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yea man.Quote:
Originally Posted by JZA/Jordon
for the newer guys here , just know this conversation has been never ending for ten years now. So somenof us have moved on from the drama surrounding it.
i hope you all hear it. I want to hear it again.
Oh I’m fully aware. I am new here, yesterday was my first time posting, but I’ve been following the site since it started 20+ years ago. If you read my original post it should make sense. Definitely not here for the drama, just trying to add on to more of who’s actually on the album rather than everything that has happened and continues to happen since it was sold. Peace.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForensikZ
Wu Corp folks be wild yo.
Agreed! Actually just got off a 3+ hour phone call with Ringz. I guess I did have information that nobody else has. Which was the point of starting this thread, to ask the creator of it for permission to reveal it. We had a great discussion, learned a lot, heard a ton that you guys wouldn’t believe even if I told you. OUATIS, and Non OUATIS stuff. Mind blowing
Is it the common knowledge stuff we know about the tracklist and guest people or?
If I'm not mistaken, wasn't "Flowers Blossoming" originally called 'Plum Blossom' and featured Scientific Shabazz?? Not sure if Plum Blossom ended up on OUATIS, or was meant for a Cilva/STD project.
I could be misremembering though, so pls correct me.
No, not common knowledge stuff at all. I’ll add on later when I’m not half asleep. I will say this though, I’m glad I got to recommend a “Killaz & Assassinz” track with Ghost, Sin, Masta, Priest, 60, Shogun, and Killa Bamz. Haha! It was a great building session. He’s a patient humble brother.
During our 3+ hour phone convo, I would basically read him through the list that I have and he would proceed to find said track on his files and play me the song, the WHOLE song in some cases. Then talk about the track for 5/10 minutes then on to the next. Half the call was music the other half was building. I felt like I heard more than the listening sessions, but Ringz would have to confirm that. But all the non OUATIS stuff?!….sonically amazing. Unreleased Diggaz, RZA, Sunz, Dirty, Ghost, La…and rare Meth gems from the flood era.
I’ll add on more later. Peace
I’m not gonna be sharing the emcee tracklist that I have, but Ringz did confirm that it is indeed all correct. He played me almost every song on the album, some in full, others just parts. The ones he didn’t play he gave me the creative process behind the track. For example; track 7.) 99 Cycling Swords (99 Supreme) is a DOPE concept track and the emcee lineup on that one is fuckin insane. Dream team lineup.
But all the Non OUATIS stuff had me floored. The amount of dedication and detail this man puts into his work is inspiring. While OUATIS may never be released, the stuff that Ringz IS trying to get released is just as special in my opinion. And he’s pushing to make it happen.
A Meth song intended for Tical, in full, produced by RZA, lost in the flood, was one of my personal highlights. Carlos Bess unearthed it for Ringz. That was sonically sick.
Sounds amazing honestly, hopefully it comes to fruition (mentioned in another thread...I'm one "them" stuck in the past lol)
Peace hiphopjunky. I’ve been waiting for someone who actually cares about the music(not the gimmicks) to build with. If you read my posts on this thread, you’ll get a better understanding of what I was trying to reveal. Ringz didn’t necessarily say I “couldn’t” share the emcee lineups, but he said Pleasr would not be happy about it.
I was honestly shocked when Ringz reached out. He called and we talked about everything under the Wu umbrella. Even though I’m around the same age as Ringz, and been following them since I was 12, he revealed a lot I didn’t know.
Hopefully he’s trying to release the project with LA the Darkman. I almost wanna say that I want that to happen more than a new Wu albumQuote:
Originally Posted by Teejay
Ringz played me a Là joint last night featuring RZA, U-God and Deck. Not on OUATIS. Won’t reveal the track name or concept, but it’s bananas. PeaceQuote:
Originally Posted by 3rdEyeVizion
Out of respect for the creator, I want to correct what I wrote above. It was a whirlwind of songs and information, I wrote the emcees down wrong in my notebook last night while on the phone.
It is in fact a Là song, but featuring U-God, Dirty with RZA and Cappa doing some background vocals, Blue Raspberry on singing vocals. It’s not on Once Upon…..but it still may be coming. Là sounded ANGRY. Haha! Support it if it gets released
Yes i didnt want to mention this because we talked about it as well but dont remember if he said not to mention. But since you have.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teejay
i believe its the hold this planet beat that bazz/priest did that leaked in the wuki pack
he mentioned it to me and then i heard a piece at the private session i believe
Peace ForensikZ. I know of the Wuki pack, but would have to hear it again, it’s been ages.
As we were speaking and listening last night he said I could comment on anything I was hearing. Don’t want to reveal too much though, it’s not really my place. I’m confident some of that stuff will see the light of day though.
Yea bro all good.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teejay
heres rhe link
https://youtu.be/hc7UyH7qZ3Y?feature=shared
Yup, that’s it. I was always under the impression that 4th did that beat, mainly cuz of Priest’s and Bazz’s involvement.Quote:
Originally Posted by ForensikZ
What track is that?Quote:
Originally Posted by Teejay
It’s not an actual song that exists, just one I’ve always wanted to see happen since like ‘98. Haha!Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaolinmonk
Just a concept track, all the Killa’s and Assassins of the Wu camp on one track. No chorus, PYN style. I mentioned it to Ringz, sorta as a joke….but I wouldn’t be mad if he stole my idea. Haha!
