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11-17-2006, 06:57 PM
Kephrem

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Originally Posted by Black Man

Allah is not owned by the muslims or any other religion. The word in its own self predates all semetic languages

Show and Prove.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah
11-17-2006, 06:59 PM
Black Man

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Originally Posted by wise the dumb

All It Takes Is For Allah To Expose You Fake Snake Ass Niggas. Black Man - You Savage! What Is Todays Mathmatics Son!? What You Cant Quote? Whats Wrong With You. You Must Think Im Stupid. All You Fake Niggas Just Stop Mis-representing My Nation Cause Allah Sees Everything. Black Man Forget It. Youve Said Enough. I Know What Time Its Now.

No Peace For You! Snake!

How do you want to handle this? Over the internet or over the phone? I don't think we live close enough to meet in person, but I may be wrong. PM if you want to handle this the right way.

Lessons, I don't speak on lessons like that over the net.

Quoting is simple, it's living it out that I'm concerned about. Are you just quoting or are you living it out?
11-17-2006, 07:02 PM
Kephrem

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Originally Posted by knowcheeze

Pthe God of the Quran and Bible is a black man and it was greek platonic influences that corrupted it......

Show and Prove. If this is indeed the case --(even though it's a FACT that there are parts of the Bible that condemn the white Greeks and their philosephy) --in your own words break it down.
11-17-2006, 07:05 PM
Black Man

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Originally Posted by Dirk Daring

in Regards to 120 the English Lesson was purposely indirect who was the trader? for ex. Who was Fard's Uncle?

there is no indian that will concur that they came from India and migrated to America 16,000 years ago. and i have talked with them....

there is no proof that Mecca, Arabia is the cradle or root of civilization, There is no Historical proof that Moses even walked on this planet and according to some Arabs i chatted with Palestine is not recognized as a city in fact that whole area are not recognized by both black and white......

those are Lessons (think over that) the Actual Facts are universal along with the solar facts but even those can be debated.....

Huh??? What??? I can already See that you don't understand the above. Now if you truly desire to learn, I can send you in the right direction.
11-17-2006, 07:16 PM
Black Man

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Originally Posted by Kephrem

Show and Prove.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah

:no: I don't know what's worst, your faith that the bible is actually holy or the fact that you posted an article from wikipedia as if it's a reliable source.
11-17-2006, 07:22 PM
Kephrem

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Originally Posted by Black Man

Referring to the word "Allah"

In digging deeper into the history of said phoneme you will find it appearing in Mdw Ntr (Ancient Egyptian)

Where?

And perhaps the Hyksos introduced the term?

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Amongst the Akkad you will find it written as iluh.

Why are you citing them? they spoke Semitic.

Akkadian
1855, from Akkad, name of city founded by Sargon I in northern Babylonia, applied to the east Sem. language spoken there (c.2300-2100 B.C.E.), preserved in cuneiform inscriptions.

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Amongst the Canaanites it is written as il.

That all these had variants of the word doesn't prove that it did not originate in the original Hebrew, that is, the original pure language of God. ALL the nations spoke dialects of that language.

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Egypt gave Phoenicia their alphabet system. From that point you have a proto-Semitic script dividing into it's various offshoots.

That alphabet script is the original Hebrew.

http://www.phoenician.org/alphabet_phoenician.GIF
11-17-2006, 07:37 PM
Black Man

Hebrew is not the original language. There were many languages spoken before hebrew. What kind of religious mumbo jumbo are you coming with?
11-17-2006, 07:46 PM
Kephrem

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Originally Posted by Black Man

:no: I don't know what's worst, your faith that the bible is actually holy

Holy means seperarted for God's use, and I trust my handling of the sword.

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or the fact that you posted an article from wikipedia as if it's a reliable source.

It's general information. Or are you implying that it is a fringe website beyond the scope of "reliable sources"?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah#External_links
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah#Bibliography
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allah#References_and_notes
11-17-2006, 07:50 PM
Black Man

It's obvious that you don't have knowledge of the origins of the word Allah. Whatever you say on this topic is only an opinion. God don't deal with opinion, he has knowledge and wisdom, not opinion.

