience generated interest in the scientific community because J. Allen Hynek, James McDonald, Carl Sagan, David Saunders, Leo Sprinkle, Stanton Friedman and others looked into the case. But that text didn’t make the final cut either. I am, however, very pleased with the text that the D.O.C.R. eventually approved. The marker is beautiful.

The decision to place the marker by Indian Head was a difficult one to make. Five locations were initially considered. The Mt. Cleveland picnic area, south of the Town of Twin Mountain was the Hills’ first stop. It gave Betty the opportunity to view through binoculars the star like object that had sparked her curiosity fifteen miles north.

She watched as it traveled across the face of the moon flashing multi-colored lights. By the time she handed the binoculars to Barney, the object had changed course, and shortly thereafter, rapidly descended in their direction.

My next suggestion was the Old Man of the Mountain historical site in Franconia Notch, the Hills’ second stop. The Hills stated that as they motored past the Cannon Mountain Aerial Tramway just north of the Old Man, Betty noticed that the lights on a structure at the top of the mountain blinked out as the craft passed over it.

It then rounded the mountain and hovered motionless in the sky, except for its rotation, beside the Old Man’s 48 foot profile. It was at least 1 ½ times the length of the natural granite formation from chin to forehead. It appeared cigar shaped because they were observing a lighted row of windows. Within moments, the silent craft rapidly changed direction and ascended and descended in a stair step pattern.

Indian Head was my next suggestion. Located near Franconia Notch’s the south entrance, the resort offers ample parking space and was a prominent landmark along the Hills’ journey south.

In regressive hypnosis with Dr. Benjamin Simon, Betty stated, “We went past the Flume, somewhere between the Flume and Indian Head or……..it was just beyond the Flume or just beyond Indian Head. There was a motel and it was like cabins, these small neat looking cabins.

The sign itself wasn’t lighted, but there was one cabin on the end that had a light on, and there was a man standing in the door. And I saw this and I thought, “If I want to I can get out of this whole situation right now. All we’ve got to do is drive in here and this object will go away, and that will be the end of it.” But they didn’t stop.

Only a mile south of Indian Head and almost directly in their path, the couple encountered a huge flattened circular disc with a row of intense blue-white lighted windows along its forward edge. Barney rapidly brought the car to a halt in the middle of the road and grabbed his binoculars for a closer look, opening the car door for a less encumbered view.

The silent hovering object descended to an estimated eighty to a hundred feet above their vehicle. It had ceased rotating. Rapidly, in an arc like movement, it shifted from its location directly ahead, and rested above the tree tops in an adjacent field. Barney pocketed his handgun and walked toward it. The silent enigmatic craft was huge; maybe sixty to eighty feet in diameter. As he approached it, two red lights at the end of fin-like structures parted from the sides of the craft, and it tilted toward Barney.

Lifting his binoculars to his eyes, he spied a group of “strangely not human” figures moving about with what he described as “the precision of German officers.” As the craft tilted downward and began to descend toward him, one of these strange creatures, who remained at the window, communicated a frightening message. Barney had the immediate impression that he was in danger of being plucked from the field.

Overcome with fear and with all of the courage that he could muster, he tore the binoculars from his eyes and raced back to the car. Breathless, trembling, and in near hysterics, he told Betty that they needed to get out of there or they were going to be captured.

The close encounter field would have been my number one choice for the marker but Interstate Highway 93 now passes through it, with entrance and exit ramps to Route 3. At the height of the tourist season, it would have presented a traffic flow problem.

The Notch Express, a convenience store and gas station near the ramp is a place of interest. Its walls are lined with UFO photos and memorabilia and UFO related video is constantly playing on a monitor by the checkout counter.

The fifth location that we considered was the abduction site on Mill Brook Road in Thornton. We almost immediately rejected that notion because it is located off the highway in a new housing development. In 1961, Betty and Barney found themselves on the then deserted logging road where they encountered a roadblock by non-human entities.

They reported that they were forced aboard a landed disk and subjected to unearthly physical examinations before they were released. After years of searching, they located the landing site on Labor Day Weekend in 1965.

We made the final decision that Indian Head was the best overall location for the historical marker. Over the past 50 years, the Indian Head Resort has grown into a large modern facility with motel rooms, a function hall, business center, restaurant and lounge, and swimming pools.

This year it will host a 50th anniversary celebration of the Hills’ UFO experience on September 23-25. There will be a memorial marker dedication and many additional activities. I will be on hand to give a guided tour along the close encounter route and a new presentation about the Hills’ close encounter and abduction.

For additional information, see my website at www.kathleen-marden.com and my 2007 book with Stanton Friedman, Captured! The Betty and Barney Hill UFO Encounter.

Note: the Hills’ archival collection is housed at the Milne Archival Collection Department at the University of New Hampshire Library, 18 Library Way, Durham, NH 03824. The collection consists of 87 folders, arranged in 9 series. These contain correspondence, personal journals and essays, manuscripts, newspaper clippings, photographs, slides, and films and audio tapes of the Hills’ radio and television appearances. I compiled the collection in 2005 at Betty’s request.

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See Also:

Barney & Betty Hill: The White Mountain Abduction Documentary

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2010...-mountain.html


Anniversary of Barney & Betty Hill's UFO Incident;

http://www.theufochronicles.com/2006...hills-ufo.html

this thread is epic.

hmmm

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Minot afb b-52 ufo incident 1968;
Fascinating UFO encounter from the 1968 involving a , the crew of the B-52 bomber;

MINOT AFB B-52 UFO INCIDENT;

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"For over three hours in late 1968, numerous ground witnesses observed an unconventional aerial object maneuvering over the [Minuteman] ICBM missile fields surrounding Minot Air Force Base, North Dakota. During this time, an unidentified object paced a B-52 and was recorded on radar. Later, the crew of the B-52 overflew and observed a large glowing object on or near the ground".

