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come on, bhop remains a legend. he will be thinking "fuck calzaghe" and besides bhop knows that people dont look at him as a loser. arguably he won.
bhop must however, in order to protect his image, quit fighting and just stick to promoting etc.
joe should have a go at pavlik, but most likely he will just go to roy and end it there. no surprises who will win between joe and roy.
How about B-Hop v. RJJ on the undercards (Finale fight for B-Hop). Then for the main event... Calzaghe v. Pavlik? The winner should take on RJJ for the biggest money fight of their career. That is if RJJ can beat B-Hop like he says he can.
How does everyone see this week's fight ending? De La Hoya for UD or KO against Forbes? I think the Golden Boy needs to score a KO if he has any chance of a rematch against Mayweather.
Calzaghe won't fight Pavlik IMO because the risk of him getting knocked out is too great. Add in the fact that Joe's punches won't seriously hurt Pavlik, and then you have Joe and RJJ gettin it on. RJJ already said on record that this is the matchup that ALL parties involved want so I'd bet my ass that we see RJJ vs. Calzaghe soon.
DLH does need to build off the momentum of his last fight and come out firing for a KO. Even though he lost, he looked strong and aggressive against PBF. If DLH gets all "boxy" with Forbes, that's not a good sign as far as where his head is at. Goldie better bring the killer instinct or else Forbes will be fuckin with both Floyd and Oscar's "payday" lol.
I think Pavlik would control Calzhage with his jab. But then again, nobody gave Calzhage much credit for adapting in the Hopkins fight because he really had to change his gameplan, and i think he did successfully.
I still think he won 8 to 9 rounds in that fight.
i agree nicky,Quote:
Originally Posted by NickyTooch
but benzo mentioned the truth in the matter which is that joe would not risk his entire career stats against pavlik. joe does not need pavlik to become hall of famer, he already is.
lets be reminded, joe is not that young either, he is conditioned and can last 12 rounds easily, but pavlik is the sort of guy joe would need if he had something to prove.
rjj is ultimately the best way to get out of the game for calzaghe. rjj is a very known individual, a calzaghe v rjj superfight would generate more money than a pavlik v calzaghe fight. u know that homie. joe wants that retirement money.
if joe wins against rjj, he would have become champion 10 years ago against chris eubank (legend), and still be champion beating rjj ("legend")
Pavlik vs Calzhage would be a nice fight
Pavlik vs Calzaghe no doubt would be a big money fight, I think Calzaghe would still go for it. C'mon, with that new promotion from Afliction for Pavlik, it damn sure will be a known fight, seeing as Calzaghe is almost a household name in the UK, and has pretty much become bigger than Hatton, almost any fight Calzaghe is in will be big bucks. Especialy with a champion such as Pavlik. Calzaghe will most likely be paid the same money if not close to the same money in an RJJ fight tan a Pavlik fight, so money really isn't the real issue when it comes to the two fights.
Did anyone watch Friday nights fighs??? Between andrey Tsurkan(sp) and Jesse Feliciano.....i was dead tired from working all day and fell asleep in the fifth round. It was a helluva brawl, i was wondering how it ended.
I didn't, but did you watch boxing on wednesday? Fucking Estrada KO'd some dude I ain't heard of, and these other dudes who had both gone the distance with Hatton vs'd eachother, it was a helluva night.
Anyone watch the Joel Julio v. Ishe Smith fight? Julio won on UD. Both of these fighters have potential. Julio is 23 yrs old and has a 33-1 (30kos) record. And Ishe has superb defense, his only problem is that he's all defense and no offense. If someone (roger mayweather) can teach him to be more offensive, I can see him being top 10 light middleweight in a year or so.
De La Hoya v. Forbes in 2 days. Golden Boy KO in 6th. Peace.
Yeah I saw that fight, I have the feeling Julio is going to be a big name... And funny thing is is that Roger Mayweather was in Ishe's corner... I don't know if that was his trainer for his training but he was there helpin' him and wasn't very effective.
I'm gonna say DLH TKO 9-10th round.
this is a fight im definitely not gonna pay for. But if it was free i'd make sure i watched it.
