Mathematics - Black Samson, The Bastard Swordsman feat. entire WTC

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Originally Posted by josborne3680

“Too many features” and “underwhelming”? Damn u guys are never satisfied. If this is new verses/material this is wild to me that Wu fans would not be happy with a tracklist like this. Peace

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Okay so let’s be honest for two seconds here and break it down:

1. An intro, even with Kurupt, that’s still just talking.

2. The only track with more than 3 Wu members, so potentially the best.

3. A U-God & RZA track that was likely intentioned for their own project, still might, so nothing new specifically for this project. Kool G. Rap

4. Not a new track, though likely remixed since Mathematics is going for a particular sound.

5. Martial arts movie title, definitely hyped for this.

6. Same as above, just hope Cappa doesn’t ruin it with his inability to rap properly lately and random ass stupid shit he raps about.

7. Intriguing for sure, I like this duo.

8. Random 1 Wu member with a feature.

9. Random 1 Wu member with a feature.

10. ⁠Could be cool

11 Talking.

12.Random 1 Wu member with a feature, cool to have Crooked I, though.

Conclusion: some solid features but most old as fuck who are no longer on top of their game. I would’ve been way more hyped for some features by Boot Camp Click members for example who are still bringing it at their age, for example. As far as the “underwhelming” part, there’s too many 1 member tracks and tracks not recorded for this project to warrant an official new album to me.

I see 6 potentially new solid group tracks and 1 solid remix (Claudine). And that’s half of them being duos, not one with more than 4 guys and not the usual all members track. That’s not a lot when you announce a new official Wu album to me. If it is to you, then cool, but it’s perfectly fine for people to be “underwhelmed” by this announcement. It’s been 8 years since the last underwhelming The Saga Continues and 11 years since the last proper Wu album.

Also by the sound of it, Mathematics is going for atmosphering, cinematic soundscapes. This could potentially be a very interesting sound, but could also very different. I look forward to hearing it, do not get me wrong, but as a Wu album, just not much there.

My only beef would be it’s realistically just a handful of tracks. Definitely looking forward to hearing WTK and RJ on same track with RZA. Hopefully he actually has a verse. Peace

No cd release?

Guess CDs are no longer interesting. Gotta say, to end on a positive note, the handful of tracks have the potential to be the best songs they’ve done in 10 years together as I’m a sucker for martial arts movies as titles and the album covers are all sick! Definitely using it for own version of this album, which likely will cover songs from 2021-2025.

I will do my best to cop physically. no doubt

Got a feeling track 5 Shaolin vs Lama is Rap Burglars. They mention it in the song, Math produced it, Rae and Deck, “bonus” song. Hope I’m wrong tho.
It’s got M80’s fingerprints all over the features. Definitely looking forward to hearing this as a whole tho.

Nice! I’m all in for some new Wu tracks at this point.. Hopefully we’ll get a few bangers

I think I'm done buying physical releases blindly...I will wait until it is available digitally to give it a listen before buying. My expectations are not very high

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Originally Posted by Teejay

Got a feeling track 5 Shaolin vs Lama is Rap Burglars. They mention it in the song, Math produced it, Rae and Deck, “bonus” song. Hope I’m wrong tho.
It’s got M80’s fingerprints all over the features. Definitely looking forward to hearing this as a whole tho.

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I was initially going to say the bonus part could mean it’s an old track remixed, so hope not, but if it’s the original in better quality then let’s go.

The chorus has "Hold your head, sorta like Wu vs. Llama” so yeah, 99% sure it’s that track. Sounds like a much better title as well and definitely feels that probably could’ve and would’ve been the original title.

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Originally Posted by josborne3680

“Too many features” and “underwhelming”? Damn u guys are never satisfied. If this is new verses/material this is wild to me that Wu fans would not be happy with a tracklist like this. Peace

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Its a record store day release . Hope to grab a copy when its out.

First off, bit of an odd release thing. Only 5,000 vinyls, each with their own sort of variant of the cover. Artistically, you'd think you'd settle for one design. Instead you just throw out a whole bunch, probably made with the help of AI, so noone has the same, but noone has them all. A collectors nightmare. With Wu-Massacre you could atleast collect all three. (Why the hell did they never take a page from the Pokémon book. One unique thing to each version.)

Now it also will only be sold on RSD, and only on vinyl. Just completely ignoring the CD market for them as legacy artist. But it will be available on the DSP's. Though which remains to be seen. I got a hard time believing this is going to end up on BC. Though I wonder if it will end up on Spotify, or if they dare to block them.

That being said, interesting tracklist

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1. Sucker Free City (Intro) featuring Kurupt and Ralph McDaniels2. Mandingo featuring Raekwon, Inspectah Deck, Method Man and Cappadonna
3. Roar Of The Lion (The Lion’s Pit) featuring U-God, Kool G. Rap and Rza
4. Claudine featuring Method Man, Ghostface Killah and Nicole Bus
5. Shaolin Vs. Lama (Bonus) featuring Raekwon and Inspectah Deck
6. Executioners From Shaolin featuring Inspectah Deck, The Gza and Cappadonna
7. Cleopatra Jones featuring Raekwon and Masta Killa
8. Warriors Two, Cooley High featuring Benny The Butcher and Method Man
9. Let’s Do It Again featuring R.J. Payne, 38 Spesh, Willie The Kid and The Rza
10. ⁠Dolemite featuring Cappadonna, U-God & Masta Killa
11. Trouble Man (Outro) feat. Kameron Corvet
12. Charleston Blue, Legend Of A Fighter featuring Crooked I, Cappadonna and Nicole Bus (Bonus Vinyl Track)

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U-God & RZA on a track together would have just been complete to me, after the announcement of RZA. So Kool G Rap feels a bit out of place. Be it that we have not heard anything of the acual project yet, and I am basing this on that demo RZA played.

Like the rest said, the tracklist also feels filled to the brim with outside features that somehow do not feel organic. The oddest one might be to have Kurupt do an intro to a Wu album.

https://www.nme.com/wp-content/uploa...an-artwork.jpg

Seeing the cover now, this definitely reeks of AI. Shit does not even make proper sense. WTF. Hope the album is much better than the cover. Sorry Math, but I would have put you in contact with a real artist. But aye, maybe I am not the audience.

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Originally Posted by TommySuits

Cilva please leak Rainy Days 2

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​hahahahaha, lol

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Originally Posted by Jet Set

Seeing the cover now, this definitely reeks of AI. Shit does not even make proper sense. WTF. Hope the album is much better than the cover. Sorry Math, but I would have put you in contact with a real artist. But aye, maybe I am not the audience.

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Bro went from drawing the original logo to using AI for it. Oh well

Definitely gonna buy it on vinyl or CD. I loved The Saga Continues, personally. Still think it’s a banger. I’m checking this out.

He shoulda stuck with Gift Revolver. He’s done a ton of art/covers for hip hop dude, look him up. He did the Saga Continues cover. Peace