Theory on the Creation of Humans

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

1. Why are still trying to press a scientific theory as fact?

2. Who's been around for a million years to verify if this theory is true?



And the truth which is what?

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It appears you don't actually understand what a THEORY actually entails in terms of science.

A scientific theory IS NOT just a bunch of guys in white coats sitting around GUESSING and making CONJECTURES about how the world works.

Theories are based upon a string of related phenomena that are OBSERVABLE, TESTABLE, and FALSIFIABLE.

So, basically, yes, you can't ever be sure that a scientific theory is "true" but the basic philosophy behind science is searching for the truth based on observation, hypothesis, experimentation, and conclusion. A good scientific theory should be held up to extreme scrutiny. It should forbid other things, but also itself be able to be proven wrong. If it does not have the possibility of being proven wrong it is not scientific and of no use. Now, just because a theory has the possibility of being proven wrong doesn't make it weak. A theory must be able to be tested over and over. While there's no divine ordinance to say that after a certain number of trials a theory is "FACT", a theory that holds up in a number of experiments can usually be accepted as factual (that's not to say a new advancement still couldn't prove it wrong, but the odds of that definately decrease).

Certain theories that are the cornerstones of observing nature and the world are regarded as "laws" and are basically unchallenged because the amount of theories built off of them are enough corroborating evidence to suggest there's no reason to doubt it. Still even these laws, such as the Law of Gravity, the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy, etc. COULD hypothetically be disproven if another testable theory emerged and new evidence proved the old theories wrong.

When most people use the word "theory" they actually mean either hypothesis or conjecture.

A hypothesis is an educated guess that can be tested through the scientific method. A string of related hypotheses that stand up to a number of experiments or tests become regarded as theory.

A conjecture is some times synonymous with hypothesis, but it can also have the connotation of a simple guess or estimate based on logical thinking but not hands-on testing.

so.....

Why is it pretty ridiculous to believe aliens or gods created "race" and started civilization? The thing is, there is not enough corroborating evidence to give such ideas any credence. The current scientific theories on the origins of humankind and human civilization have far more tested evidence to back them up.

Futhermore, they are much more simple than a conspiracy theory about aliens. Ever heard of Occam's razor?

hey i've got a theory too! about 5 million years ago, a species of hominids that are closely related to modern day chimpanzees began walking on two legs instead of using all 4 limbs for locomotion. this freed up the use of its hands for manipulation of the environment. over the course of a few million years this led to smarter and smarter organisms as individuals with better toolmaking abilities and decision-making abilities spawned more offspring than their dumber brethren. complex language developed along with the more intelligent groups, greatly improving their chances of survival. by 200,000 years ago anatomically modern humans had already emerged but it wasn't until just 10,000 years ago that they figured out how to farm! once they learned that trick, well, if you don't know how important agriculture and animal domestication is to human history, i suggest you look it up (or just think really hard about what it would be like going from following herds around all your life, living day to day, versus setting up a permanent camp somewhere, planting some seeds, and reaping in more food than you and all your friends could ever possibly eat).

ya but it's just a theory. the aliens thing is pretty convincing too i dunno.

You don't have to believe that....however it is a nice story that threads things together.

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

It appears you don't actually understand what a THEORY actually entails in terms of science.

A scientific theory IS NOT just a bunch of guys in white coats sitting around GUESSING and making CONJECTURES about how the world works.

Theories are based upon a string of related phenomena that are OBSERVABLE, TESTABLE, and FALSIFIABLE.

So, basically, yes, you can't ever be sure that a scientific theory is "true" but the basic philosophy behind science is searching for the truth based on observation, hypothesis, experimentation, and conclusion. A good scientific theory should be held up to extreme scrutiny. It should forbid other things, but also itself be able to be proven wrong. If it does not have the possibility of being proven wrong it is not scientific and of no use. Now, just because a theory has the possibility of being proven wrong doesn't make it weak. A theory must be able to be tested over and over. While there's no divine ordinance to say that after a certain number of trials a theory is "FACT", a theory that holds up in a number of experiments can usually be accepted as factual (that's not to say a new advancement still couldn't prove it wrong, but the odds of that definately decrease).

Certain theories that are the cornerstones of observing nature and the world are regarded as "laws" and are basically unchallenged because the amount of theories built off of them are enough corroborating evidence to suggest there's no reason to doubt it. Still even these laws, such as the Law of Gravity, the Law of Conservation of Mass and Energy, etc. COULD hypothetically be disproven if another testable theory emerged and new evidence proved the old theories wrong.

When most people use the word "theory" they actually mean either hypothesis or conjecture.

A hypothesis is an educated guess that can be tested through the scientific method. A string of related hypotheses that stand up to a number of experiments or tests become regarded as theory.

A conjecture is some times synonymous with hypothesis, but it can also have the connotation of a simple guess or estimate based on logical thinking but not hands-on testing.

so.....

Why is it pretty ridiculous to believe aliens or gods created "race" and started civilization? The thing is, there is not enough corroborating evidence to give such ideas any credence. The current scientific theories on the origins of humankind and human civilization have far more tested evidence to back them up.

Futhermore, they are much more simple than a conspiracy theory about aliens. Ever heard of Occam's razor?

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Way to go Bill Nye the science guy.

You think your the only person that read the first chapter in every science book ever written. It's okay, there's probably somebody here that needed to read that.

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Originally Posted by Humanface Huggah

hey i've got a theory too! about 5 million years ago, a species of hominids that are closely related to modern day chimpanzees began walking on two legs instead of using all 4 limbs for locomotion. this freed up the use of its hands for manipulation of the environment. over the course of a few million years this led to smarter and smarter organisms as individuals with better toolmaking abilities and decision-making abilities spawned more offspring than their dumber brethren. complex language developed along with the more intelligent groups, greatly improving their chances of survival. by 200,000 years ago anatomically modern humans had already emerged but it wasn't until just 10,000 years ago that they figured out how to farm! once they learned that trick, well, if you don't know how important agriculture and animal domestication is to human history, i suggest you look it up (or just think really hard about what it would be like going from following herds around all your life, living day to day, versus setting up a permanent camp somewhere, planting some seeds, and reaping in more food than you and all your friends could ever possibly eat).

ya but it's just a theory. the aliens thing is pretty convincing too i dunno.

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That's the most ridiculous theory I ever heard. Next thing your gonna tell me it's your nature to fling shit with your bare hands at your fellow man.

