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what happened to the Beggas?
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On The Strenght
what happened to the Beggas?
they still do their thingQuote:
Originally Posted by Erquel
here's their forum, they build with people alot:
http://beggaooh.proboards61.com/
they had an album together fully produced by rza,mathematics and 4th disciple which was shelfed back when wutang records existedQuote:
Originally Posted by The 7th
classic album, in my top ten hip-hop albums ever
best tracks (no order):
97' Mentality
Concrete Jungle
And Justice For All
On The Strength
Where Was Heaven
Never Again
Punishment
Cobra Clutch
... fuck, whole album is a complete classic.
they have to release Vol. III in 2007 or 2008 (like "The Hive" or something..) with songs on the level of Beretta 9's "Heaven & Hell 2005" (CLASSIC, only flaw? Ffeemurda's verse, ihe should have been replaced by Killa Sin:mmmyah: ). Line up would be like this: Wu Generals, Sunz Of Man, Killarmy, Royal Fam, Northstar, Black Knights, Streetlife, La The Darkman, Cappadonna, Shabbazz The Disciple, Bronze, Cilvaringz etc. etc. with Wu Elements production. it would be just:king: IMO
yeah i agree
my fav. is Bastards..its even a hiphop classic as i hear
Word? thats one of the greatest injustice RZA done to us, those albums, Tekitha wisdom body, Black knights and Northstar? my god, that would be classic! maths and 4th were at their best then too,Quote:
Originally Posted by graveyard_shifter
dam dat fuckin sucks. from what i hear on all of these wu forums, theres a shit load of albums from killa beez that have been shelved. that aint right at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by graveyard_shifter
u should support this right here if u like the beggaz. shit is ill http://www.oohwebpages.com/changingclassics1.htmQuote:
Originally Posted by Erquel
NYC Everything? dats on bobby digitals album. u must have them mixed up. its cool. dats another classic as wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Hellspawn
dats weird. i still got dat LP & mine says royal fam. did it get rereleased at some point?Quote:
Originally Posted by the silencer
It's labeled as AIG on mine as well. Mine is the version with the Skits on each track
ABSOLUTE CLASSIC MATERIAL
for real, I listened to this last two years more than to any other Wu album...
the swarm is 100% DOPENESS
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Originally Posted by emperorles
i couldn't agree more, that joint got me feeling cappadonna, after that shit i had to go back to ironman and really listen to his shit, then i understood all his crazy ass slang
"watch how the slang hits you, just like a fat kid".......ooooh that line is dirty, hahaha dude is like kobe with that line and that ball went swish from half court
a dope banger ! ! !
J diller is he dead man ?
slammin album.. some of my fave tracks from it are..
the legacy
execute them..
and justice for all
'97 mentality
siiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiick
Definitely need a 3rd Killa Beez collabo, need to get all the affiliate posses, The Wisemen, Killarmy, Royal Fam, Black Knights (or West Coast Killa Beez), North Star, Two On The Road, Sunz Of Man, Theodore Unit (anyone know why Solomons Child, Kryme Life, DU Lilz & Twiz left?), Ice Water Inc (don't rate them too much though). Maybe some LA The Darkman, Streetlife, Cappa?
Beats by Cilvaringz, Bronze Nazareth, 4th Disciple, Truemaster, Mathematics, Moongod Allah.
Hotness.
Top 10-15 in albums I ever bought. I LOVE this fucking album so much. I bought it the day it was released in tower records. Played the shit so much it got mega scratched after a few years. Bought it again and someone stole it :( Now I can't fucking find it anywhere except e-bay and I don't wanna make an account there for one cd. Imma keep looking. If anyone here wants to let one go I'll pay top dollar for it, used or not.
love hearing this album in the summertime my favorites are execute them,co-defendants,and and justice for all
co-signQuote:
Originally Posted by abasi
So are the beggaz wu-killa beez? I mean they are on "killa beez"-the swarm but I don't ever hear them mentioned.
It's Sunday I'm off work today, so I'll review......
