Something's wrong with that Forbes link.
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http://www.forbes.com/video/3539838762001/
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Something's wrong with that Forbes link.
EDIT:
http://www.forbes.com/video/3539838762001/
Wow
That track with Ghostface sounds hard as fuck!
That beat slaps like crazy Cilva hahaha you mofo keeping this shit locked away!
If every song has that type of intensity and energy then damn, I might have to go to a museum.
Shit sounds great for a so called "Copy&Paste" Album :thumbup:
Good stuff
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Originally Posted by 9th Chamber
Wow some of you need to calm down. There's tons of silly of things you can disagree with but fuck it's not the end of the world. Ultimately it's Cilva's album and he can try whatever he wants with it. Maybe it will work for him ,maybe not. Maybe he really doesn't want or care if you'll be able to ever hear it or get a copy of it. If that's the case then don't support it or go to the museum shit or whatever. But if you never listen to it, you'll live.
Plus you can always get the half assed Better Tomorrow that probably won't have Rae on it. It's pretty much bad timing to have the available album seeming to be such a mess but it's not Ringz' fault they can't get their shit together for anything anymore
A 14 minute documentary by Forbes on the album: http://www.forbes.com/sites/zackomal...um-in-morocco/
LMFAO....this thread has comedic moments...might have to revisit a few pages back lololol deadQuote:
Originally Posted by brightscreamer
Lmfao oh fuck....deadQuote:
Originally Posted by ol dirty abbot
dead as fuck!!Quote:
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Originally Posted by josborne3680
LMFAO dudes are even preaching and shit lmfao..dead as shit
thxQuote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
when the guy opened the jewel case, was that just a mirror inside? I thought we were going to see the album cover. that Yahya artist really takes his work seriously
Cool update video.
So we finally got a(nother) snippet.
The beat sounds good. Too bad Ghost is rhyming in his 2010's Simple Style. But maybe it works in the song. Will wait to hear the full version in 2048 to judge.
So here's the thing I don't understand. This is not to attack the wu personally but...
- If this is truly for art why not use the proceeds of the sale for charity? To regenerate the communities of Brooklyn and Shaolin where these rappers come from.?
Then you kill two birds with one stone. You further the artform but then link it back to everyone having a better tomorrow. There is no stronger statement than that!!
- I don't understand why we have to create a time capsule for wu tang 90s sounding music. This already exists.
- In truth the value in this package is going to be the standard of the music. Personally I am not going to buy this based off lavish packaging and grand marketing ideas. This is because essentially people who have been down with Wu from day one did not care about those things we loved their talent. To me this is no different in objective than the Enhanced CD ides for Wu Tang forever.
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Originally Posted by redz
Because they're greedy and don't care about anything but their bank accounts. Ungrateful ass motherfuckers. I have every RZA album ever, but I will never support his shit again.
Hahaha comparing this to the Mona Lisa? Saying you can only see that in the gallery? Well you can take a pic of it, and then see it wherever you want,
Sure the quality isn't as good but you can still see it. You can't take a listening device into this or whatever, so I guess it's nothing like that.
Good documentary. Reporter was luckier than a 'random' Bangbus invitee. Guess we could have spotted that '36th chamber' !haha! joke from a mile away. But hey, that guy was inside a palace close to that box while I'm idling in front of a laptop so the joke IS on me... Box inside a box inside a box has a classy design. Great to hear another snippet. This and the whole 'It's coming' thread point to a quality product.
Yup, thought it was a mirror too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cubanlinx95
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Originally Posted by brightscreamer
buhahahahaha lol ...........Classic.
Very good suggestion and maybe this idea was already on the table for a PART of the proceeds. I understand and respect the fact that costs have to be covered for all parties involved (Ringz, artists, technicians, people responsible for mixing etc. but also the original investor who supplied Cilva with a budget and who will definitely get AT LEAST a recoup) and people need/want a payday, even though this is a statement about art & music. (I don't think these things are mutually exclusive.)Quote:
Originally Posted by redz
I see where you're coming from but I personally see no reason to complain about additional music with that 90s Wu feel. An extra set of good songs that make up an album that sounds cohesive is an interesting bonus in my book.Quote:
Originally Posted by redz
Point taken, especially as to what you said about why people originally fell in love with the Wu. Then again, the 'W' sign was a marketing brand in and of itself from the very beginning. And I can't say I'm mad at this art work (box in a box in a box thingy), it looks really cool to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by redz
dead @ a jew from Tel Aviv buying it
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Originally Posted by redz
I can't anymore.....lololol
well yeah, it was a mirror, but I was wondering if they purposely took out the art cover so people don't get to see it until they go to the museum and see it for themselves. a nickel and silver box (although it looked nice) doesn't really do much for meQuote:
Originally Posted by 5th state
Wack clone ass mf trying to sound like Glaciers. Credit where credit is due, this is a very ingenious scam.
