How are u a devine being?

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Originally Posted by Masta-Mind

THIS THREAD IS A FLIPPING JOKE.

I regret making this shit, lol yo princerai how comes u told me 2 come back 2 ktl bro? nothing but confused kids here, u'd swear this was gen chat.


Somebody answer/ask a question or please can a mod shut this crap down. Peace 2 those who posted or tried 2 post some normal stuff

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Look at it this way, dude. If you're asking a bunch of people why they call themselves "divine beings" without them even realising why they do so, or what it means, you can't really expect a decent explanation. I knew from the get-go that you wouldn't get a half decent direct answer to your question. To find the answer to your question you'd probably have to find out which books, songs, websites etc, told these "divine beings" that they are "divine beings", and figure out what made them believe it.

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Originally Posted by LHX

i am trying to see this

but
i really cant agree

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OK... but why?

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Originally Posted by Masta-Mind

THIS THREAD IS A FLIPPING JOKE.

I regret making this shit, lol yo princerai how comes u told me 2 come back 2 ktl bro? nothing but confused kids here, u'd swear this was gen chat.


Somebody answer/ask a question or please can a mod shut this crap down. Peace 2 those who posted or tried 2 post some normal stuff

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patience brother, as soon as the enluightened come the story turns positive..


good building going on at the moment.

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Originally Posted by Ayatollah Prolific

That's deceptively simple, but very profound.

There is a Sura about the beginning of man from the Quran which basically goes like this:

Allah created Adam and asked all Angels to prostate (bow down) to his new creation in Adam. All angels did so, except for Lucifer (Devil). He told god, "I who was made of fire will not bow down to someone who is made of Dirt." Then the story continues similiar to the Judeo-Christin Exodus story of how the devil tricked Adam and Eve. God created the Earth and so on.

Simply stated: God exiled the devil because of the devils belief in his own personal devinity. In a sense, the devils egotism ruined him and was not favored by God. In a way, by God making us from dirt it seems to symbolize our humble beginning and simple nature. But god made the dirt something by his power in to a human. Therefore, to answer the thread question.

We are devine only because a devine being created us. But rather then worshipping our selves for this divinity, we should worship the deity that infused us with this divinity.

Of course... this explanation will only hold weight if one is monotheistic.

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that has been nicely put down!

this is true, we are part of divinity but it is the fact that God always will be above us, that only he can be ultimately divine.

but LHX also suggested before that.... we are part of divine thus we are divine... this has been simply put , but what truth i see in this is that, we are divine in the sense that if we follow Allah's rules.. we become part of him and do not lose the "way" first sura!

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Originally Posted by LHX

the devil is gods refining tool

he is the water that washes against the stone until it is polished enough to fit through the passage

without the devil - all creation is absolutely meaningless


(everything may be meaningless in general
but
the devil allows meaning from certain perspectives)

also
there is the fact that everything is divine
as it is intrinsically a part of the most highs creation

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if we agree that we are part of the universe... then this belief is equal to that we are also divine... in the sense as i have explained in the post before..


as for your anology of the devil.

i absolutel;y understand...

its part of the notion that... with evil we have good..

the devil suits God in the sense that.. when the devil tests man... what do we do?? do we truly loyally follow Allah or the devil?

and who created the devil?

surely as God has created the devil and Allah is allknowing, he must know the purpose of the devil..

yin n yang

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Originally Posted by Princerai

that has been nicely put down!

this is true, we are part of divinity but it is the fact that God always will be above us, that only he can be ultimately divine.

but LHX also suggested before that.... we are part of divine thus we are divine... this has been simply put , but what truth i see in this is that, we are divine in the sense that if we follow Allah's rules.. we become part of him and do not lose the "way" first sura!

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100 percent agreement with you. "we are divine in the sense that if we follow Allah's rules." This is a very important point as well.

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Originally Posted by Ayatollah Prolific

100 percent agreement with you. "we are divine in the sense that if we follow Allah's rules." This is a very important point as well.

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true

Okay, Princerai and prolific raised a point dat i never herd before, (us being devine if u obey ALLAH (SWT))

I havent come accross any verses in the Qur'aan or and hadiths to suggest this so if any of u guys have please relate them or just tell me which verse and i'll look it up insha ALLAH.

If there is no proof in Qur'aan and sunnah them one should keep his mouth shut coz this is a big subject. I dont want to say we are devine in anyway unless i have proof, if its ur oppinion or a personal theory then read the Qur'aan to see if u are right

if man was created in God's image that would mean that humans were a reflection of God's divine spirit. In being part of that reflection, all humans are devine on some level, although that divinity can go unnurtered and unrealized, it doesn't stop it from existing. This still doesn't put any human on God's level and any divinity we are capable of showing is owed to the Divine Creator.

hadn't read any previous post when I wrote this^. But man's own divinity is relayed in the very first words of the intro to the Quran. It doesn't come outright and say it but it's def. implied that man's place on Earth is a special one.

.....To Man He gave a special place in His Creation. He honoured man to be His Agent. And to that end, endued him with understanding. Purified his affections, and gave him spiritual insight; So that man should understand Nature, understand himself, and know Allah through His wondrous Sign. And glorify Him in Truth, reverence, and unity......

Our place here is different from every other living creature, and maybe divine isn't the right word for it, but we defintely have a special place in God's purpose.

".....To Man He gave a special place in His Creation. He honoured man to be His Agent. And to that end, endued him with understanding. Purified his affections, and gave him spiritual insight; So that man should understand Nature, understand himself, and know Allah through His wondrous Sign. And glorify Him in Truth, reverence, and unity......"

Where did you read that? I like it... but it seems like something someone wrote.

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Originally Posted by Eric Unseen

if man was created in God's image that would mean that humans were a reflection of God's divine spirit. In being part of that reflection, all humans are devine on some level, although that divinity can go unnurtered and unrealized, it doesn't stop it from existing. This still doesn't put any human on God's level and any divinity we are capable of showing is owed to the Divine Creator.

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i would say that to brother masta mind!


as for proof in the Quran....

the words of Eric is word...

AND also i want to say that... many things which have islamic answers have been found in accordance to islam by the virtue of the line in the quran which allows man and woman to strive for knowledge..

this suggests much that needs answering comes through thinking and analysing knowledge..

peace and blessings

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Originally Posted by A.P.

Where did you read that? I like it... but it seems like something someone wrote.

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this is from the very first verse in the introduction to the Quran, or atleast in my version, which I can't say is in all because it's the only one I've ever looked at but I assumed they all have more or less the same intro. Can anyone verify this for me? thanks and peace

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