^good thing for you that it's on free HBO, NOT PPV, at 10 Eastern Time. Peace-
it would be funny if DLH lost
excellent newsQuote:
Originally Posted by benzo
it would! too bad he'd still fight PBF on PPV regardless....Quote:
Originally Posted by hectis
Decent fight....lots of action. That is the Oscar i like to see, aggressive w/ the combo's. If he fights like that against Mayweather in the rematch it should be interesting.
yeah but pbf is a total different league compared to forbes.
Yea, if Mayweather landed some of the punches Forbes was landing last night, then De La Hoya would be on his back. I don't think he has a chance in the rematch.
I dont know that Mayweather has that kind of power to be able to drop De La Hoya like that. Oscar has a strong chin.
I just think that if Oscar forces the action more as opposed to last time, he can win more rounds and maybe put junior on his back with a left hook.
Can't wait for the fight.
Mayweather—much like James Toney—often utilizes the 'shoulder roll'. The shoulder roll is an old-school boxing technique in which the right hand is held normally or slightly higher than normal, the left hand is down around the midsection, and the lead shoulder is raised high on the cheek in order to cover the chin and block punches. The right hand (from orthodox stance) is used as it normally would be to block punches coming from the other side, such as left hooks. From this stance, Mayweather blocks, slips, and deflects most of his opponents' punches, even when cornered, by twisting left and right to the rhythm of their punches. in my opinon mayweather has the hand speed and the defense to beat de la hoya again. should be an interesting match
Yeah, most of the posters here are familiar with the shoulder roll... Anyway, while I don't see PBF dropping DLH, I can see Oscar eating alot of leather based on his performance Saturday. The counters that Forbes were landing (2 to the body, left to the head) would have much more damage on them coming from Mayweather. Oscar's got a beard on him, though, so it COULD be an interesting rematch. Oscar's jab was in full effect on Saturday and that's gonna be crucial against PBF.
yeah, a good jab that LANDS will take oscar quite far. i agree that PBF wont floor oscar, but PBF has a good record when it comes to rematches. he won well against castillo second time round imo.
the only thing that oscar can do now, is learn from his past mistakes v PBF, ie land more clean pnches, and be set for 12 gruelling rounds hopefully.
i dont know whether i would want to watch the second fight, given the anticlimax of the first. lets see closer to the time.
Is mayweather gonna fight anyone before he fihgts De La Hoya again?
^ doubt it.
if both sign an official deal, they will promote and market this fight like no mans business...
I don't that would be wise, his last "fight" would've been at Wrestlmania.
lol at wrestlemania. pbf is all about the money now, boxing is the least of his concerns.
what's pbf mean?
PBF = Pretty BORING Floyd
FMM = Floyd Money Mayweather
oh alright, didn't know that you did that "initially". pun intended
pbf = pretty boy floyd. (no norway)
Bg already had that covered...
That's still better than "money" mayweather. "Money" mayweather just sounds lazy, you know?
pretty boy = vanity/homo
money = cocky
i mean all boxers have over the top adjectives to describe themselves or exagerrated nouns, but floyd's names sucks...
bt not his boxing..
^feed the Pretty Boy to Cotto and watch him get eaten alive.... PBF can't stand up to those body shots, no way.
I agree....but PBF could prove his greatness if he is indeed great by going thru all of these worthy contenders.
If he fights Oscar and retires, I dont' consider him a great. He has to fight these worthy opponents.
He's doing himself a disservice. Maybe he's afraid of not lookin pretty anymore???
^ Exactly.
PBF is ducking Cotto, Margarito, Mosley, and Judah (for rematch). Because he knows he has a better chance to losing to those fights. Judah is one of the only fights to go the distance with Floyd, and both Cotto and Margarito are better than Judah at this state. Like Nickey said, PBF is afraid of another fighter making him look ugly instead of pretty. I believe thats why he changed his name to "Money Mayweather", because he knows he won't look pretty anymore but he knows he'll have the money.
man u all really don't like mayweather
and I would take PBF over cotto