"Portions of this incident were recently dramatized in the ABC News Special television documentary Peter Jennings Reporting: UFOs: Seeing is Believing".

"This will be the place to look for further information about this extraordinary UFO even"t.

link; http://www.project1947.com/shg/minot/index.html

During the past five years that we have been investigating the events at Minot AFB, we have located and interviewed over fifteen principal witnesses and amassed hundreds of pages of supporting documentation. This has allowed us to fairly accurately reconstruct the events and provided insights into the official investigations. Only recently have we completed our research, and currently are in the process of writing a comprehensive historical report which will be available here in the coming weeks.

Bookmark this page and return soon. Pre-publication ordering will be announced in the coming days.

Inquiries may be addressed to the researchers by clicking here.
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Witness testimony below in video;


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UFO seen from the cockpit of the B-52 below;

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"The crew of the B52 and sixteen ground witnesses attested that they saw a UFO that night. Blue Book came to the astonishing conclusion that what they actually saw were nothing more than stars"!
link;http://www.mercuryrapids.co.uk/articles3.htm


North Dakota UFO Buzzes;
B-52 And Missiles In 1968;
George A. Filer <[email protected]>
Director - Mutual UFO Network Eastern
MUFON Skywatch Investigations;
Filer's Files #27 7-10-00

UPDATE;

North Dakota UFO Buzzes B-52 And Missiles In 1968;

From George A. Filer <[email protected] Director - Mutual UFO Network Eastern MUFON Skywatch Investigations Filer's Files #28
7-17-00


MINOT AIR FORCE BASE - Ken Seven writes,
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"Regarding last weeks Filer's Files #27, I can verify verbally, and have the papers to prove that I was stationed at a radar installation about 22 miles south of Minot during 1966 to 1968 with the 786th Minot Radar Station." I was involved in the incident alluded to your Files last week and in the book "Above Top Secret" by Timothy Good, that states on page 300, "The much respected researcher Raymond Fowler, who once served with the USAF Security Service, had revealed details of a NORAD-related incident that occurred on 5 March 1967.

NORAD radar tracked an uncorrelated target descending over the Minuteman missile site at Minot AFB (91st Strategic Missile Wing), North Dakota. Strike teams were notified immediately and sighted a metallic disk-shaped UFO with bright flashing lights moving slowly over the site. Three armed trucks chased the intruder until it stopped and hovered at 5000 feet. The teams had orders to capture the UFO undamaged if it landed, but it then began circling over a launch control facility.

F-106 jets were about to be scrambled when the UFO climbed vertically and disappeared at high speed. Fowler has received confirmation from undisclosed sources that there have been other instances when UFOs have hovered directly over nuclear missile sites."

Anyway, your mentioning this incident makes me think it was the same one that I was involved in. My "experience" was from an entirely different perspective than from the air but only adds validity and depth to your case. I was involved in an indirect-direct sort of way with the missile incident involving a UFO. My friend, who was on the shift manning the radar scopes, during this incident, even though we were told later that the incident was classified, wrote a letter (brave of him, or, naive) to the then military's spokesperson Dr. Hynek.

He actually tried to correct Hynek, who at that time was saying publicly, "If there were solid aerial UFOs that our military radar systems would be tracking them." In other words, officially and publicly, our radar are not giving evidence to validate the public's claims, which my friend, and all of us knew quite the contrary. He wrote Hynek a letter saying the evidence is there, they are solid, they are maneuvering, and they were at that time showing a lot of interest in the missile sites in North Dakota.

Not only that, there were two radar site fixes on that UFO with both the 786th's and Minot AFB; (see below), This pretty much ruled out that our radar site was faulty; plus, you had the Non-commissioned officers (NCOs) ground observation of it also.

I was in a position to verify the tampering with missile sites by the UFOs. There were a group of about ten NCOs, that were a maintenance crew at a missile site, who phoned our radar site reporting they had a ground visual of a UFO (or UFOs?) doing very odd maneuvering near their missile site.

The UFOs would drop down from out of sight to about a mile in elevation and stop at that point; then float like a leaf to about 500 feet? They would reverse the floating leaf back to the mile elevation, and then repeat this maneuver. I have forgotten how many times, because it may have been several UFOs at one time. Only one dropped down as if to land.

Meanwhile our radar got a fix on it such that it indicated a very real unknown/s. These were solid maneuvering object/s at the site. Our protocol required us then to phone the radar systems at Minot AFB for them to also get a fix on the unknown. They also got a fix on their radar, which meant, for a certainty, that it was a very real unknown. Protocol required that jets be scrambled to intercept and to identify the unknown. In this case, they sent two jets to intercept/identify the UFO, which meant, it wasn't ours.

Because of my job function, I unfortunately had to leave my access to this activity at the critical point in which, one of the NCOs said, "Several of the crew have taken one of the vehicles to get a closer look because a UFO has descended behind a nearby hill because it looks like it is going to land"! I could not find out later what the conclusion of that incident was. I did hear later from an officer who came to our radar site,

"That the jets were unable to intercept (and that even though we had two radar fixes and the ground visuals, the jets could not lock onto or see the UFO/s. The radars showed that the UFOs and the jets converged or should have been seen visually? The UFOs would climb vertically and shoot upward from the mile high level to out of sight at more than either 3,000 or 5,000 mph, which my friend in the radar room corroborated.

