What are your unpopular opinions on hiphop that you like to say, not giving a fuck?

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Originally Posted by Khematik

Study the lyricism then you'll understand. Note the significant difference of Jay pre-Reasonable Doubt and on the album. Nas, and many won't like this or think it's nonsense, started a new way of writing. His rhymes were very mystique and introvert but still able to be understood by the mass.

Case in point It Ain't Hard To Tell; "My mic check is life or death, breathing a sniper's death...I drank Moet with Medusa, give her shotguns in hell".

Can I Live; "Hand dead in the mic, forgettin all I ever knew, convenient amnesia" and Bring It On; "Money make the world go around so I made songs to spin" (One of Jay's best ever line!!!).

All in all, what I'm trying to say is that Jay noticed the small details and ran with it plus he was a big fan of Nas. With the Cuban Linx issue, I see where you're coming from, I believe that the drug/player niche was an image/persona decision but Illmatic inspired, lyrically.

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Yeah.

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Originally Posted by NY_Mami

Pac is mad god...... MAD MAD god..... yeah I said it..... get over it.......

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Originally Posted by Chungsanity

1. Common, Talib Kweli, and Mos Def are all overrated. wackass jazzy backpack beats with their stupid conscious bullshit - I dont buy into that. resurrection was far too overrated, only good songs being resurrection and I used to love her. rest are wack cause of commons monotone delivery. they all need to write a book instead if you wanna express knowledge.

2. ATLiens is by far the most overrated album ever considered a classic.

3. Lupe Fiasco is the most overrated rapper ever since he entered the game.

4. Rakim is the most overrated rapper OF ALL-TIME. his monotone style puts me to sleep. no swag, no charisma. he gets a pass for being a pioneer but other than that, his style is straight up wacka nd puts me to sleep.

5. AZ shouldve retired after his 2nd album. he's done nothing after that, talkin about the same shit. his career is an epic failure.

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I also added my 6th point after:

6. Guru is the 2nd most overrated rapper ever, behind Rakim. he only sounded nice cause he was laced with Premo beats. his monotone shit doesnt bump around my way. garbage rapper.

Im gonna end my 10 unpopular commandments with 4 more:

7. Eminem's delivery is weak as fuck. dont get it twisted, this isnt a race thing but if he had that crazy voice like Vinnie Paz, he would sound much doper. someone already mentioned Em's delivery = weak in this thread to prove my point so props to whoever said it.

8. Snoop Dogg's prime was only in 92-93 during The Chronic/Doggystyle era. he's been trash since then.

9. Prodigy is the most underrated rapper ever especially lyrically. in his prime, he was overshadowed by the Big/Pac beef, and when Takeover dropped, he was still dropping real shit. I miss P dearly and I hope he continues dropping fire once he leaves jail.
Apostle's Warning = top 5 verse in hiphop of all-time, and Im probably the only one to realize that.

10. the most infamous opinion: Reasonable Doubt is the greatest hiphop album ever. who gives a shit if it didnt impact the game immediately. 13 years later, every joint still sounds fresh. RD > OBFCL lyrically and production wise, especially when it comes to honest thought-provoking lyrics. the mafioso image mightve been inspired but haters gotta realize RD was HARDLY about the cosa nostra shit. he has lines about classic gangsta characters here and there, but it was mostly about hustlin and the decisions you should make in life between good or bad.
RD > Illmatic. Nas made it a hot line, Hov made it a hot song. reduce RD's 14 tracks to 10 like Illmatic and yall would say RD in a different way. that's why illmatic is probably the most safe album to praise, cause it never had that extra track or 2 or 3 to degrade it.

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Originally Posted by Chungsanity

Reasonable Doubt is the greatest hiphop album ever

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Originally Posted by Chungsanity

RD > OBFCL lyrically and production wise

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Originally Posted by Chungsanity

RD > Illmatic.

