Theory on the Creation of Humans

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Originally Posted by My First Timbs

if aardvarks went down a similar evolutionary path, they too would gladly by driving to 711's and drinking slurpees.

humans are not counter nature.. we are nature

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i actually thought of that as i was posting, humans are nature so anything humans do is nature, but alot of the things we do run counter to the rest of nature.

I dont know how much of this you read timbs, but is there any of the stuff you read that is flat out wrong? Scientifically or anything?

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There is some contradictions in what the guy was saying. There's no missing link and the age of our DNA's mitrocondria so we must've got here by experiment from a higher being than ourselves, yet he goes on to say that the Mayans and another people (I read this yesterday and am typing outta memory) were already here. If they were already here with the other race stated with the genetic fun and games, doesn't that throw off the argument w/ the missing link and the DNA?

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i think that when the annunaki started creating this species there was an immediate change and there is no missing link(s) to show progression. I think, maybe, i'm getting in a little over my head at this point.

princerai, my view is that if you believe god created all then you believe god also created the aliens in the other universes. Theres too much out there for us to be the only living creatures, we gotta face that. If they are out there then they are just as much "gods" creatures as humans, even if they do shit out ice cream or what have you. Us being the children of some other of god's children, doesn't make us less of god's children.

^yeah see it says that one point but I swear that he says there was also a few tribes of humans that they had no hand in creating

yeah youre right eric, this is the whole block he talks about that in. I'm not sure if anyone's noticed, but he typed this up as about 5-6 posts so there is some disjontedness.

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As there is very little information referring to an artificial production of humans it is necessary to investigate the very appearance of humans and the circumstances accompanying it. - Allegedly, the aliens told Rael that 25000 years ago extraterrestrials produced human clones who then were seeded all over the planet. There is no evidence that at that time extraterrestrials or humans appeared in large numbers on this planet. In the fossil record humans appear approximately 50000 years ago. Also, there is overwhelming evidence that 5500 years ago aliens who called themselves the gods invaded this planet and occupied it until about 3500 years ago.

It is interesting to note that in Japan and in Yucatan there was a human population before the gods landed. When the gods arrived about 5500 years ago they brought along or produced a new, more advanced version of humans. In both cases a dual society with different languages for the ruling class and the servants developed. The original humans became the servants of the newly arrived or produced humans and the gods.

Approximately 3500 years ago a major cataclysm struck the planet. The most violent volcanic explosion of the last ten thousand years destroyed the island of Thera. The entire Mediterranean was devastated. In Greece this event cause a huge flood remembered still as Deukalion's flood because he and his wife were the only gods to survive. For 3500 years alien gods could not exist on the surface of this planet. The cloning project of Rael and Clonaid could be an attempt to change that.

Rael said the aliens who contacted him were about 4 feet tall. It is interesting to note that one set of the gods of antiquity was quite short. There are pictures and statues of gods and goddesses and they all showed common traits the world over. The gods were not only short - 3 to 4 feet. They all had extremely short bent legs, large misshapen heads and usually were very ugly. (Ptah, Egyptian god of creation; Bes, Egyptian god of love and birth; Thor, Germanic god of thunder; Polynesian gods; Aztec Bat god; Ku or Kukalimoku, Hawaiian war god; Adena God; Maya god).

There is a second set of gods and these look like humans only better. These are the gods of Greece, the deities of Egypt etc. The solution to this mystery lies in Egypt because the good-looking gods there were called deities and they ranked below the gods. In mythologies of the near and middle East as well as Greece the younger generation of gods fought the older generation of gods and defeated them.

We know the names of the older generation of gods and they are the dwarf gods. We know the names of the younger generation of gods and they are the good-looking ones that are like humans. They are the ones who had relationships with humans and it is known that all over the ancient world children were born from unions between gods and goddesses and humans.

It is not conceivable that the older generation of gods could be the biological parents of the younger generation of gods/deities. The difference in appearance is too big. Conclusion: the first generation of gods produced the second generation of gods/deities as clones of themselves. As reported in mythologies throughout the Middle East and Greece at some point of time the second generation rebelled against the first generation, their producers, and assumed all the power. Zeus became the supreme Greek god and Amun became the supreme Egyptian god. The deities assumed "god-status" and became the gods of mythology.

In view of the above one must consider the possibility that this cloning project of Rael and Clonaid could be the preparation for an invasion of this planet by aliens who were here before. This leads to the question: "why don't these aliens not simply land as they did 5500 years ago?"

When astronauts began space flights, initially, they came back disoriented and dizzy. The Russians installed magnetic resonance systems in their space station to simulate the electromagnetic field of the planet. For whatever reason, it seems obvious that the aliens cannot tolerate the present electromagnetic field because there are no reports of aliens landing and staying here for any extended period of time other than in ancient times. This obstacle could be overcome by producing cloned humans who are used to the electromagnetic field of this planet and transferring alien spiritual energies into these beings.

Whatever the implications, Rael and Clonaid's activities need to be closely watched. Ethical and moral considerations are much less of a concern than the possibility of an alien invasion via human clones produced to give ill-intentioned extraterrestrials a foothold on our planet.

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i pmed the guy who wrote it all to see if he ever finished it, i dont think he did though.

he jumps to alot of conclusions in this section and i feel his matchups probaly wouldnt work out 100% if we knew more info on what he's talking about.

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princerai, my view is that if you believe god created all then you believe god also created the aliens in the other universes. Theres too much out there for us to be the only living creatures, we gotta face that. If they are out there then they are just as much "gods" creatures as humans, even if they do shit out ice cream or what have you. Us being the children of some other of god's children, doesn't make us less of god's children.