I can confirm that the military were well aware of the UFO activity and that in this Minot instance, it was associated with a missile site, and the military at normal operational levels were dealing with such activity as standard operating procedure. "They were told to track but keep it quiet." Yet, publicly, Hynek was saying, there was no solid radar evidence. I vaguely recall that my friend was visited either by Hynek, or a representative of his.

It was, as if, Hynek was not in the loop about the military's real stance; that he had to come and visit the radar site to get a confirmation rather than the military offering the evidence to his Blue Book investigative team. If they did, it was probably filtered; it was probably about this time that Hynek's thinking began to change, if I recall. Well that's my been my "experiences" while in the USAF ADC. Thanks to Ken Seven.

OFFUTT AIR FORCE BASE - John Hickman writes,

"I read your article about the B-52 at Minot with much interest- and I have a slightly similar story that may interest you. I was stationed at Offutt Air FB (55SRW) near Omaha from 1981 to 1984. Around 1982 or '83, a story was making the rounds about either one or several UFOs being seen over several missile launch sites in Montana. (I believe they would have been under the control of Malstrom AFB.)

The interesting thing about the sightings was that shortly after the occurrences, several of the missile guidance computers located in the missile warheads had their data banks wiped clean- so they couldn't be launched- launch and preprogrammed course data was just gone. Since we were co-located with Strategic Air Command (SAC) Headquarters,

I am reasonably sure that this was a real occurrence that leaked out. At any rate, I have always wondered what they were trying to tell us, it is obvious we were pretty much helpless against their technology, or maybe just a warning that we'd better play with each other nice or they'd take our toys away. Thanks to John Hickman [email protected]
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MINOT AIR FORCE BASE - In Captain Kevin Randle's new book Scientific Ufology he reports on a Project Blue Book case dated October 24, 1968, when missile crews, control personnel and maintenance personnel observed a UFO in the vicinity of the base. The following is the tape between the air controllers and the B-52 crew with call sign JAG Three one.

At 0330 hours: The controllers received the information that there was a UFO 24 miles to the northwest. A B-52 jet bomber (JAG 31) flying at 2000 feet was on a calibration check and requests a clearance from radar personnel.

At 0334 "MIB (Minot) approach control does JAG 31 have clearance to WT fix at Flight Level 2000?"

JAG 31, Roger climb out on a heading of 290 climb and maintain 5000. Stand by for higher altitude. We're trying to get it from center now.

At 0335, the controller asked, "And JAG 31 on your way out to the WT fix request you look out toward your one o'clock position for the next fifteen miles and see if you see any orange glows out there? "Roger, roger glows 31, "Someone is seeing UFOs again!" "Roger I see a........ (Rest of transmission garbled)

At 0352, The controller then radioed, "Three one, the UFO is being picked up by weather's radar also. Should be at our one o'clock position three miles now"

The pilot said, "We have nothing on our airborne radar and I'm in some pretty thick haze now and unable to see out that way."

At 0358, the pilot then requested an instrument guided approach, and received instructions. The pilot called, and then the transmitter went dead, but they could hear instructions from the ground. The controller asked them to squawk ident," which meant to use the aircraft's transponder which would paint the controller's radar with a large, glowing blip with the aircraft's identification.

At 0400, the controller then radioed, "JAG 31 if you hear me squawk ident...JAG 31 ident observed. Cleared for the approach attempt. Contact on frequency 271 decimal three and you're cleared for the low approach. They continued to have radio problems for another couple of minutes.

At 0402, they were able to communicate easily. The pilot said, "Our UFO was off to our left side when we started penetration.

"Roger, understand you did see something on your left side." "We had a radar return at about a mile and a quarter, at nine o'clock position for about the time we left 200 to 14..."They discussed the troubles with the transmission and then, the controller asked, "Affirmative. I was wondering how far out did you see that UFO?"

"He was about one and a half miles off our left wing at 35 miles when we started in and stayed with us 'til about 10."

"I wonder if that could have been your radio troubles?"

"I don't know.... But that's exactly when they started. "At 0413, Jag 31 are you observing any more UFOs? Negative on radar. We can't see anything visually.

JAG 31, request you have someone report to base ops after you land.

What we have, then, was a group of sightings made by men on the ground, at the missile sites scattered around the base. There was radar sightings from ground and weather's radar. There were visual sightings from the crew of the B-52, and an airborne radar sighting where the target traveled at 3,000 miles per hour. Scope photographs were taken.

There were sightings made by S.Sgt. Bond the FSC at Nov. Flight, S.Sgt. Smith at Oscar-1, Julelt, and Mike Flight Team and a number of men in widely scattered locations. The object landed at location AA-43 and the entire observation lasted for 45 minutes. Fourteen other people in separate locations also reported the UFO. Security alarm were activated for both the outer and inner ring at the missile sites. When the guards arrived at the outer door it was open and the combination lock on the inner door had been moved.

Editors Note: The case in my estimation was never investigated properly. Project Blue Book personnel never sent a representative and the case was essentially written off despite the interest of several Strategic Air Command generals including 15th Air Force's Major General Nichols. The sighting was officially explained by on November 13, by Lt. Col. Hector Quintanilla who wrote, "The following conclusions have been reached after a thorough study of the data submitted to Foreign Technology Division.

The ground visual sightings appear to be of the star Sirius and the B-52, which was flying in the area. The B-52 radar contact and the temporary loss of the UHF transmission could be attributed to a plasma similar to ball lightning. The air visual from the B-52 could be the star Vega, which was on the horizon at the time, or it could be a light on the ground, or possibly a plasma. No further investigation by the Foreign Technology Division is contemplated.

