^ Yeah BPW was a missed opportunity. A big let down after SC, but really just a misstep. After this he had Pretty Toney and Fishscale which were fire albums.
RZA's attempt at replaying the sample on this one is so trash.
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^ Yeah BPW was a missed opportunity. A big let down after SC, but really just a misstep. After this he had Pretty Toney and Fishscale which were fire albums.
RZA's attempt at replaying the sample on this one is so trash.
Bpw has more replay value than pretty toney.
I always thought Pretty Toney was overrated. Maybe I gotta go back to it at some point cuz it’s been awhile. No Wu guests on the album if I remember correctly.
It's a decent album imo. Ghost did his thing on there. It's the last Ghost solo album to have RZA beats.Quote:
Originally Posted by josborne3680
Its a good listen front to back, there's only one or two skippable tracks imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by josborne3680
Masta Killa was on the original version of Metal Lungies but was replaced with The LOX. RZA produced 2 tracks.
Yeah RZA did Run and Kunta Fly Sh!t. Crazy that album is like 15 years old now that I think of it. And even crazier that Ghost hasn’t used RZA since. Peace
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Originally Posted by josborne3680
Pretty toney had some good songs. Wasn't a good album at all. Just a bunch of songs thrown together. Sad thing is it's the best ghost album I've heard since clientele.
I thought it was great and underrated. Every song is good except Tush, and had a nice feel. Biscuits is one of the best ghost tracks imo. Holla and Be This Way are up there too.
Biscuits is the best song he did after SC, without really thinking about it.
'Pretty Toney' suffered from a lot of tracks being cut from the album due to sample clearance issues. it's still a good album, but not on the level of his first 2 albums imo. I think Ghost had the right idea by going with soul samples and rapping over them (in a rawer way than say Diplomats productions) ; it would have been a more fully developed soul/rap album with more of the original tracks included.
peace
Fishscale is so much better than PT.... U gotta be insane if you think otherwise.
cmon seriously? you should really give Fishscale another spin.Quote:
Originally Posted by noel411
Burner to Burner a true Wu banger. 19 a decent Wu year so far
Agree. The album isn’t as bad as a few of these guys are trying to make it seem. Y’all just like talking shit at this point. After a few listens I’d give it a solid 4/5. Pistol Smoke is wack though, that’s the only track I Skipped. Soursop is fine but he could’ve had a better track to end the album. Beats aren’t that bad either, but as I stated earlier if he could’ve sprinkled at least 4 different producers on here it would’ve have this a boost. But this is still a good body of work and his best since Apollo Kids. 4/5Quote:
Originally Posted by New Hills 36
After reading this debate, the album is sitting here untouched. im on the fence about playing it, really had high hopes.
NAH FUCK YALL.
THIS SHITS GONNA GET SPINS TONIGHT
Bought the album off the website - Me, Denny, and Darryl is SICK
play that shitQuote:
Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN
me danny and darryl is the best song off the album no question about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Contraband
man, I'm listening to Pretty Toney right now trying to figure out what some of you guys are talking about
dude said, 'WATCH HOW YOU POP YOUR GUM' smh.
I think it's a more focused project that BPW and Fishscale, but if someone says FS is better I understand.
I've been sitting on it as well.Quote:
Originally Posted by RADIOACTIVE MAN
I honestly don't think I ever listened to PT a second time. I just remember thinking it was trash my first listen. I'll revisitQuote:
Originally Posted by TSA
Art is so subjective so everyone will have dif opinions...
Just listened to "Ghostface Killahs" twice via youtube while doing some chores yesterday so more study needed. However, from initial spins am feeling it. As stated by others, GFK seems rejuvenated w his flow and writing w wit. To my ear, seems like his rap battery got resparked from the Czarface collabo... looking forward to buying CD and listening properly!
Re "Pretty Toney". It is by no means his BEST album but based on personal history its prolly my FAV GFK solo. Just wanted to throw in my "50 cents [but not] go to war w Many Men" to paraphrase the Deck line on his feature lol.
W attention from "Of Mics and Men", "Wu Tang: An American Saga", "Chamber No. 9" and "Ghostface Killahs" seems like potential for solid wu resurgence. Hope they can cap it off w a proper Clan album as an exclamation point! PEACE
I’ma give it a 3,75 rating. Ghost is on point, beats are hit or miss. Seems Deck got the best ones from this Danny dude..
Me, Denny & Darryl = Wu-Banga!
Flex = Feeling this soulfull shit
Conditioning = Hardbody.. Ghost murders this! A-Game
Fly Everything = Great intensity on this one.. Sun God brought the heat!
