damn i really respect all this knowledge being thrown around here. good looks on all this interesting stuff
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damn i really respect all this knowledge being thrown around here. good looks on all this interesting stuff
wu spitten that knowledge
you know wussup yall
PEACE 4.4.4. TRUMPETS
What r u sayin. I dont understand. Specify.Quote:
I'm curious why you beleive all of that
BTW, I don't deal in belief, cuz I dont take nothing on face value.
allot of wu is very deep and very insightful for real they help me wit shit listen to
Ras Kass feat The RZA-The End, or GZA's LP Beneath The Surface and look at the signifcance behind that title right there on some deep shit tryin 2 tell u too look deeper than the eye can see even RZA's Sunshower or even Wu Tang-America
Alright here's my answer to my own question.Quote:
Originally Posted by ramel
These chameleons are not deceptive to the eye for spying or decieving purposes.
They're just people who come from a nice,happy background who have a admiration for people of struggle.
The way they play and talk and joke.
Also thier music like soul or rap and R&B is very fansinating to these chameleons.
But It's people of struggle that can give off the impression that a person of a easy going background can't hang or isn't accepted in the struggle.
To get close enough to the people they disguise themselves as........people of struggle.
You know as them fronters or wanna bee thugs,but they're know such thing.
Inside of each of them awaits little angels who have been given a deep love and admiration for people of struggle by god.
So much that they actually will commit crimes,smoke weed,drink or even fight to keep themselves in the circle of that crowd.
"Switching like clark kent when the drama commence"
Chameleons are not stress ridden,heartless,cowardly people.
They're not bad people either.
They look for the right moment engraved in the senses to reveal their super-hero powers.NO BULLSHIT WE HAVE THEM.
We're good people.
We're very smart but can play stupid not to offend are company.
And to be rejected by our people of struggle is another day behind the chameleon suit.
In time w'ell begin to reveal our goods layer by layer.
PEACE
Yep.. Truth.Quote:
The mercury and other known neurotoxins used to preserve them are extremely dangerous poisons, and have lead to a serious increase in autism. There are also a host of other chemicals within these vaccines that do more damage than they serve to help. Google up some of the recent evidence if you're at all not convinced. You'd be quite suprised what they don't report on TV. The sodium flouride in your water and in your toothpaste has never been proven to prevent cavities, in fact it is yet another known neurotoxin and is commonly used in rat poison. The flouride in your water is toxic waste from alluminium plants around the country. With all of this true, it certainly makes it hard for one to trust mainstream science who pushes this shit on us. Maybe thats what ODB is saying about trusting his doctor to deliver his babies. Why is it so important for them to destroy our minds with neurotoxins? Anyone else notice how much STUPIDER society is becoming around you? Hmm...
Search on here for info, lots of interesting articles on that and alot of other stuff.. It's also a good health site, to educate and to give you knowledge on self healing.. Fuck Chemical drugs!
I never realised how deep Wu were, until buying the Wu-tang manual the other day(Only upto like page 73)and reading this post.. I understand the lyrics alot more now. :)
Keep it coming.
Lord you're the man. I wish I could meet people who had respect for others, respect for self, and respect for knowledge like you and your group do. I agree white man is natrually the devil. I've never felt terribly in touch with my "white" self. Sometimes your personality shows more through your soul than your genetics. The black man is definately more peaceful, and the white people of america would be able to see that if africa wasn't a wasteland, and the other places housing people of darker color. Sadly in my opinion a lot of white people have had to effectively "tamed" through fear and cowardice. The African societies however, natrually reflect and respect nature as one with man, instead of seperating it as forign. They also seem to hold more moral values and open honesty. If we accept that the Divine light like ODB talks about (and shit, every religion) is simply sunlight, you could even consider it being shown genetically through the skin of the dark people by absorbing the light and turning their skin dark. The fair skinned people like me naturally reject the light by reflecting it. But this is just another idiom, because as you said before, the symbolism of this suggests tendancies, not applicable stereotypical FACTS. Judging on skin color is not appropriate, irregardless of the implications it may symbolically hold.
To ramel, I kind of feel like an idiot for what I had said. I misread the quotes and began to make assumptions. I agree entirely with your description of the "chameleons". Nothing more to say.
good topic everyone. i hope someone else can figure out some new shit for us to look at. this is a very interesting subject thats applicable to all people.
Whats good? Its cool to see that ODB was mentioned on this thread i was blessed to meet the God back in the day & he doesn't get remembered for the right reasons. People laughed at him when he said wu-tang's for the children but the wu's dropped many jewels and lead a lot of people to find knowledge of self.