This is a classic Blue Book case where dozens of Air Force personnel who see B-52s and stars nightly have their testimony doubted. They know when they've seen a UFO. In this case the scientists doing the Condon report agreed that this was a real UFO. The apparent damage to the missile site and disruption of B-52 radio transmissions was in my opinion a threat to primary nuclear offensive systems and should not have been trivialized. The records speak for themselves. This article was taken from Scientific Ufology written by Captain Kevin D. Randle USAFR.

I consider this his finest book and recommend its reading. This case like thousands of others are explained away with any simple mundane explanation that can be found. Yet many cases involve the tampering of key government weapon systems. It appears Quintanilla either did not care or had instructions to write off most of the sightings with any available excuse. I wonder why the reports were white washed, while the Air Force's scientific advisor Alan Hynek was coming to the opposite conclusion that, UFOs were real?
link; http://www.rense.com/general2/dak.htm



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Below is the report filed by Blue Books scientific consultant Dr. J. Allen Hynek, here he gives his professional conclusions on this UFO based on the objects speed and electromagnetic interference effects


http://www.nicap.org/images/title2.jpg

Minot Radar/Visual Photo E-M Case;
Minot, North Dakota ;
October 28, 1968 (Not 1956);

Dr. J. Allen Hynek:
quote;
"Some of the more pertinent details of the sighting are contained in the following excerpts from a Project Blue Book Memorandum for the Record, prepared by a Blue Book staff officer":

At about 0300 hours (3:00 A.M.) local, a B-52 that was about 30 miles northwest of Minot AFB and making practice penetrations sighted an unidentified blip on their radars. Initially the target traveled approximately 2 1/2 miles in 3 sec. or at about 3,000 mi/hr.

After passing from the right to the left of the plane it assumed a position off the left wing of the 52. The blip stayed off the left wing for approximately 20 miles at which point it broke off. Scope photographs were taken. When the target was close to the B-52 neither of the two transmitters in the B-52 would operate properly but when it broke off both returned to normal operation.


At about this time a missile maintenance man called in and reported sighting a bright orangish-red object. The object was hovering at about 1000 ft, or so, and had a sound similar to a jet engine. The observer had stopped his car, but he then started it up again. As he started to move, the object followed him, then accelerated and appeared to stop at about 6-8 miles away. The observer shortly afterward lost sight of it.

In response to the maintenance man’s call the B-52, which had continued its penetration run. was vectored toward the visual which was about 10 miles northwest of the base. The B-52 confirmed having sighted a bright light of some type that appeared to be hovering just over or on the ground.

The Blue Book files contain the reports by fourteen members of missile maintenance crews from five different sights at Minot AFB who claimed to have seen a similar object.

Lt. Quintanella sent a dispatch to Col. Pullen of the Strategic Air Command advising him that after reviewing preliminary information submitted by Minot AFB, it was his belief that the object sighted by the B-52 crew on radar and visually was “a plasma of the ball-lightning class.”

How he made this determination is not explained. As for the sightings by the missile maintenance crew and security guards, he stated that some were “observing some first-magnitude celestial bodies,” although he did not explained how such celestial bodies could be magnified to the degree that they would appear to be “as the sun,” or give the impression of landing as reported.

The official Blue Book record card on this case gave at least three “possibilities” for the air-visual sighting by the B-52 crew. But no detailed analysis was made, and once again these explanations appear to have been straws grasped simply to close the case--quickly and quietly.

J. Allen Hynek;

link; http://www.nicap.org/reports/681024minot_hynek.htm

Quote:

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Originally Posted by Mumm Ra

wait, what?

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people do anything for there 15 seconds just like the incident that happen awhile back in russia with some white kids claim to have found an alien.....they actually use bread and chicken skin

funny thing is i said it was chicken skin before they admitted to it

Lawrence Fawcett /Beyond Clear Intent


Below is so me information on UFO researcher Lawrence Fawcett and his collaboration with Barry Greenwood JRN the experienced UFO researcher who has amassed thousands of governmental UFO documents that show a genuine and serious concern from the PAB in some UFO cases that contain levels of very high strangeness





UFO Cover-up: What the Government Won't Say;

http://bks8.books.google.co.uk/books...r&img=1&zoom=1

quote;
"Authors Lawrence Fawcett and Barry J. Greenwood reveal in this fascinating, thought-provoking book, based on the government's own research and internal files, what they have learned about:UFO's as a threat to national security.UFO sightings at military bases in the United States, North Africa, and the Middle East.The cover-up role of the FBI and the CIA.The presidents, legislators, astronauts, military leaders, and international scientific authorities who are on record as in favor of renewed investigation of UFO's".

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The Sign Historical Group;
Government Folder Headings Introduction

This listing of government file folder headings represents 25 years of research into official interest in the UFO phenomena. The great majority of them are the result of Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) actions against official agencies in the U.S., and by similar legal actions abroad.

The folders are generally listed by agency or by major topic. There is not a system in place yet to properly list individual documents. There are many problems in doing this.

The contents are varied and often difficult to classify. In combing such records, one finds that single releases on specific incidents can include: administrative paperwork on how the information was handled; related and unrelated records coming from different agencies other than the one being queried; undated documents; difficult, if not impossible to read, copy; plain copy documents with no attribution; and handwritten notes out of context. Many of the documents contain partial censorship as well.

Severe cross-referencing problems exist as well. Some documents allude to many other incidents, people or places. To place materials in their proper context might mean removing them from the context of their original releases. Retaining the context might mean making many copies of the same document for different files. This would eat up available space for researchers with limited storage.

