that is not good now will have to wait to see how good/bad he isQuote:
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that is not good now will have to wait to see how good/bad he isQuote:
Originally Posted by benzo
What are you guy's opinion of Taylor. He's gaining more haters with each fight and I've been one for awhile now. The dude has proved absolutely nothing in the ring. He has no ring smarts, fights sloppy, and doesn't seem to have the KO power to stop an elite figter. He lost the Winky fight hands down. If he fights Joe Calzahge he'll get his ass beat in. That, I would pay to see. Peace-
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Originally Posted by benzo
if he beats calzahghe then winky and dose it with out ? then he will be top 3 pound for pound winky blew the first fight and the 2nd one might never happen
i still dont understand how they gave him the wins over Hopkins... he can take punches but nothing special IMO...he has potential since hes still young, i give him that much....Quote:
Originally Posted by benzo
When I first started watching Taylor (around JT vs. B-Hop fight), I was really impressed by him, but as I keep watching him more and more, I get tired of his easy technique. He never attacks his opponent, he backs up and throws a few jabs, every now and then a hook, but that's all he does. His technique is to get in a few good punches, then hold his opponent so he can't get nothing going. C'mon what's so special about that. IMO he should fight out of his hometown and get a ref that won't put up with that shit.Quote:
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B-Hop may return to the ring to fight heavyweight Maskaev?
http://www.reviewjournal.com/lvrj_ho.../11329286.html [This interview, plus other boxing news]
Dec. 10, 2006
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Hopkins sizes up massive Maskaev as comeback foe
Ex-champ, 42, eyes test vs. Russian heavyweight
By KEVIN IOLE
REVIEW-JOURNAL
In 2004, Oleg Maskaev and Bernard Hopkins fought within two months of each other, but they were 84 pounds apart.
Maskaev weighed 240 pounds when he scored a ho-hum decision over David Defiagbon on July 23, 2004. Then on Sept. 18, Hopkins weighed 156 when he knocked out Oscar De La Hoya.
But if Maskaev successfully defends his WBC heavyweight title against unheralded Peter Okhello today in Moscow, Hopkins may well be the big Russian's next opponent.
"When you think of it in those terms, regarding the weight, it's pretty incredible that I'm talking to you about fighting this man, isn't it," Hopkins said with a chuckle. "Sometimes I have a hard time believing it myself."
Hopkins, who held a share of the middleweight title from 1995 until 2005 when he lost a controversial decision to Jermain Taylor, has decided to continue boxing and has ended his brief retirement.
He'll be 42 in January, though, and said he won't fight just to collect a check.
"I only want the big fights that would have historical implications," Hopkins said.
A bout with Maskaev would have that.
Golden Boy Promotions CEO Richard Schaefer offered Maskaev $2.5 million to fight Hopkins, though Maskaev promoter Dennis Rappaport has asked for $5 million.
Hopkins said he likes the thought of the fight because of the risk it would present.
"I'd be walking the tightrope and I'd do it for three minutes a round," Hopkins said. "I'm an elusive, smaller guy with a lot of experience and I'd make Maskaev look like the Russian guy who fought in the one 'Rocky' movie -- a big, strong, robotic guy.
"It would have to be my most perfect fight, even more perfect than the (Felix) Trinidad fight at the Garden in 2001. I could win every second of every round, but all it would take would be one shot for him to crack me and it would be all over."
Should the Maskaev fight not come to fruition, Hopkins said he would like a bout with super middleweight champion Joe Calzaghe. Calzaghe has a bout scheduled March 3 against Peter Manfredo Jr. If he were to win, it would be his 20th consecutive defense, which would match Hopkins' record.
In that case, Hopkins said he would like to be Calzaghe's next opponent to prevent the Welshman from breaking his record. Hopkins expressed confidence he'd have few problems with Calzaghe, whose most notable win was a whitewash of previously unbeaten Jeff Lacy.
