No I'm not arab but can you please ask the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic Tyson
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No I'm not arab but can you please ask the question.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic Tyson
its off topic but i was just wonderin who spoke arabic on here cuz i have to take a language for college and i was thinkin about takin arabic. i was wonderin if it was real hard or if its not that badQuote:
Originally Posted by Cee Oh Vee
I recommend taking arabic. It is really easy.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mic Tyson
I always thought it would be impossible to learn but it's all good, I can't understand or speak it yet I can just read at the moment.
I'm moving on to grammar real soon though
peace
so ummm, why couldnt Mohammed have a personal conversation with Allah like those before him did?
a nigga like me can read and write arabic but i cant speak it anymore since i moved to the states
and no its not and i dint think so
...those before him? What? Like Mary and Joseph? Mary was visited by Gabriel to say that she had been knocked up by the big guy. God couldn't even tell the mother of his child that he was the father.
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But im talking about those who had the biggest impact...IE Moses and Jesus...Mohamed was considered to have a huge impact especially by his influence and teachings/actions...why wasnt he blessed by the voice of God?
...maybe God wasn't in the neighborhood at the time. So he got in contact with his boy Gabriel to get a message to Muhammad.
JESUS said i am the first and the last.... this muhummad getting a message from gabriel is rubbish....JESUS said "nobody comes to the father but through me"...in saying this JESUS was declaring that his message was the only way to GOD... now if JESUS said this... why then would GOD send another message one that contradicts everything that JESUS said after.Quote:
Originally Posted by Face of the Golden Falcon
JESUS warned us about false prophets he said many will come after me claiming to speak for me... they will look like sheep on the outside but on the inside they are like wild wolves... JESUS said you will no a false prophet by what they do ( and we all know what muhummad did ...ordering beheadings because people (jews) didnt believe him... giving so called religious proclamations just so he could have sex with women and waging war robbing and stealing) JESUS said fruit trees dont bear thorns and thorn trees dont bear fruit... and muhummad bore nothing but thorns....muhummad is a fake a phony....he recieved his message from a demon or the devil himslef....STAY AWAY FROM ISLAM !
PRAISE BE TO GOD !
peace
this is a joke.. right???Quote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
Stay away from Islam? Are you threatening me? Warning me? Lol...Quote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
I have no intentions of joining any organised religion. After my first 20 years being a christian it's just not gonna happen. Limiting your self to a particular set of teachings, traditions etc. is putting a wall around your Self (your true Self is God, it cannot be limited. I and the Father are One!)
I believe in Devils and Demons as much as I believe in Peter Pan and Cinderella, which is to say not at all.
If you choose to stay away from the teachings of muhammed because of contradiction, what keeps you following the teachings of Paul the deceiver?
Jesus said a lot of things. Some of which contradict himself. Some of which you probably will never subject yourself to because it is not in the Bible (in fact kept out of the bible under the guise of "God's Will" but really as a means to control the people), and most of which is in the Bible you will never know the complete message of because it has been altered, mistranslated and straight up removed.
Someone else said in another thread that the fact is Jesus' existence cannot even be proven. This is true. The literal importance of Jesus existence is nil. Heaven is not a place for people who take Jesus as their saviour. Hell is not a place. We exist right here, right now. If you take the fundamentals of Jesus' teachings and apply them to your life, then there is no beef. Why would you bother with the dogma that has been added onto Jesus' teachings when you observe the fruit that is has produced?
The only religion is Universal Law.
It is living righteousness in accordance with the great Balance of Life.
God doesn't want lip service. God don't care about a heap of people in a church singing their lungs off then going home and acting like swine.
The greatest was to praise God is to live as God intended us to. This has nothing to do with an afterlife like Christianity would have us believe.
PRAISE BE TO THE ALL!
SHEM HETEP
how did u feel when your priest first touched you down there?Quote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
im sorry to hear you dont believe in heaven or hell for that matter...im also sorry to hear you have abandoned your christian faith (I hope you will come back to it).... but this life is tempory...and i hope there is more to this life than what goes on now...thank GOD that there is a heaven and hell where the injustic and the goodness of man will be accounted for... this way things will be made right...beacuse as things currently stand in this world ... they are very wrong..Quote:
Originally Posted by Face of the Golden Falcon
JESUS`s existance can be proven we have the testamony of the twelve disciples, the gosples, john the baptist and if you dont believe that just read the historian josephus`s writtings, he attests that there was a man named JESUS CHRIST so all these people cant be lying or delusional... i mean josephus was an historian what beifit would it be to him to say that JESUS existed.... but he did.