The information was assembled at significant cost: thousands of dollars and hours. These folders are the background documentation for the book, CLEAR INTENT, co-authored with Lawrence Fawcett and the organizational files for Citizens Against UFO Secrecy (CAUS) from 1984 through 1998. A substantial portion of the records are copies, and sometimes originals, of data acquired by researcher Robert Todd of Ardmore, Pennsylvania, who has had a huge impact on public knowledge of government UFO investigations from the mid-1970s until the late-1990s.

Todd's legacy on this issue cannot be understated. Through his intricate knowledge of government agencies and their activities, he was able to pave the way to unearth more important records on this subject than any other investigator. In more recent times, another researcher, Jan Aldrich, has plowed a path through government records by personally visiting government file collections and unearthing documentation directly, rather than working through FOIA. His contributions to the subject are also reflected in these folders.

Many others have contributed to such record holdings. We hope to feature their inventories in the near future.

Barry Greenwood;

View Barry Greenwood's Government File Holdings (UFO);
link; http://www.project1947.com/shg/govfold.htm


The Sign Historical Group;
The Barry Greenwood Archives;
quote;
"Barry Greenwood has been collecting UFO publications for over 40 years. His collection has become famous as a reference set for those who want to research the UFO field.
To do any kind research, be it historical or involving UFOs, four things are required: materials, researchers, access and forums. Materials include UFO documents, reports, articles, and in this case UFO publications".

You need discerning researchers to classify, analyze, and interpret the material, while the researchers, of course, need access to the material. Finally, you need a forum or fora where analysis and work can be reviewed. To get to these goals you must have a first-rate collection of material.

Barry Greenwood's publication collection is the foundation for a complete reference set of publications, at least for material produced in North America.

The listings in the Greenwood publication collections represent material in his possession. In the case of UFO publications there are many missing issues and even publications that are not known to us.

We are still in the collection phase for UFO materials and request your help in completing the Greenwood files with copies of material from your collection.

The Union Catalog of Serial UFO Articles is incomplete, and represents little more than an inventory of UFO and other material in Greenwood's collection. Many journals that printed numerous articles of interest are yet to be catalogued and added to this work. Please bring articles not listed in this collection to our attention.

Barry is not in a position to answer large numbers of requests for material from his collection, but reasonable requests will be considered. Offers to exchange publications are very welcome.

Please send all inquiries to:

Barry Greenwood
P.O. Box 176,
Stoneham, MA 02180
U.S.A.
Eight examples of Barry's collection may be viewed online below, or can be downloaded here.
Please note: These bibliographies remain a "work in progress." The "Union Catalog" presented here is currently less than half completed.

Ball Lightning Catalogue – Updated: October 12, 2003

Barry Greenwood's Union Catalog of Serial UFO Articles

– Updated: 8 November, 2003

Barry Greenwood's UFO Periodical Index

– Updated: 28 November, 2001

Barry Greenwood's Non-English UFO Magazines

– Updated: 19 September, 2001

Barry Greenwood's UFO Clipping Volumes Listing - December 5, 2002

Barry Greenwood's Topical UFO Files Index - August 24, 2000

Barry Greenwood's Government Folder Headings - August 26, 2000

Barry Greenwood's article UFOs: Government Involvement, Secrecy, and Documents

The Ray Fowler Archives in the holdings of Barry Greenwood.

– NEW: – 3 March, 2002

Upon moving to Maine, Ray decided to give up most of his accumulated UFO records. SHG was contacted as a potential recipient in late 2001. An agreement was reached and I picked up the files in December. The files are being examined and, where needed, records are being slip-sheeted and rebound for preservation.

The inventory of the sighting files lists the folders of raw material: filled out report forms, photos, transcripts and articles relevant to each case. Some of the classics of New England UFO research lie within; Exeter, NH 1965, Beverly High School 1966; etc.

SHG has also been given permission to reproduce the sighting summary catalog used in Ray's first book, UFOs: Interplanetary Visitors. The catalog gives summary detail of the sightings that Ray has investigated over the years up to the early 1970s.

Both of these listings are an invaluable guide to UFO activity in New England over a twenty-year-plus span. SHG is grateful to receive the information and pleased to be able to offer these listings.


The Jan Aldrich Archives - UFO File Folder Headings;
link; http://www.project1947.com/shg/grnwood.htm

Disclosing UFO Files,Nations that have released;

The following posts will concentrate on the countries that have so far to date released their unclassified UFO documents for public viewing, there will be a short description then the relevant link for further study or viewing;We will begin with France;


GEPAN / SEPRA / GEIPAN (France);


http://www.ufoevidence.org/newsite/pics/CNES.jpg

quote;
"Since 1977, the national space agency of France CNES has been helping civilian and military authorities understand the precise nature of Un-identified Aerospace Phenomena (PAN). The unit involved is the Rare Aerospace Phenomena Study Department (SEPRA) based at the CNES technical centre in Toulouse. Since 1977, the department has developed a precise analytical methodology and today has accumulated a considerable database. The SEPRA database is comprised of more than 2200 different cases, with some 6000 eyewitness accounts and approximately 100 sightings from aircraft".
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key articles, documents & resources;

From GEPAN To SEPRA: Official UFO studies in France (PDF);
http://www.ufoevidence.org/newsite/files/GEPANSEPRA.pdf

Gildas Bourdais, International UFO Reporter, Winter 2000-2001
It is well known that France created an official - or quasi-official – organization for the study of UFOs, first called GEPAN in 1977 and later SEPRA in 1988. But the real story is not so well known, even in France, mainly because it was surrounded by controversy.


