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More details are coming to light. It turns out the killer had asked some pupils in advance to point out the teacher. I imagine these pupils will be questioned too. there's gonna be a big difference between the question 'is that history teacher X?' and 'is that the pig that showed the Muhammed cartoons from Charlie Hebdo?' these pupils better get their answers right ...

By now 9 people have been arrested. All the new details point at a well prepared plan of attack. It seemed like a lone wolf thing but seeing as how many people are being questioned and then arrested it doesn't look like it was just the one guy who planned it out.

These guys really are stupid savages. Fine you want to defend your religion but these people think they can say and do anything in justification of that?

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These guys really are stupid savages. Fine you want to defend your religion but these people think they can say and do anything in justification of that?

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An extremist is an extremist whether it’s a juhadist, an antifa or whatever. They think anything they do is justified and they make up the rules for their justifications. And they constantly change.

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These guys really are stupid savages. Fine you want to defend your religion but these people think they can say and do anything in justification of that?

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What we are seeing today though is people comfortably without hesitation resorting to extreme violence. Remember the days where someone would just shoot a political opponent. The left wing-Right Win battles throughout Europe in the 60's & 70's. At worst you would have a car bomb. Now though cutting off heads is normal.

I mean look at the Armenia-Azeribaijan war. The shit being posted online is extreme. Azeri drones bombing soldiers and you got limbs flying all over the place. Armenians skinning the face off dead Azeri soldiers. People watch this and you got this odd twitter war where they are ecstatic and urge for more. Both sides. This isn't a muslims bad, christians good thing. Give them the environment and it don't matter if your a christian or a muslim. A piece of shit is a piece of shit.

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This isn't a muslims bad, christians good thing. Give them the environment and it don't matter if your a christian or a muslim. A piece of shit is a piece of shit.

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This type of extreme violence has always happened with extremists, but you just see it a lot more in the information age.

That's true about muslims and christians, however what people see is a lot more muslims doing this kind of retarded shit than christians. You won't convince the average person to see the big picture because they aren't interested.

Tens of thousands of French demonstrated in the streets today because of the murder. Looks like most people wore facemasks. France is deep in the second COVI wave right now.

In the beheading of the French history teacher who showed cartoons of Muhammed when he discussed freedom of the press, the enquiry has shown that pupils of the school where he worked pointed him out to the murderer for money. I have to say I'm extra disgusted right now.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-54598546

Meanwhile in Finland ...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...155.html%3famp

https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram...33&oe=5FBA49DC

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Looks like Macron has closed over 70 mosques

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Macron's ratings are pretty low so he is going for the whole French patriot thing in a bid to get re-elected. That's why he has also taken a very pro-Europe stance. For example he is being 'tough' regarding the Brexit negotiations. It's just posturing though as he also takes a very soft stance towards Russia.

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Meanwhile in Finland ...

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ind...155.html%3famp

https://scontent-bru2-1.cdninstagram...33&oe=5FBA49DC

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What a debate for a country to have, I guess nothing happens in Finland.

I can't imagine her meeting up with Trump or all the other old political goons at a NATO meeting.

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What a debate for a country to have, I guess nothing happens in Finland.

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First world problems indeed.


The pupil(s) who pointed out the history teacher in France netted $355. I guess killing comes cheap these days.

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Lol Jesus.

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https://legalinsurrection.com/2020/1...chool-teacher/

Is there a mug shot of this guy yet?

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That article is interesting. Linking the incident to Hamas is random when there are plenty radical groups more active in Europe. Linking to Hamas though makes this 100% political and plays to the Saudi narrative in the current Middle Eastern Proxy War.

^^wow, they're not playing around, damn

Erdogan is using Macron's closing of mosques to his own political advantage with the 'check your mental health, Macron' cries and his demand that Muslims boycot French products. his demand has been heard and followed in quite a few countries with large Muslim populations. which of course doesn't mean all Muslims in those countries are taking part in the boycot. anyway, this adds to Erdogan's image of righteous Muslim who stands up for Muslims worldwide. nothing wrong with that exactly, apart from me doubting Erdogan is doing this for religious reasons, moreso for political gain at home and abroad I think. btw Erdogan is not the only one making this boycot demand

Erdogan doesn't (want to) make a distinction between Macron coming down on Muslim extremists / terrorists (they are called Islamists round here but I don't know if that's an international term tbh) and Macron supposedly having it in for Muslims in general

a closer look at the mosques Macron had closed down is probably in order to see just if he pinned down the 'right' mosques to close. I was unable to find a list of mosques that were shut down nor did I find a list of criteria used by the government online. I had a look in French too, but still no luck. I'd like to find out though ...