you said that JESUS said alot of things that contridicted himself show me one thing that he said that is contridicting what he said...JESUS taught truth salvation and gave hope to mankind that this world is not the be all and end all of it.... but if you dont believe then thats up to you but that is called having faith.... you say that things where removed and added nothing was added and what happened with the bible was that it was organised... but the fundamentals are still there the goodness of the message is present ...it hasnt been excluded...it was just organised.
oh you said that paul was a deciever how and who did he decieve...paul spread the message of christ at the expense of his own life...paul was the best example of the love of GOD and that JESUS existed ...this man paul was one of the most zelous persecutor of christians and he all of a sudden was converted ( read road to damascus) and was willing to give his life to spread the message of christ so he must have had a pretty great religious exeperiance to make someone go from cheif christian hater to giving his life for christ..
you talk about universal law but what is that to you ... muhummads jihad and beheadings...I hope not.... no its the laws that where given by GOD the FATHER .... through the jews colminating in the teachings of christ... that is universal law...they are the things that bring justice and that keep man civil.....I mean if you dont believe in christ or christianity believe because of the works that where done ... i mean honestly the works that where done by christ speak for themselves (what where the works of christ and the disciples according to world standards good or evil) they where good!...now even if you dont believe in christianity you should believe in that... now take that and apply that to muhummads teachings/.. and the way he conducted himself and what he taught...anyone in there right mind can see they were evil ...even if you do believe in religion you can see that what muhummad taught and practiced was wrong even by todays standards where the world is a messed up place... by the way... i cant think of any other systems of law that we have that dont base there foundations from the bible...all law today comes from the bible foundations...unless you from a muslim country
anyway you must have faith without faith you will never believe..... in either heaven or hell or GOD for that matter....
have faith
peace
P.E.A.C.E and Blessings...
No the Universal Law I am talking of is not Islamic dogma just as it isn't christian or jewish dogma.
I am not Moslem. Like I said I don't adhere to any one religion. I will come to the defence of those unjustly attacked, like Islam is in this thread.
I will adress the bulk of your post later.
Have to go for now
SHEM HETEP
for real i actually think your serious in your claim that Mohammeds teachings are actually evil.
you actually think Muslims walk around with axes and swords cutting ppls heads off.
i think you do.
this is pretty disturbing.
yeah but what other laws are there besides those that come from the bible... all law today are based on the bible commandments ?????Quote:
Originally Posted by Face of the Golden Falcon
muhummad did.....and anyway just look at al qeada and that dude in iraq beheading people .... these ideas all come from muhummads teachings and examples.Quote:
Originally Posted by HAN
peace
but you worship cesare borgia. you really shouldnt diss other religions like that, especially when the one you follow has caused the most fighting, death, racism, and other shit in this world, and is fuckin fake in the first placeQuote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
I don't think you're very familiar with the teaching of Islam at all. How bout I post verses from the Quaran and you tell me how the teaching is evil so we can get a clearer understanding?Quote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
Please remember that a house divided against itself can not stand as we go through these verses.
well damn you jus caught us out.Quote:
Originally Posted by prof zooruka
today i chopped the heads of 10 infidels, so it was a pretty shitty day. very tired after all of it, i couldnt even beat a random woman on the street. i kno i let Mohammed down.
you fuckin infidel, I'm calling up my suicide bombers right now, teach you to let a woman pass you and not beat her ass into a pulpQuote:
Originally Posted by HAN
this is what you dont seem to getQuote:
Originally Posted by Visions Unseen
ofcourse there are good verses in the koran...theres many. But there is also some barbaric ones that just contradict the good ones
........and for the child raping in the Old Testament?Quote:
Originally Posted by sarr
old testament is shared with muslism, jews and christians...we all take the fall for that one..and like i said, the new testament is the one Christians really go by since it was written after Christs teachingsQuote:
Originally Posted by Visions Unseen
and when you said previously that Jesis contradicted himself..show me where.
did I say that? you might be getting me confused there. Your logic you where using in another thread contradicted itself. When I pointed it out you never responded.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarr
the only thing i believe that can be 100% without contradiction is God. Jesis had no contradictions (recorded)...Quote:
Originally Posted by Visions Unseen
Mohammed and his Quran...had many, which is why i dont believe the koran is the word of God.
the entire Quran wasn't directly given to Mohammed by God (or Gabriel) A lot of it is just Mohammed's writings.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarr
The Quaran that was given directly ends with
"And on this Day I have Perfected Your Religion"
and best believe that if Jesus's thoughts where recorded in the same amount of volume that you have with Mohammed's and the Quran then you probably would find some contradictions. (The New Testament doesn't actually have a whole lot of words that come directly from Jesus)
And remember that a house divided against itself can not stand.