GEIPAN - Offical website of France's UFO research program (2006)
http://www.cnes.fr/html/_112_4461_.php

Official website of GEIPAN, the new resumed version of France's GEPAN/SEPRA UFO study project. This program is an official French government project, and is conducted under the official French space agency CNES (the equivalent of NASA in the US). The new director, Yves Sillard, was a former director of CNES, and has numerous other high positions and achievements to his credit. (The site is in French.)

GEIPAN - Official website with background info about GEIPAN (English)
http://www.cnes.fr/web/5038-geipan.php

Official website of GEIPAN, the new resumed version of France's GEPAN/SEPRA UFO study project.

GEIPAN Official Website Containing Released Case Files (in French)
http://www.cnes-geipan.fr/geipan

France became the first country to open its files on UFOs Thursday when the national space agency unveiled a website documenting more than 1,600 sightings spanning five decades.

Offical UFO Investigations in France: the GEPAN/SEPRA Project (Sturrock Panel Report on UFO Physical Evidence)
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc537.htm



F. Louange and J-J Velasco, Sturrock Panel Report - Physical Evidence Related to UFO Reports - Appendix 1
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc537.htm

For more than 20 years, the French space agency has conducted a non-military but official investigation into UFO reports. In its first phase, the project was named GEPAN and its focus was primarily on UFO reports. Subsequently, the project was renamed SEPRA and was assigned a more general responsibility for studying all atmospheric reentry phenomena. This appendix gives a brief summary of the history, mission, operations and achievements of this project. R

Official French Gov't UFO study project to resume with new director
Various sources - October, 2005
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc2008.htm


The French Government, and its offical national space agency CNES, will restart its official UFO study program. The French gov't has had an offical program to study UFOs for several decades, called GEPAN / SEPRA. It was closed recently, but after an audit, it will now be restarted, with a new director, Yves Sillard. R
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other articles & documents;

Assessment of the UFO phenomenon by GEPAN (1978)
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1626.htm

Claude Poher, GEPAN Report to the Scientific Committee, June, 1978
Positive conclusions from the GEPAN Report to the Scientific Committee, June, 1978: "In 60% of the cases reported here, the description of this phenomenon is apparently one of a flying machine whose origin, modes of lifting and/or propulsion are totally outside our knowledge." R

Comments on closure of SEPRA
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1635.htm
Gildas Bourdais, UFO Updates Mailing List, May 2004
In short, yes, the "SEPRA" no longer exists, but Jean-Jacques Velasco is still in charge of Ufos at CNES. Since he was alone at the job, it's not a big deal.


France opens secret UFO files covering 50 years
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc2028.htm
AFP (Agence France Press), Mar. 22, 2007
France became the first country to open its files on UFOs Thursday when the national space agency unveiled a website documenting more than 1,600 sightings spanning five decades. R

France puts secret UFO archive on Web (Associated Press, 3-2007)
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc2030.htm


John Leicester, Associated Press, March 23, 2007
France is the first country to put its entire weird sightings archive online, said Jacques Patenet, who heads the space agency's UFO cell - the Group for Study and Information on Unidentified Aerospace Phenomena.

France UFO files;
French Gendarmerie Nationale is an official source of reports for SEPRA
UFOs at Close Sight;
http://www.ufologie.net/htm/sepragen.htm

This document explains the relations between the French Gendarmerie Nationale (a part of the French army who deals with civilian police missions. A Gendarmerie Nationale's official duty is to collect and transmit to the SEPRA scientific panel any testimony, proof, picture, related to the UFO phenomenon. Gendarmerie takes great care of this, they never mock anyone reporting a ufo!

French Get a Look at Nation's UFO Files (Washington Post - 3-2007)
http://www.ufologie.net/htm/sepragen.htm

The Washington Post, (March 23, 2007)
The voluntary decision by France's National Center for Space Studies to dump more than 100,000 pages of witness testimony, photographs, film footage and audiotapes from its secret UFO archives onto its Internet site, http://www.cnes.fr, for worldwide viewing is an unprecedented move among Western countries.
http://www.ufologie.net/htm/sepragen.htm

G.E.P.A.N. (1977-1988) (in French)
R.R.0
http://www.rr0.org/GEPAN.html

History of the official French government program to study UFOs.
Interview with CNES spokesman regarding closure of SEPRA
Gregory Gutierez, May 28, 2004
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1639.htm

Some news about the destiny of the french SEPRA. An interview with Arnaud Benedetti, who's in charge of the official communication of the French National Center for Space Studies (CNES). R

Open Letter to the Skeptics by Jean-Jacques Velasco of SEPRA
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1632.htm

UFOs at Close Sight / Sciences Frontières, N. 29
A certain number of observations of UFO which were the subject of thorough investigations remain unexplained. By sharing his opinions on this complex matter, Jean-Jacques Velasco, director of the SEPRA, raises this question: Why are sciences known as "exact" not interested in studying UFOs, and why were the studies started in the years 70-80 stopped? R


SEPRA analyses film of daylight UFO 10m above the ground
UFOs at Close Sight
http://www.ufologie.net/htm/ladepeche110998.htm

This article was published on 09.11.1998 in the French newspaper "La Depêche." Sunday evening, an amateur filmed during two minutes a mysterious unidentified object. The video cassette was handed to the CNES of Toulouse which considers the case "exceptional."