01. Intro
02. Royal Fam - The Legacy
Great opening track by Timbo King, he straight rips this shit. Beat is crazy especially that bass. Lyrics are crazy on here also. His second verse is on some geographical shit that sounds hot. 5/5
03. Sunz Of Man ft. Timbo King - Concrete Jungle
This track got me into Sunz of Man after I heard it on my uncles mixtape. The beat is just crazy Timbo king opens it up nice and short then Prodigal Sunn just destroys it. Hell Razah comes in and spits nice lines back and forth, dropping that knowledge but making it sound hot. "we be the underground childs, mainstream now, sorta like apocalypse Blow Blow" That shit hot. 60 Sec. even comes in and kills the track. "you in the jungle....jungle boogie!" That shit gets me amped, this has to be top 5 on this cd. 5/5
04. Shyheim & Hell Razah - Co-Defendant
I remember when I first copped this cd in 8th Grade and i was listen to this with my mom , we both were like this shit is wack. But this track grew on us like crazy. I love this shit, Shyheim comes in hard the first line " I'm an N.W.A. with a 19 shot Glizzy, I'm more thug than krayzie, layzie, flesh, wish & Bizzy" Straight hard, he went hard the whole track. Hell Razah is crazy on here with his Sunz of Man flow "I role with playa haters, down with mad rappers, out to put the gat to anybody playing actor" hot line. Shyheim ends the track "I'm all about the hundred dolla bills nigga what, if shorty pussy to big I stick it in her but" straight RAW! The beat itself is crazy, I don't even know how Rza came up with this shit. I be zoned out on this track, i wish they let it ride out a lil loner, still a crazy track though..... 5/5
05. Inspectah Deck & Streetlife - S.O.S.
At first this beat wasn't listenable to me but it grew on me like crazy. i think Streetlife came harder than Deck on this one. Don't get me wrong though Deck still spits that heat on here. Streetlife flow on here is crazy on his opening lines. "Flash a Wu Sign to see if my comrades is in here" that's a dope line. 4.5/5
06. Wu-Tang Clan ft. Streetlife - Execute Them
I love this shit right here, Everybody comes hard on here. Hook is hot. Raekwon opens this shit up nice and smooth, his lyrics were getting at their peak around that time. Masta Killa is crazy on here with his memorable verse "Bless him with a c-note, throw him over boat, split his stomach so the body won't float" Crazy..that's my favorite line from that verse. Inspectah Deck is wild, he delivers one of his best verses on this track, it just sound crazy how he just brings it hard, the beat it just crazy itself with the kung-fu sample in da track, that's dope I love that sound in the back too. 5/5
07. A.I.G. - Bronx War Stories
I never really felt this track like that. It grew on me a lil bit. It's a banger nothing more, nothing less. I wasn't really into the beat like that IDK what it was. The lyrics on here are Raw though, I know Darkim is on the track I forgot the other guys name... 4/5
08. RZA ft. Method Man & Killarmy - And Justice For All
This shit took a long time to grow on a nigga, Islord delivers one of the worst verses in Wu-Camp history. Killa Sin and Dom Pachino drop a nuke on this track, they both bought that heat. Bobby Digital is pretty dope on this track, but Method Man makes his time memorable "Full-Metal jackets cause some gots to have it, killa bee killed only time will reveal" "John blaze flammable when under pressure.......(every line after that)" Is crazy and one his best verses. Islord follows up so horrible, 9th Prince's little cameo was better than that verse. 4.5/5
08. The Beggaz - On The Strength
I don't really know alot of info about these cats but they delivered. Beat is nice on here not to hype, not too calm and that's how they come. 5/5
09. Black Knights & Nothstar
I don't like Holocaust but once again he rips this shit. I love the hook on this track too. Christbearer kinda kills the momentum but not too much but Doc Doom(R.I.P.) follows up crazy..."Atrocity, let it pour acid rain upon your compound,Chaotically, the Black Knights, we move robotically,Lyrically perform labotamy on your biology" Meko ends it cool. 4.5/5
10. Ruthless Bastards - Bastards
I think this was the original beat for "Ghost Deni" but these cats used it nice. I don't really got alot of Info on these guys, but they all bring it hard. 4/5
12. Ghostface Killah - Cobra Clutch
You know Ghostface had to get a solo track, he's crazy on here, he's defintely on some Supreme Clientele shit on this one "Ghost will keep shining to the Sun Bust" Whoa...dope shit...he delivers line after line, the video is funny too...5/5
13. Remedy - Never Again
Even one of the weaker Killa Beez bring heat on this one right here, I saw the movie where this was sampled from also I forgot the name. You can feel the heat in Remedy on here, the beat itself makes you wanna keep it on, real shit...4.5/5
14. Wu-Syndicate - Where Was Heaven
This track is too slow for me. I can't really get into it. They spitting some real shit on here, but I prefer tracks like "Latunza Hit" from these cats. 3.5/5
15. Cappadonna ft.Ghostface Killah - '97 Mentality
Yeah Cappadonna brings it hard on here "Donna come through everyday my uniform changes and switches, I came to make ladies out of bitches,Crackhead niggaz get stitches" I love that line. His delivery on here is flawless he sounds hungry as fuck on here. The beat is like his companion on here, they both just match up great. Lyrics are hard on here no complaints. Ghost on the hook is a ++ 5/5
16. Black Knights & Northstar - Fatal Sting
This is a wack cut. That Christbearer verse is up there with Islord's on this album. The beat is wack on here, I don't get the point of this track. 2/5
Lyrics - 4.5/5
Beats - 5/5
Overall - 4.5/5
If you a Wu-Fan this IS a classic album. It showcases all the skillz of the Killa Beez, the lyrics and beats are Grimey for the 98' and the album cover is Dope. **** 4.5/5 Certified Wu-Classic****
chea.....