Gza breaks alot down in basic instructions before leaving earth: do the math to the title (bible)
P.E.A.C.E.
thats word ya'll are break'in it down line for line so i'll throw one in
"Whatup Dirt! 9 diagram phoenix on your sweatshirt" -Shallah Rae-
the WU symbol itself resembles a phoenix symbol in alot of ways, a 9 diagram phoenix sounds alot like the 9 members' WU symbol so is Rae say'n that ODB had on a WU sweatshirt?
lol i just noticed i only got 1 post now, i used to have 5,000 up on this mug
Come on man,why would they have secret messages in their songs?
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Cuz it's not meant for everyone to get. It's meant for the seekers of Knowledge & Wisom. Eventually, those people (like us) will get it. Listen to the closing of Wu-Tang Forever. On it, Raekown clearly points out that "this is for certain people, certain supporters, certain fans", ect. Masta Killa also says a line (on "For Heavens Sake", Wu-Tang Forever, Disc 1) where he says "Observe this magnetic Attraction...", many other references of this term have been made on other songs. When the Gods say Magnetic Attraction they are referin to the knowlede they speak. The seekers of knowledge will get attracted to it regardless. RZA put it best on the song from Digital Bullet ("Show U Love") when he said "the words of wisdom is like a magnet to the ear". First u gotta do the KNOWLEDGE (meaning look, listen, & observe), then when u have applied that, it will show in your WISDOM (your wise words, ways & actions), resulting in a full UNDERSTANDING gained. And Understanding is to see things clearly for what they are and not what they appear to be. The only way u can trully see everything for what it is and not what it appears to be is thru the all-seeing-eye or your "third eye", which is THE MIND.
Keep teaching, ya'll
PEACE.
a good example of this LordReveal is on masta killa's album. the last track with the bruce lee sample, he says something like..."Instead of wasting time to try and grab them back, the dominant magnetic will always attract"
now figure out the riddle
and if you don't know...the wu is draped in esoteric terms and hidden symbolism then you are missing 99% of what there saying and cannot be a true fan.
keep your thoughts on your lessons, what the bloodclot
method man
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Originally Posted by Wu-tang Fan
you have no clue
Exactly. I forgot about that song. Thank you for adding on.Quote:
a good example of this LordReveal is on masta killa's album. the last track with the bruce lee sample, he says something like..."Instead of wasting time to try and grab them back, the dominant magnetic will always attract"
PEACE.
Why would some people strait outta the ghetto have secret messages hidden in their songs anyway?And Raekwon is just a stupid cunt who says U-God is a corny-arse and R.Z.A. the same.But my main point is why would regular hood homies have hidden messages in their songs about wisdom!?Quote:
Originally Posted by LordReveal
well they do...they're not regular hood homies neither...they're some of the most famous people to come outta staten isle in the hip-hop scene ever...that's not REGULAR...they got to this point for a fuckin reason...don't be so ignorant...and don't play games neither, i know you know all this...quit breakin' balls...
Yo,the thing is I hear people talking about it but it's never yet clarrified.But then surely 50-cent isn't regular lil-jon isn't regular what makes these rappers special apart from their good music?
you are not helping this thread at all with ignorant comments. you're on of the 85% we speak of.Quote:
Originally Posted by Wu-tang Fan
u gotta understand that not everyone is on the same wave length tho. Im not tryin to disrespect u but your'e 15 right? Certain people grow outta shit & others don't. Alot of these rap niggaz aint men and u could see it b/c of the frame of mind theyr'e on. I study Etimology (which is the study of the root or origin of a word, traced to the beginning). I have an Etimology dictionary. The word man is traced to the word MIND. That is the origin of the word man. There is definitely NO DOUBT (there shouldn't be) that what ultimately makes a man is his mind. A God once told me "I could know a 13 year old MAN, and know a 30 year old KID". What he was tring to tell me was that what makes a man is his mindstate and not his physical age. (PEACE to the God Infinite Mind Allah for droppin that jewel on me). (BTW, a good book to read is "As A Man Thinketh" by James Allen). There are certain people that go thru trials & tribulations and learn from it the first time. Then you have people who go thru shit again, again & again and gain nothing from it because they didn't see the blessing in disguise. Alot of these rap niggaz are like that. I dont think Wu are just some "hood homies" (lol) as u put it. Im not saying this cuz I'm a 5 Percenter either. To put it nicely Wu-Tang and 50 Cent don't belong in the same sentance nor category.