Eurdogan’s a punk who thinks he’s reviving the glory days of the Khalif and the Ottoman Empire lol

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The military in Belarus are shooting tank shells at the protest crowds

https://twitter.com/disclosetv/statu...36826595856384

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Oh it’s coming...

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a cease fire has been reached between Armenia and Azerbaijan

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https://www.theonion.com/armenia-aze...-ce-1845484791

lol pretty much

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Eurdogan’s a punk who thinks he’s reviving the glory days of the Khalif and the Ottoman Empire lol

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Charlie Hebdo, the French satire magazine, has published a cartoon in response to Erdogan calling out Macron and the boycott of French products

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElV7lPaX...g&name=900x900

Honestly Charlie Hebdo never clicked with me. Their cartoons are not funny and they hammer the message home really bluntly.

Sure freedom of the press and all that, I definitely believe in that, but these guys hardly bring any food for thought to the table.

So you've got Erdogan looking at a muslim woman's naked behind here, saying 'Oh it's the prophet'. Funny? No. Contributing to the discussion? No. Giving Erdogan a run for his money? No. Jeopardizing Erdogan's position of power within the Muslim community? Hell no. So what have you achieved? Nothing. The right to laugh at anybody and over anything? Sure, there's that. That's a really low bar to set though.

If anything Charlie Hebdo should have UPPED their game after they were attacked. OK kinda hard when half the employees were shot to pieces but you know what I mean. This is one of those cases where a person or a group is important as a symbol because of the idea they represent but the actual content they provide is subpar.

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Charlie Hebdo, the French satire magazine, has published a cartoon in response to Erdogan calling out Macron and the boycot of French products

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ElV7lPaX...g&name=900x900

Honestly Charlie Hebdo never clicked with me. Their cartoons are not funny and they hammer the message home really bluntly.

Sure freedom of the press and all that, I definitely believe in that, but these guys hardly bring any food for thought to the table.

So you've got Erdogan looking at a muslim woman's naked behind here, saying 'Oh it's the prophet'. Funny? No. Contributing to the discussion? No. Giving Erdogan a run for his money? No. Jeopardizing Erdogan's position of power within the Muslim community? Hell no. So what have you achieved? Nothing. The right to laugh at anybody and over anything? Sure, there's that. That's a really low bar to set though.

If anything Charlie Hebdo should have UPPED their game after they were attacked. OK kinda hard when half the employees were shot to pieces but you know what I mean. This is one of those cases where a person or a group is important as a symbol because of the idea they represent but the actual content they provide is subpar.

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This is super dangerous and it pisses me off not because they mock Erdogan but Erdogan is a guy who gained so much popularity in Turkey thanks to being the oppressed. He uses it as a weapon and well the French have just handed him a nuclear bomb. Turks are just sighing at Charlie Hebdo because they are giving him the ammo to use in domestic politics. In polls for the first time in 20 years Erdogan's ratings is below 30%. For some reason the Europeans are doing everything they can to push that back up. He feeds of the 'us against the world' narration. Whenever there's an election in Turkey Erdogan picks one country, picks a fight with them and consolidates his own support thanks to that. After elections all go back to normal. Like Israel, supposedly shits bad right? But since Erdogan broke ties diplomatically, economically trade between the two has tripled. Now European nations kinda woke up to this and Germany stays quiet in order not to give him political ammo but Macron took the bait. Erdogan has ramped up the rhetoric because he is trying to bait sanctions as well. He wants the EU and US to sanction Turkey in some manner. He knows the sanctions will be minimal but he just wants to say "look the economy ain't bad because of me and my useless son in law but exterior nations attacking us". That's his plan.

