god doesnt exist but heaven does, its between your ears you just gotta find it.
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god doesnt exist but heaven does, its between your ears you just gotta find it.
you didnt answer the question. do you believe the universe always existed or not?Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegan
so what if scientists can make living organisms. so can god. human being can have children that can reproduce too. and they can construct buildings. it just means that god has given humans the intelligence to accomplish certain things.
Depends on the religion.Quote:
Originally Posted by SUNNY WINTERS
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Originally Posted by wadeDyNaMiTe
WHAT CAN GOD DO THAT MAN CAN'T ?
At this point, that is not something I can answer using factual proof. Still, I will not attribute it to a "spook in the sky", either.Quote:
Originally Posted by wadeDyNaMiTe
you can fully believe the universe always existed but think ludacris that god always existed? that makes sense :/Quote:
Originally Posted by 7EL7
those talkin reptiles are not the snakes that god punished for decieving adam and eve and then h punished adam and eve for disobeying him when he said dont eat from the tree of life. they disobeyed and they were punished for it.
no he does not punish us for thinking about sex but will if you lust in your heart after someones spouse or if you fornicate.
I MENT MENTALY I FEEL GOD IS ALWAYS WITH ME JUST CUZ U DO NOT SEE HIM DOSE NOT MEAN HE IS NOT THERE U THINK HE IS NOT AROUND? BLESSED IS THE ONES WHO BELIFE AND DON'T SEE HIM I BET A LOT MORE PEOPLE WOULD THINK GOD WAS REAL IF HE WAS SOME KIND OF IDOL MADE OF GOLD AND SILVERQuote:
Originally Posted by 7EL7
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Originally Posted by 7EL7
HA HA HA HA HA FUNNY PEOPLE THINKING THEY CAN TEST GOD
can man make something from ABSOLUTELY NOTHING?Quote:
Originally Posted by 7EL7
the reason people dont believe god can do anything they cant is because they again try to fit god into their own understanding. if man cant do it then its impossible. man is limited by his own knowledge.
You're right about that, and that is why men attribute what they cannot understand to a creator.Quote:
Originally Posted by wadeDyNaMiTe
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Originally Posted by SlightlySlightedFan
THE DEVIL IS SMART HE TRICKED SOME OF THE ANGELS INTO JOINING HIM HE TRICKED MUCH OF MANKIND INTO THINKING GOD WAS NOT REAL HE MAKES MANKIND LOOK LIKE A FOOL BY MAKEING THEM THINK THEY CAN CREAT AYTHING IN THE END TIMES PEOPLE WILL SEE THE POWER OF GOD AND ANY THING MADE BY HUMANS WILL FAIL THEM FOOLS WHO TRY TO TEST THE HOLYMOSTHIGH
or to the big bang or a single cell organism which are both THEORIES.Quote:
Originally Posted by Vegan
Four brothers stood by a beach. A black borhter, a red brother, a yellow brother, and white brother. They all seen a shiny rock in the water. The black,white, and yellow brother begin fighting each other for the rock. The creator took the three brothers and sperated them to different corners of the earth, you will always feel home sick and someday you'll make it back home. Then he asked the red brother, why didn't you fight for the rock? The red brother replied, "look father, there are millions of rocks why would I fight over just one?" So the creator replied ok you can stay here.
It is pointless to argue over somthing we aren't meant to understand. If a comet came and wiped us out, or we killed each other off, god would just rebuild us again.
Who Told Yall That There Is A God And Devil ?
Is It Something You Decided To Believe One Day ?
Where Were You When You First Heard The Word God ?
can man make something from ABSOLUTELY NOTHING?
yes..
i can make sound by snapping my fingers togeather
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do u have proof god created somthing out of nothing
or u just know
no point in fighting ove the q...
thier is no answer to t
god or not
its all man made thearies
spoken by men
u think god looks like us
if he created the stars befor us what did he look like ..was
it just a man floating in black nowere and had a idea on doing something
maybe god is in hell and was sent to a black hole so he created this so he had something to do
and maybe thier are other just like him in other black holes doing the same
lol
god real ..no answer
when did god become a word...did some one see
guy floating in air and said god
who created the WORD god?
A "theory" is the concensus of many scientists' research over a number of years. Once a "theory" has been proven and is considered bullet proof, it graduates to being a fact.Quote:
Originally Posted by wadeDyNaMiTe
Be careful how you down-grade the word "theory". It's a big word. Especially when we're talking about something as completely impossible, and totally hair-brained as defining god.
One well known "theory", is the "theory" of gravity.
Sorry, the devil made me write that.