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true that, the mathematics of the whole situation tells me we aren't alone. If you took the rarest of rare an object here on earth and then compared its mass to the total mass of everything else that isn't that one thing here on this planet and worked that out to be a certain rati. Whatever it may be, that ratio would be nowhere near as small as the ratio of what it would be if you were to compare the life-sustaining properties of this planet to the total mass of all else that we KNOW is out there. For us to be only creatures out there who are able to question their own existence is damn near mathematically impossible.

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It is interesting to note that in Japan and in Yucatan there was a human population before the gods landed. When the gods arrived about 5500 years ago they brought along or produced a new, more advanced version of humans. In both cases a dual society with different languages for the ruling class and the servants developed. The original humans became the servants o f the newly arrived or produced humans and the gods.

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Yeah right here is the one that kinda throws everything he said previously with the whole time limits off. Do these Mitrochondria in the DNA of Japanese different from the rest of the planet? If they do, it would support to a certain extent what he's saying even more, but if they are basically the same as everyone else on the planet then I think it discredits it.

i love google

http://www.archaeology.org/9609/abstracts/dna.html

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Most scholars believe that people from the Asian continent came to the Japanese archipelago in two migrations. An early wave brought the Jomon culture--hunter-gatherers who made pottery--to Japan more than 10,000 years ago. A second migration began about 2,300 years ago, when the Yayoi people, entering from the Korean Peninsula, brought weaving, metalworking, and rice culture to Japan. First appearing on the southwestern island of Kyushu, by ca. A.D. 300 Yayoi culture had spread throughout most of Japan, altering all local cultures south of Hokkaido, the northernmost island. Michael F. Hammer and Satoshi Horai are examining the extent to which the Jomon did or did not contribute genetically to the modern Japanese. Current hypotheses can be classified as replacement, hybridization, or transformation. In the first, Yayoi immigrants replaced the Jomon people. Hybridization theories claim that modern Japanese are descended from both groups, in which case they should have genes deriving from both the Jomon and Yayoi people. Transformation theories posit that modern Japanese people gradually evolved from the Jomon. Hammer and Horai, based on their study of the Y chromosome, conclude that hybridization, a mixing of Jomon and Yayoi stocks, is the most likely explanation for the origin of modern Japanese.

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looks like there's a couple theories on that, one which would not refute his point, if the jomon were replaced leaving no trace of the pre-alien human population, and the other, the jomon not being replaced and the mixing of the two people, would hurt his point because as far as i know i've never heard of people of japanese descent having a different dna structure.

That's just what one website says, but they look legitimate and i wouldn't classify archaeology.org as a frivulous site or anything.

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looks like there's a couple theories on that, one which would not refute his point, if the jomon were replaced leaving no trace of the pre-alien human population, and the other, the jomon not being replaced and the mixing of the two people, would hurt his point because as far as i know i've never heard of people of japanese descent having a different dna structure.

That's just what one website says, but they look legitimate and i wouldn't classify archaeology.org as a frivulous site or anything.

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very interesting, one might even argue that the blending happened at the hands of the aliens right? It would still put humans here though before them. Did you try to search anything on the age of the mitrochondria in Japanese? It's unlikely that there'd be any real difference structurally in any way but what about age?

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Recent analysis of global mitochondrial DNA diversity in humans based on complete mtDNA sequences has provided compelling evidence of a human mtDNA origin in Africa (Ingman et al. 2000). Less than 100,000 years ago, at least two mtDNA human lineages began to rapidly spread from Africa to the Old World (Maca-Meyer et al. 2001). The archaeological records attest that humans reached Japan, at the eastern edge of Asia, around 30,000 years ago (Glover 1980). At that time, Japan was connected to the Continent by both northern and southern land bridges, enabling two migratory routes. As early as 13,000 years ago, pottery appeared in Japan and Siberia for the first time in the world (Shiraishi 2002). Subsequent technical improvements gave rise to the Japanese Neolithic period known as the Jomon period, in which the population growth was considerable. Later, Continental people arrived in Japan from the Korean peninsula, initiating the Yayoi period, with this migration reaching its maximum at the beginning of the first millennium.

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this paper seems to lean more to the theory of evolution in its findings. The original article seemed too long to paste here but you can read it at this link.

http://www.genome.org/cgi/content/full/14/10a/1832

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Originally Posted by Eric Unseen

this paper seems to lean more to the theory of evolution in its findings. The original article seemed too long to paste here but you can read it at this link.

http://www.genome.org/cgi/content/full/14/10a/1832

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from that link,

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All the theories that have been proposed up to now to explain the peopling of Japan seem insufficient to accommodate fully this complex picture.

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hahaha

its like the licks to get to the center of a tootsie pop^ the world may never know, lmao

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Originally Posted by someguy

question everything is all I can say, BTW, why do you call yourself a "sith" in your title? an evil starwars character? giving yourself a somewhat evil title but preaching we are all part of the holy spirit? I am confused my young patawan friend.

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Yep - like a Sith - in my past I seeked the "Force" by other means that the "Jedi"( righteous) abhored.

But yo- in the End - VADER picked the devil up - and threw him into the pit....with his one remaining arm.

LOL!!!

I'm the guy who wrote that article a few years back. Thanks to Maestro for inviting me here to see all that hoopla surroundng it. While I am not going to respond in any great length here as yet, I have to admit that when I wrote it I was writing it with a healthy heaping of a Christian perspective, a perspective that has since vanished. I'm sure there are some things I se differently now, but I can barely remember what I wrote so let me go back and read this thread.

cool cool, bump also