There are 1 million Turks in France to, half the imams in mosques across France are Turkish. That's one reason why Erdogan lashed out at Macron's supposed crackdown on mosques. Turkey has began using mosques and imams as a source to gather intelligence on Turks in Europe. I'm not sure but these imams are appointed by Turkish religious affairs. That might not be the case in France but it is in Germany and the UK for example.

This puts a bigger target on the back of Charlie Hebdo. I won't be surprised if right-wing Turkish mafias in Europe go after them.

The whole boycott of France is fucking dumb for the President himself to call for it is worse. This isn't just Erdogan talk, the guys who advise him and his son-in law who is number 2 are fucking stupid people. Erdogan got rid of all the intelligent people around him because they were at times outshining him. What's worse is Saudi Arabia and other Arab countries under Saudi pressure are boycotting Turkish products. Saudi Arabia even telling their citizens to sell their property in Turkey. So for someone who bites at anyone who does anything against Turkey, Erdogan and his government hasn't said shit about the Arab boycott because they are Arab lovers.

A good example of their mentality is the Coronavirus response. The ministry of health said last week that Istanbul is the epicentre in Turkey and shits bad which is normal as it's a city of 20million now. However they do not tell the Mayor of Istanbul, the guy who runs the city how many cases are present in his city. They had a meeting about the cases in the city, the minister of health and all government appointed officials like the governer and police officials attended. They are talking about Istanbul but they didn't call the fucking elected mayor of the city to this crucial meeting. That's how ludicrous and spiteful the ruling party in Turkey is and that's why they will milk this Charlie Hebdo thing as much as they can.

Shits weird over there. France seems like a mess.

Hal, fill me in. What’s the deal with France?

France as a nation has had a difficult relationship with religion throughout its history. A sense of the importance of and the 'law' of separating the body of power (back then a king) from the meddling of the pope in Rom has evolved, over the centuries, into France being very strict on religion, moreso since the 1980s on the rise of extremist forms of islam in France.


Here's a historical rundown, with the most relevant parts being the beginning and ending. (The stuff in between provides examples like the status of religion during the French Revolution and the Empire of Napoleon)


https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.ins...rd-grasp%3famp

as you can read above this concept is known as 'laïcité' in France and is very dear to politicians and to most people. However, since laïcité in France is much stricter than communitarianism in other countries, France often finds itself in a very difficult position when dealing with the renewed interest in (Muslim) religion.


Maybe the Charlie Hebdo cartoons are examples of the French trying to defend their laïcité and going in overdrive since they are overwhelmed by the expansion of (extremist) Muslim beliefs in France

Btw it's interesting to see how leaders of nations tried to get out of the pope's chokehold in history. On the one hand you've got Henry VIII in England who started his own religion. Then there was Philip IV of France (mentioned in the link above) who relegated the Pope's influence to JUST religion, not the running of the state. Opposite solutions with the same goal.

Hanzo, very interesting analysis once again. Why, do you think, are the Saudis and their allies really boycotting Turkey?

This enlightened me somewhat. (I wasn't up to speed with the current situation.)

https://www.nordicmonitor.com/2020/1...turkish-goods/

Especially the last few paragraphs were of interest to me.

But would you say, in general, that nations like Saudi Arabia and Turkey are fighting for Muslim supremacy within the global Muslim community?

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Hanzo, very interesting analysis once again. Why, do you think, are the Saudis and their allies really boycotting Turkey?

This enlightened me somewhat. (I wasn't up to speed with the current situation.)

https://www.nordicmonitor.com/2020/1...turkish-goods/

Especially the last few paragraphs were of interest to me.

But would you say, in general, that nations like Saudi Arabia and Turkey are fighting for Muslim supremacy within the global Muslim community?

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First of all that NordicMonitor site is run by Gulenists. It posted various leaked documents which were stolen by them while they ran shit in Turkey. They are so fucking slimy it's unbelievable. The sites created by a guy named Abdullah Bozkurt who was the head of Gulen's number one newspaper back in the day.

As for the issue. The Saudi-Turkey relationship has always been sour. Let us not forget that Wahhabism was born out of rebellion against the Ottoman Sultan and since then Turks have always looked on Saudi's as traitors.