"Jeff Lacy has all the tools, but I saw all those punches he was taking and it was because of the things he was doing that made it hard on himself," Hopkins said. "Me and Calzaghe would be Calzaghe and Jeff Lacy reversed. You would see Bernard Hopkins taking care of this guy and you would have to ask yourself, how does this old man do these things."
ive heard about that^^ bhop v maskaev???
damn, i dont know what to think. Thing is, i cant understand how bhop just comes back fighting after promising his late mum or granma (i forgot) that he wont fight again. ok thats a minor point, but i hope he doesnt go over the top.
I suppose it can be a perfect fight if he can show his superiority like he did against that tarver. if he pulls this off, he deserves a status of legendary legend, feel me?
as for taylor. hes good, but offset by boringness. there is not much that apeals to me about his way of fighting/boxing. ok he beat bhop, but comon, that wasnt clear cut. and the fight against winky didnt prove a thing. I agree with benzo that if he fought calzaghe, hed lose.
BTW..
thats reminds me, Peter Manfredo was saying that Calzaghe is scarcly known in the american boxing scene!! serious????? after lacy hes still unknown????
i got the source on that on www.bbc.co.uk then sports then boxing, some headline.
anyway folks peace
i hope b-hop dose not return to fight maskaev
Heavyweight contender James Toney has a jelly belly, but he'll never be mistaken for Santa Claus because he's not nearly that jolly.
And Toney might be even more irritable than usual these days because, as he prepares for his title elimination rematch with Samuel Peter on Jan. 6 (Showtime, 10 p.m. ET/PT), he has traded in frequent trips to Southern California's Jerry's Famous Deli for bowls of boiled lima beans. Gone, too, are Toney's beloved cigars.
The changes came about because for the past month, Toney has been working with noted conditioning guru Billy Blanks of Tae Bo exercise video fame. Blanks, who has known Toney for several years, prescribed the healthy dose of lima beans to go with a more serious fitness regimen in order to help him be in better shape when he meets Peter at the Hard Rock resort in Hollywood, Fla., with a title shot against Oleg Maskaev at stake.
The rematch was ordered after Peter (27-1, 22 KOs) won a debatable split decision against Toney (69-5-3, 43 KOs) on Sept. 2 in Los Angeles. What wasn't debatable, however, was that the jiggly Toney was not in top condition. Nor was he in peak form for his March draw against then-beltholder Hasim Rahman.
Toney, who weighed 157 on the night he won the middleweight title from Michael Nunn in 1991, weighed a flabby 233 against Peter. He was a less-flattering, career-heavy 237 against Rahman.
"Think of what James accomplished fighting a big, strong, young guy like Peter in the shape he was in," said Dan Goossen, Toney's co-promoter. "The majority of people felt James won the fight. Now, imagine a well-conditioned James Toney and it's staggering how good he can be. It was astounding that for not being in 100 percent top condition, James was able to do as well as he did against those guys [Peter and Rahman]."
Toney always has struggled with his weight. But now at age 38 and 80 pounds north of where he won the first of his three world titles in three divisions, he finally has come to the realization that although his boxing skills are unquestioned, his conditioning habits need to change in order for him to have the best chance of beating bigger, stronger, younger heavyweights.
"James finally understands that there is more to being in shape than going to the gym every day and working hard in sparring," Goossen said. "It entails doing weights, agility exercises and running. And it also entails eating the right foods. Not going on a diet, but staying away from Jerry's Deli, where he would go three times a day.
Billy Blanks, a martial arts expert and former amateur boxer, was in attendance at the first Peter-Toney bout at Staples Center in Los Angeles
While Toney continues working with boxing trainer Freddie Roach, he said he is committed to Blanks' conditioning program.
"When I agreed to go with Billy, I told him he had my whole undivided attention, that whatever needed to be done, I would do it," Toney said. "No question or arguments about anything. I would just do it. I do not see anybody in the world train like Billy Blanks. The man is in great shape. If you look at him now, you would say this is the man you want to be. I want to be the same way."
