God is not a what - God is a who.Quote:
Originally Posted by LHX
Truth would be the what.
Black is the Original "color" - of man.
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God is not a what - God is a who.Quote:
Originally Posted by LHX
Truth would be the what.
Black is the Original "color" - of man.
what is the difference between 'who' and 'what'?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
Who would refer to a person.
What would refer to a thing.
is the universe a person?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
or a thing?
is the earth a person?
or a thing?
The universe is a thing and the earth is a thing.
Where are we going with this?
i am trying to get to a point where you might see why some people have difficulty understanding that the black man is godQuote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
I already know it's difficult..Quote:
Originally Posted by LHX
It was difficult for me and I'm Black
But, I certainly didn't slander and disrespect the kind soul who brought this knowledge in my direction.
And, if I would have then I woulda expected to get sonned.
did the kind soul who brought the knowledge to you do it over the internet?Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
What is your point?
my point is that different tactics are required for different situationsQuote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
RELIGION is not the making of "divine beings" but of DEMONIC ones.Quote:
DO you take Religion seriously.
I believe that there are Actually divine beings watching us right now.
Ofcourse not...
Well...I don't know how watered down you people need me to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by LHX
The truth is a double edged sword.
I can't change that.
I voted yes...
haaaaaaahahahahaaaaaQuote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
a sword can be swung by a champion or a drunk
if youre sloppy with it
dont get mad at the situation you find yourself in
no need to play innocent
That's just the thing...I'm not mad.Quote:
Originally Posted by LHX
They are...
So who is the one getting cut up with this Truth that I swing like a champion?
point takenQuote:
Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
and well made
I don't known how "mysterious" it is with the Reality that is mainfested right before us.Quote:
Originally Posted by Aqua Luna
But tell us how you specifically KNOW - as you have indicated by your statement above.
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It cannot and will not ever be proven to be so.
I say the fact that there's Order in the way life is maintained here (oxygen, etc) proves you partly wrong (that it "cannot" be proven). Also, since when have you been omniscient to say something will "NEVER be proven"??
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How can it be - when you can't see it to examine it and obtain proof.
The proof rests with the fact that there's a true science called CAUSE and EFFECT. There is no Effect (the universe) without a Cause (a First Cause).
What we see before us in the Universe amounts to an infinite amount MORE of EVIDENCE then you and others of likemind have to offer to prove that there is no God. (a Supreme Power, a Cause)
Civilization you say? Do you mean man, or rather mans civilzation?Quote:
It has been made known that civilization began in Africa,
Because it is ALSO KNOWN that the continents were once CONNECTED before anything called "Africa".
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gondwana
Yes, they were "Black". And they also looked like this according to some.Quote:
the Original people of Africa are Black...this has been proven and can be proven to this day.
http://www.bookinafrica.com/images-p...-6682-MAIN.jpg
Hmmm, let's go by your definition of what society believes to be god for a moment....where do you think that originated from if not in AFRICA?Quote:
Now, if you hold on to that magical, mystical, fairy tale God concept that religion and society teaches the masses
The 'Mystery God' is a trick...and it originated in Europe.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maboya
the region of life that religion is suppose to be taken seriously in is the area of bridging the macro with the micro. a pathway to follow in interactions with fellow people and how to deal with yourself.
me myself it can give me a view point from which a people will come from their thinking and how they act but to base and guide your life on tales ledgends myths and stories of beings that may or not have existed is asinine.
i read that if any of the people who had the visions and heard the voices nowadays they be carted off on a 51/50 - a psychosis from reality.
all religiuon has an element of truth like a thread that has to discerned from the crass that has become enwraped around those said kernels.
is there not a religion of truth or is all religions based on facts as seen after the act reported?
Your comment is at best ambiguous, please add some clarity to it.Quote:
I don't know how "mysterious" it is with the Reality that is mainfested right before us. -- Maboya
That's what they want the masses to believe. -- Moon
Are you Aqua Luna?Quote:
But tell us how you specifically KNOW - as you have indicated by your statement above. -- Maboya
I already have. - Moon
If so, you havn't in the least shown how you KNOW there to be no Creator.