However Saudi cash was funnelling into Erdogan's party the AKP for the past 20 years. His sons and daughters have charities and the former Saudi King donated like $400m to just one of them.

The beef starts with Erdogan being a proponent of political Islam and particularly the Muslim brotherhood. The gulf states obviously see this as a threat to their existence because political islam rejects monarchies. So when they saw that Erdogan among Arabs was the most popular Muslim leader it was a cause for concern.

Then the Qatar issue. The Saudi's tried to overrun Qatar, blockaded them and would have invaded. Turkey quickly intervened and sent troops to Qatar, in essence saving the Qataris from their gulf neighbours and ensuring that the Saudi's don't touch them. There's a Turkish military base in Qatar now. You had the issue in Libya, the Saudi-UAE backed Haftar was taking the capital Tripoli. Turkey sent in some guns and drones and Haftar had to retreat. Now Turkey is building a full on operational military airbase in Libya, it's foothold in the country got much stronger. Did Erdogan go in their to support an islamist leader? well on paper yes but the truth is Turkish companies had billion dollar contracts in Libya during the Ghadaffi era. The Tripoli government said they would honour these contracts which resulted in Turkey giving it's full support to them.

Then there's the case of Jamal Khasoggi's death the Washington Post journalist the Saudi's chopped up in Saudi Arabia's Istanbul consulate. The Saudi's thought nobody would know as there was no evidence but it was clear that Turkish intelligence was listening into the Saudi consulate so they had full audio of the Saudi's murdering Khashoggi and they handed this to the CIA, which everyone is now using as a tool to blackmail the Crown Prince. Erdogan isn't the one pressing this issue though, it's other Islamists who are aligned to him and in order not to upset them he hasn't stopped them but at the same time he hasn't lashed out at Saudi Arabia. The Saudi's have been way more vocal about the issue regarding Turkey, to this date no Turkish ministry has said anything anti-Saudi.

It's geopolitics at the end of the day. The Saudi's and UAE have gone full blown anti-Turkey. They even offered Pakistan money so they stopped airing a popular Turkish TV series. To counter the power of Turkish TV series's they spent like $40m on an Arab made series showing the Arab's fighting the evil Ottomans but it flopped. Now they are using their wealth to force other Arab states to boycott & take an anti-Turkish stance. This is also a reason why these states are forming ties with Israel now in order to get Washington on their side against Turkey.

The Saudi's use their wealth to flex their muslim muscle, Turkey-Erdogan is using his tough stance against Israel and the West to bolster his image as the voice of Muslims. It is a fight for muslim supremacy in a way but it's more to do with the Saudi's and other gulf states being scared that an aggressive Turkey is much more of a threat than Iran and Israel because a Sunni Muslim power can manipulate Arab public opinion more than Iran ever could.

for people reading along who, like me, could do with an overview of Sunni and Shia Muslims, this is a general article I read just after reading Hanzo's explanation.


https://www.businessinsider.com/the-...d%20on%20earth


the article dates back to 2015 so some of the references (the 2015 Hajj, the wars in Iraq and Syria) should be seen in that context

I am currently reading the following article, which dives more into the historical and theological differences between both groups. a bit more in depth than the previous article. the ending of the article explains how this difference plays out in some geopolitical conflicts


https://www.nytimes.com/2016/01/04/w...am-differ.html

as an outsider I cannot vouch for the information in these articles. everybody feel free to add on or correct where necessary

That's one of the most unexpected Earthquakes. All the experts said a max Earthquake in that region would be 4.6, now you get a 7.0.

In a country that doesn't skimp off building materials or doesn't have an apartment fetish not much damage would be done. Izmir is a city of 4million, it's packed, it's dense and the buildings are old. 17 buildings have collapsed and these are apartment blocks with 40 or so apartments each.

Some blocks have just crushed the bottom floors cause what they do in Turkey is the bottom of the blocks would be a shop of some sort. One had a supermarket at the bottom. To open up space they cut the pillars of the building. So you have a huge apartment block whose main constructional pillars have been purposefully removed at the bottom. The local authorities turn a blind eye or don't even know about it.