Blanks, a martial arts expert and former amateur boxer before his fitness pitchman days, has Toney on a 1,500-calories-per-day diet. It's low in fat and carbohydrates and dominated by meals of fish and chicken to go with the lima beans.
"We are on a fat burner's diet," Blanks said. "I have somebody cooking for him and he eats five meals a day, drinking a lot of water, which he has never done as much as he is doing now. So he is cleaning his body out.
"His body is going to look like it has never looked before and his performance is going to even be better. James can outbox [most of his opponents] at the weight he was. But now, he is going to be able to identify boxing with his body and be able to make them all combine together and become a total weapon."
Even though Toney's camp expects him to be in great condition, it won't divulge his current weight.
Toney, never a fan of roadwork, is also running more.
"We run in the mornings. We are doing sprints, drills," Blanks said. "We are doing what he should have done a long time ago."
What they are doing, apparently, is working. "Before, I guess, I was not training too hard because when I went home, I would not be sleepy," Toney said. "But believe me, now I go home every night sleepy. Just try to get home, get to that couch and get to that bed."
Toney needs to do this for boxing and for himself. He's lingered around so long for good reasom...he's one of the most skilled boxers of our time. C'mon James, whup that ass so we can get a good dose of the 'Lights Out' humour.
Hopkins hopes to set up July rematch with Jones
By Dan Rafael
ESPN.com
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. -- World light heavyweight champion Bernard Hopkins, in attendance at Saturday night's Samuel Peter-James Toney rematch at the Hard Rock resort, told ESPN.com he is in negotiations to face rival Roy Jones Jr. in a July 21 HBO PPV rematch.
Hopkins won the light heavyweight title in a virtual shutout of Antonio Tarver -- who is 2-1 against Jones -- in June, then retired.
Restless in retirement, Hopkins announced recently that he planned to return. He named Jones as one of the fighters he most wanted to face.
Jones, a former four-division champion, beat Hopkins on a decision for a vacant middleweight title in 1993, and there has been talk for several years that they eventually would meet again. However, even though they were close to a deal several times, it was never consummated.
Now, however, Hopkins thinks it will get done.
One reason a rematch might be made this time around: Jones, who turns 38 next week, doesn't have any other options for a significant fight.
"We're talking to Roy. We'd both like the fight," said Hopkins, adding that the financial split would be 60-40 in Hopkins' favor.
Hopkins said Richard Schaefer, CEO of Golden Boy Promotions, in which Hopkins is a partner, will meet with Jones next week in his hometown of Pensacola, Fla., to hammer out a deal.
Jones lost three in a row, including on brutal knockouts to Tarver and Glen Johnson, but won his comeback fight last summer when he outpointed Badi Ajamu.
If the Hopkins-Jones rematch is made, it would mark Jones' return to HBO, which fired him as an announcer in late 2005.
Hopkins said he intends to reunite with fitness guru Mackie Shilstone, who served as his conditioning coach as he moved up 15 pounds from middleweight to light heavyweight.
"I'm about 185 or 190 right now, but I will be back at 175 and be in great shape," Hopkins said.
Hopkins, who turns 42 next week, said he isn't coming back for just one fight.
"Three more," Hopkins said.
Hopkins (47-4-1, 32 KOs) said after fighting Jones (50-4, 38 KOs) he hopes super middleweight champ Joe Calzaghe will come up to light heavyweight to challenge him.
Hopkins' original HBO PPV date was July 14, but he said HBO moved it to July 21. Dan Rafael is the boxing writer for ESPN.com.
I hope Hopkins doesn't ruin his reputation. Any results from tonights fight? (No Showtime)
peters won ud
Hopkins will beat the shit out of Roy, I say TKO straight-up. Roy will pull out more than likely since he's not getting his 50%. Maybe he's finally let reality set in a bit?
I'm done with Toney. He didn't even man up to losing the fight when it was one of his worst fights ever! Dude needs to fuck off-
i wanna see mayweather vs pacman !