I really don't have to think hard about what life would be like following herds, seeing how i've been studying how my ancestors did it and were able to produce enough protein to pro-create enough warriors to keep the savage U.S. government at bay for over 60 years during the indian wars. All the way up until point when they agreed to have peace --just long enough to trickle in and leave our babies bleeding in the snow.

But you guys don't want a history lesson, you want a science lesson:


The fossil record doesn't support evolution. There aren't enough transitional fossils across the board to even keep the theory floating. My First Timbs can come in this thread and verify that for me, or maybe he won't because that'll hurt his book sales.

There are however enough dick riders to jump on the next mans nuts. I'll bet my testicles on that one.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

I really don't have to think hard about what life would be like following herds, seeing how i've been studying how my ancestors did it and were able to produce enough protein to pro-create enough warriors to keep the savage U.S. government at bay for over 60 years during the indian wars. All the way up until point when they agreed to have peace --just long enough to trickle in and leave our babies bleeding in the snow.

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peace has been and always will be a losing proposition. it occurs in isolated places, for short periods of time, among relatively small groups of people. in the real world, the powerful dominate and the weak die off. that's evolution.

but to be fair, the native americans never really had much of a chance. corn isn't nearly as suitable for agriculture as wheat and barley, which the europeans had access to. and have you ever tried taming buffalo?! not nearly as easy as domesticating cows and horses, which again the europeans had access to. so with poorer agricultural resources, native americans were at a tremendous disadvantage. they were doomed from the moment they crossed the bering strait.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

The fossil record doesn't support evolution. There aren't enough transitional fossils across the board to even keep the theory floating.

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wow. i mean if you've never actually studied fossil evidence for human evolution, then what's wrong with saying you simply don't know enough to take a stance one way or the other?

slippy you just got owned by like 5 dudes.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

Way to go Bill Nye the science guy.

You think your the only person that read the first chapter in every science book ever written. It's okay, there's probably somebody here that needed to read that.



That's the most ridiculous theory I ever heard. Next thing your gonna tell me it's your nature to fling shit with your bare hands at your fellow man.

I really don't have to think hard about what life would be like following herds, seeing how i've been studying how my ancestors did it and were able to produce enough protein to pro-create enough warriors to keep the savage U.S. government at bay for over 60 years during the indian wars. All the way up until point when they agreed to have peace --just long enough to trickle in and leave our babies bleeding in the snow.

But you guys don't want a history lesson, you want a science lesson:


The fossil record doesn't support evolution. There aren't enough transitional fossils across the board to even keep the theory floating. My First Timbs can come in this thread and verify that for me, or maybe he won't because that'll hurt his book sales.

There are however enough dick riders to jump on the next mans nuts. I'll bet my testicles on that one.

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lol I guess it's better to just be ignorant and blindly follow mythology and propaganda just because it says it's true instead of observing the world around you and making conclusions based on what you can test.

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Originally Posted by Humanface Huggah

peace has been and always will be a losing proposition. it occurs in isolated places, for short periods of time, among relatively small groups of people. in the real world, the powerful dominate and the weak die off. that's evolution.

but to be fair, the native americans never really had much of a chance. corn isn't nearly as suitable for agriculture as wheat and barley, which the europeans had access to. and have you ever tried taming buffalo?! not nearly as easy as domesticating cows and horses, which again the europeans had access to. so with poorer agricultural resources, native americans were at a tremendous disadvantage. they were doomed from the moment they crossed the bering strait.


wow. i mean if you've never actually studied fossil evidence for human evolution, then what's wrong with saying you simply don't know enough to take a stance one way or the other?

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The wicked dominate. That how the west was won. Had nothing to do with who was the better soldier. Germ warfare and terrorism, no amount of bullshit grammar school propaganda can hide the truth.


As far as your fossil comment, i've studied the fossil evidence. It's evident to me that your mind lacks scope and imagination. Somebody handed you a test, and you quoted from the text. When i'm in school, I re-write the test.

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Originally Posted by whitey

slippy you just got owned by like 5 dudes.

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Ok monkey boy. Here's a banana. http://www.dosometalking.com/images/banana.gif

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

lol I guess it's better to just be ignorant and blindly follow mythology and propaganda just because it says it's true instead of observing the world around you and making conclusions based on what you can test.

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That's why i'm always testing. Your speaking to scientist, not some conspiracy theorist or superstitious cave man.

Maybe you should to start utilizing more of your senses in your observation methods.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

The wicked dominate. That how the west was won. Had nothing to do with who was the better soldier. Germ warfare and terrorism, no amount of bullshit grammar school propaganda can hide the truth.


As far as your fossil comment, i've studied the fossil evidence. It's evident to me that your mind lacks scope and imagination. Somebody handed you a test, and quoted from the text. When i'm in school, I re-write the test.




Ok monkey boy. Here's a banana. http://www.dosometalking.com/images/banana.gif




That's why i'm always testing. Your speaking to scientist, not some conspiracy theorist or superstitious cave man.

Maybe you should to start utilizing more of your senses in your observation methods.

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Wow that's interesting coming from someone so willing to believe in a crackpot conspiracy theory who also trivialized the use of science a couple of posts ago.

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

Wow that's interesting coming from someone so willing to believe in a crackpot conspiracy theory who also trivialized the use of science a couple of posts ago.

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What's more crackpot than thinking you came from a monkey?

And where did I trivialize the use of science?

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

What's more crackpot than thinking you came from a monkey?

And where did I trivialize the use of science?

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Haha, whats so hard IN believing that? Look around you dude, where did anything come from? It came from ealier stuff before it, why are we so different?

Just because you are unwilling to believe we came from another animal, we are just that, another animal. Look what humans do on an everyday basis, just because we have larger brains and can do more complex things doesnt mean we are still not animals. We are the only ones on the planet that kill because we like it, we kill when its not needed, we kill to exterminate others because we dont like them. We do way more foul shit than monkeys. It should be the monkeys not wanting to believe they are related to us mayne.

All you motherfuckers need to do, is go out, buy the first print of Origin of Species, sit down, and read the whole thing, let Darwin explain himself how perfect his theory is.

As for missing links, well obviously the author hasnt read Origin of species, otherwise he would no that the higher form, in the case of man, when homo-sapian devolped language, would use this new skill to eliminate all lower competitive forms. Therefore making any chance of finding records of it totally dependant on finding complete fossilised examples of a previous man. Due to the imperfection of the geological record, and that all the odds are alwyas stcked against bones being preserved, finding this record f a "missing link" is near impossible.