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That's one of the most unexpected Earthquakes. All the experts said a max Earthquake in that region would be 4.6, now you get a 7.0.

In a country that doesn't skimp off building materials or doesn't have an apartment fetish not much damage would be done. Izmir is a city of 4million, it's packed, it's dense and the buildings are old. 17 buildings have collapsed and these are apartment blocks with 40 or so apartments each.

Some blocks have just crushed the bottom floors cause what they do in Turkey is the bottom of the blocks would be a shop of some sort. One had a supermarket at the bottom. To open up space they cut the pillars of the building. So you have a huge apartment block whose main constructional pillars have been purposefully removed at the bottom. The local authorities turn a blind eye or don't even know about it.

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From everything you post Turkey seems like an awful place.

A Greek-orthodox priest was shot twice in Lyon, France today as he was closing his church. He is in critical condition. The assailant is still at large. Looks like this violence is not gonna end anytime soon.

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A Greek-orthodox priest was shot twice in Lyon, France today as he was closing his church. He is in critical condition. The assailant is still at large. Looks like this violence is not gonna end anytime soon.

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French news reporting it was a personal dispute, the attacker being Greek himself.



https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...addin-lamp-con

Best news of the day. Conmen in India sell a genie lamp and even summoned one to impress the buyer.

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French news reporting it was a personal dispute, the attacker being Greek himself.

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thank you for the update. clearly I was jumping to conclusions

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...addin-lamp-con

Best news of the day. Conmen in India sell a genie lamp and even summoned one to impress the buyer.

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lol foolproof plan

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https://mobile.twitter.com/InfosFran...92596629413888

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the article below (in French) states it was a confrontation between two rival criminal gangs. kalashnikovs etc were used, heavy ammo. the report states one gang member was injured but there are rumors saying he got himself to hospital so it wasn't life threatening

https://www.midilibre.fr/2020/11/01/...de-9176340.php

this event did not reach national media (Belgium) here. thanks for posting it

HANZO, that was an excellent read.

So Haftar is backed by both Saudis and Russia?

Whatever happened to Saif Ghadaffi ?

Any of you euro-peens have a theory on why there's a second/third wave of corona with the coming wave of re-lock downs. In the US they would have you believe the situation was taken more seriously than in the US. I personally doubt that, but idk. I think Europe's population density and relative close proximity culture plays a roll but I think there are wider implications on whether anywhere will ever 'go back to normal'

I recently read on DW that Belgium and the Netherlands are running out of hospital space.

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HANZO, that was an excellent read.

So Haftar is backed by both Saudis and Russia?

Whatever happened to Saif Ghadaffi ?

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Haftar is backed by mainly the UAE, then comes Russian support, the Saudi's aren't that active but are obviously on Haftar's side as they see Sarraj in Tripoli as Muslim brotherhood. The UAE is the main source of cash and weapons to Haftar though. Russian influence is more limited, they send mercenaries but that mercenary group backed out half way in the fight which weakened Haftar and allowed the Tripoli government to gain back a chunk of territory lost.

They said Saif Ghadaffi would be a good alternative to Tripoli and Haftar but no country really wants to back him. At the moment there's a ceasefire and both sides are waiting for the US elections and to see which side the US picks.

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Any of you euro-peens have a theory on why there's a second/third wave of corona with the coming wave of re-lock downs. In the US they would have you believe the situation was taken more seriously than in the US. I personally doubt that, but idk. I think Europe's population density and relative close proximity culture plays a roll but I think there are wider implications on whether anywhere will ever 'go back to normal'

I recently read on DW that Belgium and the Netherlands are running out of hospital space.

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The main reason for the second wave hitting hard is the schools reopening. 12-18 year olds just don't give a shit and they have been the main source of the virus spreading. The situation was taken more seriously in German speaking countries but the Latin speakers and the English don't care that much. Life is pretty much normal in London apart from the lack of central London office workers. The government not alone encouraged but paid people to eat at restaurants and pubs which scientists have reported had a significant impact on the virus spreading.

Also the poorer errors have seen the virus spread more. People need to work and those who are self-employed for example don't get much help from the government. So poorer areas in Europe have been hit harder. The virus is more prominent in the poorer north of England than it is the south.