ISlam and Xtianity isnt the same house...neighbours maybe, but not the same.Quote:
Originally Posted by Visions Unseen
I dont see how people can trust the words of Mohammed, a man that didnt seem very noble at all.
Way i see it...you follow the teachings of Christ, you will be a good person, regardless of whether he was devine or not, because end of the day, his message was the most perfect, it was truly amazing.
If your born a muslim, cool, stay a muslim...but keep in mind the teachings of Mohammed were not always noble, and not always peaceful. Converting to that faith, means you are taking a big chance..and will probably pay for it. If your born into it...theres not much you can do really...if you convert (to islam), you will probably get killed, or you have been brought up around the faith so hard that leaving it seems impossible (i wuld be the same if i were born muslim probably...ide be a proud one cause thats the kinda person i am)
but its the people that actually leave Christ and follow mohamed i feel bad for
WWPWD?
What
Would
Popa
Wu
Do
?
If ye ask that question before making every decision in your life, ye shall live the way of the righteous.
Popa Wu is the only true profit. His words never contradict themselves, and his is the path to redemption.
Bask in his glory:
Talkin 'bout gats, ain't no bustin clacks, and ain't hustlin
Too many cats that wanna rap, and ain't sayin nuthin
Foolin ya self, how let ya ass do it to ya self
When it comes to cash, we the ones doin it, who else?
Walkin our dogs, ya cats better beat yours
Hot heat reach y'all, before you even get a chance to recharge
You weak paw, me and my street niggas a' eat y'all
We all, guess they ain't no question that we sure
B-song, soon as you throw the fuckin beat on
Dick riders ride, followers follow our lead on (you a fly guy)
I'ma have to air ya guys out
My shit is plat' before it even exit my mouth
S.I.N.Y. nigga, who wan' try?
Treatin a batty boy head, boom bye bye
I.Q. sky high, I flaunt y'all to hardcore
Conquer, why you frontin dunn? You don't want war
Study your lessons, devils.
nope same house in a line of Abrahamic religionsQuote:
Originally Posted by sarr
Old Testament, New Testament, Quran
regardless though, I think you're missing the point
Love God with All Your Heart, Have Compassion for Jews, Christians and Muslims for they are all God's people etc......those are verses out of the Quran and as such can not be the work of the devll (as some here have stated) Because ultimately it leads to the same understanding and is not divided in its message. And I'm not part of any religion I'm just a truth-seeker who recognizes truth when I see it and there's truth both in the Bible and the Quran. Some seem to have a problem with that but I'm not sure why.
no i agree to an extent. We are all Gods people...and no matter christian, jew, budhist, muslim etc...if your a good person, you will goto heaven no matter what. end of the day, i believe this, despite what some may thinkQuote:
Originally Posted by Visions Unseen
the bible says that the devil can pose as an angle of lightQuote:
Originally Posted by Visions Unseen
secondly...muhummad says that jews and christians are all GOD`s people ... yet the koran specifically states dont make friends with christians and jews (but why o why mhummad you just said they are all GOD`s people brothers people of the book why now did GOD the same GOD who made those religions tell you now not to be friends with them lol)
also
muhummad said that muslims must make war on all the world until they submit to allah and "there is no other religion except islam"....( why muhummad you just said they are all people of the book they have recieved the word of GOD...why now do you want to make war on them until they submit to your religion.... if as you say, "they already have the word of GOD"... they shouldnt need to submit to your religion, because they already have it) ......i mean make your mind up!!!!!.....yeah muhummad really likes christians and jews .... and respects there religions...lol...and what makes it even funnier... is that the GOD who gave christians and jews there religion all of a sudden turns around and says to muhummad ( make war on the religions i created..... until they all submit to islam)... I mean really... why would GOD create these religions (christianity & judaism) and then make another religion to destroy them ...seriously is this muhummad guy for real !....lol
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muhummad is full of shit !
JESUS was right when he said you will no a false prophet by what they do!
thats not true JESUS said "I am the way the truth and the life" "nobody come to the father but by me" ! .... so JESUS is declaring the only way to get to heaven is through christianity.Quote:
Originally Posted by sarr
peace
as far as i know all three of those bastardized religions are war driven fuck them all
some times i fell like alucard because im going to war with Christians jew islam and nazis and all those who seek war to bring back a falls GODs
god is all thing and everything he is every were and no were
god is the cheshir cat
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...3%B6dinger.jpg
it was a toss up between schrodinger and the one from america mcgees alice but
sorry about that i tried to be serious.. i did!