And also, if an intermiedate species of human, i.e somewhere between current state and ape-men, then it would just be classed as a seperate species, it would be near impossible to infer that it was a middle missing link of man.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

The wicked dominate. That how the west was won. Had nothing to do with who was the better soldier. Germ warfare and terrorism, no amount of bullshit grammar school propaganda can hide the truth.

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'wicked' is a word used by the weak to make the powerful feel guilty for their superiority. the concepts of good and evil exist only as a tool to influence others. sorry cap, i don't make the rules. i observe them. you can call me and others with similar beliefs wicked in order to justify your preconceived notions, but that doesn't change reality.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

When i'm in school, I re-write the test.

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you'd have to cos that's the only way your wacky ass answers would ever be 'correct.'

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

What's more crackpot than thinking you came from a monkey?

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All right. Don't even talk to me. You clearly have no idea what the hell evolution is or how it works if you think it means "man came from monkeys."







What's more crackpot than believing man came from monkeys? I can list it:

Believing a god or gods plopped man on earth completely formed
Believing woman came from a man's rib
Believing humans are some how a different entity all together and not related to any animals.
Believing "Good" and "Evil" are absolutes, not subjective terms
Making up myths and conspiracy theories for the origin of the world and human civilization.
Distrusting observable and testable evidence because it shatters your preconcieved notions and ignorance that justify your prejudices.

I feel like Know The Ledge is experiences its age of enlightenment. I haven't seen this many people putting forth worthwhile well thought arguments ummm ever, in this section. Props.

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Originally Posted by Ghostlaced

All you motherfuckers need to do, is go out, buy the first print of Origin of Species, sit down, and read the whole thing, let Darwin explain himself how perfect his theory is.

As for missing links, well obviously the author hasnt read Origin of species, otherwise he would no that the higher form, in the case of man, when homo-sapian devolped language, would use this new skill to eliminate all lower competitive forms. Therefore making any chance of finding records of it totally dependant on finding complete fossilised examples of a previous man. Due to the imperfection of the geological record, and that all the odds are alwyas stcked against bones being preserved, finding this record f a "missing link" is near impossible.

And also, if an intermiedate species of human, i.e somewhere between current state and ape-men, then it would just be classed as a seperate species, it would be near impossible to infer that it was a middle missing link of man.

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So you agree then, the darwin theory of evolution will never be proven as a fact, and therefore can never be held up as real science.

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Originally Posted by Humanface Huggah

'wicked' is a word used by the weak to make the powerful feel guilty for their superiority. the concepts of good and evil exist only as a tool to influence others. sorry cap, i don't make the rules. i observe them. you can call me and others with similar beliefs wicked in order to justify your preconceived notions, but that doesn't change reality.

you'd have to cos that's the only way your wacky ass answers would ever be 'correct.'

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Who are you refering to as the powerful and superior. Would you agree that a baby bleeding in the snow is an act of evil? So you have no problem with killing children then, am I correct?

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Originally Posted by Cthulhu

All right. Don't even talk to me. You clearly have no idea what the hell evolution is or how it works if you think it means "man came from monkeys."







What's more crackpot than believing man came from monkeys? I can list it:

Believing a god or gods plopped man on earth completely formed
Believing woman came from a man's rib
Believing humans are some how a different entity all together and not related to any animals.
Believing "Good" and "Evil" are absolutes, not subjective terms
Making up myths and conspiracy theories for the origin of the world and human civilization.
Distrusting observable and testable evidence because it shatters your preconcieved notions and ignorance that justify your prejudices.

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Since when were monkeys allowed to have opinions?

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Originally Posted by whitey

I feel like Know The Ledge is experiences its age of enlightenment. I haven't seen this many people putting forth worthwhile well thought arguments ummm ever, in this section. Props.

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Here, have fun pawing at your screen for awhile.


http://www.dosometalking.com/images/banana.gif

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

So you agree then, the darwin theory of evolution will never be proven as a fact, and therefore can never be held up as real science.



Who are you refering to as the powerful and superior. Would you agree that a baby bleeding in the snow is an act of evil? So you have no problem with killing children then, am I correct?





Since when were monkeys allowed to have opinions?



Here, have fun pawing at your screen for awhile.


http://www.dosometalking.com/images/banana.gif

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These are some of the stupidest replies I've ever heard.

1.) Darwin's theory of evolution IS real science. Every respectable scientist accepts it as a plausible theory. There are no scientific theories that are proven as facts insofar as there's some divine voice saying "this is true." It's all based on what holds up to the scrutiny. If it's pretty solid in the face of experimentation, then it's pretty safe to trust it as truth. This goes for things that are obviously "true" as well, such as gravity, conservation of energy and mass, etc. Unlike religion, science does not say that theories and laws are immovable mandates that must never be questioned. You can trust what you want. Go ahead and believe that humans somehow ended up on earth exactly as we are now, but there's no evidence to support that. On the other hand, you can draw a conclusion based on mountains and mountains of corroborating documents and stop being a superstitious fool.

2.) Good and Evil are subjective terms. The universe is indifferent, so yeah, a baby bleeding in the snow doesn't amount to much in the whole scheme of things. Does that mean I think it's ok to kill babies? Certainly not. You can acknowledge that life essentially has no meaning (beyond untestable speculation) and that "Good" and "Evil" are within the eye of the beholder, while still feeling compassion for the defenseless, and disgust at acts of violence. It really bugs me when people think that atheists are morally bankrupt or they think that any conduct is acceptable. People develop their values and morality based on cultural and societal standards as well as personal experience. From the perspective of the universe as a whole, there is nothing to say that killing a baby is evil, but from a personal perspective, I would consider that a deplorable act.

3.) That's great. You had no retort so you resorted to a childish insult and attempted to trivialize something you don't understand.

Like it or not, you came from a monkey*, bitch.








* "monkey" in this context means an early bipedal primate probably related to the modern chimpanzee.

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

Who are you refering to as the powerful and superior? Would you agree that a baby bleeding in the snow is an act of evil? So you have no problem with killing children then, am I correct?

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-i'm referring to you. everyone reading this. we're all descended from the most powerful people that have ever lived. all of us share a great (to the nth degree) grandfather who lived probably no more than a few thousand years ago (link). he was a survivor and so were all his children, children's children and so on. these people survived because they were stronger, more intelligent, and just generally better adapted to whatever environment they encountered than all the untold billions who fathered dead-end lineages. our ancestors did whatever it took to survive and reproduce. they lied, cheated, stole and murdered -- they were pretty much the most wicked motherfuckers anyone's ever seen. and i'll bet that if they had spotted a baby belonging to one of their enemies bleeding in the snow, they'd finish it off and go rape its mother.

so the question you should be asking shouldn't be about me killing children, but why is it that you yourself are descended from such evil people?

