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what's the 5% ideology on islam? what's the 5% ideology on the meaning of islam and muslim?Quote:
Originally Posted by sidious_katana
there's nothing divine about al-islam homie....islam is not a religion.
btw, i don't need to "read" anything on how the 5% started, however you might want too because I know you don't know how they started nor do you know where they started etc. etc.
islam and allah pre-date the arabic language (meaning they were used in other languages prior to usage in arabic)Quote:
Originally Posted by sidious_katana
Islam is an awesome way of life!
According to your 5% views in your first post of this thread, the 5% ideology on islam is that the word "islam" doesn't mean submission and the word "muslim" doesn't mean one who's in submission to Allah. Islam existed before clarence 13x, so that 5%er view means nothing to me.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
There is nothing divine about the black man either. Allah is the only divine being that doesn't die.Quote:
there's nothing divine about al-islam homie....islam is not a religion.
Obviously you do.Quote:
btw, i don't need to "read" anything on how the 5% started
Even though this wasn't directed at me I'll simply state that the ideology of NGE is interesting but the "man is god" belief does not fly well with me and not enough for me to want to go THAT deep into reading how it started. Plus, I pretty much know enough of the foundation of it anyways.Quote:
, however you might want too because I know you don't know how they started nor do you know where they started etc. etc.
Imperial1
Islam and Allah are arabic words that came from two words in another language, but are not the same words in the language which those two words came from. In other words, they are derivatives of two other words from another language.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
Imperial1
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Originally Posted by Black Man
And using English to understand these concepts is the way that Islam should be understood?
A lot of information/knowledge/understanding get lost just in the meaning of the vocabulary that we speak. The english language has become Generic(in my opinion).
Arabic or English- there's difference in understanding concepts just becuase of how we speak. How we think in these languages.
Black Man, you should know, your always pointing out and trying to define different English terms.
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Originally Posted by sidious_katana
Shukronz to both of you Brothers. It's just ill to know I'm not talkin' to a brick wall and there are still some insightful and intelligent people out there.Quote:
Originally Posted by lord patch
You say, "Islam is what it is." Then you contradict it with "Does 'Muslim' mean 'One who submits to the Will of Allah? Emphatically no!" Like Sidious said, if you're talking about 5%er stuff, then that's something completely different and it really has no basis in this conversation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Black Man
You say the good doesn't outweigh the bad in Islam, I'd like you to tell us exactly how that is and what elements make this so.
Also, if "Muslim" doesn't mean, "One who submits to Allah", then I'd certainly like to know what it means as well. Make sure you bring a sound defence and not some wacky pnemonic meaning.
To further correct the errors of your statement, Islam WAS taught as a religion by The Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.) On the Farewell Pilgrimage in Mecca, this verse was revealed to The Prophet Muhammad (S.A.W.),
"This day I have completed your religion for you, completed My Favor upon you, and have selected for your Way of Life, Al-Islam."-The Qur'an 5:3
So, I'd like to know if what you said has any real backing, or wether you were just talking for the sake of being heard.....again.
True indeed. There's no solid structure behind that ideology and no rules. They were probably high as kites when that mess was thought up. It just makes it's believer think he or she is better than other people that don't look like them. Most 5's, with the exception of cats like The RZA and Ghostface, ho clearly have studied and still do study TRUE Islam, shouldn't even speak on it because most just have no clue what they're talkin' about.Quote:
Originally Posted by sidious_katana
"btw, i don't need to "read" anything on how the 5% started, however you might want too because I know you don't know how they started nor do you know where they started etc. etc."
dude do your history if you affirm so strongly with the 5%er movement.....clarence 13 x was a korean war veteran...when he got back to the usa he joined THE NATION OF ISLAM..and the fruit of islam (noi bodyguards). He questioned some of wallace fard muhammeds teachings..got kicked out the nation..and started teaching his OWN version(changing his name to allah) simple as that. Nothing divine about it just another black power movement, but unlike the real black prince malcom x he never got the fact that there is no need for radical ofshoots of islam mixed with a bit of black supremacy, al islam is all you need to achieve the status in society we all deserve..we are all brothers in islam (jews christians,blacks,browns,whites,yellows) there is no segregation!
the NGE is just another movement to re-affirm the black mans status in society ( god / the original man), understandably! the black race has been attacked by everyone since the begining (from fear no doubt), but as malcom learned as many others have, al islam is a brotherhood of mankind, the NGE is one mans (ego-driven) version of the truth..
PEACE
Word 'em up. Y'all should really listen to this cat, cuz he's tellin' the truth. Allah also tells us in The Qur'an that He divided our languages and colors so that we may come to know one another, not so we could moan, bitch, complain, fight and scratch over who's better than who. Deeds and intentions behind those deeds are the only things that make one person better than another.Quote:
Originally Posted by sidious_katana
We have a story like that in our culture too, but since indians siad it, it has no validation.Quote:
Originally Posted by Urban_Journalz
Maybe it's because we're just to lazy to make a book about it, or maybe it's because we're always drunk or we're cuasing ourselves to halloucinate. We must be really bored to the point where we need to make up fables to entertain our children.
I'm gonna go drink a beer and try and peddle my fireworks now.......
i agree with that, deeds and intentions should be behind the judgment of a character, not by his race or religon, but thats simple moral stuff, simple moral stuff which the world has forgotten about!,plagued by racist propaganda, media brainwashed stereotypes and very sinister govement motives. But as i know as do many other truly enlightened people, the shit will hit the fan very soon...lets jus hope were all ready
peace
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Originally Posted by Black Man http://www.wutang-corp.com/forum/ima...s/viewpost.gif
what's the 5% ideology on islam? what's the 5% ideology on the meaning of islam and muslim?
1st, i didn't mention anything about the 5% and their ideology, that would be your doing.Quote:
According to your 5% views in your first post of this thread, the 5% ideology on islam is that the word "islam" doesn't mean submission and the word "muslim" doesn't mean one who's in submission to Allah. Islam existed before clarence 13x, so that 5%er view means nothing to me.
2nd, islam doesn't mean submission to allah.
3rd, i don't know who clarence 13x, there's never been a clarence 13x in the nge, and the blackman is god
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there's nothing divine about al-islam homie....islam is not a religion.
allah is divine, and allah is the supreme being blackman so we agree.Quote:
There is nothing divine about the black man either. Allah is the only divine being that doesn't die.
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btw, i don't need to "read" anything on how the 5% started
likely answer from one who doesn't know.Quote:
Obviously you do.
now since you claim that islam means submission to allah, can you explain how that is?
what are those words that came from another language and what is the language?Quote:
Originally Posted by Imperial1
did you read my post blackman?...thats tha truth homie
allah and islam are not "english" terms. and don't hate that i investigate and know what words mean and you don't. studyQuote:
Originally Posted by Charging Soldier