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1. Biggie and Pac are both overrated
2. I like Lupe a lot I think hes got big time potential
3. Weezy is absolute garbage now
4. Get Rich or Die Trying was decent but not a classic
5. Eminem really isnt that good, his delivery and flow is weak and a lotta times he really aint got shit to say.... hope Relapse is decent maybe ill change my opinion
6. Reasonable Doubt > Illmatic... I like Jay and Nas about the same and I think they are both all time greats but like the above poster says every track is still fresh and it seems to resonate with me much more
7. dont get the fascination with Big Pun, Fat Joe or Pimp C... sorry to lump em all together

How the hell is guru overrated?

soulja boy is entertaining.... "hopped up out the beeeed, turn my swag on" albeit a terrible rapper its all in good fun when youre drunk

busta rhymes is one of the best n is prolly the most consistant relevant rapper...dude's had #1 hits from all his albums since he started in 96 and is still mad underrated

y'all hate on nas too much





and how is em's flow n delivery weak??

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Originally Posted by YungSunny

How the hell is guru overrated?

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fo real, smh @ chug calling him overrated...

guru is more underrated then overrated, people hate on his flow and voice, but it blends well with premo's beats. its a nice relaxed flow that anyone can take in, even a lil kid.

gangstarr>>>>

Ok maybe I was a little hasty when I said Ems flow was weak, the point I really wanted to get across was that I think hes boring and I dont care too much for his lyrics... I will stand corrected because I do like his flow

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Originally Posted by drippie k

soulja boy is entertaining.... "hopped up out the beeeed, turn my swag on" albeit a terrible rapper its all in good fun when youre drunk

busta rhymes is one of the best n is prolly the most consistant relevant rapper...dude's had #1 hits from all his albums since he started in 96 and is still mad underrated

y'all hate on nas too much





and how is em's flow n delivery weak??

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the only tracks that he went in on with aggression were the way I am, sing for the moment and when Im gone. all the other tracks had that vintage 12 year old voice.

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Originally Posted by Chungsanity

the only tracks that he went in on with aggression were the way I am, sing for the moment and when Im gone. all the other tracks had that vintage 12 year old voice.

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Well said sir

2Pac sucks.....should have just written poetry or gone the Sharpton route. Fuck his songs (except like 3 joints......Got My Mind Made Up making it cause of the beat and everyone else)

Biggie + Pac = most overrated ever. Biggie's dope but he got 1 album, maybe 2. Pac I already addressed

Underground rap fans are annoying as fuck = i used to be one, i get it. but really, if you can't just admit something's hot cause it's on the radio then fuck your angry ass. El-P ain't never gonna make it so stop telling me he's the greatest ever. Clearly he ain't


N.E.R.D, Rhianna, Ne-Yo, J. Holiday, M.I.M.S. and a bunch of others got fucking joints. When something is hot it's hot, fuck whatever. shit is hot


Bitch tracks are fucking dope, even Cassie got joints


CANIBUS SUCKS, Rip the Jacker excluded

Lil Wayne is the biggest homo in the game and doesn't belong



Juelz and his "i'm in love with you so, in love with your soul" bullshit ass rhymes are fucking dope. Fuck it, on the right beat I will listen to "santana the great, bandana his face" a million times



Dre sucks now (except that Topless joint)


Eminem has sucked since Slim Shady LP


Busta Rhymes is not as good as everyone says (yeah I got all his shit, love all his albums, even the ones people forget about, he still ain't that great)



A good flow and hot beat wins over the most intelligent shit on the wackest beat, all day, if it ain't hot in 7 seconds then fuck it



Immortal Technique is garbage, read a book hippies and militants


Kung fu sucks


That last one was purely wu-tang related



Puffy is awesome, his whole shit is brilliant, and he makes hot tracks, and signs hot aritsts



For some of ya'll in here.......Jay-Z is the king of rap


Nas last two albums were fucking dope as hell





Kanye West is the most consistent artist of the decade



JOE BUDDEN IS THE BEST MC IN THE GAME (other than Jay-Z)

^^ major props for that man!!
i agree with almost everything, except for the pac stuff & the dre being wack (my god i hope he isnt wack when he drops)

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Originally Posted by cap

^^ major props for that man!!
i agree with almost everything, except for the pac stuff & the dre being wack (my god i hope he isnt wack when he drops)

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i want more than anything for detox to be hot, but i ain't getting my hopes up

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Originally Posted by cap

i agree with almost everything, except for the pac stuff

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