Scientists that base all their years of studying and research will never acknowledge the facts that Darwin was wrong. A lot the theories are based on conjured up things based on Darwin claiming we evolved from apes.

The most plausible - even though most ares till in denial - is the Sitchin facts.
We have proof that extra-terrestrials are/have/will be here.

Mankind is so primitive and dumbed down that they can't phantom something that we ourselves ponder on doing one day- seeding another planet.

Races of people make sense when you consider:

1- Not all apes on the earth are the same skin color

2- Extra-Terrestrials are not dumbed down human beings - no - they have over a million years of brain and evolution of their consciousness on us - to the point they don't even deal with that part of the brain unless dealing with lower level forms of life such as ourselves.

3 - Take a look at your history. Why in the fuck were so many different ancient cultures around the world - talking/writing/drawing/singing about these beings/"gods". If you mention coincidence - I will slap the fuck outta you.


There are too many dumbed down brain washed mofokas salting these forums and wasting my fuccin time - the truth is in your heart - not your mind.


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You're loosing your time, most of em can't handle the truth

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Originally Posted by V4D3R

Scientists that base all their years of studying and research will never acknowledge the facts that Darwin was wrong. A lot the theories are based on conjured up things based on Darwin claiming we evolved from apes.

The most plausible - even though most ares till in denial - is the Sitchin facts.
We have proof that extra-terrestrials are/have/will be here.

Mankind is so primitive and dumbed down that they can't phantom something that we ourselves ponder on doing one day- seeding another planet.

Races of people make sense when you consider:

1- Not all apes on the earth are the same skin color

2- Extra-Terrestrials are not dumbed down human beings - no - they have over a million years of brain and evolution of their consciousness on us - to the point they don't even deal with that part of the brain unless dealing with lower level forms of life such as ourselves.

3 - Take a look at your history. Why in the fuck were so many different ancient cultures around the world - talking/writing/drawing/singing about these beings/"gods". If you mention coincidence - I will slap the fuck outta you.


There are too many dumbed down brain washed mofokas salting these forums and wasting my fuccin time - the truth is in your heart - not your mind.


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You're loosing your time, most of em can't handle the truth

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Where is the evidence of this beyond your own conjectures?

Why are there beliefs in gods? Simple. Humans are in need of affirmation, and before it was possible to explain natural phenomena through science, religion was used. Furthermore, religion served the function of uniting people and establishing codes of conduct.

Let me break it down for you dumb fuckers.

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Races of people make sense when you consider:

1- Not all apes on the earth are the same skin color

2- Extra-Terrestrials are not dumbed down human beings - no - they have over a million years of brain and evolution of their consciousness on us - to the point they don't even deal with that part of the brain unless dealing with lower level forms of life such as ourselves.

3 - Take a look at your history. Why in the fuck were so many different ancient cultures around the world - talking/writing/drawing/singing about these beings/"gods". If you mention coincidence - I will slap the fuck outta you.

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in 1 - I mention this because the Sitchin theory has ancient texts for reference - in particular the auto-biography of a deity named Enki/Ptah the one that held the caduceus first - something most of you "scientists" use as your stamp of approval on "scientific" shit.

Sitchinites (followers of Sitchin's works) - know that he is on to something when it comes to proving the existence of a race of beings that came to earth and made mankind in their own image( sons of god in Genesis 6).

Those of you that don't believe in this theory are basically followers of some religion.

The xtian will say that the anunnaki are the fallens ones spoken of in the bible:
Facrt is that the church of christians are the most notorious mass killers in the history of this planet. Now the real scenario - spoken about thousands of years ago by one named Enki- is that like us human-beings- aliens have good and bad intentions. People rather visualize this Hollywood aliens with common agendas. Thats not the case.

When Enki needed workers because his were complaining - him ans his sister came up with the brainchild to create a primitive obedient worker. The human DNA/RNA map is pretty simple to a being with millions of years of history when you think about how complex theirs must be.

Enki states that he used different species of beings on this planet to create the first adams. He specifically chose 3 beings that resembled anunnaki - bi-pedal and walked up-right. I can think of 3 beings to suit this claim- the orangutan, the chimpazee, and the gorilla. The first has a reddish tint to it's skin, the chimp has mixed skin colors- some are dark - some white, and gorilla's are black skinned.

**Now I know some of you will want to debate this- but - facts are facts- it was written long ago**

Now for #2-

This is a species of being that was already inter-mingled with other species of this galaxy - Enki's son Marduk is half Draconian (reptilian species from Draco constellation). His skin was green they say. He was a hot-headed fellow that loved to dominate even his own blood - his brothers and sisters all competed to have their section of the earth - they raised armies of humans to fight each other- but the key in this is how they used religion and technology to make themselves seem god-like to our primitive earlier humans- even you religious fanatics nowadays - would fall prostrate to the ground if I had a fiery rod and glow around me.

They used religion - Enki also created the first messiah. The reason he created this messiah was because at one point - Niburu was returning and Enlil did not want to save humankind from the impeding destruction caused by the gravitational pull of Niburu on the earth. Out of the batches of Adapa's( Adapa is the second "Adam"), their was an albino named Galzu, this albino studied under Enki and was one of his favorite humans. After his death- which deeply saddened Enki, he had rec curing dreams about the little fellow- the fellow would tell Enki that the Creator of All does not want humanity to perish in the flood and calamity caused by Niburu's arrival- so Enki taught another human- ( well call him Zizu for short). Yes you bible thumpers call him Noah. Enki even divulges why and how he created a savior for mankind.

Some call him Horus, some call him Melchizedek, some call him Khrishna, some call him Jesus. But the original - I dont know who the original messiah is - nor do I care, because they all had the simple message of this-

The Creator( Kingdom of God) ( Heaven) is within us all. We are all one with the creator and each other.

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Originally Posted by V4D3R

Let me break it down for you dumb fuckers.



in 1 - I mention this because the Sitchin theory has ancient texts for reference - in particular the auto-biography of a deity named Enki/Ptah the one that held the caduceus first - something most of you "scientists" use as your stamp of approval on "scientific" shit.

Sitchinites (followers of Sitchin's works) - know that he is on to something when it comes to proving the existence of a race of beings that came to earth and made mankind in their own image( sons of god in Genesis 6).