Quote:
Originally Posted by Visions Unseen
"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of killing Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah')
Sura (9:29) - "Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
(means fight against jews and christians)
Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
(may allah destroy them...wow muhummad sure does change his tune quick.. i thought they were people of the book who should be respected)
Bukhari (52:177) - Allah's Apostle said, "The Hour will not be established until you fight with the Jews, and the stone behind which a Jew will be hiding will say. "O Muslim! There is a Jew hiding behind me, so kill him."
(yeah real peaceful religion...I was unaware that the same GOD who created judaism would now through his new so called prophet be prophecising this for the jews) lol (but its not funny)
Bukhari (52:220) - Allah's Apostle said... 'I have been made victorious with terror'
(really I though islam was a peaceful religion)
Muslim (1:33) - the Messenger of Allah said: I have been commanded to fight against people till they testify that there is no god but Allah, that Muhammad is the messenger of Allah.
( you know what makes me laugh...muhummad is hell bent on people confessing that he is a messanger of GOD like he needs reassurance...but yeah more proof that islam is evil)
Tabari 7:97 The morning after the murder of Ashraf, the Prophet declared, "Kill any Jew who falls under your power." Ashraf was a poet, killed by Muhammad's men because he insulted Islam. Here, Muhammad widens the scope of his orders to kill. An innocent Jewish businessman was then slain by his Muslim partner, merely for being non-Muslim
(muhummad giving killing orders .....no couldnt be .....haha lol)
i mean no disrespect to the captive in the photo (r.i.p) but this is the reality of islam.
http://www.hyscience.com/photos/death.jpg
lmao i told yall this cat ^ needs to be banned from know the ledge
this is the thing, you don't understand what you're reading. The part that's bold is significant. What this say's is that you should fight against those that don't believe and adhere to the teachings of Universal Truth.....EVEN if they come under a Christian guise. .......Oh that doesn't happen maybe? who on earth could that mean?Quote:
"Fight those who believe not in Allah nor the Last Day, nor hold that forbidden which hath been forbidden by Allah and His Messenger, nor acknowledge the religion of Truth, (even if they are) of the People of the Book, until they pay the Jizya with willing submission, and feel themselves subdued."
I could think of a couple
http://bodypolitik.org/wordpress/wp-..._roberston.jpg
http://graphics.boston.com:80/bonzai...08218_4876.jpg
the problem is not with God's word (Allah in the Quran, they're one and the same) the problem is with your understanding.
This does talk about the Trinity but again you misunderstand the meaning of the verse. This warns against those that would turn Jesus into a golden half, that would seperate the man and prophet from the God that gave him power in the first place. Oh this doesn't happen in religion???Quote:
"Soon shall We cast terror into the hearts of the Unbelievers, for that they joined companions with Allah, for which He had sent no authority". This speaks directly of killing Christians, since they believe in the Trinity (ie. what Muhammad incorrectly believed to be 'joining companions to Allah')
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...m/monstra2.gif
http://www.jesus-is-savior.com/False...m/monstran.jpg
http://cache.daylife.com/imageserve/...Kfgwq/610x.jpg
What does any of these things have anything to do with what's actually in the Bible?? There was a need for the warnings presented but yet many are decieved. They have lost sight of God and the world suffers for it. Again it is not God's word, it is your understanding. What is presented is the truth. God realized the power and the image of Jesus would be exploited and perverted and so Mohammed was a messenger to get the record straight. That pick and choose will leave you with a hardened heart as you read with through the lens of predetermined hate seeking to find the bad in what's good. What's said doesn't apply to everybody because IT DOESN'T APPLY to EVERBODY. The word is clear but your vision is clouded.
Once again you lack understanding. If God wanted to destroy the deception of false idolship by those who either wished to exploit then how is that wrong? The people that worshipped the golden calf roamed the desert for forty years didn't they?Quote:
Sura (9:30) - "And the Jews say: Ezra is the son of Allah; and the Christians say: The Messiah is the son of Allah; these are the words of their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved before; may Allah destroy them; how they are turned away!"
(may allah destroy them...wow muhummad sure does change his tune quick.. i thought they were people of the book who should be respected)
Surah 4 Verse 123-124
Not your desires, nor those of the People of the Book (can prevail): whoever works evil will be requitted accordingly Nor will he find, besides Allah, any protector or helper
If any do deeds of righeoutness, be they Male or Female and have faith, they willl enter Heaven and not the least injustice will be done to them.
.............^there you have it, punishment and reward applies to both Muslims and Christians alike. Your reward is based on your actions and your faith just as it should be.
and if you're not quoting Surahs then you're not quoting the Quran so whatever to the others. I'm not about to start reading Roman Catholic ideology if I'm lookin for a clearer understanding of Jesus. That same logic applies across the board.