Martial Artist Vs Boxer

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Originally Posted by THE MASON

really depends on the rules you apply to the match

is it an MMA style fight or a Boxing match, one will lend an advantage to the other.

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This is really the issue
These organizations have rules, the advantage depends on what rules are being applied
But in the real world, ain't nothin' fair about a fight
If one has to clench the other guy's testicles between his teeth, that's what they gotta do in a real fight.

But for the sake of this thread, boxers spend a lot of training time on footwork, and it does not take absolutely great footwork to avoid a "shooting" or "lunging" take down. It only takes 5 lbs of pressure to knock anybody out

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Originally Posted by angry!

see the thing is though...

someone that trains MMA their whole fight career can never dedicate enough time to their boxing to become an elite boxer that would be competitive on the professional level...

where as a boxers techinical base in boxing is already so elite... they can lose some points in that area focusing on other areas and still be head and shoulders above the average boxing specialist in MMA....

a boxer could enter MMA, drill takedown defense and scrambles and defensive BJJ and be competitive.. theyd just need to train with wrestlers and work on staying up and getting up...

some boxers are flat footed plodding counter punchers... like james toney...

but a guy like manny pac throws punches and comes in and out of range with lightening speed... i could see many pac ruining cats in MMA after 6 months in a wrestling heavy MMA gym...

if youre boxing is good enough you dont even need to know how to check a leg kick because youd control the range...

the money just isnt there yet... i think well see it eventually...

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It's gonna take a bit longer learning to counter the ground game within just a year. Especially with guys like this around

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD4348F5lrA

Theres so much involved. However i completley agree Atheletes in Boxing would adapt much better going to MMA than the other way around. Sad thing is the money isnt in it. When pac and mayweather were about to fight they were offered what 60m to win 40m to lose? That's insane. MMA money is like shoe money for those guys lol.

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Originally Posted by Fatal Guillotine

just a thought

if a skilled martial artist were to square up against a skilled boxer lets say 4 rounds(amateur type ish). who would win in your opinion?

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martial artist , at least being a high belt

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Originally Posted by Cenon

It's gonna take a bit longer learning to counter the ground game within just a year. Especially with guys like this around

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YD4348F5lrA

Theres so much involved. However i completley agree Atheletes in Boxing would adapt much better going to MMA than the other way around. Sad thing is the money isnt in it. When pac and mayweather were about to fight they were offered what 60m to win 40m to lose? That's insane. MMA money is like shoe money for those guys lol.

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truth

There's a difference between boxing and fighting, same with MMA and fighting. Both have rules.
Iron Mike in his prime, only needs to land A punch.
On the other hand, he misses and gets taken to the floor and he'd likely lose.
Of course, MMA has a lot of rules these days. He's liable to bite, elbow, scratch and those guys get upset over little stuff. Dude was crazy and powerful at the same time. Bad combination.
I guess it depends, on who the fighters are.

makes me think of the james toney randy couture fight.