Those of you that don't believe in this theory are basically followers of some religion.

The xtian will say that the anunnaki are the fallens ones spoken of in the bible:
Facrt is that the church of christians are the most notorious mass killers in the history of this planet. Now the real scenario - spoken about thousands of years ago by one named Enki- is that like us human-beings- aliens have good and bad intentions. People rather visualize this Hollywood aliens with common agendas. Thats not the case.

When Enki needed workers because his were complaining - him ans his sister came up with the brainchild to create a primitive obedient worker. The human DNA/RNA map is pretty simple to a being with millions of years of history when you think about how complex theirs must be.

Enki states that he used different species of beings on this planet to create the first adams. He specifically chose 3 beings that resembled anunnaki - bi-pedal and walked up-right. I can think of 3 beings to suit this claim- the orangutan, the chimpazee, and the gorilla. The first has a reddish tint to it's skin, the chimp has mixed skin colors- some are dark - some white, and gorilla's are black skinned.

**Now I know some of you will want to debate this- but - facts are facts- it was written long ago**

Now for #2-

This is a species of being that was already inter-mingled with other species of this galaxy - Enki's son Marduk is half Draconian (reptilian species from Draco constellation). His skin was green they say. He was a hot-headed fellow that loved to dominate even his own blood - his brothers and sisters all competed to have their section of the earth - they raised armies of humans to fight each other- but the key in this is how they used religion and technology to make themselves seem god-like to our primitive earlier humans- even you religious fanatics nowadays - would fall prostrate to the ground if I had a fiery rod and glow around me.

They used religion - Enki also created the first messiah. The reason he created this messiah was because at one point - Niburu was returning and Enlil did not want to save humankind from the impeding destruction caused by the gravitational pull of Niburu on the earth. Out of the batches of Adapa's( Adapa is the second "Adam"), their was an albino named Galzu, this albino studied under Enki and was one of his favorite humans. After his death- which deeply saddened Enki, he had rec curing dreams about the little fellow- the fellow would tell Enki that the Creator of All does not want humanity to perish in the flood and calamity caused by Niburu's arrival- so Enki taught another human- ( well call him Zizu for short). Yes you bible thumpers call him Noah. Enki even divulges why and how he created a savior for mankind.

Some call him Horus, some call him Melchizedek, some call him Khrishna, some call him Jesus. But the original - I dont know who the original messiah is - nor do I care, because they all had the simple message of this-

The Creator( Kingdom of God) ( Heaven) is within us all. We are all one with the creator and each other.

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Wow....you are a nutcase. You're so delusional it's not even worth my energy to try to pick apart the abundance of logical fallacies and outright lies, but there was one sentence that really caught my eye:

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**Now I know some of you will want to debate this- but - facts are facts- it was written long ago**

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So I guess it MUST be true because it was written long ago, right? I guess Zeus and all the Olympian gods were real too because they were written about long ago. I guess the Bible is real because it was written long ago and claims to be true. I guess it's true that you can turn lead into gold because that was written long ago. I guess it's true that diseases are caused by an imbalance in one of the four humors and bleeding is a good way to cure that. I guess plagues are caused by the wrath of god, so whenever there's a new sickness we should whip ourselves with cat-o-ninetails and carry crosses on our backs in a big procession of humilty and agony.

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Let me break it down for you dumb fuckers.



in 1 - I mention this because the Sitchin theory has ancient texts for reference - in particular the auto-biography of a deity named Enki/Ptah the one that held the caduceus first - something most of you "scientists" use as your stamp of approval on "scientific" shit.

Sitchinites (followers of Sitchin's works) - know that he is on to something when it comes to proving the existence of a race of beings that came to earth and made mankind in their own image( sons of god in Genesis 6).

Those of you that don't believe in this theory are basically followers of some religion.

The xtian will say that the anunnaki are the fallens ones spoken of in the bible:
Facrt is that the church of christians are the most notorious mass killers in the history of this planet. Now the real scenario - spoken about thousands of years ago by one named Enki- is that like us human-beings- aliens have good and bad intentions. People rather visualize this Hollywood aliens with common agendas. Thats not the case.

When Enki needed workers because his were complaining - him ans his sister came up with the brainchild to create a primitive obedient worker. The human DNA/RNA map is pretty simple to a being with millions of years of history when you think about how complex theirs must be.

Enki states that he used different species of beings on this planet to create the first adams. He specifically chose 3 beings that resembled anunnaki - bi-pedal and walked up-right. I can think of 3 beings to suit this claim- the orangutan, the chimpazee, and the gorilla. The first has a reddish tint to it's skin, the chimp has mixed skin colors- some are dark - some white, and gorilla's are black skinned.

**Now I know some of you will want to debate this- but - facts are facts- it was written long ago**

Now for #2-

This is a species of being that was already inter-mingled with other species of this galaxy - Enki's son Marduk is half Draconian (reptilian species from Draco constellation). His skin was green they say. He was a hot-headed fellow that loved to dominate even his own blood - his brothers and sisters all competed to have their section of the earth - they raised armies of humans to fight each other- but the key in this is how they used religion and technology to make themselves seem god-like to our primitive earlier humans- even you religious fanatics nowadays - would fall prostrate to the ground if I had a fiery rod and glow around me.

They used religion - Enki also created the first messiah. The reason he created this messiah was because at one point - Niburu was returning and Enlil did not want to save humankind from the impeding destruction caused by the gravitational pull of Niburu on the earth. Out of the batches of Adapa's( Adapa is the second "Adam"), their was an albino named Galzu, this albino studied under Enki and was one of his favorite humans. After his death- which deeply saddened Enki, he had rec curing dreams about the little fellow- the fellow would tell Enki that the Creator of All does not want humanity to perish in the flood and calamity caused by Niburu's arrival- so Enki taught another human- ( well call him Zizu for short). Yes you bible thumpers call him Noah. Enki even divulges why and how he created a savior for mankind.

Some call him Horus, some call him Melchizedek, some call him Khrishna, some call him Jesus. But the original - I dont know who the original messiah is - nor do I care, because they all had the simple message of this-

The Creator( Kingdom of God) ( Heaven) is within us all. We are all one with the creator and each other.

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HAHA wow.

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A lot the theories are based on conjured up things based on Darwin claiming we evolved from apes.

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Youre a ignorant mf man, DARWIN NEVER ONCE CLAIMED OR IMPLIED WE CAME FROM APES. Other people started saying that after Darwin released his book.