There's bound to be a booklet with album info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cubanlinx95
I wonder are Cilvaringz and RZA plan on retiring from music after they get their payday after this album. Because I can't imagine that they'll get anymore support from their fan base. Great way of making some quick big money, horrible way of treating your fans. The only ppl who could possibly think this is some genius idea are thirsty fans who think everything Wu related is a classic, they've settled for mediocrity due to the low overall quality of mainstream hip hop today. So of course anything that says Wu on it is brilliant to them. This is perhaps the only project in 14 years worth calling a classic from the generals, but it wouldn't matter to the thirsty fans because they think everything is classic, they're probably still bopping their heads to The Man With The Iron Fists soundtrack and 8 Diagrams like they're masterpieces. So they could care less, Wu could still do no wrong in their eyes and ears.
the same kids who never gave a shit about these guys growing up will one day listen to albums like illmatic, 36chambers, etc and transform. ive seen so many 18 yr old-23 heads (im 27 and even im too young to understand wu but im from stat it sorta was meant nto be).people wbho didnt grow up with wu tang are becoming huge fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by sinfullycute
WATCH AS THIS GENIUS TROLLS THE WHITE MAN FOR MILLIONS
I just watched that Forbez piece with Cilvaringz...Word Is Bond..I FUCKING Hate Wu-Tang! I feel like these niggaz Slapped Me!! Letting that Bitch ass White Boy enjoy the music. Im not Racist..if the White Guy was a street dude and of the culture..there would'nt be any problems. My white friends and i had plenty of Weed and Beer filled Wu nights in the 90's. I Swear to God on my Fucking Life! Im going against the Clan..Im with Rae..these niggaz is Clowns...it's not about the Album anymore..it's the Fucking Principal of what they're doing to us. They took us for Granite...As much as Metallica can be jerks..THEY WOULD NEVER DO THIS TO THEIR FANS!! I will always put on the Old albums and reminisce..because i was Selling Crack in the 90's...they were like my Beatles..soundtrack to my Wild Teenage Years. Now Prince and David Bowie are Giving Wu-Tang Advice! Im gonna get them!! That Ghostface Shit with CHER on It Was FUCKING CRAZY GREAT!! I like Cher..im old school.....Rich Dudes get Cher..we get Nathaniel! AHHHHHHHH!! HELP ME MOMMY!! LOL...im just playing..but i still hate WU...fucking sell outs.....i wonder what happened to Y-Kim...im dying to hear what he thinks of this whole Gimmick.
LOL@ at the Cher commentQuote:
Originally Posted by HEZAKYA
it's not the whole Wu who is the blame though, it's CilvaRZA. RZA doesn't give a shit about his fans since he became Bobby Digital (tho I liked the first two albums). And Cilvaringz is basically saying fuck you guys, he trolled Wu fans for years....just to shit in our faces with this idea. The only ones beniftting are him and RZA,and I suppose the person who owns the album. This is pure elitism right here.
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Originally Posted by brightscreamer
Thank you ^^^
Wu-Tang Clan affiliated producer Cilvaringz details the making of the group's one-copy album and avoiding leaks.
In a recently released video from Forbes, Senior Editor Zack O’Malley Greenburg interviewed several individuals involved in the making of the Wu-Tang Clan’s Once Upon A Time In Shaolin while visiting North Africa. Set primarily in the Moroccan city of Marrakesh, Greenburg speaks with the album’s producer and past Wu-Tang Clan collaborator Tarik “Cilvaringz” Azzourgarh.
“When a new idea like this meets the public arena, it kind of takes a life on its own,” Cilvaringz said of the concept.
“I didn’t really tell anyone until I really had the idea of what it was going to be,” he said. “Even then it was so difficult to really define, ‘Okay, this is the idea, this is where it comes from, and this is what it’s gonna do.’ To every Clan member whom I called once the idea was kind of set, it took an hour or more to really break it down. That’s not because they didn’t get it. They got it. They couldn’t see the greatness of it, or the importance of it rather, until they had the whole picture. You’re gonna get that in a nine people crew. It’s a big crew, a lot of opinions, visions on things. No one was against it and some brothers were really, really for it and said, ‘Yes, let’s do it.’”
Explaining the process of actually producing and recording the record, Cilvaringz explained an intricate process designed to avoid any potential leaks.
“The production of the album was done here in Marakesh beforehand and it was in a very unconventional way because I produced the music, I selected the beats,” the producer said. “First, [I] sent them to RZA for reviewal. Song titles were already made up. Based on that, [the] selection was made as to who has to be on which record. With that we went to Staten Island, New York and basically got the guys together. The recordings, they weren’t allowed to have, they had beats—sometimes they actually had beats that had the similar sound but wasn’t the actual beat. Had the same BPM, the same speed and everything, but they would rhyme with something that would sound...much later. I just couldn’t afford for it to leak. They were never given the final copies including RZA.”