If you don't know why is it so hard for you to say I don't know. When you try and pretend that you know you make yourself out to be a liar.
11-17-2006, 07:57 PM
Kephrem

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Originally Posted by Black Man

Hebrew is not the original language.

All original nations spoke the same language at one time. Genesis 11:1. That language was the original Hebrew LA-SHA-WAN-QA-DASH, "the pure tongue". Hebrew comes from the word I-BAR-YATH which means "OF THE PAST". Meaning from the beginning, the original. (note: not to confused with that Greek influenced modern Hebrew language of modern so-called Israeli's)

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There were many languages spoken before hebrew.

Just like with most everything else the whiteman taught you (strarting with those 19th century German higher critics of the Bible), it's the other way around, all languages came after the Hebrew.

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What kind of religious mumbo jumbo are you coming with?

What sort of Straw Man question are you asking me? Please cite where I have once spoken of any religion or of anything religous.
11-17-2006, 08:12 PM
Kephrem

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Originally Posted by Black Man

It's obvious that you don't have knowledge of the origins of the word Allah.

The word Allah comes from the original Hebrew word AH-LA and means POWER.

But what WAS obvious was you erred using the Akkadians as a source to prove the word Allah to be pre Semitic when they themselves were speaking it.

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Whatever you say on this topic is only an opinion. God don't deal with opinion, he has knowledge and wisdom, not opinion.

Let's go the etymology and see if it's an opinion, or rather is based on the study of origins of words.

Allah
1702, Muslim name of the Supreme Being, from Arabic Allahu, contr. of al-Ilahu, from al "the" + Ilah "God," rel. to Heb. Elohim.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Allah
11-17-2006, 08:51 PM
Ultimate Fist

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Originally Posted by knowcheeze

PEACE
don't worry bout that shit blackman....the man was asking a "loaded" question.....

"I cant call him Allah...against my ethics but you know who I mean."

thats some passive aggressive shit right there and then he wants to ask about Allah's first born?????

as Dr. Cress Welsing says "if you don't understand white supremacy then you will only be confused"

they are fucking with you black man simply cuz the lessons talk about white man being the devil which as Dr. WElsing tells us what drives every behavioral patern of the devil

in closing....a true Muslim would call Allah a black man...the God of the Quran and Bible is a black man and it was greek platonic influences that corrupted it......

You niggas paranoid! Nigga this is referring to him calling me out on not calling him Allah on a previous post and no, "true muslims" will not call him "God" (capital G; lower case g is taboo but if its referring to a person's self-imposed title is probably OK). If it really matters The Father would probably be an OK alternative for me, as muslims generally don't see God as their father and it is a generally acceptable social title (Father Catholic Priest etc).

Black Man... this is your maturity level:

"Hey what's on TV?"
"Call it Television or I won't tell you!"
11-18-2006, 05:13 AM
7EL7

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Originally Posted by Black Man

Harsh? Maybe it was, but still relevent. Anytime a person calls another person out of their name, it's disrespect. A good name is better than gold. If a person is truly seeking the "knowledge" then there's a way to approach that knowledge and that's first with respect. When I go to the mosque, I don't walk around with my shoes on, I take them off out of respect. When I'm in the church, and the people stand and pray, I stand with them out of respect. When I break bread with any family and they bless their food, I'm right there with them out of respect.

you got all the answers and your way/path is flawless ?
11-18-2006, 10:38 AM
Imperial1

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Originally Posted by Black Man

How do you want to handle this? Over the internet or over the phone? I don't think we live close enough to meet in person, but I may be wrong. PM if you want to handle this the right way.

Lessons, I don't speak on lessons like that over the net.

Quoting is simple, it's living it out that I'm concerned about. Are you just quoting or are you living it out?

All you had to do was answer his question of what is today's mathematics. If you'd done that, there wouldn't have been any e-conflict to begin with.