He never even mentions the evolution of man in Origin of Species, but you wouldnt know that, cus youve never read it!

Ya'll are too scared to read Origin of Species, youre all hung up on this "evolution" word, Darwin doesnt even use that word more than 3 times in his book, its all about Natural Selection thru desirable characteristics in the struggle for life.

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Let me break it down for you dumb fuckers.

...[some of the most crazy wacked out, unsubstantitated garbage you'll ever read]...

The Creator( Kingdom of God) ( Heaven) is within us all. We are all one with the creator and each other.

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i find it amazing that we can both arrive at the same spiritual outlook through totally different means. but i encourage you to drop the whole "alien reptile-gods from the draco constellation are our creators" business and just apply some logic. it's way more satisfying.

Ok scientist.

Then explain what science can't pinpoint and call the missing link?

Why did 200 plus gene sequences mysteriously appear in the homo species?

We went from ape to homo-erectus ( cro-magnon & neanderthal ) and then to sapien instantly.

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clear evidence that a particular gene, MGC8902, which encodes for a protein of unknown function, has the largest number of copies (212) in humans, compared to other primates

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Science Vol. 313. no. 5791, pp. 1304 - 1307

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Extreme gene duplication is a major source of evolutionary novelty. A genome-wide survey of gene copy number variation among human and great ape lineages revealed that the most striking human lineage–specific amplification was due to an unknown gene, MGC8902, which is predicted to encode multiple copies of a protein domain of unknown function (DUF1220). Sequences encoding these domains are virtually all primate-specific, show signs of positive selection, and are increasingly amplified generally as a function of a species' evolutionary proximity to humans, where the greatest number of copies (212) is found. DUF1220 domains are highly expressed in brain regions associated with higher cognitive function, and in brain show neuron-specific expression preferentially in cell bodies and dendrites.

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Magdalena C. Popesco,1,2,3* Erik J. MacLaren,1,2,3*http://www.sciencemag.org/math/link//dagger.gif Janet Hopkins,1,2,3 Laura Dumas,1,3 Michael Cox,1,2,3 Lynne Meltesen,1,4 Loris McGavran,1,4 Gerald J. Wyckoff,5 James M. Sikela1,2,3
1 Human Medical Genetics, University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center, Aurora, CO 80045, USA.
2 Neuroscience Programs, University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center, Aurora, CO 80045, USA.
3 Department of Pharmacology, University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center, Aurora, CO 80045, USA.
4 Department of Pathology, University of Colorado at Denver and Health Sciences Center, Aurora, CO 80045, USA.
5 Division of Molecular Biology and Biochemistry, University of Missouri, Kansas City, MO 64110, USA.
* These authors contributed equally to this work.
http://www.sciencemag.org/math/dagger.gif Present address: Wellcome Trust Sanger Institute, Wellcome Trust Genome Campus, Hinxton, Cambridgeshire CB10 1SA, UK.

Here's a reason why scientists don't like Mr. Sitchin - they can't answer that question I asked you.

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Sensational Human Genome Discovery

THE CASE OF ADAM’S ALIEN GENES

In whose image was The Adam – the prototype of modern humans, Homo sapiens – created?
The Bible asserts that the Elohim said: “Let us fashion the Adam in our image and after our likeness.” But if one is to accept a tentative explanation for enigmatic genes that humans possess, offered when the deciphering of the human genome was announced in mid-February, the feat was decided upon by a group of bacteria!
“Humbling” was the prevalent adjective used by the scientific teams and the media to describe the principal finding – that the human genome contains not the anticipated 100,000 - 140,000 genes (the stretches of DNA that direct the production of amino-acids and proteins) but only some 30,000+ -- little more than double the 13,601 genes of a fruit fly and barely fifty percent more than the roundworm’s 19,098. What a comedown from the pinnacle of the genomic Tree of Life!
Moreover, there was hardly any uniqueness to the human genes. They are comparative to not the presumed 95 percent but to almost 99 percent of the chimpanzees, and 70 percent of the mouse. Human genes, with the same functions, were found to be identical to genes of other vertebrates, as well as invertebrates, plants, fungi, even yeast. The findings not only confirmed that there was one source of DNA for all life on Earth, but also enabled the scientists to trace the evolutionary process – how more complex organisms evolved, genetically, from simpler ones, adopting at each stage the genes of a lower life form to create a more complex higher life form – culminating with Homo sapiens.

The “Head-scratching” Discovery
It was here, in tracing the vertical evolutionary record contained in the human and the other analyzed genomes, that the scientists ran into an enigma. The “head-scratching discovery by the public consortium,” as Science termed it, was that the human genome contains 223 genes that do not have the required predecessors on the genomic evolutionary tree.
How did Man acquire such a bunch of enigmatic genes?
In the evolutionary progression from bacteria to invertebrates (such as the lineages of yeast, worms, flies or mustard weed – which have been deciphered) to vertebrates (mice, chimpanzees) and finally modern humans, these 223 genes are completely missing in the invertebrate phase. Therefore, the scientists can explain their presence in the human genome by a “rather recent” (in evolutionary time scales) “probable horizontal transfer from bacteria.”
In other words: At a relatively recent time as Evolution goes, modern humans acquired an extra 223 genes not through gradual evolution, not vertically on the Tree of Life, but horizontally, as a sideways insertion of genetic material from bacteria…

An Immense Difference
Now, at first glance it would seem that 223 genes is no big deal. In fact, while every single gene makes a great difference to every individual, 223 genes make an immense difference to a species such as ours.
The human genome is made up of about three billion neucleotides (the “letters” A-C-G-T which stand for the initials of the four nucleic acids that spell out all life on Earth); of them, just a little more than one percent are grouped into functioning genes (each gene consists of thousands of "letters"). The difference between one individual person and another amounts to about one “letter” in a thousand in the DNA “alphabet.” The difference between Man and Chimpanzee is less than one percent as genes go; and one percent of 30,000 genes is 300.
So, 223 genes is more than two thirds of the difference between me, you and a chimpanzee!
An analysis of the functions of these genes through the proteins that they spell out, conducted by the Public Consortium team and published in the journal Nature, shows that they include not only proteins involved in important physiological but also psychiatric functions. Moreover, they are responsible for important neurological enzymes that stem only from the mitochondrial portion of the DNA – the so-called “Eve” DNA that humankind inherited only through the mother-line, all the way back to a single “Eve.” That finding alone raises doubt regarding that the "bacterial insertion" explanation.