Yes, and there is a degree of ORDER within it effecting us here on earth.Quote:
Oxygen is an atmosphereic gas that can be tested and meausured...
And this indicates something more then just the understanding of how it's percieved to function...which was my point.
But you would have to be "omniscient" to say something will "NEVER be proven".Quote:
I don't have to be omniscient to breathe.
I never said there's anything omniscient about oxygen - I said you are making yourself omniscient claiming something "will never be proven".Quote:
It trasnsforms to water and ice according to the movement of it's molecules...this is all science. There is nothing omniscient about it.
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It cannot and will not ever be proven to be so. -- Moon
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Also, since when have you been omniscient to say something will "NEVER be proven"?? -- Maboya
Then you would have to say this is only your BELIEF - or - are you ready to PROVE that the universe always existed?Quote:
The proof rests with the fact that there's a true science called CAUSE and EFFECT. There is no Effect (the universe) without a Cause (a First Cause). -- Maboya
The universe would be the Cause - your exsistence would be the effect. -- Moon
Please show us anything that wasn't Caused by another thing (Cause and Effect).
This universe of yours is sounding kind of "magical" and "spooky" to be honest.
Are you ready to Prove the "Original Asiatic Black Man" was the Cause that borned the Universe.?? (Effect)Quote:
What we see before us in the Universe amounts to an infinite amount MORE of EVIDENCE then you and others of likemind have to offer to prove that there is no God. (a Supreme Power, a Cause) -- Maboya
I never said that there is no God.
I said that the Origianal Asiatic Blackman is God. -- Moon
The mystery God is the hidden truth that God is actually Black, the "trick" is on those who missed this obvious point. And NO belief or theological system started in Europe. Ever hear of Akhenaton?Quote:
The 'Mystery God' is a trick...and it originated in Europe.
Lies started in Europe...if you equate that to theological beliefs then we have come to a consensus about something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maboya
Which powers would that be? The ones I know of teach there is no Creator.Quote:
he powers that be want you to believe that reality is caused by a mysterygod.
Something more is indicated by the order we see in the universe, in oxygen, etc.Quote:
That is ambiguous^. Understanding the universe is the best way to manifest God.
Or did it magically and mysteriously retain a degree of order by itself? And can you prove that?
Straw man.Quote:
You can never prove that 1 + 2 = 4. NEVER.
Um, yes you are. Saying something will never be proven is saying you possess all knowledge.Quote:
No, Im not
Should I ask NASA if the Asiatic Black man is God as well? Let's be serious. Show and Prove or concede the point.Quote:
Ask NASA
Cause and Effect is not a "belief" - it is true science. Your belief however of Effect (a Universe) wthout a cause is not - and lies within the realm of belief.Quote:
These are YOUR beliefs. I was showing you how fallible they are.
See above. What Order and Cause enabled the Black man to be the Original? Was it your spooky mysterious ever present univerese? Does it possess intelligence?Quote:
I don't have to prove to you your own beliefs about the concepts of God and the creation of the Universe.
According to?Quote:
The mystery God is
Who said that it is not partially seen within the universe we all see - and through the original man?Quote:
the concept of an omnipotent, unseen being
To say "magically" is only your assertion. I say it takes a high degree of science, knowledge, wisdom and understanding. This logic of "magically" originated with the European and not with original people.Quote:
who magically created
What can be seen is Order (you do understand what this implies, yes?) within many key aspects of our existence here, oxygen and gravity being some examples.Quote:
the universe and the weather and can't ever be proven to exsit.
Cause and Effect is also true science (as opposed to the universe magically always existing) - and some people call that Cause "God" which is a European term that took the place of the Hebrew word for POWER which is AHLA - as the Creator (Cause) was understood to be the Power/Energy that Effected (Cause and Effect) the Universe.
Assertion.Quote:
Lies started in Europe...
So have you ever heard of Akhenaton's theological belief system or not? And what does this say of your assertion that the "mystery god" came from Europe?Quote:
if you equate that to theological beliefs then we have come to a consensus about something.
To boring and unproductive...
I'll resign so, if anyone else wants to build -
Please do so.