royal fam legacy 8/10 (beat sounds like it was made for a shitty SNES game but still tight)
concrete jungle 9/10
co-defendant 10/10
SOS 9/10
execute them 10/10
bronx war stories 8.5/10
and justice for all 9/10
punishment 8.5/10
bastards 7.5/10
on the strength 7.5/10
cobra clutch 10/10
never again 4/10 (a lot of people seem to like this a lot, dont know why)
where was heaven 5/10
97 mentality 10/10 (one of the last sick verses from cappadonna)
fatal sting 8/10
Fatal Sting is wack.
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10. Ruthless Bastards - Bastards
I think this was the original beat for "Ghost Deni" but these cats used it nice. I don't really got alot of Info on these guys, but they all bring it hard. 4/5
I've wondered about this beat too, I thought it was strange that Ghost used this beat when he spat Ghost Deni at that rock the bells show.
HahahahahahahahahaQuote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
yeah its def a banger!
Yeah Yeah Yeah, I love this album!!! Damn i remember when i had it on cassette 10 years ago, remember the times.
This joint to me is classic, Honestly I wish I still had a copy, unfrotunatly they dont sell it in stores any more.
Matter of fact does anyone know a good way to get this, I would appreciate any links.
For real!!!
Holla Back
Freeze
I got mine on e-bay a couple of months ago for like 8 bucks plus shipping.
Yea this CD hasent left my ride in over a week. Got this shit on loop
On The Strength is my mothafuckin shit
Yeah^
That track is so above most it's sick...
I REALLY feel the guy who comes in last...
I was told his name...Ithink he's called "Beggah Ooh" ???
I need to check for that dude...
A monster on the mic.
That Christbearer verse on Fatal Sting is TERRIBLE. Jesus Christ, it is off.
But i LOVE this album. I rate Punishment really high.
The tracks I'll remember forever would be...
Bronx War Story
Never Again
97 Mentality
But I'll probably remember the times, every time I hear the whole album.
Damn I gotta get me anotha copy!!!
It's all good
Peace
Freeze
Just a quick review
The Legacy - 8/10 - good start, simple and aggressive, Timbo style
Concrete Jungle - 8/10 - Sunz Of Man are dope for real, hot Wu style beat
Co-Defendants - 8/10 - love the beat, Shyheims flow is off though
S.O.S. - 8/10 - dope grimey beat, Deck & Streetlife murk it, great song
Execute Them - 8.5/10 - that beat! DEADLY! Raw raw raw & hot track
Bronx War Stories - 7/10 - still good track, great horns, but not as good as rest
And Justice For All - 8/10 - beat has claustrophobic feel, Wu come correct but Islord is poor
Punishment - 7.5/10 - one of the best Black Knights tracks, Holocaust brings it, nice beat, Christbearer is awful
Bastards - 8/10 - pretty raw, loving the beat, lyrics aren't the best but solid song
On The Strength - 8.5/10 - The Beggaz made my jaw drop. Very good track
Cobra Clutch - 8.5/10 - classic Ghost, an unforgiving, merciless flow, slick beat
Never Again - 8/10 - epic track, Remedy gets deep and righteous on this banger
Where Was Heaven - 7/10 - nice feel but never really got moving
97 Mentality - 9/10 - classic Cappa, awesome beat, Ghost legendary chorus, best track
Fatal Sting - 6/5/10 - not as bad as many make out, i like the beat, but all the points lost for Christbearers AWFUL verse again
Someone tell Christbearer to not open his mouth. Those verses just fucked up the tracks he was on. He stops the flow, and his voice is grating.
Bringin it back.. On The Strength:
Ironwire, live back in the days (RIP Father Lord):
FUCKIN DOPEQuote:
Originally Posted by Ya_Bane
I would kill to have that instrumental, thats the first time I ever heard it.
Every track is a banga on this one, execept that remedy track, damn why the fuck did he have to be on this with that jewish bullshit?
I like this album a lot! Every fuckin track is a pure banger!!! This album really shows strenght of killa beez!
I will vote for banger, only cuz I don't find it in a rank with classics like 36 or 4ever!
P.E.A.C.E.
I own this on vinyl and sadly it's in storage,but yo after reading all of the posts here, I want to get it out and play it again...I got some great memories from reading your reviews.
same sample, but this fits it better than ghost deini did.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hollow Dartz
I think it's a diana ross sample, DMX sampled the same track (but not the same piano line) on "Stop Being Greedy".
WHAT?...thats an ill joint in Remedy's otherwise wack discography.Quote:
Originally Posted by No1CouldBIlla