A Shaky Theory
How sure are the scientists that such important and complex genes, such an immense human advantage, was obtained by us --“rather recently”-- through the courtesy of infecting bacteria?
“It is a jump that does not follow current evolutionary theories,” said Steven Scherer, director of mapping of the Human Genome Sequencing Center, Baylor College of Medicine.
“We did not identify a strongly preferred bacterial source for the putative horizontally transferred genes,” states the report in Nature. The Public Consortium team, conducting a detailed search, found that some 113 genes (out of the 223) “are widespread among bacteria” – though they are entirely absent even in invertebrates. An analysis of the proteins which the enigmatic genes express showed that out of 35 identified, only ten had counterparts in vertebrates (ranging from cows to rodents to fish); 25 of the 35 were unique to humans.
“It is not clear whether the transfer was from bacteria to human or from human to bacteria,” Science quoted Robert Waterson, co-director of Washington University’s Genome Sequencing Center, as saying.
But if Man gave those genes to bacteria, where did Man acquire those genes to begin with?

The Role of the Anunnaki
Readers of my books must be smiling by now, for they know the answer.
They know that the biblical verses dealing with the fashioning of The Adam are condensed renderings of much much more detailed Sumerian and Akkadian texts, found inscribed on clay tablets, in which the role of the Elohim in Genesis is performed by the Anunnaki – “Those Who From Heaven to Earth Came.”
As detailed in my books, beginning with The 12th Planet (1976) and even more so in Genesis Revisited and The Cosmic Code, the Anunnaki came to Earth some 450,000 years ago from the planet Nibiru – a member of our own solar system whose great orbit brings it to our part of the heavens once every 3,600 years. They came here in need of gold, with which to protect their dwindling atmosphere. Exhausted and in need of help in mining the gold, their chief scientist Enki suggested that they use their genetic knowledge to create the needed Primitive Workers. When the other leaders of the Anunnaki asked: How can you create a new being? He answered:

"The being that we need already exists;
all that we have to do is put our mark on it.”

The time was some 300,000 years ago.
What he had in mind was to upgrade genetically the existing hominids, who were already on Earth through Evolution, by adding some of the genes of the more advanced Anunnaki. That the Anunnaki, who could already travel in space 450,000 years ago, possessed the genomic science (whose threshold we have now reached) is clear not only from the actual texts but also from numerous depictions in which the double-helix of the DNA is rendered as Entwined Serpents (a symbol still used for medicine and healing) -- see illustration ‘A’ below.
When the leaders of the Anunnaki approved the project (as echoed in the biblical ”Let us fashion the Adam”), Enki with the help of Ninharsag, the Chief Medical Officer of the Anunnaki, embarked on a process of genetic engineering, by adding and combining genes of the Anunnaki with those of the already-existing hominids.
When, after much trial and error breathtakingly described and recorded in antiquity, a “perfect model” was attained, Ninharsag held him up and shouted: “My hands have made it!” An ancient artist depicted the scene on a cylinder seal (illustration ‘B’).
And that, I suggest, is how we had come to possess the unique extra genes. It was in the image of the Anunnaki, not of bacteria, that Adam and Eve were fashioned.

A Matter of Extreme Significance
Unless further scientific research can establish, beyond any doubt, that the only possible source of the extra genes are indeed bacteria, and unless it is then also determined that the infection (“horizontal transfer”) went from bacteria to Man and not from Man to bacteria, the only other available solution will be that offered by the Sumerian texts millennia ago.
Until then, the enigmatic 223 alien genes will remain as an alternative – and as a corroboration by modern science of the Anunnaki and their genetic feats on Earth.

ZECHARIA SITCHIN

http://www.sitchin.com/images/dna1.jpg http://www.sitchin.com/images/adam1.jpg

illustration A

illustration B

© Z. Sitchin

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...unless it is then also determined that the infection (“horizontal transfer”) went from bacteria to Man and not from Man to bacteria, the only other available solution will be that offered by the Sumerian texts millennia ago.

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really? you're defending a statement like that?!

the human genome wasn't fully sequenced until May of last year. so what you're saying is that a gap in our understanding of our genes can ONLY be explained by accepting the Sumerian creation story as fact? cmon man, don't dress up that garbage in here and try to pass it off as knowledge. go do your homework.

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These are some of the stupidest replies I've ever heard.

1.) Darwin's theory of evolution IS real science. Every respectable scientist accepts it as a plausible theory. There are no scientific theories that are proven as facts insofar as there's some divine voice saying "this is true." It's all based on what holds up to the scrutiny. If it's pretty solid in the face of experimentation, then it's pretty safe to trust it as truth. This goes for things that are obviously "true" as well, such as gravity, conservation of energy and mass, etc. Unlike religion, science does not say that theories and laws on earth exactly as we are now, but there's no evidence to support that. On the other hand, you can draw a conclusion based on mountains and mountains of corroborating documents and stop being a superstitious foare immovable mandates that must never be questioned. You can trust what you want. Go ahead and believe that humans somehow ended up ol.

2.) Good and Evil are subjective terms. The universe is indifferent, so yeah, a baby bleeding in the snow doesn't amount to much in the whole scheme of things. Does that mean I think it's ok to kill babies? Certainly not. You can acknowledge that life essentially has no meaning (beyond untestable speculation) and that "Good" and "Evil" are within the eye of the beholder, while still feeling compassion for the defenseless, and disgust at acts of violence. It really bugs me when people think that atheists are morally bankrupt or they think that any conduct is acceptable. People develop their values and morality based on cultural and societal standards as well as personal experience. From the perspective of the universe as a whole, there is nothing to say that killing a baby is evil, but from a personal perspective, I would consider that a deplorable act.

3.) That's great. You had no retort so you resorted to a childish insult and attempted to trivialize something you don't understand.

Like it or not, you came from a monkey*, bitch.








* "monkey" in this context means an early bipedal primate probably related to the modern chimpanzee.

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1. There's evidence of creation all around you. It's too bad your so blind you can't see it.

2. Your a sick fuck. People like you should be locked away. Children our innocent, you disgust me.

3. I use a form of communitcation you monkey minded being can grasp.


Like it or not, you came from a monkey not me. Silly ass, why the hostile language? Your monkey emotions are starting to become exposed.