SEPRA closed, SEPRA not closed ... Open the archives to the public!
Patrick Gross / UFOs at Close Sight, May 2004
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1629.htm

France has a long history of continuing official interest in UFO reports, in the shape of a service of its small NASA-equivalent called CNES, the Center for Space Studies. CNES spokesman Benedetti said that SEPRA as a service does not exist anymore since January 2004. A petition by French ufologists has been organized to safeguard and make publicly available the archives from the official government program. R


SEPRA Going Slowly Down, France 2004
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1628.htm

UFOs at Close Sight / La Dépêche du Midi, June 8, 2004
Article in French newspaper reporting on the closure of the SEPRA program. "The rare Aerospace Phenomena Expertise Service (SEPRA), based at the National Center for Space Studies (CNES) in Toulouse, has been closed. While it does not appear in the new CNEW orgchart, activity is continued." R

The CNES and unusual phenomena
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1624.htm

CNES Web Magazine
Since 1977, the French space agency has been helping civilian and military authorities understand the precise nature of Un-identified Aerospace Phenomena (PAN). The SEPRA database is comprised of more than 2200 different cases, with some 6000 eyewitness accounts and approximately 100 sightings from aircraft. R

The French GEPAN / SEPRA
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1625.htm

UFOs at Close Sight
To this day only one scientific study of the UFO phenomenon as been conducted and it is positive. R

The French SEPRA: An Interview with Director Jean-Jacques Velasco
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1630.htm

UFOs at Close Sight
This interview of Jean Jacques Velasco is an excellent introduction to the work of the french SEPRA Jean Jacques Velasco, member of the french CNES, leads the SEPRA (Service Expertises Phénomènes Rentrées Atmosphérique) which succeeded to the GEPAN in 1988. R


Times of London Article On Official French UFO Department
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1190.htm

Times of London, February 5, 2003
"If the truth really is out there, the French are taking serious steps to find it." Article in the Times discussing the official French UFO research program, "the only permanent government- financed scientific project set up by a developed country to unravel fact from fiction in the debate about UFOs." R


'Yes, UFOs exist': Position statement by SEPRA head, Jean-Jacques Velasco
http://www.ufoevidence.org/documents/doc1627.htm

La Dépêche du Midi, Toulouse, France, April 18, 2004 / Reprinted by UFOs at Close Sight

Jean-Jacques Velasco speaks out at last. Velasco, in a book titled "UFOs... the Evidence", states today without ambiguity that, yes indeed, "they" exist, and yes, "they are of extraterrestrial origin." Velasco was the director of the official French government program to study UFOs, SEPRA, from 1983-2004. R
websites & organizations

Démocratie Soucoupique Libérons les archives du SEPRA (in French)
http://ovniland.com/
Articles and updates on SEPRA, as well as an online petition by French UFO researchers to safeguard and make public the full archives of SEPRA. (in French)

GEIPAN - Offical website of France's UFO research program (2006)

Official website of GEIPAN, the new resumed version of France's GEPAN/SEPRA UFO study project. This program is an official French government project, and is conducted under the official French space agency CNES (the equivalent of NASA in the US). The new director, Yves Sillard, was a former director of CNES, and has numerous other high positions and achievements to his credit. (The site is in French.)

GEIPAN - Official website with background info about GEIPAN (English)

Official website of GEIPAN, the new resumed version of France's GEPAN/SEPRA UFO study project.

GEIPAN Official Website Containing Released Case Files (in French)
France became the first country to open its files on UFOs Thursday when the national space agency unveiled a website documenting more than 1,600 sightings spanning five decades.

Le S.E.P.R.A. (in French)

In-depth site with background and information on the French UFO study program, SEPRA. Includes a history of the program, technical studies and reports, and a brochure presentation. (in French)

SEPRA - Service d'Expertise des Phénomènes Rares Aérospatiaux (CNES - Centre National d'Etudes Spatiales)

The French GEPAN / SEPRA

UFOs at Close Sight
Only once in the world, a government asked a panel of scientist to study the phenomenon in order to come to some conclusions, and gave at least some means toward that end. It happened in France, the scientific group is the SEPRA (formerly GEPAN).

link; http://www.ufocusnz.org.nz/Disclosure-France.html

Brazil UFO Released Documents;

BRAZILIAN MILITARY RECOGNIZE UFO RESEARCH AND RELEASE CLASSIFIED INFORMATION;

After you read this whole page:
Click here for more recently-released information

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By A. J. Gevaerd,
Editor of the Brazilian UFO Magazine and Head of the Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers - CBU;http://www.ufo.com.br/

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"Friday, May 20, was an historic day for Ufology in Brazil, and around the world, as the Brazilian Air Force (FAB), for the very first time in its history, officially received a committee of top UFO researchers to openly discuss UFO sightings in Brazil and fully examine classified government UFO documents in several military facilities in Brasilia, the Federal Capital.

By taking this very important step, the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) has placed Brazil on a very short list of countries whose militaries acknowledge that Ufology is a serious activity and a significant effort to fully understand the nature and origin of UFOs. "We want to have all info on the subject, that is withheld by us for some decades, fully released to public, through the UFO community", declared Brigadier Telles Ribeiro, chief of Brazilian Air Force Communication Centre".



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ABOVE: From left right - A. J. Gevaerd, Fernando Ramalho, Roberto Beck, Marco Petit, Rafael Cury e Claudeir Covo at the Brazilian military's Integrated Center of Air Defense and Air Traffic Control.


The Brazilian Government, through the Brazilian Air Force, finally decided to come forward and recognize UFO research as a genuine activity as a direct result of intense pressure by the campaign, UFOs: Freedom of Information Now, a movement started by the Brazilian UFO Magazine in April 2004.

The campaign was launched by the Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers (CBU), composed of 6 UFO civilian researchers: Claudeir Covo, Marco Petit, Rafael Cury, Reginaldo de Athayde, Fernando Ramalho and A. J. Gevaerd. Athayde was sick and replaced by new interim-member and veteran UFO researcher Roberto Affonso Back.