But I though that Ghost-Face Killah came out with a lot of unrelated(semmingly) stuff because he couldn't find words to say exactly what he ment.What are they if they ain't normal rappers?I know they came out with a revolotionery style but I don't see what's so deep about them.All the stuff that your saying semmes really complicated though.And why do they mention "Allah" alot,I though Allah was the muslim god!?
^aw i never even knew he was 15, i never woulda replied...he's just ignorant...that's all
don't call raekwon a dumb cunt...that's not very civilized...
lord reveal is tellin the truth youngen...you're a 15 year old kid...
Yo, Wu-Tang Fan, read this whole thread from the beginning. Read everything I and others posted then ask yaself if u understand at least a little of what was said on this thread. I dont think u read from the begining. Then, if u dont understand, maybe it was meant for u not to understand.
PEACE
BTW, why is your name Wu-Tang Fan? just curious.
Oh shit, I just realized I've been spending alot of time on this thread. Its consuming all my time, gotta lot of shit to take care of. Expectin a seed on the way in 6 months. It's been good. I love building my thoughts with ya. This is the best thread I've been on since I signed up, it's an alternative to the regular "what Wu-Tang needs to do" or "36 Chambers Vs. Forever" or "This album gonna be shit" threads. Take care, ya'll.
Love, Peace & Happiness
Ya could hit me up at [email protected] or at www.Myspace.com/lordreveal.
Oh yeah,well let me drop some knowledge what Inskectah Dirk has to say:what he means is he changes into a savage gun-wielding fiend when they bring out the bulls(incredibaly rare beef).And for those of you who were 3 years old when it came out the reason he mentioned Clark-Kent is that when the Wu were really banging there was a T.V. series of superman on the television,and clark's hidden identity was a average reporter called Clark-Kent who used to go in the toilet or something and change into his superman constume when someone was in danger.And get this,the superman series ended after forever came out signaling the end of the "super" era of Wu-Tang!So I can tell you this song was made in an era from 93-(when the Superman series started)-97(when the superman series ended).Quote:
Originally Posted by ramel
Congratulations on ya seed. :thumbup:Quote:
Originally Posted by LordReveal
God bless him or her.:hooray:
PS Which album's better "36 chambers or wu-tang Forever":D
Yuss yuss congrats on the coming seed LordReveal.:cheerlie:
Really enjoyed reading all the knowledge y'all been droppin :clap: , keep it comin.
p.e.a.c.e
you smoke crack, don't you?Quote:
Originally Posted by Wu-tang Fan
almost forgot...congrats Lordreveal...
damn who put that telephone smilie in my post.......raaaaaaaaaawwwwww
it may be a bit late to reply to this post but i cant leave it without an answer.:)Quote:
Originally Posted by Wu-tang Fan
in my opinion it doesnt matter is RZA has put these "hidden messages" into his songs on purpose or not. let me show you what i mean woth an example.
in "2 cups of blood" RZA says "arm ot the leg, leg, arm to the head". as someone metiond before if you read the thickked letters the word "Allah" comes out. 2 arms, 2 legs and a head means "man" of course. for me thos line means that avarage people are the god. we have the power to create chaos or peace just like a "real" god. also if people are god earth must be heaven and hell too. how? well if you and other people are a good and respect each other you will get to heaven. not to the heaven eith angels and st. peter at the gates but tothe heaven here on the earth. is people lied in peace the world we live in would be an almost perfect place, the "heaven". of course if you hate others and they hate each other as well the world will be hell. people will suffer from wars and crime.
what i mean is RZA may dont give a damn about this stuff but it doesnt matter. it doesnt matter because what matters is the people hear these lines by the Wu members and start thinking about the world, each other and the future. RZA dont have to actually say this shit in his songs.
is for example 50 cent had any lyrics that can make anyone think about these thing id say hes a great rapper, a great musucian but since only bullshit comes out of his mouth i cant appreciate him music.
well i hope its understandeble. sorry for my bad english but as you can see in my info im not american nor english and its 6 AM here in Hungary and im too tired to read this post again to find the mistakes.
The Chase - RZA
Burst better run better run for your life!
Burst break run jet flee boogey move be audi (yo)
Slide duck dip bounce be ghost escape blazini poof
The Genie disappear cast out like they ain't seen me (yo) ...
(Yo) Burst!