Speaking on the aesthetic of the album itself initially, Cilvaringz described sacrificing the potential career clout involved in the one copy concept.
“Raw,” he said of the snippet and the album’s sound. “Rugged. Even the way we mixed it. Even the way we mastered it. We used Ken Lewis for the mixing who's done Watch The Throne, Twisted Fantasy [from] Kanye. He’s done some big acts that had a bit of the rough sound, the dirty gritty sound. The whole approach of it had to be ‘93 to ‘97.”
Asked directly about balancing the intricacy of making the album with the possibility that very few people might hear it, Cilvaringz detailed feeling persecuted by Wu-Tang Clan fans.
“I thought about that a couple times because I’m very proud of the album,” he said. “I feel that the sacrifice is greater. I truly believe, despite everybody thinking that this is some great publicity stunt or marketing ploy, this has been a genuine concept from the get-go. So it happened to get a lot of publicity. Great. But it is a genuine concept with a genuine core and a genuine goal. If I have to sacrifice the record for a greater good, to get the point across, to make the statement—I’m being crucified by Wu-Tang fans everyday...They go for me, and I understand it. It’s understandable. But I really believe in this approach. I think it’s very necessary. I think people are responding to it in a very interesting way.”
Elsewhere in the mini-documentary, Greenburg interviews the man largely responsible for the album’s bespoke and one-off packaging.
“Nothing’s mass made,” Yahya, a British-Moroccan artist commissioned with the box’s making said. “I couldn’t really work out how we could actually do something together. They said, ‘No we’d just need one.’ That’s the key to the whole thing but for us to explain we’re gonna have to sign you up to a confidentiality clause. I said, ‘Sure, sounds a bit of fun.’”
“It’s a box within a box within a box,” Yahya says as he unveils the packaging for Greenburg and the camera. “This has been carved in nickel silver. We decided to encase the world famous logo of the Wu-Tang Clan within...treated as an art-piece which it is. Inside you have another box, and inside this is encased the CD with their special casing. But for security reasons, we have taken it out so today what you see is just the actual artwork which houses the CD.”
“We had about ten guys working over three months from start to finish to make it. From the people who initially carved the metal, flattened it, textured the surface, constructed the wood, put it all together, mount it, finish it, line it with leather. You have about ten different skill sets needed in order to make this one box.”
Near the end of the video, billionaire founder of Virgin Records Richard Branson offered a quick comment on the group’s concept.
“I love the idea,” he said. “I think anything that people can collect as collector’s items, it makes life more fun. I expect it will end up being the most copied single copy of an album ever. I take my hat off to them for a really fun idea.”
Source : hiphopdx.com
You are right Wudecepticon..it's RZA's "Hollywood" ass and Cilvaringz doing this...Cilvaringz is enjoying all the Publicity and new found Fame...he's Trolling us. But FUCK THAT..The rest of the Wu gotta take this L. Guilty by association. If we hold ALL OF THEM Accountable for RZA's Get rich quick Schemes...they all would band together and stop his Hair Brain Schemes from happening. Right now Raekwon is Alieniated..but he been trying to tell us RZA's been on Mars for years. He's "lost in space". We just thought Ghost and Rae was Hating...but now we know better. So the whole Clan is Rza's Co-Defendents. If we put pressure on the Clan...they'll put Pressure on the RZA//time for a Boycott..im fucking serious....we made these dudes...if it was'nt for us...these niggaz would still be buying 40's from the corner store Bodega. WE HAVE THE POWER!! BOYCOTT THESE FAKE FIVE PERCENTERS!
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Originally Posted by brightscreamer
Same. It's crazy how RZA does these interviews talking about ABT is for the fans and this album (the quality one) is "art" lol so he's basically admitting that reunion album is a shit album that fans deserve and the art album is for ppl with fat enough wallets to enjoy in their inner circle. RZA is the reason why Wu fell off, instead of releasing The Cure he went "digital" on us. Albeit I liked Bobby In Stereo, it's a cult classic, but that's not direction Wu should've went into after "Forever", that wasn't elevating their music. He's the very reason why the music has declined and why Rae doesn't wanna fuck with him anymore, and yet he feels the fans don't deserve the best because the value of music has went down. You can't make any argument like that without observing what you did wrong to cause the value of music to go down, how about the fact that youve been putting out mediocre music that hasnt been worth buying in over a decade? When you [RZA] are mostly the blame for fall of the Wu-Tang's standard of music, you wanna punish the fans for not supporting your projects? That makes alot of fuckin sense.
God, how a tag line can make it sound more dramatic than how it was actually said... lol.. I need some media training I guess.
Yeah, we already know you don't give a solitary fuck.
C'mon brother Sha... dont be like that
That's how the media get down.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
Cilvarings. Don't listen to them. The mark of a good idea is how much people lash out at it. This is a great way to revalue music as a whole and make history. wu fans feel entitled to everything so fuck em.
Co-sign.Quote:
Originally Posted by TSA