I remember when it first became a thing and the UK said they were going to just act normal and develop herd immunity. Which sounded like something someone who's worldview is partly developed by memes (and starts sentences with 'well actually') would say. I think it's safe to assume it's being handled disastrously there from the news coming out.

I can confidently bet that next to nobody is going to take their dumb ass vaccine either outside of Ironman and people that did theatre in college. Even if it's the saving grace, the US government (and likely many gov. in europe) have been playing games with their own credibility and political capital.

Like Hanzo said, schools reopening. Also, by July a lot of borders had reopened. European tourists flew to other European countries. It helped spread COVID again. Tourists returning by mid to end August + schools reopening in September = the perfect storm

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The main reason for the second wave hitting hard is the schools reopening. 12-18 year olds just don't give a shit and they have been the main source of the virus spreading. The situation was taken more seriously in German speaking countries but the Latin speakers and the English don't care that much. Life is pretty much normal in London apart from the lack of central London office workers. The government not alone encouraged but paid people to eat at restaurants and pubs which scientists have reported had a significant impact on the virus spreading.

Also the poorer errors have seen the virus spread more. People need to work and those who are self-employed for example don't get much help from the government. So poorer areas in Europe have been hit harder. The virus is more prominent in the poorer north of England than it is the south.

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Was the north or south hit harder during the first wave?

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Was the north or south hit harder during the first wave?

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The North was harder hit, but naturally since London is much larger the numbers during the peak in London where also very high. However what happened was the numbers in London dwindled and by July had gotten to a point where the government could reopen. So in July England came out of lockdown, thing was the virus was still spreading in the North. The government looked at data in London and quickly came out of lockdown before the North could even see the virus rate flatline. This has caused pretty much chaos in hospitals across the North and most are now overloaded with Covid patients.

That's why when the government asked Manchester to semi-lockdown the Mayor openly rebelled against the government. Demanding they give them adequate financial support. The government told him to fuck off and forced a semi-lockdown. This led to Northerners blaming the government of being London-centric, which they are. They are only going into lockdown now as numbers in London are rising.

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Like Hanzo said, schools reopening. Also, by July a lot of borders had reopened. European tourists flew to other European countries. It helped spread COVID again. Tourists returning by mid to end August + schools reopening in September = the perfect storm

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We're on a second wave in Texas. When they reopened everyone eagerly ran to restaurants; myself included. I have to work from home and it's led to excessive restaurant patronage. Every time I went shit was damn near full lol. People have started taking it more seriously during the second wave, and schools are all virtual. Lots of naked deflated looking parents on camera and parent to teacher fights as a result.

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The North was harder hit, but naturally since London is much larger the numbers during the peak in London where also very high. However what happened was the numbers in London dwindled and by July had gotten to a point where the government could reopen. So in July England came out of lockdown, thing was the virus was still spreading in the North. The government looked at data in London and quickly came out of lockdown before the North could even see the virus rate flatline. This has caused pretty much chaos in hospitals across the North and most are now overloaded with Covid patients.

That's why when the government asked Manchester to semi-lockdown the Mayor openly rebelled against the government. Demanding they give them adequate financial support. The government told him to fuck off and forced a semi-lockdown. This led to Northerners blaming the government of being London-centric, which they are. They are only going into lockdown now as numbers in London are rising.

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Yea we’re seeing that somewhat here with the less dense states seeing higher numbers. I think I don’t know, everyone has different numbers. But states can mandate what happens individually, and in some states the governor leaves it up to local health departments.

I have a friend up in Manchester, he said it was pretty bad. Shutting down for a month he told me.

meanwhile in the Netherlands earlier today ...

https://s.hdnux.com/photos/01/15/02/.../3/920x920.jpg

https://i.guim.co.uk/img/media/7fbcd...ormat&fit=max&

https://www.theguardian.com/world/20...ing-into-water

I had a lung infection in July, spent 3 days in hospital without being diagnosed with Corona, and then I spent 10 days chilling at home. Two neg test I got, and I think that diagnose methods fail globally.

Aside from having mild lung problems, I swear a common flue from February was harder.


Yes, re-lockdowns are on their way. We have months and months till warm weather....