Put the gear in the ignition first it spark my transmission
I'm gear shiftin fast lane switchin tryin to ditch em
Escape I got the briefcase full of papers
Plus the microtape of all the secret society snakes
Recordings, plan how they want to destroy the black man
and take every square inch of land and kill the Wu Clan
What the fuck? My four hundred horsepower truck
High speed with the Ironman CD turned all the way up
Shots fired in back of me, they practically hit my tire
Though I smell smoke, I hope my engine ain't on fire
Pulled off the road, hope this damn truck won't explode
Felt like The Saint from the last James Bond episode
Drivin sixty miles per hour through weed trees and dead flowers
Bust the overdrive, couldn't control the power
Pushin through bushes, mud, bugs
Covered the front and back windshield like carwash suds
I couldn't sleep, I knew these niggaz was gainin on me
I tried to bust a 360, I crashed into a tree
It felt like a bulldozer, knocked my ass over
I fell out the Rover, grabbed the briefcase ran over
to a log cabin, had a sign posted DO NOT ENTER
I bust through the door my body got cut up with splinters
I ain't give a FUCK, tryin to find somewhere to duck
Ahh, ahh, uhhhhh, ahh
and catch my breath, count how many shots I had left
My clip was full, the first nigga walk through I'm gonna pull
It was Ivan Korlof, he came through with a sawed off
Bust the cannon shot and tore the rest of the fuckin door off
Burst, break, run, jet, flee, boogey, move, be audi
Slide, duck, dip, bounce, be ghost, escape, blazini, poof
The Genie, disappear, cast out like they ain't seen me
Killer Bee, fast lamborghini
(repeat 2X)
Junk turned fragments scattered in all direction
One grazed me, on my kneecap but didn't faze me
?Count Latree? jumped up, I fired back
My four-four snub slug, dug a hole in his head
like Dig Dug, partner crashes in
with the infrared precision shots, just missin
Night vision goggles, shit had me boggled
Forty-Four mag, was too much to swallow
Held the briefcase in front of my face, jumped through the window
Daring, got up and went like Dr. Kimball
I burst, broke, ran, jetted, fleed, boogied, moved, was audi
Slid, ducked, dipped, bounced, ghost, escaped, blazini, poof
The Genie, disappear, niggaz out like they ain't seen me
Killer Bee move with the speed of lamborghini
Bobby Steels on the track, word up
Bout to escape with the tape
Word up
more and more of this hidden story is coming to me... it is my belief that the five rings of the olympics representing the same thing you were talking about. the two two and the ONE.
have a look at the 2006 torino olympics sign. you are either a coincidence or conspiricy theororist, and either way, you wont know, so i say it's better to try to understand whats going on than constantly pass it off as nothing:
http://www.torino2006.org/images/logo_header_h_log.jpg
every story of man refers to the ONE, who we call the messiah, and the most popular tell it best. it is our story. it is deep within, almost as if within our genetics. star wars, matrix, lord of the rings, harry potter, and so many more from the old days, where do we stop and realize this is not just a story? where we recognize this must have happened long ago and DEEPLY affected us forever? these stories are popular because they connect best with the telling of this story. the story being told parallels that of the christ figure every time.
so anyways, back to the symbol the star like things up there form circles... there are 7 chakras that ascend to heaven symbolized by the seven stars to heaven. there are five across twice, perhaps representing the five on each side? the five fingers, five toes on each side? its strange that we all grow like this, symmetrical, thats a lot of what the divinci drawing shows...
http://pantransit.reptiles.org/image...-vinci-man.jpg
look at the perfect 360 degree circle, same shit RZA talks about in his book.
but do you see the square as well? we are beyond perfect. we are infinitely balanced, and its a bit scary. see the five notches down below on that line? five more? look back at that olympics symbol... the geometry involved in our own anatomy is beyond genetic evolution, it is mathmatically perfect (though individually we are not without distortions), and this is why so many people believe in creationism (though most haven't done their research on why). this goes farther too. one day they will find out knowledge we used to know long ago. science and religion pursue the same thing, an objective explination of reality based upon the impressions of the five senses. we have divided those instutions and used them to incite insanity and artificiality upon our people. they study exactly the same thing. these are the same conclusions reached by philosophers in ancient greece, china, and all over the world back in around 600 bc. there is natural order. and to quote albert einstien
"i do not believe god plays dice"
recognizing that there is no random, you accept there is meaning in all moments, accepting random, you see no meaning in any moment. its one or the other, and you know it. what i suggest is that time moves in cycles (as suggested by history), and consciousness is connected (as suggested by the stock market). there is god whether you believe in the concept or not. god is not a seperated secular thing, god is you, god is me, and god is everything. the infinity beyond explination. by living you accept death. death is natural and is nothing to be afraid of. we know there is more after death, but we don't have to leave hell here, and heaven after as our religions tell us. thats what belfalo was saying. so if we accept time moves in cycles, than we must believe in re-incarnation, though there seems to be quite a bit of forgetting going on during the re-birth of a soul. it is hard to accept, and perhaps a little too radical for all of you, but we are only tooling with logic, which if anything, is what god would use to design the universe. we see the cycles of the sun around the earth, which is what the christ story is based on. the zodiac has 12 signs, and the bible has 12 apostles (which if you remember the last supper)
http://www.initaly.com/regions/artists/lsup.jpg
was painted with four groups of three. the twelve apostles referring to the months. those four groups suggests the four seasons. the zodiac is divided in this way:
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/jesus_seasons.jpg
http://www.naturealmanac.com/almanac...ns_wheel_h.gif
another though is that if you accept christ as the thirteenth man in the picture, this would relate to the 13 lunar cycles a year. anyways, if you look at the circle in the middle of the zodiac you will understand why christ is painted in the middle, as the sun, in the same sense as the zodiac. the middle represents the sun.