Ahh got ya, I was thinking like how did I miss such a great posse line-up ;)
No, no. Definitely not a real track, just an idea that’s been in my head forever. Similar to that Clocks & Kings song off 60’s album. Just a play on words/names. It’d be dope though.
Everything else I mentioned in this thread is definitely real, even if it’s hard to believe.
you still haven’t taken up the invite I gave you.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shaolinmonk
If you live close enough, you’d be a fool to pass this up Monk.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
Just to be clear, this isn’t a song on OUATIS, TUATIS, or any project at all. It doesn’t exist. It was simply just an idea of mine.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teejay
Is common knowledge TUATIS?
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Originally Posted by Cilvaringz
Peace Tarik! hollereer if you are in the Dutches later this month and have some time left. I would also love to hear some of the stories and music you've been working on!
Maybe not “common” knowledge. Especially to anyone that hasn’t been paying attention. But certainly not confidential knowledge, seeing as he’s already mentioned it here himself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
Being a Wu fan is fun in 2024.. lets be thankful for that!
No doubt bro. I see what what you were trying to do (I've been catching up) - and I'm sure Ringz appreciates the fact you checked before posting (seems like it resulted in a dope conversation too 😀)Quote:
Originally Posted by Teejay
Respect. Like I said I’ve been following this site as a Wu news feed(and trashy drama sometimes, Haha) for like twenty years. Just started posting last week cuz of the topic of this thread. So I’ve been seeing how you and others move on here. Focusing on building with the positive corpers.Quote:
Originally Posted by hiphopjunky
Shit I heard was banging.Quote:
Originally Posted by Teejay
dmQuote:
Originally Posted by spitfire
That La track alone is better than anything I’ve heard in a looooong time. I really hope, at the very least, that one particular song reaches the real fans.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jet Set
This is the list of features I got from the original post back in march 2014.
DISC 1:
01: Intro w/ Raekwon The Chef
02: Inspectah Deck, Killah Priest, Killa Sin, Streetlife & Method Man
03: Ghostface Killah, Shabazz The Disciple, Killa Sin, Killah Priest, Raekwon The Chef & U-God (Chorus) [prod by Cilvaringz]
04: Skit - Part I [Interlude] RZA w/ Ghostface Killah, Killa Sin, Raekwon The Chef & U-God (Background Vocals)
05: Ghostface Killah, La The Darkman, 12 O'Clock, Killa Sin & Raekwon The Chef
06: U-God (Solo)
07: Method Man, Redman, Raekwon The Chef, Inspectah Deck, U-God & Masta Killa
08: "The Weeping Tiger" w/ Inspectah Deck & Raekwon The Chef [prod by RZA]
09: Masta Killa, Killah Priest & Shyheim
10: GZA/Genius, Inspectah Deck & Raekwon The Chef (Chorus)
11: Poppa Wu, Inspectah Deck, Killa Sin & Shabazz The Disciple
12: RZA & U-God
13: Skit - Part II [Interlude] RZA w/ T.B.A.
14: Interlude - Movie
15: "In The Name Of Allah" w/ Masta Killa, Killah Priest, RZA, Cilvaringz & Shabazz The Disciple (Chorus) [prod by RZA & Cilvaringz]
16: "Rainy Dayz Part II" w/ Ghostface Killah & Raekwon The Chef
DISC 2:
01: Intro w/ Inspectah Deck & Raekwon The Chef
02: Ol' Dirty Bastard, Shabazz The Disciple, Prodigal Sunn, 12 O'Clock & Zoo Keeper
03: Cappadonna (Short Solo) & Vanessa Liftig (Chorus)
04: Shabazz The Disciple, Prodigal Sunn, Beretta 9, Killa Sin & U-God
05: U-God (Solo) & Poppa Wu
06: Raekwon The Chef, RZA, U-God & Killah Priest (Outro)
07: Raekwon The Chef, Masta Killa & Method Man
08: RZA, Cappadonna, 12 O'Clock & Poppa Wu
09: Ghostface Killah, Raekwon The Chef & Tekitha
10: Inspectah Deck, Ghostface Killah, Cappadonna, Killah Priest & Shabazz The Disciple
11: RZA (Solo) w/ Raekwon The Chef & Killah Priest (Intro & Background Vocals)
12: "Diary Of A Mad Woman" w/ Frukwan, RZA, Featherz & Tekitha (Chorus) w/ Shabazz The Disciple & Killah Priest (Intro)
13: Shabazz The Disciple & Killah Priest
14: Outro - Movie
15: Instrumental Outro
That’s everything I had as well, and thought it was all correct….until I spoke with Ringz. There’s some errors in there. Some minor, some major. Surprised you just cold posted that without confirming first.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jason1980
Since you posted it, I’ll only say number 5 is entirely correct, and it ended up being 99 Cycling Swords (99 Supreme). I’m not commenting on the rest…
I figured why not post it. It was public info posted by Ringz before the single copy announcement.
Same reason I didn’t cold post mine. It’s not correct. False info just gets the fans more upset and confused. And considering what direction Ringz took the album in afterwards, by keeping a mysterious feel around it, even now that I have the CORRECT emcee track list, I’m still not posting that shit. Out of respect