Details of the campaign both in Portuguese and in English can be read at:
http://www.ufo.com.br/secrecy.php


The approach to the Brazilian military by the CBU committee started last February, ten months after the campaign began, with a phone call from a Brazilian Air Force spokesman, Major Antonio Lorenzo, and a formal invitation to a visit and discussion at Air Force headquarters in Brasilia. Major Lorenzo fully recognized the UFO researchers' efforts in the field and provided a few details of what kind of classified files and procedures the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) has about UFO phenomena and its detection, recording and investigation.

Two meetings, took place last Friday, May 20, between the civilian UFO researchers and the military.

The first happened in the headquarters of the Integrated Center of Air Defense and Air Traffic Control (Centro Integrado de Defesa Aerea e Controle de Trafego Aereo, Cindacta), a very sensitive facility. Over two hours, the researchers were given lectures on the procedures conducted at Cindacta and had the chance to visit air traffic control rooms and understand how UFOs could be detected by Air Force personnel.

The second, and most important, meeting took place almost immediately, at the restricted facilities of Brazilian Air Defense Command (Comando de Defesa Aerea Brasileiro, Comdabra), an even more sensitive installation that controls the entire air defense systems in the country and surrounding areas of the Atlantic Ocean and South America. In this facility the UFO researchers were given a full briefing of the top aspects of aerial defense of the country.

It was at this facility that its commander, Brigadier Atheneu Azambuja, told the UFO researchers how concerned the Brazilian military are about the UFO phenomena. Azambuja also gave details of Comdabra procedures and openly admitted that the Brazil has systematically detected and registered UFOs – labeled as "H Traffic" – since 1954. That wasn't a surprise for the UFO researchers of the Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers (CBU), but how this registering process took place was.


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ABOVE: A. J. Gevaerd (left) gives to Brazilian Air Force (FAB) Brigadier Telles Ribeiro, head of the Brazilian Air Force Communication Center, formal letters of requests that are to be forwarded to Brazilian Air Force (FAB) Commander, the Brazilian Ministry of Defense and President Luis Inacio Lula da Silva, for permanently opening secret UFO documents and for establishing an official committee of UFO research.

"We want to have all info on the subject, that is withheld by us for some decades, fully released to public, through the UFO community", said Brigadier Telles Ribeiro,.


After detailed explanations of Comdabra activities, Brigadier Atheneu Azambuja, for the first time in history, gave full access to the civilian UFO researchers, allowing them to examine 3 different folders containing classified UFO information, cases from specific dates in 1954, 1977 and 1986. The first case was an airplane pursuit of a UFO over the ocean shores of Parana State.

The second file was much more important. In the folder containing the 1977 documents examined by the UFO researchers were dozens of cases of UFOs in the Amazon with an amazing over 100 pictures taken during 'Operation Saucer' (jc: OPERACAO PRATO),http://www.mufon.com/bob_pratt/index.html an official program of UFO investigation by the military that took place from September to December, 1977, and has been fully covered by specialized UFO press around the world.


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ABOVE: From left to right - Roberto Beck, Rafael Cury, Marco Petit, A. J. Gevaerd, Fernando Ramalho e Claudeir Covo in front of Brazilian Air Defense Command, a sensitive installation that controls the entire air defense situation in the country and surrounding areas of Atlantic Ocean and South America. The researchers examamed formerly classified UFO files at this facility.


The third case was the "The Official Night of UFOs in Brazil", a very significant series of events that happened in May 1986, when 21 objects of over 100 metres in diameter jammed the Brazilian air traffic control system over Rio de Janeiro, Sao Jose dos Campos and Sao Paulo, when several jets were sent to intercept the intruders – without success.

The Brazilian Air Force (FAB) representatives at those meetings then fully admitted that Ufology is serious business and broadly recognized the activity of UFO research by the civilian UFO community. And also guaranteed that further steps are about to be taken to let the researchers to examine the entire military UFO files in a more comprehensive way. Plus, a committee of military and civilian UFO researchers would be established very soon, co-ordinated by the Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers (CBU).




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ABOVE: From left to right - A. J. Gevaerd, Marco Petit, military official from Comdabra, Rafael Cury, Roberto Beck, Fernando Ramalho e Claudeir Covo, at a meeting room at Brazilian Air Defense Command. After this point of the visit, the invited UFO researchers could not film, tape, transcribe, or copy any material.

This certainly means that we will start a new era in Ufology in Brazil and in South America. Very good things are about to happen as the Brazilian Air Force (FAB) Command, the Brazilian Ministry of Defense and Brazilian President Luis Inacio Lula da Silva receive the open letters and formal requests for opening for good the documents and start the mentioned committee, as presented to them by their spokesman.

More news to come.



A. J. Gevaerd, editor
Editor of the Brazilian UFO Magazine http://www.ufo.com.br/
Head of the Brazilian Committee of UFO Researchers - CBU

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Please see below;

BRAZILIAN GOVERNMENT RELEASES MORE UFO INFORMATION INVOLVING MILITARY; link http://www.cohenufo.org/brazilmilitaryufo2.htm

NOTE: This very interesting letter from A.J. Gevaerd to Linda
Moulton Howe (Also, please see below.)http://www.cohenufo.org/GevaerdLtrToHowe.mht

. . . and then, note this one by me. http://www.cohenufo.org/cowmuts-ufoh.htm#howegevaerd The topic is cattle mutilation, and necessitated making reference to the above letter and a short discussion of the Gevaerd-Howe situation.


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