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Originally Posted by Humanface Huggah

-i'm referring to you. everyone reading this. we're all descended from the most powerful people that have ever lived. all of us share a great (to the nth degree) grandfather who lived probably no more than a few thousand years ago (link). he was a survivor and so were all his children, children's children and so on. these people survived because they were stronger, more intelligent, and just generally better adapted to whatever environment they encountered than all the untold billions who fathered dead-end lineages. our ancestors did whatever it took to survive and reproduce. they lied, cheated, stole and murdered -- they were pretty much the most wicked motherfuckers anyone's ever seen. and i'll bet that if they had spotted a baby belonging to one of their enemies bleeding in the snow, they'd finish it off and go rape its mother.

so the question you should be asking shouldn't be about me killing children, but why is it that you yourself are descended from such evil people?

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You were descended from evil people, that enslave and killed for simple pleasures.

I was descended from people who tried to maintain peace with other cultures. Who slayed the wicked only as a last resort. I descended from a people that doesn't need to distort history and make up monkey theories to ease their trouble minds over their savagery.

--->done

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cthulusonned x2

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Originally Posted by Slippy Capalini

1. There's evidence of creation all around you. It's too bad your so blind you can't see it.

2. Your a sick fuck. People like you should be locked away. Children our innocent, you disgust me.

3. I use a form of communitcation you monkey minded being can grasp.


Like it or not, you came from a monkey not me. Silly ass, why the hostile language? Your monkey emotions are starting to become exposed.








You were descended from evil people, that enslave and killed for simple pleasures.

I was descended from people who tried to maintain peace with other cultures. Who slayed the wicked only as a last resort. I descended from a people that doesn't need to distort history and make up monkey theories to ease their trouble minds over their savagery.

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Did you even read my post? I said I would never kill an innocent being. However, I also know that concepts of "innocence", "good", "evil", etc. are all human inventions. You act like there's some divine moral order handed down by some omnipotent force, and that's not the case. The universe doesn't give a shit if you kill an infant. Humans operate through the values of their society and upbringing. Why do you think honor killings occur among Yazidi Kurds?

You obviously can't grasp the way the world works without relying on a spiritual crutch.

I don't condone killing innocents. I would NEVER kill an infant or a child or any defenseless human.

But look at the universe as a whole.

Humans are not even a wave, and probably less than a ripple in the cosmic sea.

Do you realize just how insignificant we are? You have to be pretty selfish to think humans or any life on earth has some kind of importance to the rest of the universe.

Until Yaweh, Krishna, Zeus, Xenu, reptillian aliens, or the Wizard of Oz comes down from heaven to tell me I'm wrong, I have no reason to believe there is any power beyond subatomic particles that react to form matter.

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Did you even read my post? I said I would never kill an innocent being. However, I also know that concepts of "innocence", "good", "evil", etc. are all human inventions. You act like there's some divine moral order handed down by some omnipotent force, and that's not the case. The universe doesn't give a shit if you kill an infant. Humans operate through the values of their society and upbringing. Why do you think honor killings occur among Yazidi Kurds?

You obviously can't grasp the way the world works without relying on a spiritual crutch.

I don't condone killing innocents. I would NEVER kill an infant or a child or any defenseless human.

But look at the universe as a whole.

Humans are not even a wave, and probably less than a ripple in the cosmic sea.

Do you realize just how insignificant we are? You have to be pretty selfish to think humans or any life on earth has some kind of importance to the rest of the universe.

Until Yaweh, Krishna, Zeus, Xenu, reptillian aliens, or the Wizard of Oz comes down from heaven to tell me I'm wrong, I have no reason to believe there is any power beyond subatomic particles that react to form matter.

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I agree. We are insignificant, but that doesn't mean we're not important.

My "spirtual clutch" gives me insight that you lack.

You claim you would never kill a child, but in your line of thinking, killing children is subjective. It wouldn't bother you to kill a child- Therefore you take no responsibility for your actions in regards to a child's life. Killing children as you see fit for your survival, or looking away from child killers is not outside your realm of thought. Therefore, to me- you are a child killer.

"The Universe" cares and it can swallow you alive if it wants to. Rest assured, the Wizard is hear and i'm telling you it is wrong.

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I agree. We are insignificant, but that doesn't mean we're not important.

My "spirtual clutch" gives me insight that you lack.

You claim you would never kill a child, but in your line of thinking, killing children is subjective. It wouldn't bother you to kill a child- Therefore you take no responsibility for your actions in regards to a child's life. Killing children as you see fit for your survival, or looking away from child killers is not outside your realm of thought. Therefore, to me- you are a child killer.

"The Universe" cares and it can swallow you alive if it wants to. Rest assured, the Wizard is hear and i'm telling you it is wrong.

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Lay off the kool-aid.


Bring something on your side of the debate to disprove what we are saying, not just mumbo jumbo about semantics and putting meaningless banana pictures up like a little kid.

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Lay off the kool-aid.


Bring something on your side of the debate to disprove what we are saying, not just mumbo jumbo about semantics and putting meaningless banana pictures up like a little kid.

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I've debated every point made so far. You guys can band together all you want, you still don't have nothing but a bullshit therory that science can never prove as fact.

Wait maybe here's somthing you can understand:

http://i17.photobucket.com/albums/b8...f837a4b8_o.jpg

Monkey Porn. Be a good little monkey and go play with yourself for a little while. Run a long now.

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when someone is getting it handed to them they lash out on everyone :)

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Somebody needs to put the monkeys back in thier cages. I just can't stand cheer leading monkeys.

So are you on the alien bandwagon or you have something different? Or you have nothing and just don't want to believe in natural selection?

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So are you on the alien bandwagon or you have something different? Or you have nothing and just don't want to believe in natural selection?

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I'm on some other shit, but don't feel bad I just have different sources for knowledge. I couldn't began to get you to understand it over a message board using yellow text, but I can steer you out of your current rut of thinking.

The tread is the theory of creation of humans, drop your knowledge.

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The tread is the theory of creation of humans, drop your knowledge.

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There was a certain point in history where people got together and started telling each other they were wrong.

Then people started telling other people their origins.

To make it easier, people came up with theories they could agree on.

But then somebody that didn't forget thier origin told those people they were full of shit.

And around and around we go.

I could give you my theory on where you came from, but the truth is, I don't know where you came from. You tell me you evolved from a monkey, so for all I know you evolved from a monkey over millions of years. But I think somebody told you that, and you like that idea so you ran with it.

But don't tell me I came from a monkey, because I know where my ancestors originated from.

I can't tell you my creation story, because what would be the point? Your going to tell me i'm some crazy person that believes in fairy tales, or even worse- God. Just the same way that i'm telling you, your crazy for believing you evolved from a monkey.

Maybe you did evolve from a monkey, that's cool.