Imperial1
11-18-2006, 10:40 AM
Imperial1

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Originally Posted by Ultimate Fist

You niggas paranoid! Nigga this is referring to him calling me out on not calling him Allah on a previous post and no, "true muslims" will not call him "God" (capital G; lower case g is taboo but if its referring to a person's self-imposed title is probably OK). If it really matters The Father would probably be an OK alternative for me, as muslims generally don't see God as their father and it is a generally acceptable social title (Father Catholic Priest etc).

Black Man... this is your maturity level:

"Hey what's on TV?"
"Call it Television or I won't tell you!"

I JUST HOLLARED! *insert laughing smiley*

Imperial1
11-20-2006, 08:38 PM
Black Man

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Originally Posted by Kephrem

The word Allah comes from the original Hebrew word AH-LA and means POWER.

But what WAS obvious was you erred using the Akkadians as a source to prove the word Allah to be pre Semitic when they themselves were speaking it.

Let's go the etymology and see if it's an opinion, or rather is based on the study of origins of words.

Allah
1702, Muslim name of the Supreme Being, from Arabic Allahu, contr. of al-Ilahu, from al "the" + Ilah "God," rel. to Heb. Elohim.

http://www.etymonline.com/index.php?term=Allah

Using the whiteman as a source again huh?
11-20-2006, 08:39 PM
Black Man

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Originally Posted by APSU

you got all the answers and your way/path is flawless ?

are you asking me or are you telling me?
11-20-2006, 08:43 PM
Black Man

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Originally Posted by Imperial1

All you had to do was answer his question of what is today's mathematics. If you'd done that, there wouldn't have been any e-conflict to begin with.

Imperial1

So you have a conflict with me? I told you how to solve that problem. You want to go through lessons/math and all that, no problem. I don't do that over the internet though.
11-20-2006, 10:27 PM
Dirk Daring

How can a man have the right direction for another man? Thats like saying I know you better than you. Be humble.
11-21-2006, 12:54 AM
Kephrem

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Originally Posted by Black Man

Using the whiteman as a source again huh?

Let's just say the person who did the etymological research there was a "whiteman" (which of course you would have to PROVE if you were to make this point) -- but before you do that, where is YOUR source that I've advocated against any, or all research, that happened to be done by a whiteman??

SHOW AND PROVE.
11-21-2006, 10:26 AM
Black Man

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Originally Posted by Dirk Daring

How can a man have the right direction for another man? Thats like saying I know you better than you. Be humble.

By knowing the right direction. How can a person bring somebody into the knowledge of who they are if they themselves don't know? Marcus Garvey, rise up you mighty people! He knew something the people didn't know. The so-called american negro is the original man, elijah muhammad. He knew something about the people that the people didn't know.
11-21-2006, 10:27 AM
Black Man

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Originally Posted by Kephrem

Let's just say the person who did the etymological research there was a "whiteman" (which of course you would have to PROVE if you were to make this point) -- but before you do that, where is YOUR source that I've advocated against any, or all research, that happened to be done by a whiteman??

SHOW AND PROVE.

My source doesn't come from any books or any white person, it comes from those who actually lived it. I go directly to the source not wikipedia. That's how I know "hebrew" isn't the original language among other things.
11-21-2006, 11:48 AM
Imperial1

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Originally Posted by Black Man

So you have a conflict with me? I told you how to solve that problem. You want to go through lessons/math and all that, no problem. I don't do that over the internet though.

Check your pm and get over yourself. BTW, RIF. If I had that much conflict with you, I'd take it up by clicking the red "x" in the top right-hand corner of the moniter. Maybe you should consider doing that sometime. *insert eyeroll*

Imperial1
11-22-2006, 05:12 PM
Kephrem

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Originally Posted by Black Man

My source doesn't come from any books

Thank you for taking the little credibility you may have had off the table. Perhaps you are just a believer then?

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or any white person, it comes from those who actually lived it.

You're losing everybody here. Since the present subject being discussed is the origins of the word Allah-- Tell us exactly how any person has "lived" to witness it's inception and evolution from thousands of years ago.

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I go directly to the source not wikipedia.

See above. And take note that I have also cited a ETYMOLOGICAL (you do know what that means, right??) source.

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That's how I know "hebrew" isn't the original language among other things.

And how is this possible again? Because you know those who have "lived it", correct?!
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