http://www.jordanmaxwell.com/images/solstice.jpg
and here is our holy cross. i'm going to steal a bit from a friend:
The Sun, since the first day of summer, has each day been moving southward, and stops when it reaches its lowest point in the Northern Hemispheric sky (December 22nd - our winter solstice).
At this lowest point, the Sun stops its journey southward.
For three days, December 22nd, 23rd , and 24th, the Sun rises on the exact same latitudinal (declination) degree.
This is the only time in the year that the Sun actually stops its movement Northward or Southward in our sky. On the morning of December 25th the Sun moves one degree northward beginning its annual journey back to us in the Northern Hemisphere, ultimately bringing our spring. Anything steadily moving all year long that suddenly stops moving for three days was considered to have died. Therefore, God's Sun who was dead for three days, moves one-degree Northward on December 25th beginning its annual journey back to the Northern Hemisphere. The Sun is symbolically
....BORN AGAIN.
And to this day, His worshippers still celebrate His BIRTHDAY!.... Merry Christmas.
so here's what i believe:
you can't sit back and just say there's nothing more to the universe. you can't sit around and pretend like you understand everything, and then pretend like we can't ever know actually know any of it. ever hear of the book 1984 by george orwell? they call that doublethink, two thoughts that cancel eachother out and remove the concept from conciousness, and yet so many people believe it. quite sad. we dismiss our own desire for knowledge and create your surroudings to support this dissillusionment. as if there's nothing more going on you can't see, as if there is no deep conflict with the good and evil of man... and upwards. there's so much we don't understand, to simply assume that in our existance we are just some unfathomable random plop of crap in some shithole planet in a place as finite as a computer program. its not, and you can tell, because you experience love, life, hate, passion, and all feelings. your feelings are your only true connection to god, your perception is not so much as seeing as accepting light into corneas and processing it symbolicly into chairs, desks, flowers, and so on. this is why a computer will never truely understand reality, it is finite and everythingness is forever beyond it. conciousness can not exist without that divine connection. as we continue to move into a more systematically designed artifical society, we feel worse and worse and force our own deaths upon ourselves. i think we can reverse this shit. its coming soon, you'll see. meanwhile we accept corruption by a class system that allows children to be born into inequality, as if a fresh life deserves any less than any other. perhaps you work for what you get, but you NEVER deny a new soul the sameness as another. they have done nothing to deserve any less than another. if we look at the children born into all these rich families (cough cough george w bush) that play gi joe with our sons and daughters overseas, that collect billions for themselves... they are born into corruption, and take upon the corruption. they have been programmed to accept that no no man is as worthy as they, when in fact no man is more worthy than any other. one day we will recognize the concept of foreign is only a tool used by those who divid and conquer. and thats all i've got for you today.
im not asking you to believe anything, just to question what you "know", that has been told to you for another. the journey for knowledge lies within only yourself.
i fucked up a lot of my spelling and grammar. oh well you all will understand it anyways.
damn, son.... mad deep, mad deep
I'll never think the same way again.
Oh shit, this thread is still goin on? Good to see this. Yo Ryan, that was a very good and interesting point (I agree with 95% of what was said.) You know what song ya'll should check out tho? "Nature Of The Threat" by Ras Kass. For those of ya who never heard of this song, I highly recommend it. Download the shit. I'll be poppin up here once in a while, but I gotta leave now. Keep it up guys.
PEACE
you can also check some stuff by Dr. Malachi York... he teaches things of this nature.
thank you very much LordReveal for letting me know about that rass Kass song...he basically breaks it down pretty good. this has got to be my favorite thread...we gotta keep adding on.Quote:
Originally Posted by LordReveal
Yo ryan-master talking about all that stuff I can't see what it have to do with the Wu.And it actually slowed my computer down as well because it was so big!