To hell with me and my evil gravity.
great, now make light appear by snapping your fingers and make the moon and sun and stars appear.Quote:
Originally Posted by 100pr00f
but god cant do that because man doesnt understand how it is possible with his limited understanding. therefore it impossible for god too.
has big bang and single cell organism been proven or not. yeah yeah i know neither has god buts thats the point.
i had a holy spirit encounter one night at bible study where i just flipped out praising god and so did everyone else in our group. this is from a guy who doesnt get excited like that at all. it wasnt something that i forced it was something that just happened. and person who never lifted his hands in praise of god was all of sudden dancing all over the place and going nuts at church services. that happens when the holy spirit is flowing through you.
so why do i believe in god? well because i experienced god.
Well,
For the rest of us, who have not experienced god, we have to rely on what we can see, what we can prove. Or I do anyway.
Man created all of the words that man uses to describe anything. The words have nothing to do with god at all.
And, I'll say that god is real. I'm a hardcore prove it to me type, and I can still see that this is all just way too big and intricate to say that man created god to feel better about himself, or the other way round. I just don't presume to lable that, god. All I know is that I don't know. And neither do you. In my mind anyway.
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Originally Posted by wadeDyNaMiTe
lmao dam ...........
Like I said, Evolution and Big Bang are theories, so people add on to it everyday with new findings. So the answer is yes and no.
This also has nothing to do with the god question. We have no idea what god is let alone how he/she/it paints and creates us and the universe.
Science is not an assault on faith, and people shouldn't think it is. Science is just the study of what we can see. Not of what we can't see.
The cool part about science is that scientists and researchers can explain something as simple to us as a rock. And they can spend hours doing it, and make it exciting. It's really amazing stuff.
no science is not an assault on faith, its just used for it.
and yes, if you have never experienced god you gotta go for what you know.
people who follow jesus are people who have experienced significant changes in their because of it. you cant agrue someone into following jesus cuz truthfully there is not logical scientific proof of god's existance. people share their god experiences with others. thats what witnessing is. not that im trying to convert anyone here im just pointing why so many people are following a god that cant be proven scientifically.
people figure that if they're experiencing something miraculous within themselves by believing in jesus, then maybe the stuff in the bible is truth.
asking people to postulate a theory on a presumption and/or first cause is quite like asking if fish can taste water while sleeping?
yeah but to what extent do we exist to god in order for god to exist in omni land about relation to us?
We are fish...like little sperms seeking to impregnate the womb of the human mind with genes or the genesis
like the begining of time we find the write spot at the right hour and universally power the human family through and by our infinity.
so what you're saying is that the electric currents in my head that span the metaphor of lighting striking though never repeating whether fission or fusion in respects to the growing or dying at that moment we are gods and at the same time mortal. for in that vacum of space where in the contained experiment of thoughts and material sensations (feelings emotions physical world) that has an out break outside the body we cause a mutation that has it's own cure in the family like cousins lost at first second re find themselves after miss gatherings of evolution and machines letting loose their ghost have us play host and guest to ourselves ?
Good discussion
what does god think about "The Black Market of Porn"
many peoples from many different religions have gatherings where they give their testimony - a muslim can make many changes in his/her life for the good and bear witness to others who put into practice the same disciplines that got them their results - people who worship satan can also get "the good feeling"
its all in the mind -
thats what i be tryin to tell people in my family who go crazy over religion. when u shakin and shit in church its not because the devil is gettin out of you but because its in your mind. i can't believe some people think that shit is real. but it seems like people like to stay ignorant and comfortable in what they believe in and don't want to learn the truth sometimes.
just the other day i was talkin to my cousin about religion and he was like " well my dad and his dad any my whole family is christian so im just gonna be christian my whole life". i didn't want to tell him how fuckin stupid that sounded but i just don' get how cats be so close minded sometimes.
i used to be a christian myself, i was all into it and shit too. but then i started reading about other religions and just doin a lot of research and i learned to never take somethin at face value. always look at all the different possibilities and sides of a story. there's more to one side of every story. that helped me realize how stupid some religions are and i can't really even believe i believed in that stuff at one points.
but yea, i don't know why i was ramblin on just now
1.some people go along with whats established and never question what they were told
2. some people come to a point in their life when they start to question whats established
3. some people find answers to these questions while studying self and the establishment
4. some chose to fight against whats established
they are all different levels - those who never experienced 2,3,or 4 will try to fight those who are on 2,3, and 4
yup
wade digital you made some good points|)
I read a recent article where scientists were able to create a living cell from scratch that can reproduce itself. Where does that leave "god"?
Eh Vegan you got that article or know the name of it? Sounds interesting as fuck
From scratch? So you are saying that they made a living cell from nothing? Did it just appear? What magic word did they use?Quote:
I read a recent article where scientists were able to create a living cell from scratch that can reproduce itself. Where does that leave "god"?
anything that exist has a location