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Originally Posted by Godbrother
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Exactly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Godbrother
religion means HOPE......without it.................... imagine livin life without nothing to live for
its a means.....its a anserw
Ms,
spirituality is contained within religion just as well as religion contains spirituality.
spirituality is a more general concept. a spiritualist might personally relate to many religions because his general state of mind is in accord with many of the principles contained within various religions.
religion is more particular and specific. usually religion is associated with a certain group of people geographically, ethnically, historically etc...
religion has many meanings nowadays.
i believe that there is general spirituality within all religions. the state of praying is a natural spiritual state of mind that all experience performing all kinds of spiritual and religious practices.
spirituality is something that people of all cultures around the earth added to their religion. it had to do with their tradition and essence, there is many places on this planet.
so now this takes a different spin.Quote:
I dont know.. I got into a big arguement with one of my friends last night...
of course I hate the RELIGION topic because many have different views on it..... now hes calling me an atheist because I do not go to church
so are you trying to analyze your judgment of action or the topic which caused the actions (whatever went down...). in other words, do you feel this problem is about you or religion?
you are not an atheist if you don't go to church and you don't need to feel bad unless you have reason to.
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Yes.Quote:
Originally Posted by MsRzaRecTaH
This the way I see it.Quote:
Originally Posted by MsRzaRecTaH
You have spirituality, but you don't have any set guidelines that are practiced by others. Your a spiritual person, but not a religious one.
Relgion is guidelines for spirituality, not nessicarily sprituality it's self.
There are people that follow religions, but don't nessicarily stick to the script.
For example, a christian that breaks one of the ten commandments, is not being very spirtitual, exspecially if he kills someone. But his religions says if he repents he'll be saved, so in this example this person is a reigious one but not really a spirtiual one.
Many people live for themselves. They make up religions for themselves and what best fits THEM. Its always selfish i think. I want to live for God, and do what God wants me to do, not for myself but for him that made me.
A religion, if practiced properly, is a way of life. The tie that binds a person to their Creator is faith. The following of the rules set forth by the Creator to the created is the way the person's faith stays strong. Religion is really a label or sorts and a weak one at that. I think someone telling you what religion they are is a lot like them telling you what country they're ancestors come from. Meaning most use it as a means of gaining interest or respect. When one who knows that their practice is a way of life, is more likely to tell you first, "I have no religion, I have a way of life." is one who understands the true meaning behind the practices. A Kung-Fu master will never tell you he is one. You'll only find out when it comes time to defend him/herself, or somone in need. Once asked his "style", the true masters will deny even having one, because so many years of practice and study has molded all of those philosophies and styles into one quiet storm.
The only way religion is used as a means to control, is when the ones who teach it misuse the message and the people who are being "taught", don't take the time to find out for themselves. Hence people will say religion in itself is the problem, meanwhile it's the corrupt people who will wield it for selfish reasons that make it so. Society in itself is lawless in this day and age, so anything that remotely resembles order is labeled the "enemy". Religion is just like anything else, there's good and bad examples.
okay now here comes the bigger question.......
WHO CREATED GOD?
That's the great mystery.Quote:
Originally Posted by MsRzaRecTaH
In lakota sometimes we refer to God as Wakan Tanka
The great mystery.
Nobody created God, God is self created. If god is a "mystery" to you, then god is unknown because a mystery is something that is unknown.
Ok mr. know it all. I'll be sure get my answers about God from you because, I know how much you worship blackmen.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
Lol....sometimes i really wonder where you guys get your info from. Who created God? .....ignorant
Why do you say that question is ignorant?Quote:
Originally Posted by LikwidSwordz
It's a relevant question. If there is a creator, who or what created the creator? Who or what created the creators creator? It's not comprehendable at this point with our current knowledge in math, or science.
We're only human. The abilities of our mind and bodies only extend through what he exploit in our natural world and elements which we have minute control over at best.
The question is a philsophical one that people have been wondering for centuries.
I dont believe its an ignorant question at all..
but Im pretty sure this question has come up in peoples minds thruout time...
I asked my friend today and his answer was simple.. GOD CREATED GOD......
In my opinion... MEN created GOD..
just like the whole Bible is a real good book.....
it seems that the best definition of god is the thing thats there with or without words to describe it or people to acknowledge it
yes - man did create the word g-o-d
it is a string of 3 letters used to describe something that cannot be seen with the physical eye
(and is therefore subject to different interpretations)
Man created the word G-O-D to describe to the blackman, an unseen god didn't come into play until plato. Prior to him, god was man, the blackman.