GOD DID NOT COME FROM ANYWERE EVERYWERE CAME FROM GOD
if there must be an uncaused first cause, what caused god?
i.e. you've been Destroyed.Quote:
To boring and unproductive...
I'll resign so, if anyone else wants to build -
Please do so.
I didn't even waste time reading that book.
how seriously should religion have over the sway of my life with relavency to god holy books prophets and truth via reality facts history and society to which politics and economics are intergrated in the community i reside in - like an institution where people admit themselves to a facility where an experiment is being conducted based on one's conscious. i know people of different faiths who you have to respect for views but the truth has one view - plain as face of day out the clear blue that comes from over yoonder that gets personal like a reflecting mirror of a conscience.
it says what standards to live by. who's the enemy. how to regulate economy. it has a structure of a civilization where big brother watches and get your heaven or hell when die. what good works will ensure big brother is happy and what the rewards are for being obedient or dispespectful.
a bluerprint for a brain scheme that is not fully in right mind so that left off that side of table. like tress and grasses some too wild some to pacifist.
i can live without a building that says worship house to place prayers and offerings, time spent bettering yourself couldn't be worse. - no joke.
this poll is flawd (not intenionally tho) but it nees to be clarified that the atheist takes religion very very seriously..
in many cases more seriously than those who believe in divine deities
GOD ALWAYS HAS AND WILL BE NOTHING MADE GOD BUT GOD MADE EVERYTHING
What Book ?
I'm talking about Maboya's last post.Quote:
Originally Posted by hectis
Some say that the words of a fool are plenty...now I know why they say that.
hectis, she's refering to my reply to her. Moon apparently only wishes to give simple (emphasis on simple) answers without the offering up of any explanations.
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Originally Posted by whitey
http://www.acalltosanity.com/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=20
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Originally Posted by Aqueous Moon
Yes, that is said. But somehow I doubt they meant those in a debate who defend the concept of God.
Here's what else they say in the Bible) about the fool.
Psalm 14:1 [[To the chief Musician, [A Psalm] of David.]] The fool hath said in his heart, [There is] no God. They are corrupt, they have done abominable works, [there is] none that doeth good.
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I'm talking about Maboya's last post.
Some say that the words of a fool are plenty...now I know why they say that.
YEAH I FEEL U IT IS LIKE I TOLD U BEFORE THEY CAN NEVER SAY NO ONE TRYED TO SAVE THEM
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Originally Posted by Maboya
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Originally Posted by Maboya
I HAVE TO DISAGREE WHEN EVER I ASK AM SOMETHING SHE DOSE A GOOD JOB OF EXPLANING IT TO ME
I said it - several times - the Blackman is God.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maboya
The Blackman is - an ancient European term?
god
O.E. god "supreme being, deity," from P.Gmc. *guthan (cf. Du. god, Ger. Gott, O.N. gu›, Goth. gufi), from PIE *ghut- "that which is invoked" (cf. Skt. huta- "invoked," an epithet of Indra), from root *gheu(e)- "to call, invoke." But some trace it to PIE *ghu-to- "poured," from root *gheu- "to pour, pour a libation" (source of Gk. khein "to pour," khoane "funnel" and khymos "juice;" also in the phrase khute gaia "poured earth," referring to a burial mound). "Given the Greek facts, the Germanic form may have referred in the first instance to the spirit immanent in a burial mound" [Watkins]. Not related to good. Originally neut. in Gmc., the gender shifted to masc. after the coming of Christianity. O.E. god was probably closer in sense to L. numen. A better word to translate deus might have been P.Gmc. *ansuz, but this was only used of the highest deities in the Gmc. religion, and not of foreign gods, and it was never used of the Christian God.
i dont believe nothing that i cant see with my eyes and feel that its real.
religion is life lessons, a way to live your life, like hip hop (although its not a good idea to live like some rappers [Claim They] Do). rza agrees if you read the religion part of his manual.
the idea that black man is god is played out for many reasons (black god oppresses black people?)
god is inside you - thats real. anyone can be god
and things like the bible, the quaran, even films and music can help us in our lives.
someone say word