New World = Funky as fuck.. Eamon sounds cool IMO. Love it!
Soundsop = Different reggaeton type beat, but I fux with it.
Not really feeling rest of them tracks. None of them are wack tho.
Peace
My man i think you need to revisit that album todayQuote:
Originally Posted by ShaDynasty
I remember when it came out i wasnt a huge fan either. Especially the retail version.
But the legit version?
TOP 10
THE SUN
THE FOREST
THE WATCH
THE HILTON
THE JUKS... (very titles creative ghost)
THEODORE
FLOWERS
WALKING THROUGH THE DARKNESS
STREET CHEMISTRY
MAXINE
Says a lot when u eave off the lead single and good times from a top 10. FIRE production by Rza math and alchemist. Imo this album is track for track his best album which says a lot but the concepts are way better than anything he did before or since.
Fishscale gets the props BPW SHOULD get. And i know thats because its produced mostly by doom and dilla ao the hipsters gave it the rub. But those doom esque beats were on bpw first and as much as i like fishscale, it does not stack up, even with the incredible tracks it does have ie. ragu and strap.
Seriously. Album needs a relisten for the production alone. So clean and def ahead of its time.
This album got like 5 joints i fuck with. With that said those joints are best ghost has sounded since wizard of poetry/cuban linx 2 era.
Between 36 seasons, sour soul, lost tapes and this, could prolly form one super solid album but then again i never gave those projects a true listen cuz i knew they werent real “albums” per say.
My top ghost albums
SC (for impact alone)
BPW
IRONMAN
FISHSCALE
PRETTY TONY
WIZARD OF POETRY
12 REASONS
everything else is half and half imo. They def throwaway albums with only 1-5 cuts on them each and a buncha ehhh. But those 6 above are qll 4-5 micers imo.
This album rn im feeling
Me denny and daryl
Conditioning
Pistol smoke
And my fav one is party over here which is throwing me off cuz incoulda swore i hated it in video.
With all that said. This album feels like his realest one since 12 reasons.
Obviously I meant the retail version. The final LP coulda woulda shoulda been good.
The good tracks were:
Maxine
Strawberry
The Forest
The Hilton
Street Chemistry
The rest is basura. I mean WTF is this? A lot of the beats and hooks are pathetic:
Mathematics did a great remix of Strawberry with Deck & RZA added on. Lol I just added the official video only to find that Mathematics had been forced to pull a Flowers style remake with his Strawberry remix:
These fucking sample remakes... lol. They need to hire Chucky Thompson or somebody else who actually knows how to pull these replayed samples off.
Basura?Quote:
Originally Posted by ShaDynasty
ghostshowers is definition of basura. Tush on ptone was basura. Them other tracks tho....
Theodore beat is dumb classic. U wilding. BPW is such a rich fun album.
With that said the retail dont even exist to me. Something indo with all wu albums with a ton of cut songs ie. CL2
First listen 3.5/5 This album is somewhere between BDR and Apollo Kids. Apollo Kids being the best of the three
As far as Pretty Toney and BPW, they're both equally dope albums in my opinion but both fall behind Fishscale.
Don't sleep on 36 seasons and More Fish
You might have seen this already as its a year old, but I just stumbled across one of the best GFK interviews I've seen.
https://youtu.be/jOad6DNuFzs
You might have seen this already as its a year old, but I just stumbled across one of the best GFK interviews I've seen.
https://youtu.be/jOad6DNuFzs
You might have seen this already as its a year old, but I just stumbled across one of the best GFK (Dennis Coles) interviews I've seen.
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Originally Posted by ShaDynasty
Bruh that Theodore shit goes bat shit. Idk what you're talking about. Maybe I read your post wrong
There's no accounting for taste...
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Originally Posted by Don Universo
we think alike, Fishscale is my third favorite Ghost album. You already know the first two lol.
Anyone think me,Denny, and Darryl was a meth track with ghost and Cappa added? The title and meths verse doesn’t match the others seems pasted
I had suggested earlier in the thread that this may have originally been a Meth song because he is the ME in "Me, Denny and Darryl," but I have to assume all 3 were always meant to be on the track together. The title comes from Meth's lyric were he literally says, "Me, Denny and Darryl."Quote:
Originally Posted by human torch
I agree, Ghost sounds renewed.Quote:
Originally Posted by MikeAll
Already bored of this LP, not that great. Deck's lp though def still playing.
Finally gave this a listen and I'd say this is better than anything that he's dropped since More Fish. Think these are old rhymes or ghost written? He sounds fresh
definitely filled it with songs that were not going to make the next clan lp, an appetizer of sorts, loving this shit though, about to go cop the physical at 9, word is bond